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Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM

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Dark Angel wrote:

Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 No chance .



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It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


 maybe you should go and read the book " THE ACT OF WAR " it's  different between win the war and conquer the nation .



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Lao Kid

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Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Only way for Taiwan to beat China is the Chinese them self in the Mainland China up rising against the communist government because of dictator ruling for many decade and one billion people are slave laboring to keep the communist party and their families to have good living and rich and make the rich to become richer with their hard working force. strike and then Taiwan back the people in the mainland up . Dig up the unfair practice and corruption and unfair of human being right . Taiwan must win over China the same way the the German people torn down the Berlin wall and the same way that the Soviet Union Empire collapse. Communist is suppose for every body must be equal and have the same opportunity but the communist is only the name and the truth is the dictatorship system is not communist system. People get well educated every day and they know their right just like what are happening inn the Middle east today. They want all the dictator who have been ruled for 3 to 4 decades with little bit of development and progress to step beside and they want to elect the well educated and intelligent one to be their leader who could solve the country and nation problems.



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Lao Kid wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Only way for Taiwan to beat China is the Chinese them self in the Mainland China up rising against the communist government because of dictator ruling for many decade and one billion people are slave laboring to keep the communist party and their families to have good living and rich and make the rich to become richer with their hard working force. strike and then Taiwan back the people in the mainland up . Dig up the unfair practice and corruption and unfair of human being right . Taiwan must win over China the same way the the German people torn down the Berlin wall and the same way that the Soviet Union Empire collapse. Communist is suppose for every body must be equal and have the same opportunity but the communist is only the name and the truth is the dictatorship system is not communist system. People get well educated every day and they know their right just like what are happening inn the Middle east today. They want all the dictator who have been ruled for 3 to 4 decades with little bit of development and progress to step beside and they want to elect the well educated and intelligent one to be their leader who could solve the country and nation problems.


 If they do that there will be a lot of people will be murdered and die like in tournament square in China in 1985. And the Tibet people and the Muslim people and the terrorist and guerrilla fighter then Taiwan finance and harbouring those people. Then Taiwan ask Vietnam and the Philippines and other nation to boycott the Chinese product because of Spratly island in the south China sea . Then back up with the United States to boycott and economic sanction against China . NATO and the western countries stop trade with China .No buying and selling with China .Then China will be one her knee.



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Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


 Time is changing that was then and this is now. China will not military go to war with the United States and NATO but economical pressure where it is hurt the most in the American pocket. Sorry to say that because it is the truth. American people run the country and the American government is elected by the people ,So the American government is the government by the people and for the people. So the American government will do what the majority American people would to do. Chinese government is different and they are careless about the Chinese people and their well been. The Chinese government spend very little monies on their people . There are no welfare program, no medical , no work comp , no pension and benefit retirement. Chinese government could save billions of dollars . So they will use those billions to modernize their military . Soon China will the number one superpower  . Today China might be number two after the US . Time is on China side now but China is not stupid to go to war against the United states or against the Russia . China will win the war without firing any bullets. China will own every countries in the world financially.



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Speak Out

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Dark Angel wrote:

Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 Quote    '' Does Taiwan has any Chance to win the war over China ? ''  Ha Ha very interesting topic  indeed,  if the war really break out between Repulic of China(ROC) and People's repulic of China(PRC or CCP) I 'd say [Beijing] would lose a War,  I know I know 99.99 percent people out there probably don't agree with me including most of you guys in here.  Here is my analysis:  

 The rhetoric from the PRC about waging war against Taiwan is based on the following assumptions.

- The PRC would win such a war and as a result of winning such a war, the PRC would take over Taiwan.

- The CCP (China Communist Party) would remain in power after the conclusion of such a war. These assumptions bear examination in some detail.

During the next few years China is likely to achieve military parity with Taiwan, What do I mean by this ? by military parity with Taiwan ? I mean that most of the Communist China's war machines still use the technologies from Soviet era. as for Taiwan, almost 100 percent bought from U.S.A. and Europ, news and modern technology. Anyway,   Military parity, however, does not equate to winning a war or, much more important,  mounting a successful invasion of Taiwan. the PRC military has long been known to be outrageously bureaucratic, inefficient, poor in communications and far from skilled in maintaining its equipment.

