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When I went through reading this story about the 'Wat Pra Kaew' being claim by perhaps a Thai national who claim that Lao stole and invaded, and just look the Emerald Buddha from Thailand.

This is surely a work of a Thai natioanlist who is trying to confused tourist about the real fact about the Emerald Buddha.

This isn't the only tourist site out there that is being twist by these Thai.no

Please read the tourist information below.

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/thailand/bangkok-wat-phra-kaew-emerald-buddha



-- Edited by Nia on Friday 9th of March 2012 05:18:41 PM

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Perhaps its time to mold down that Emerald Buddha so no one can have it? The story about the Emerald Buddha is getting worst every year as Thai claim that we are the guilty one who invaded them. But haven't our history shown that the Siamese actually did burnt down our city to the ground and stole most of our treasure? What more do Thailand want from Laos. We had always suffer worst under the Thai influence. Our culture and tradition are being rip apart by Thai-ness. Obviously the Lao government are ignoring it people. So their is no point for the Lao government to protect it people now.

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If we come in to the history, i hate Some thai people they makimg up all faulted stories

Thai  tourguide they are big lie to the tourist, they said Lao was belong to Thailand(Siam) because they were scare of Franch to occupy Thailand then they give Lao to franch.



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The truth is hurt and sometime by not knowing every things that might be better . There is no way to bring back yesterday. The history between LaneXang and Siam just liked the  bad wound which had been already healed . Only  the scare remained to remind  Lao people,  not to repeat the same mistake again by not to be united among Lao people which caused Lao people a big lost . Just could not blame any one but ourselves . Siam could not be successful to conquer LaneXang by herself without some help from Luang Praban or  without Laotian helped.



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As our border open up to Asean. Thailand will surely pour in its corrupt elite and foreign pedophile into Laos like they are doing to Thailand today. I'm sure in the next 20 years Laos will be like Thailand. At this time it will weaken our people and be a slave under our own country. Look at Thailand society today, which are divided into class system. The only Thai Citizen that have privilege are the elite which makes only the minority. Now the future table has turn.

Thailand will try all mean just to erase our history from ever being known what actually happened Thailand will always used a mis-information to the public just to confused others of the true history. Isn't obvious that this articles just stop right after they claim Laotian as an invaders? It seem that this person has some grudge or issue with our history by any mean necessary.

It is just little too far and too late for the Lao people to develop and introduce her to the international community as Thailand slowly eliminating our existence in SEA history. No one don't really want to hear anything about Lao history or our people for the reason that we are considered an invaders,secret or bad element that the Thai has introduce us in the past history.

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As our border open up to Asean. Thailand will surely pour in its corrupt elite and foreign pedophile into Laos like they are doing to Thailand today. I'm sure in the next 20 years Laos will be like Thailand. At this time it will weaken our people and be a slave under our own country. Look at Thailand society today, which are divided into class system. The only Thai Citizen that have privilege are the elite which makes only the minority. Now the future table has turn.

Thailand will try all mean just to erase our history from ever being known what actually happened Thailand will always used a mis-information to the public just to confused others of the true history. Isn't obvious that this articles just stop right after they claim Laotian as an invaders? It seem that this person has some grudge or issue with our history by any mean necessary.

It is just little too far and too late for the Lao people to develop and introduce her to the international community as Thailand slowly eliminating our existence in SEA history. No one don't really want to hear anything about Lao history or our people for the reason that we are considered an invaders,secret or bad element that the Thai has introduce us in the past history.


 No body and any nation on earth could not do any thing to Laos if the Lao leader and Lao government will not allow them to do . Once again it depends on , how well educated and intelligent that Lao leaders are . Laos have a lot of natural resource and also Laos is not  a poor country . For example south Korea government could be able to transform South Korean people from low educated to well educated and skill workers and  poverty to the most modern country in Asia unlike North Korea , million of people are starving to death each year that could be avoidable of unnecessary death.