Even when China achieves military parity with Taiwan, that does not mean it would be able to use its equipment to match tanwanese soldiers on the batllefield.  China would be fighting a war to conquest and invasion. Such a war requires a military to take and hold territory at a distance,using the Air force and navy, and current People's liberation Army(PLA)  has no experience with that kinda warfare.  for China to successfully invade Taiwan, it would need to achieve complete Air and naval superiority over the Taiwan strait and over Taiwan itself, and quickly land a million men on Taiwan for the land battle. if the million men  were land too slowly, they would be killed before they could mass in great enough numbers to be militarily effective. this is how the United States beat imperor army of Japan in WWII with Naval and Air superority.  and China is not anywhere close to achieving  complete air and naval superiority over Taiwan, not is it likely to achieve it at any time in the foreseeable future.  Only a handful of mobile missil launchers on Taiwan could prevent an Air-or sea borne invasion force from setting a foot on Island.  I know they recently upgrade their Aircraft carrier that bought from old Soviet repulic of Ukrain. but is no match for Aircraft killer like F15-16s... therefore a Chinese  invasion of Taiwan is an impossible task, and will remain impossible for the forseeable future. well all of these just my opinion, if China has a war with Taiwan, would America get involve ? Well there's a possibility of that too.    



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Speak Out wrote:
Dark Angel wrote:

Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 Quote    '' Does Taiwan has any Chance to win the war over China ? ''  Ha Ha very interesting topic  indeed,  if the war really break out between Repulic of China(ROC) and People's repulic of China(PRC or CCP) I 'd say [Beijing] would lose a War,  I know I know 99.99 percent people out there probably don't agree with me including most of you guys in here.  Here is my analysis:  

 The rhetoric from the PRC about waging war against Taiwan is based on the following assumptions.

- The PRC would win such a war and as a result of winning such a war, the PRC would take over Taiwan.

- The CCP (China Communist Party) would remain in power after the conclusion of such a war. These assumptions bear examination in some detail.

During the next few years China is likely to achieve military parity with Taiwan, What do I mean by this ? by military parity with Taiwan ? I mean that most of the Communist China's war machines still use the technologies from Soviet era. as for Taiwan, almost 100 percent bought from U.S.A. and Europ, news and modern technology. Anyway,   Military parity, however, does not equate to winning a war or, much more important,  mounting a successful invasion of Taiwan. the PRC military has long been known to be outrageously bureaucratic, inefficient, poor in communications and far from skilled in maintaining its equipment.

Even when China achieves military parity with Taiwan, that does not mean it would be able to use its equipment to match tanwanese soldiers on the batllefield.  China would be fighting a war to conquest and invasion. Such a war requires a military to take and hold territory at a distance,using the Air force and navy, and current People's liberation Army(PLA)  has no experience with that kinda warfare.  for China to successfully invade Taiwan, it would need to achieve complete Air and naval superiority over the Taiwan strait and over Taiwan itself, and quickly land a million men on Taiwan for the land battle. if the million men  were land too slowly, they would be killed before they could mass in great enough numbers to be militarily effective. this is how the United States beat imperor army of Japan in WWII with Naval and Air superority.  and China is not anywhere close to achieving  complete air and naval superiority over Taiwan, not is it likely to achieve it at any time in the foreseeable future.  Only a handful of mobile missil launchers on Taiwan could prevent an Air-or sea borne invasion force from setting a foot on Island.  I know they recently upgrade their Aircraft carrier that bought from old Soviet repulic of Ukrain. but is no match for Aircraft killer like F15-16s... therefore a Chinese  invasion of Taiwan is an impossible task, and will remain impossible for the forseeable future. well all of these just my opinion, if China has a war with Taiwan, would America get involve ? Well there's a possibility of that too.    


I agreed with you bro. s.o.

Communist China couldn't even touch Taiwan.

If they do, the United States and its allies aren't just sitting down

and watching especial the NATO. Million manpower don't mean nothing,

this era is hi-tech war weapons that China is so...so...far behind U.S.A.

There's almost a century that main land China try to take over Taiwan but,

have had never done.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Speak Out wrote:
Dark Angel wrote:

Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 Quote    '' Does Taiwan has any Chance to win the war over China ? ''  Ha Ha very interesting topic  indeed,  if the war really break out between Repulic of China(ROC) and People's repulic of China(PRC or CCP) I 'd say [Beijing] would lose a War,  I know I know 99.99 percent people out there probably don't agree with me including most of you guys in here.  Here is my analysis:  

 The rhetoric from the PRC about waging war against Taiwan is based on the following assumptions.

- The PRC would win such a war and as a result of winning such a war, the PRC would take over Taiwan.

- The CCP (China Communist Party) would remain in power after the conclusion of such a war. These assumptions bear examination in some detail.

During the next few years China is likely to achieve military parity with Taiwan, What do I mean by this ? by military parity with Taiwan ? I mean that most of the Communist China's war machines still use the technologies from Soviet era. as for Taiwan, almost 100 percent bought from U.S.A. and Europ, news and modern technology. Anyway,   Military parity, however, does not equate to winning a war or, much more important,  mounting a successful invasion of Taiwan. the PRC military has long been known to be outrageously bureaucratic, inefficient, poor in communications and far from skilled in maintaining its equipment.

Even when China achieves military parity with Taiwan, that does not mean it would be able to use its equipment to match tanwanese soldiers on the batllefield.  China would be fighting a war to conquest and invasion. Such a war requires a military to take and hold territory at a distance,using the Air force and navy, and current People's liberation Army(PLA)  has no experience with that kinda warfare.  for China to successfully invade Taiwan, it would need to achieve complete Air and naval superiority over the Taiwan strait and over Taiwan itself, and quickly land a million men on Taiwan for the land battle. if the million men  were land too slowly, they would be killed before they could mass in great enough numbers to be militarily effective. this is how the United States beat imperor army of Japan in WWII with Naval and Air superority.  and China is not anywhere close to achieving  complete air and naval superiority over Taiwan, not is it likely to achieve it at any time in the foreseeable future.  Only a handful of mobile missil launchers on Taiwan could prevent an Air-or sea borne invasion force from setting a foot on Island.  I know they recently upgrade their Aircraft carrier that bought from old Soviet repulic of Ukrain. but is no match for Aircraft killer like F15-16s... therefore a Chinese  invasion of Taiwan is an impossible task, and will remain impossible for the forseeable future. well all of these just my opinion, if China has a war with Taiwan, would America get involve ? Well there's a possibility of that too.    


I agreed with you bro. s.o.

Communist China couldn't even touch Taiwan.

If they do, the United States and its allies aren't just sitting down

and watching especial the NATO. Million manpower don't mean nothing,

this era is hi-tech war weapons that China is so...so...far behind U.S.A.

There's almost a century that main land China try to take over Taiwan but,

have had never done.


 China could take Taiwan out in half hour.



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Does speak out understand this word?

plagiarism

3M4EL



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


 Shock and awe in Tiawan in 30 miniutes  by the Communist China then there will be 100 millions of Han Chinese air born all over Taiwan.



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China could not even beat Vietnam in 1979 and 1985 so how would china could beat Taiwan .Taiwan will be the one beat communist China when the majority of Chinese people uprising against the dictator for freedom and democracy. The Chinese people them self will defeat the dictator chinese communist party with the help of Chinese from Taiwan.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Speak Out wrote:
Dark Angel wrote:

Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 Quote    '' Does Taiwan has any Chance to win the war over China ? ''  Ha Ha very interesting topic  indeed,  if the war really break out between Repulic of China(ROC) and People's repulic of China(PRC or CCP) I 'd say [Beijing] would lose a War,  I know I know 99.99 percent people out there probably don't agree with me including most of you guys in here.  Here is my analysis:  

 The rhetoric from the PRC about waging war against Taiwan is based on the following assumptions.

- The PRC would win such a war and as a result of winning such a war, the PRC would take over Taiwan.

- The CCP (China Communist Party) would remain in power after the conclusion of such a war. These assumptions bear examination in some detail.

During the next few years China is likely to achieve military parity with Taiwan, What do I mean by this ? by military parity with Taiwan ? I mean that most of the Communist China's war machines still use the technologies from Soviet era. as for Taiwan, almost 100 percent bought from U.S.A. and Europ, news and modern technology. Anyway,   Military parity, however, does not equate to winning a war or, much more important,  mounting a successful invasion of Taiwan. the PRC military has long been known to be outrageously bureaucratic, inefficient, poor in communications and far from skilled in maintaining its equipment.