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As our border open up to Asean. Thailand will surely pour in its corrupt elite and foreign pedophile into Laos like they are doing to Thailand today. I'm sure in the next 20 years Laos will be like Thailand. At this time it will weaken our people and be a slave under our own country. Look at Thailand society today, which are divided into class system. The only Thai Citizen that have privilege are the elite which makes only the minority. Now the future table has turn.

Thailand will try all mean just to erase our history from ever being known what actually happened Thailand will always used a mis-information to the public just to confused others of the true history. Isn't obvious that this articles just stop right after they claim Laotian as an invaders? It seem that this person has some grudge or issue with our history by any mean necessary.

It is just little too far and too late for the Lao people to develop and introduce her to the international community as Thailand slowly eliminating our existence in SEA history. No one don't really want to hear anything about Lao history or our people for the reason that we are considered an invaders,secret or bad element that the Thai has introduce us in the past history.


 No body and any nation on earth could not do any thing to Laos if the Lao leader and Lao government will not allow them to do . Once again it depends on , how well educated and intelligent that Lao leaders are . Laos have a lot of natural resource and also Laos is not  a poor country . For example south Korea government could be able to transform South Korean people from low educated to well educated and skill workers and  poverty to the most modern country in Asia unlike North Korea , million of people are starving to death each year that could be avoidable of unnecessary death.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Sunday 11th of March 2012 12:39:00 AM


 You should read some more news and blogs. Most foreigner thinks Lao and Thai people are the same people. And that there is a lot of foreigner who lived in Thailand who was taught to point at the Lao people as bad element or that we are a social problems. I think you need to do more of you're research before you lecture me.

 

Also you're not helping much in the end. Lao people today need a strong nationalism and leadership. Not those who would easily let everything go like the way you're attitude is now. Also, Laos government need to push it business and development much sooner. And education is also apart of this factor as well. I think Laos need to insert college math higher in High School so they can be ready for college and other jobs necessary for the up coming Asean and European integration in the future. It should be priority as with adding that with summer school.



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As our border open up to Asean. Thailand will surely pour in its corrupt elite and foreign pedophile into Laos like they are doing to Thailand today. I'm sure in the next 20 years Laos will be like Thailand. At this time it will weaken our people and be a slave under our own country. Look at Thailand society today, which are divided into class system. The only Thai Citizen that have privilege are the elite which makes only the minority. Now the future table has turn.

Thailand will try all mean just to erase our history from ever being known what actually happened Thailand will always used a mis-information to the public just to confused others of the true history. Isn't obvious that this articles just stop right after they claim Laotian as an invaders? It seem that this person has some grudge or issue with our history by any mean necessary.

It is just little too far and too late for the Lao people to develop and introduce her to the international community as Thailand slowly eliminating our existence in SEA history. No one don't really want to hear anything about Lao history or our people for the reason that we are considered an invaders,secret or bad element that the Thai has introduce us in the past history.


 No body and any nation on earth could not do any thing to Laos if the Lao leader and Lao government will not allow them to do . Once again it depends on , how well educated and intelligent that Lao leaders are . Laos have a lot of natural resource and also Laos is not  a poor country . For example south Korea government could be able to transform South Korean people from low educated to well educated and skill workers and  poverty to the most modern country in Asia unlike North Korea , million of people are starving to death each year that could be avoidable of unnecessary death.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Sunday 11th of March 2012 12:39:00 AM


 You should read some more news and blogs. Most foreigner thinks Lao and Thai people are the same people. And that there is a lot of foreigner who lived in Thailand who was taught to point at the Lao people as bad element or that we are a social problems. I think you need to do more of you're research before you lecture me.

 

Also you're not helping much in the end. Lao people today need a strong nationalism and leadership. Not those who would easily let everything go like the way you're attitude is now. Also, Laos government need to push it business and development much sooner. And education is also apart of this factor as well. I think Laos need to insert college math higher in High School so they can be ready for college and other jobs necessary for the up coming Asean and European integration in the future. It should be priority as with adding that with summer school.