Even when China achieves military parity with Taiwan, that does not mean it would be able to use its equipment to match tanwanese soldiers on the batllefield.  China would be fighting a war to conquest and invasion. Such a war requires a military to take and hold territory at a distance,using the Air force and navy, and current People's liberation Army(PLA)  has no experience with that kinda warfare.  for China to successfully invade Taiwan, it would need to achieve complete Air and naval superiority over the Taiwan strait and over Taiwan itself, and quickly land a million men on Taiwan for the land battle. if the million men  were land too slowly, they would be killed before they could mass in great enough numbers to be militarily effective. this is how the United States beat imperor army of Japan in WWII with Naval and Air superority.  and China is not anywhere close to achieving  complete air and naval superiority over Taiwan, not is it likely to achieve it at any time in the foreseeable future.  Only a handful of mobile missil launchers on Taiwan could prevent an Air-or sea borne invasion force from setting a foot on Island.  I know they recently upgrade their Aircraft carrier that bought from old Soviet repulic of Ukrain. but is no match for Aircraft killer like F15-16s... therefore a Chinese  invasion of Taiwan is an impossible task, and will remain impossible for the forseeable future. well all of these just my opinion, if China has a war with Taiwan, would America get involve ? Well there's a possibility of that too.    


I agreed with you bro. s.o.

Communist China couldn't even touch Taiwan.

If they do, the United States and its allies aren't just sitting down

and watching especial the NATO. Million manpower don't mean nothing,

this era is hi-tech war weapons that China is so...so...far behind U.S.A.

There's almost a century that main land China try to take over Taiwan but,

have had never done.


 China could take Taiwan out in half hour.


 How come you don't explain it how the commie chinese will take over taiwan in half hour ?  taiwan is very strong army as south korean. do you think they just stand there and let a commie chinese bom the hell out them ? your assumtion telling you that china is a bigger than taiwan and probably easy the beat them. you wrong. 



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 Oop be careful, someone in here might call you a plagiarism because most of us in here not even born yet back in early 40-50 except brother speakout. 555 sorry brother, just joking ok.... to a person who called brother speakout plagiarism need to get back to reality. in today society, in school,classroom,history, even professional instructures used the sources to teach you.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 if i say America help soviet beat nazi germany , i'm afraid someone might call me plagiarism because i wasn't born back then. and if i say America help chinese beat Japan, maybe someone call me plagirism again 555. just joking with you that's all. ok.



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 if i say America help soviet beat nazi germany , i'm afraid someone might call me plagiarism because i wasn't born back then. and if i say America help chinese beat Japan, maybe someone call me plagirism again 555. just joking with you that's all. ok.


No one is calling you PLAGIARISM I guess, coz you were telling true. I give two thumbs up my friend!



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Does speak out understand this word?

plagiarism

3M4EL


 aha you jerlous brother of speakout because he know more than you do, haha. if otherwise, you would have probably go straight to the issue and give an answer already. I don't know who the hell speakout is ? and I don't know where he live, but I like and enjoyed reading his comments. and of course some of his discussion we might have heard it on TV from those political think tanks but its true. and his comment about china and taiwan, I've heard it many times in political debated on foriegn policy. so for you called him a plagiarist that mean you are calling all of historians plagiarism too. what about those comedians out there were using or copy of others comedian, what would you call that ? plagiarism too. so you need to know that we are largely self-policing. people sharing a common interest are the most likely to spot a case of plagiarism,  even if the copy uses differnt words, or even a different language. Even when an instrutor or editor does suspect plagiarism, the sheer size of the Internet seems to work in the plagiarist's favor. 



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsens  you could sold all american's arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afganistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power fo communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's tecnology and bring it to America. 



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Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power of communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's technology and bring it to America. 


     Wrong Most of the well educated people have the mind of their own and will be easy to believe any thing the the American government tell them. The United States is the free country and freedom of speech and the people are their right to make the research and find out about the truth and have the right to speak out the truth . The government could cover up but the media and normal citizen have the right to find out the truth unlike the the dictatorship system the people don't have the right to make any decision . All the decision are make for them by one group of people or one party regardless the majority of the people like it or not. The system is failed and the people are suffering for many decades , only the  powerful high ranking government officers and their families and their business associate are rich and have a good living. The country is rich because of the stupid system which are the country the least develop and slow progress . Because of the corruption which the country and the nation become indirectly under the control and also be puppet by other nation.



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Lao Kid wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power of communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's technology and bring it to America. 


     Wrong Most of the well educated people have the mind of their own and will be easy to believe any thing the the American government tell them. The United States is the free country and freedom of speech and the people are their right to make the research and find out about the truth and have the right to speak out the truth . The government could cover up but the media and normal citizen have the right to find out the truth unlike the the dictatorship system the people don't have the right to make any decision . All the decision are make for them by one group of people or one party regardless the majority of the people like it or not. The system is failed and the people are suffering for many decades , only the  powerful high ranking government officers and their families and their business associate are rich and have a good living. The country is rich because of the stupid system which are the country the least develop and slow progress . Because of the corruption which the country and the nation become indirectly under the control and also be puppet by other nation.


 bla bla.........bla ... bla.... Freedom my @ss....... deep down the US's government is pro-communism... what they are doing now is ButtFCKing the american "YOU" and you don't event know.... You are like a puppets in their so call NEW WORLD ORDER.



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you mean butt f ucking your mom?



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The truth

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Anonymous wrote:
Lao Kid wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power of communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's technology and bring it to America. 


     Wrong Most of the well educated people have the mind of their own and will be easy to believe any thing the the American government tell them. The United States is the free country and freedom of speech and the people are their right to make the research and find out about the truth and have the right to speak out the truth . The government could cover up but the media and normal citizen have the right to find out the truth unlike the the dictatorship system the people don't have the right to make any decision . All the decision are make for them by one group of people or one party regardless the majority of the people like it or not. The system is failed and the people are suffering for many decades , only the  powerful high ranking government officers and their families and their business associate are rich and have a good living. The country is rich because of the stupid system which are the country the least develop and slow progress . Because of the corruption which the country and the nation become indirectly under the control and also be puppet by other nation.


 bla bla.........bla ... bla.... Freedom my @ss....... deep down the UK's government is pro-communism... what they are doing now is ButtFCKing the american "YOU" and you don't event know.... You are like a puppets in their so call NEW WORLD ORDER.


 Mr. bean, bla, bla since when that deep down the US 's government is pro communism . If that is so why the United states become communist country . Why the Soviet Union collapsed and why the Berlin wall was tron down . Why the north Korean people are starving to death and why the south Korea is so successful ?  Simple the system is corrupted and failed. Libya 42 years country is rich with oil with the income by 100 of billions per year but slow progress because under the dictator ruled , North Korea is poor and the same reason the dictator rule , Cuba many decades with the same reason rule by the dictator and the people are still living in poverty and bad condition of living. That is why the Soviet Empire banned the failed system. China the country is rich only the communist party and the business people and about 1 billion people earn about 3 dollars per day and still living in poverty. The United States is not a perfect country but the people have freedom , democracy and the equal opportunity unlike the dictatorship system only one group of people have power and above the law such Kim Jong il ( north Korea).



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Anonymous wrote:
Lao Kid wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power of communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's technology and bring it to America. 


     Wrong Most of the well educated people have the mind of their own and will be easy to believe any thing the the American government tell them. The United States is the free country and freedom of speech and the people are their right to make the research and find out about the truth and have the right to speak out the truth . The government could cover up but the media and normal citizen have the right to find out the truth unlike the the dictatorship system the people don't have the right to make any decision . All the decision are make for them by one group of people or one party regardless the majority of the people like it or not. The system is failed and the people are suffering for many decades , only the  powerful high ranking government officers and their families and their business associate are rich and have a good living. The country is rich because of the stupid system which are the country the least develop and slow progress . Because of the corruption which the country and the nation become indirectly under the control and also be puppet by other nation.


 bla bla.........bla ... bla.... Freedom my @ss....... deep down the US's government is pro-communism... what they are doing now is ButtFCKing the american "YOU" and you don't event know.... You are like a puppets in their so call NEW WORLD ORDER.


       Really deep down Te US 's government is pro-communism that is excellence then. Every body in the communist country should have the right to vote for their presidents, senators , congress man , government ,prime minister and also very body should have the freedom of speech and press and every body should have the equal opportunity and the most import the right to be human ( human being right). bla, bla, bla freedom my foot North Korea , Cuba , Sirya and Libya.



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Anonymous wrote:
Lao Kid wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It was a nonsense  you could sold all american arms to

Taiwan   there is noway and no chance to win  china.

USA could not even win the war in iraq and afghanistan.


Who Won The World War 1 and 2?

U.S.A. and allies right?

Who occupied China and Korea for 60 Years?

Japan, right?

You need to study more about the WAR.


Who won the World War 1 and 2? ...... I don't know why you have USA up there in your "You need to study more about the WAR" self answering question. That would be so stupid to say something like that, even the US itself know the fact why they enter the World War in the first place and that is to stop Soviet and the power of communism. Now You really need to study more about the WAR.


Who helped Soviet Union defeated Germany?

Who helped China to win the war over Japan after 60 years under occupied of Japan?

Could you answer these two questions before you're calling me stupid!

If you don't know, you really need to study more about the war Mr.