 Matter of fact if we go back in time, Lao and Tai were come from the same ancestor Khounboulom. Lao people today need intelligent leaders who knows how to trade and capable to get Lao people out of poverty. South Korea leaders had done it , just only few decades after the war unlike North Korean leader. The north Korean people are still starving to death today in the 21st century . The truth is the truth. Nationalism like NAZI party ( Hitler ), No thank you. Lao people need intelligent and smart leader who could be able to transform Laos from the least developed and the poorest country and catch up with the civilized world in the 21st century.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Monday 12th of March 2012 05:13:23 AM

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The Victor of the war is always to be the good guy and the looser will be the bad guy anyway. We can see a sample from WW1 and WW2 looser, Hitler, that the world's considering him as a bad guy instead of he's a most smart guy in the world and he's good guy and want to change this world to be a peace place for the world population to live, that's what his plan.  There's not different from Siam or Thailand that they are telling lie to the tourists and claimed Emerald Buddha was belong to them before Laos or Lanexang took over and they came to take it back later. Siam or Thailand were changed their history to teach their Thai new generations and show to the world, especially Esan's history because they are the war in between Lanexang and Siam victors.

Put it in this way, just let them lie to the world but they can't lie to them self.



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The Victor of the war is always to be the good guy and the looser will be the bad guy anyway. We can see a sample from WW1 and WW2 looser, Hitler, that the world's considering him as a bad guy instead of he's a most smart guy in the world and he's good guy and want to change this world to be a peace place for the world population to live, that's what his plan.  There's not different from Siam or Thailand that they are telling lie to the tourists and claimed Emerald Buddha was belong to them before Laos or Lanexang took over and they came to take it back later. Siam or Thailand were changed their history to teach their Thai new generations and show to the world, especially Esan's history because they are the war in between Lanexang and Siam victors.

Put it in this way, just let them lie to the world but they can't lie to them self.


 You must be kidding me to say that Hitler was the most smart guy, to me Hitler was just a cool blood murderer and the most evil man on earth .He was insane ,in his mind full of hatred and racist. Fifty six millions lives had been killed by Hitler during the world war 2 . Six millions  Jew alone  and 26 millions Russian that including the civilian and innocent people , women and children .His plan was to be master race ( Blond hair and blue eye ) to conquer the world . Lanexang  lost the war to Siam because Lao people were not united and help Siam to win the war. So Lao must accept the defeat and  the lost of Emerald Buddha and Esan . Esan people don't want to be part of Laos any way . The same as California which used to be part of Mexico . No body who lived in California want California to be returnd to Mexico and to be part of Mexico . There is no way to bring back yesterday but Lao could learn from the mistake in the past and not to repeat the same mistake again but to make Laos to be a better place to live . Don't get mad and get even but get smart and get ahead.

 

 



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The Victor of the war is always to be the good guy and the looser will be the bad guy anyway. We can see a sample from WW1 and WW2 looser, Hitler, that the world's considering him as a bad guy instead of he's a most smart guy in the world and he's good guy and want to change this world to be a peace place for the world population to live, that's what his plan.  There's not different from Siam or Thailand that they are telling lie to the tourists and claimed Emerald Buddha was belong to them before Laos or Lanexang took over and they came to take it back later. Siam or Thailand were changed their history to teach their Thai new generations and show to the world, especially Esan's history because they are the war in between Lanexang and Siam victors.

Put it in this way, just let them lie to the world but they can't lie to them self.