 What can I say, a typical idiot american will believe what ever their government tell them. US had help the Nazi from the start, they get in the World War II to help the Nazi escape and protect the Nazi's technology and bring it to America. 


     Wrong Most of the well educated people have the mind of their own and will be easy to believe any thing the the American government tell them. The United States is the free country and freedom of speech and the people are their right to make the research and find out about the truth and have the right to speak out the truth . The government could cover up but the media and normal citizen have the right to find out the truth unlike the the dictatorship system the people don't have the right to make any decision . All the decision are make for them by one group of people or one party regardless the majority of the people like it or not. The system is failed and the people are suffering for many decades , only the  powerful high ranking government officers and their families and their business associate are rich and have a good living. The country is rich because of the stupid system which are the country the least develop and slow progress . Because of the corruption which the country and the nation become indirectly under the control and also be puppet by other nation.


 bla bla.........bla ... bla.... Freedom my @ss....... deep down the US's government is pro-communism... what they are doing now is ButtFCKing the american "YOU" and you don't event know.... You are like a puppets in their so call NEW WORLD ORDER.


  NEW WORL ODER allow you to vote for your leaders and give you the freedom  and democrcay and equal opprotunity that is not a bad system at all .



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 bla bla.........bla ... bla.... Freedom my @ss....... deep down the US's government is pro-communism... what they are doing now is ButtFCKing the american "YOU" and you don't event know.... You are like a puppets in their so call NEW WORLD ORDER.


I think this guy is still in the cave or deep forest that he didn't see outside the world. bla.....bla...my balls....that you said the U.S. is pro-communism. How long have you been inside the cave? Common out to see what going on outside the world, don't stick yourself inside the cave.



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Does speak out understand this word?

plagiarism

3M4EL


 Yes sure I knew exactly what the word '' Plagiarism mean'' you cheap shot, if you don't have anything to debated me on the issue then just shut your mouth 'you  cheap shot'.  I'm considering myself as an adult and don't like the war of word or insult each other back and forth. that is not my personality. Ok cheap shot, Even if sometime I found my self disagreed with people's ideas or opinions  I still respected their point of view. for you to called me a 'Thief'  really insulted my school of hardknock and insulted my intelligence Ok cheap shot. Sharing knowledge is be expected,  Knowledge is not a personal property of any indivisual. We learn from our environment, and it is shared. if we apply this plagiarism thing, To social sciences then everyone would say its my method of living , this and that plagiarized it. Cheap shot, we live in a common world, and taking knowledge from shared environment. by imposing this you're stopping other people to share the knowledge of other. there should be no intellectual right on the experience and knowledge of a person. by sharing knowledge it increases knowledge. at the end we want to see the good results that is.  the increased knowledge of whomsoever it belongs, help the common people you that Mr cheap shot, if you Mr 'cheap shot' were born or grew up here in the state, you knew that some teachers, instructures of classes had been explicitly instructed to use broken documentation methods in teaching the class how to write reports. you knew that and I knew that back in midle school and through out the high school and colleges. as for my analysis on the Taiwan and China issues, yes I used some of what I heard in political debated on C-Span Channel, Did you know what C-span channel is all about ? Mr cheap shot !!! this is my favorite  political channel they talks about everything from social life, economic  to political issues in Capital hill and through out the world as well... So next time before you called me a thief please debate me on the issue Ok Mr cheap shot!!!

 



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Anonymous wrote:

Does speak out understand this word?

plagiarism

3M4EL


 aha you jerlous brother of speakout because he know more than you do, haha. if otherwise, you would have probably go straight to the issue and give an answer already. I don't know who the hell speakout is ? and I don't know where he live, but I like and enjoyed reading his comments. and of course some of his discussion we might have heard it on TV from those political think tanks but its true. and his comment about china and taiwan, I've heard it many times in political debated on foriegn policy. so for you called him a plagiarist that mean you are calling all of historians plagiarism too. what about those comedians out there were using or copy of others comedian, what would you call that ? plagiarism too. so you need to know that we are largely self-policing. people sharing a common interest are the most likely to spot a case of plagiarism,  even if the copy uses differnt words, or even a different language. Even when an instrutor or editor does suspect plagiarism, the sheer size of the Internet seems to work in the plagiarist's favor. 


 I don't know who the hell you are bro, But thank-you very much for defended me. Wao,  I really think you're the real educator. not a pony know it all like someone in here.555. one again, Thanks bro, I really appreciated. from the heart. 