 You must be kidding me to say that Hitler was the most smart guy, to me Hitler was just a cool blood murderer and the most evil man on earth .He was insane ,in his mind full of hatred and racist. Fifty six millions lives had been killed by Hitler during the world war 2 . Six millions  Jew alone  and 26 millions Russian that including the civilian and innocent people , women and children .His plan was to be master race ( Blond hair and blue eye ) to conquer the world . Lanexang  lost the war to Siam because Lao people were not united and help Siam to win the war. So Lao must accept the defeat and  the lost of Emerald Buddha and Esan . Esan people don't want to be part of Laos any way . The same as California which used to be part of Mexico . No body who lived in California want California to be returnd to Mexico and to be part of Mexico . There is no way to bring back yesterday but Lao could learn from the mistake in the past and not to repeat the same mistake again but to make Laos to be a better place to live . Don't get mad and get even but get smart and get ahead.

 

 



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Monday 12th of March 2012 12:56:28 PM


Because of he's looser right that's why you think Hitler was just a cool blood murder and was most a evil man on earth because he was a war's looser. A looser is always be a ugly target for millions eyes. If Hitler won the both WW, I bet he will be a perfect man on earth and every people will see only his good things and forget about 60 millions and plus of those people that he killed them.

I am Laotian and I do not very care about the war in between Lanexang and Siam or filling with feeling bad or hate Siam or Thailand ever since I went through our history during that war time. Champasack, Luang-Prabang and Muong Phouan kingdoms was supporting Siamese troops defeated Lanxang. I hate these 3 kingdoms instead of Siam or Thailand. 



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The Victor of the war is always to be the good guy and the looser will be the bad guy anyway. We can see a sample from WW1 and WW2 looser, Hitler, that the world's considering him as a bad guy instead of he's a most smart guy in the world and he's good guy and want to change this world to be a peace place for the world population to live, that's what his plan.  There's not different from Siam or Thailand that they are telling lie to the tourists and claimed Emerald Buddha was belong to them before Laos or Lanexang took over and they came to take it back later. Siam or Thailand were changed their history to teach their Thai new generations and show to the world, especially Esan's history because they are the war in between Lanexang and Siam victors.

Put it in this way, just let them lie to the world but they can't lie to them self.


 You must be kidding me to say that Hitler was the most smart guy, to me Hitler was just a cool blood murderer and the most evil man on earth .He was insane ,in his mind full of hatred and racist. Fifty six millions lives had been killed by Hitler during the world war 2 . Six millions  Jew alone  and 26 millions Russian that including the civilian and innocent people , women and children .His plan was to be master race ( Blond hair and blue eye ) to conquer the world . Lanexang  lost the war to Siam because Lao people were not united and help Siam to win the war. So Lao must accept the defeat and  the lost of Emerald Buddha and San . Esan people don't want to be part of Laos any way . The same as California which used to be part of Mexico . No body who lived in California want California to be returned to Mexico and to be part of Mexico . There is no way to bring back yesterday but Lao could learn from the mistake in the past and not to repeat the same mistake again but to make Laos to be a better place to live . Don't get mad and get even but get smart and get ahead.

 

 



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Monday 12th of March 2012 12:56:28 PM


Because of he's looser right that's why you think Hitler was just a cool blood murder and was most a evil man on earth because he was a war's looser. A looser is always be a ugly target for millions eyes. If Hitler won the both WW, I bet he will be a perfect man on earth and every people will see only his good things and forget about 60 millions and plus of those people that he killed them.

I am Laotian and I do not very care about the war in between Lanexang and Siam or filling with feeling bad or hate Siam or Thailand ever since I went through our history during that war time. Champasak, Luang-Prabang and Muang Phuan kingdoms was supporting Siamese troops defeated Lanxang. I hate these 3 kingdoms instead of Siam or Thailand. 