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Is it possible that the Chinese people in the main land China will support  the Chinese in Taiwan to fight the communist gang who ruled China today and united Taiwan and China to  become  one big democratic country which the majority of the Chinese want any way but the only 40 millions communist part who have the power .Will  they ever give up the power to the Chinese people. So Could Chinese people win the war and become like democratic country like Taiwan.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 18th of August 2011 03:38:25 PM


 Quote    '' Does Taiwan has any Chance to win the war over China ? ''  Ha Ha very interesting topic  indeed,  if the war really break out between Repulic of China(ROC) and People's repulic of China(PRC or CCP) I 'd say [Beijing] would lose a War,  I know I know 99.99 percent people out there probably don't agree with me including most of you guys in here.  Here is my analysis:  

 The rhetoric from the PRC about waging war against Taiwan is based on the following assumptions.

- The PRC would win such a war and as a result of winning such a war, the PRC would take over Taiwan.

- The CCP (China Communist Party) would remain in power after the conclusion of such a war. These assumptions bear examination in some detail.

During the next few years China is likely to achieve military parity with Taiwan, What do I mean by this ? by military parity with Taiwan ? I mean that most of the Communist China's war machines still use the technologies from Soviet era. as for Taiwan, almost 100 percent bought from U.S.A. and Europ, news and modern technology. Anyway,   Military parity, however, does not equate to winning a war or, much more important,  mounting a successful invasion of Taiwan. the PRC military has long been known to be outrageously bureaucratic, inefficient, poor in communications and far from skilled in maintaining its equipment.

Even when China achieves military parity with Taiwan, that does not mean it would be able to use its equipment to match tanwanese soldiers on the batllefield.  China would be fighting a war to conquest and invasion. Such a war requires a military to take and hold territory at a distance,using the Air force and navy, and current People's liberation Army(PLA)  has no experience with that kinda warfare.  for China to successfully invade Taiwan, it would need to achieve complete Air and naval superiority over the Taiwan strait and over Taiwan itself, and quickly land a million men on Taiwan for the land battle. if the million men  were land too slowly, they would be killed before they could mass in great enough numbers to be militarily effective. this is how the United States beat imperor army of Japan in WWII with Naval and Air superority.  and China is not anywhere close to achieving  complete air and naval superiority over Taiwan, not is it likely to achieve it at any time in the foreseeable future.  Only a handful of mobile missil launchers on Taiwan could prevent an Air-or sea borne invasion force from setting a foot on Island.  I know they recently upgrade their Aircraft carrier that bought from old Soviet repulic of Ukrain. but is no match for Aircraft killer like F15-16s... therefore a Chinese  invasion of Taiwan is an impossible task, and will remain impossible for the forseeable future. well all of these just my opinion, if China has a war with Taiwan, would America get involve ? Well there's a possibility of that too.    


I agreed with you bro. s.o.

Communist China couldn't even touch Taiwan.

If they do, the United States and its allies aren't just sitting down

and watching especial the NATO. Million manpower don't mean nothing,

this era is hi-tech war weapons that China is so...so...far behind U.S.A.

There's almost a century that main land China try to take over Taiwan but,

have had never done.


 Yes you're absolutely right brother U.S.A. and its ally will jump in if Mainland China attack Island nation. Maintaining a free and democratic Taiwan is important to US security interests in Asia. if Taiwan fall to China, that will send a message throughout Asia that the United States is only marginally relevant and China is the party to be reckoned with. Asian governments would step back from the democracies that the US has encouraged them to create and would model themselves on the corrupt authoritarian Chinese model... also another problem will occur, Shipping lanes through the South China Sea would no longer be international  waters. Rather, they would be controlled by China definitely...



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This qusetion should be changed to:

Does China has any chance to win the war over Taiwan?

Taiwan has never try to take over the main land, there's only the main land tried so many times to take over Taiwan, there's almost a centuty that they tried to do so but, no sign that the main land to win the war.



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If the war breaks out between the Communist China and Taiwan.  It would start WW3.

Taiwan is not going to fight the Communist China alone.  The United States of America and its allies like Canada,Britian,Australia,Japan,France,Gernam etc.. would back the United and Taiwan.

China in a modern history has never fought a war against other nation, except for little scrimishes, like with Vietnam in 1979, which the Chinese lost many men. And of course helped the Communist Viet and Lao against the American. But with the backing of the Soviet Union.

The Communist China might talk tough, but if China attack Taiwan, China will have its own Vietnam. Not everybody in China support Communism.