 It is not about Hitler lost the war . It is about what kind of man that Hitler was and about his personality and character and what he had done to the innocent children and people . If Hitler have won the war . The blond hair and blue eyed men and women will be the master race and conquer the world . Perhaps all other race such as Jewish , black ,Gypsy, mix race  Russian and Asian that Hitler considered to be sub-human would be exterminated .You might still be NAZI slave or exterminated .That is right Siam had won the war because Lao people helped Siam to win the war. If the French did not come to take Champasak and Luang Prabang away from Siam. Luang Praban might love to be part of Siam like Esan and Lanna today that is why Siam return Prabang back to Luang Prabang because Luang Prabang was royal to Siam for over 100 of years in the same way with Lanna and Esan today .But Siam would never return Emerald Buddha to Vientiane because Vientiane tried  to gain the independent from siam in any opportunity that Vientiane had .But it was too bad Jao Anouvong failed because Luang Prabang , Champasack and Jao Noi Muong Puoung (XiengKuan) betrayed him.This is the truth and hope Samakomlao allow me to tell the truth .


 



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And you say that Lao people need a good strong leadership? I don't see you being a smart one here. But failed you're own wishes.

Obviously you contradict yourself and flip flop what you met you said. Please! Anyone reading you're whining attitude just shown how weak you're pride of being a Lao are. Do you even expect letting these kind of issue go quitely will help Lao people have self pride and nationalism of you're own people? Look at our history that shown us doing so that these Thai nationalist are still treating us like dogs. And what they have introduce to the world of lies and teaching of history. People are favoring Thailand history and their nationalist insertion directly. Which obviously a threat to any country national security and such etc.

Example of that is 'Les Majesty Law' within Laos own territory. Why should Laos recognized such law for it not a law of our people? Also how can Thailand criticized us if we cannot? Dark Angel I think you need to do more research about our people now and how Thailand itself does effect our people and our pride of being Lao.

All I'm hearing from you is just to give up being Lao and everything else related to what make us Lao to Thai. Also Nazi Germany is the example of where Thailand direction will be in the future of S.E.A. Thailand still has social issue not only within their own country. But also with it neighbors by claiming them as invaders or enemy of the state and people of Thailand. Thailand is opening up a new chapter in the future and it won't look too nice.

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And you say that Lao people need a good strong leadership? I don't see you being a smart one here. But failed you're own wishes.

Obviously you contradict yourself and flip flop what you met you said. Please! Anyone reading you're whining attitude just shown how weak you're pride of being a Lao are. Do you even expect letting these kind of issue go quietly will help Lao people have self pride and nationalism of you're own people? Look at our history that shown us doing so that these Thai nationalist are still treating us like dogs. And what they have introduce to the world of lies and teaching of history. People are favoring Thailand history and their nationalist insertion directly. Which obviously a threat to any country national security and such etc.

Example of that is 'Les Majesty Law' within Laos own territory. Why should Laos recognized such law for it not a law of our people? Also how can Thailand criticized us if we cannot? Dark Angel I think you need to do more research about our people now and how Thailand itself does effect our people and our pride of being Lao.

All I'm hearing from you is just to give up being Lao and everything else related to what make us Lao to Thai. Also Nazi Germany is the example of where Thailand direction will be in the future of S.E.A. Thailand still has social issue not only within their own country. But also with it neighbors by claiming them as invaders or enemy of the state and people of Thailand. Thailand is opening up a new chapter in the future and it won't look too nice.


  I know what you are thinking and feeling about Siam, just like the black people in the United States who were brought to be the slaves 350 years ago. If every time and every thing in their lives went wrong and when they are not made it lives  so they blame the white men. Well , not any more , there are a lot of intelligent black people and a lot of black billionaires today .Obama is the first black US president , and there will more black , Asian and Hispanic presidents and senators and governor in the future . Every thing is possible . Well , my brother you like nationalism and want to get mad and get even , it doesn't bring Lao and Laos to go any where but disaster (war and hatred and revenge) .If Lao people just try to get smart and get well educated and get ahead and get wealthy that will help Lao people and country to be better place to live. This is 21st century, it is the time for science and economy ( brain and mind , science and money ). So it is possible that Laos could be out of poverty sooner than  the year 2020 .

 



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Dude. You just contradict yourself. Its not all about revenge or get even? Where did I even mention that? Perhaps that's what you see. Please don't act like you're words are wise and smart.

Also what is with you and black Slavery America? Or Siam? Where are you getting all of these fuss? Funny that you think you're all smart since you wouldn't even compare Lao history with America. Lao and Thai situation goes much deeper and of course every individual Lao/Laotian knows this very well. Unlike you who seem to be a closed minded person and cannot see the broader spectrum of the situation. Also I did not say gaining nationalism or pride were wrong or right. But that is how you create a society in each individual country to better not ourselves. But for every Lao people in Laos and the world.

Between my opinion and yours. I'm more assertive, then you're so so opinion. Which makes you sound like you don't know jack! Having peace among these Thai nationalist can never really be fully peaceful at all. Having said this. Development and gaining nationalism wouldn't exist if they live in full peace. And of course there is smart way to gain our potential and that would be a professional outlaw in secret that can do this or change the path of history in favoring our selves.

The Thai's and the Vietnamese government has done so now. Why can't Laos and the Lao people? Think about it. Before you act smart because again you don't know anything but the front title of politic and how society is the backbone of any government around the world.

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Dude. You just contradict yourself. Its not all about revenge or get even? Where did I even mention that? Perhaps that's what you see. Please don't act like you're words are wise and smart.

Also what is with you and black Slavery America? Or Siam? Where are you getting all of these fuss? Funny that you think you're all smart since you wouldn't even compare Lao history with America. Lao and Thai situation goes much deeper and of course every individual Lao/Laotian knows this very well. Unlike you who seem to be a closed minded person and cannot see the broader spectrum of the situation. Also I did not say gaining nationalism or pride were wrong or right. But that is how you create a society in each individual country to better not ourselves. But for every Lao people in Laos and the world.

Between my opinion and yours. I'm more assertive, then you're so so opinion. Which makes you sound like you don't know jack! Having peace among these Thai nationalist can never really be fully peaceful at all. Having said this. Development and gaining nationalism wouldn't exist if they live in full peace. And of course there is smart way to gain our potential and that would be a professional outlaw in secret that can do this or change the path of history in favoring our selves.

The Thai and the Vietnamese government has done so now. Why can't Laos and the Lao people? Think about it. Before you act smart because again you don't know anything but the front title of politic and how society is the backbone of any government around the world.


   There is no different between white men brought the black people to be their slaves  in America  and murdered the Red Indian and stole their land and the Mongol( Genghis Khan) invaded China , Persia , Russia , Ukraine , Romania and Poland and Hitler invaded Russia and the Japanese invaded China and the French and the British conquered most of the world in 18th century until the end of world war ll , they all had done the same thing . The Siamese burned down Vientiane twice and raped Lao women and massacre the Laotian, stole Laotian's gold and treasure such as Emerald Buddha and Laotian 's land and also brought Lao people to Siam to be their slaves for centuries. Very well , every 6 grade elementary students know all of these. You seem to be very smart person and go ahead , say what you feel and do what you want . Good luck and don't forget to ask yourself that India and China are  much bigger than Siam and why the British conquered India and be able to conquer part of China but none of the British and the French and European countries were able to conquer Siam . Also the Mongolia was so small country and  did not  have the big army why Genghis Khan was able to conquer the biggest land in history . So there is no excuse to say that Laos is the small country and land lock country which caused the slow progress of development . Singapore is just only tiny island which has to import every thing even the drinking water but they have well educated and intelligent government which invested heavily on education and educated their people to become well educated and skill workers which transformed their country from poverty to the most modern and successful country in Asia.

 



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I'm sure every individual Laotian knows who is our enemy is and who is a threat for our national security as people Laos origin.

It's time for Laos and the people to play smart and its now.

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