Communist China can not win against a very angry United State of American. American only lose in war that the nation does not support. LIke the unpopular war in Vietnam, Irag,and Afghanistan.

 



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Anonymous wrote:

Does speak out understand this word?

plagiarism

3M4EL


 Yes sure I knew exactly what the word '' Plagiarism mean'' you cheap shot, if you don't have anything to debated me on the issue then just shut your mouth 'you  cheap shot'.  I'm considering myself as an adult and don't like the war of word or insult each other back and forth. that is not my personality. Ok cheap shot, Even if sometime I found my self disagreed with people's ideas or opinions  I still respected their point of view. for you to called me a 'Thief'  really insulted my school of hardknock and insulted my intelligence Ok cheap shot. Sharing knowledge is be expected,  Knowledge is not a personal property of any indivisual. We learn from our environment, and it is shared. if we apply this plagiarism thing, To social sciences then everyone would say its my method of living , this and that plagiarized it. Cheap shot, we live in a common world, and taking knowledge from shared environment. by imposing this you're stopping other people to share the knowledge of other. there should be no intellectual right on the experience and knowledge of a person. by sharing knowledge it increases knowledge. at the end we want to see the good results that is.  the increased knowledge of whomsoever it belongs, help the common people you that Mr cheap shot, if you Mr 'cheap shot' were born or grew up here in the state, you knew that some teachers, instructures of classes had been explicitly instructed to use broken documentation methods in teaching the class how to write reports. you knew that and I knew that back in midle school and through out the high school and colleges. as for my analysis on the Taiwan and China issues, yes I used some of what I heard in political debated on C-Span Channel, Did you know what C-span channel is all about ? Mr cheap shot !!! this is my favorite  political channel they talks about everything from social life, economic  to political issues in Capital hill and through out the world as well... So next time before you called me a thief please debate me on the issue Ok Mr cheap shot!!!

 


 Wao Wao very  Well statement man, Who the heck R U Speakout anyway? this is one of the best statement i've read so far about politic in this carry away Website. another one is Darkangle, that guy also love to talk about godd'em politic just like you man. Thumb up...



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Vietnam and Philippines will help Taiwan.



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China could not even beat Vietnam in 1979 and 1985 so how would china could beat Taiwan .Taiwan will be the one beat communist China when the majority of Chinese people uprising against the dictator for freedom and democracy. The Chinese people them self will defeat the dictator chinese communist party with the help of Chinese from Taiwan.


 That is right one billion poor Chinese labors in the mainland will  be uprising against the rich communist party members and their families and relatives like Soviet Empire collapsed and the Berlin wall was torn down and Libya against Muammar Gaddafi and his family . Big mistake if China attack Taiwan . Vietnam and the Philippine love to see China become weak against after been defeated by the Taiwan and her allies. Vietnam will sleep better when China become weak  military and economically and China will be if China attack Taiwan.



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China could not even beat Vietnam in 1979 and 1985 so how would china could beat Taiwan .Taiwan will be the one beat communist China when the majority of Chinese people uprising against the dictator for freedom and democracy. The Chinese people them self will defeat the dictator chinese communist party with the help of Chinese from Taiwan.


 That is right one billion poor Chinese labors in the mainland will  be uprising against the rich communist party members and their families and relatives like Soviet Empire collapsed and the Berlin wall was torn down and Libya against Muammar Gaddafi and his family . Big mistake if China attack Taiwan . Vietnam and the Philippine love to see China become weak against after been defeated by the Taiwan and her allies. Vietnam will sleep better when China become weak  military and economically and China will be if China attack Taiwan.


 1 year old thread re appear again.



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China could not even beat Vietnam in 1979 and 1985 so how would china could beat Taiwan .Taiwan will be the one beat communist China when the majority of Chinese people uprising against the dictator for freedom and democracy. The Chinese people them self will defeat the dictator chinese communist party with the help of Chinese from Taiwan.


 That is right one billion poor Chinese labors in the mainland will  be uprising against the rich communist party members and their families and relatives like Soviet Empire collapsed and the Berlin wall was torn down and Libya against Muammar Gaddafi and his family . Big mistake if China attack Taiwan . Vietnam and the Philippine love to see China become weak against after been defeated by the Taiwan and her allies. Vietnam will sleep better when China become weak  military and economically and China will be if China attack Taiwan.


 1 year old thread re appear again.


 So what ? most of the topics in here were more than a years old anyway. some people enjoy reading it, some people are enjoy debating on the issue. so if you don't like it  just don't wasted your time simple as that ..



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