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doesn't matter which country Lao people went to study , after they are graduate

they do not want to go back to Laos , I know some go study in Thailand and some

in Vietnam they won't come back home to serve their mother Land , Do Laos have

no Law of the Land ?



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Yeah i noticed the same thing. 

They don't want to go back. 

The poorer folks don't go back because there's no opportunity for them back home. 

The richer folks are too busy shopping/spending money and partying overseas.



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That's because Laos is a shiet hole, full of idiots. Who would want to go back to some place like that?

It's like an ammish person seeing what life truly is and never going back.

Only the Lao who live off the foreign aid corruption like the gov't families want to stay cause they get rich and say how good Laos is.

But the rest can go fack themselves cause they get shiet on.

Watch all the haters come and deny it. Why do people defend such a shiety country for? They come on here and say how good Laos is when it's the ****tiest place on earth.



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That's because Laos is a shiet hole, full of idiots. Who would want to go back to some place like that?

It's like an ammish person seeing what life truly is and never going back.

Only the Lao who live off the foreign aid corruption like the gov't families want to stay cause they get rich and say how good Laos is.

But the rest can go fack themselves cause they get shiet on.

Watch all the haters come and deny it. Why do people defend such a shiety country for? They come on here and say how good Laos is when it's the ****tiest place on earth.


 Someone is bitter still about having to run away back in the 70's. biggrin I don't know what the hell you are knocking Laos for but the way a lot of Lao people live today is the same way your parents and grandparents were living and they had it worse then it is now.

 

Look yes we get it the government is corrupt. I won't even deny it. All governments are corrupt. Go to all the said democracies around the world and corruption is still there. The only nations that are 1st world are nations that preyed upon others. All the imperialist nations are still first world because they basically took over whatever they wanted from others and used it. USA and Europe are the 1st world. It would be totally different if Laos was imperialist like America and invaded whoever they wanted and took the resources.  I am a socialist and hate to see the corruption of Lao PDR but I have to wait and see how it will be in the future. I want our socialist system to flourish and not stagnate like it is starting to.

It didn't help Laos either that basically the country was stagnant when France was in charge and pampering the royal family for all those years. Vietnamese held most political positions and were the most enrolled in schools. There was no middle class, but now in Laos there is. People without government connections are making money enough to have very high standards of life. The same couldn't be said  during your parents time.



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Yeah i noticed the same thing. 

They don't want to go back. 

The poorer folks don't go back because there's no opportunity for them back home. 

The richer folks are too busy shopping/spending money and partying overseas.


A lot of the richer Lao kids never finish school abroad but go back home and lie that they did. 

 

I saw a rich Lao girl from VTE humping some bald headed jersey shore looking guy in the VIP of a Las Vegas night club.  Those rich Lao girls are wild.



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Just travel around Thailand a bit and you see people from Laos working all over Thailand.  Some work office jobs, in hotels, factories and a lot are whoring.  I've seen Lao women from Laos well into their 40's whoring, so it's not just the younger women.  Every province in Thailand has Lao whores.  A lot of these girls seem to enjoy this type of work because they're lazy.  It's sad but it's reality.  Lao factory/hotel/office workers a lot of times are put down by their Thai coworkers but there isn't much they can do because they can't go back home and make next to nothing.



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Thongsing Thammavong didn't even finish the 5th grade!  Now you see why the Viets like him so much.  They're his daddy and he does as "they" say.

 



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Right... Still on the "Viets control everything" thought right? Isn't that getting kind of old. The Viets even controlled when the king allowed Laos to be bombed for 7 years. Oh wait no that wasn't the Viets .

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On trips to Vietnam, Khamtai Siphandon used to give speeches in Vietnamese the same way Hun Sen does.



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On trips to Vietnam, Khamtai Siphandon used to give speeches in Vietnamese the same way Hun Sen does.


 hmmWOW really? I had no idea. I am also pretty sure when delegates go to ASEAN meetings they at least try to speak in ENGLISH right? Because it is the official working language of the association. Why do you people care so much about Vietnam? You are so afraid of the Vietnamese and its been 30+ years after the war. Again believe it or not if Vietnam wanted to just capture the whole Lao country they could with ease.... I am not a fan of the Vietnamese (I am pro China) but its not like they are some kind of secret shadow society ruling over Laos.  You should be sad that your country is controlled by a top 1% who make rules and regulations solely for their benefit.

 

PS If you want to keep the same logic, I guess when the Royals of Lao spoke French when addressing their French masters, that made them the same as Lao who speak Vietnamese in Vietnam?biggrin



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Laos belongs to all people of Lao ancestry, not just greedy Lao officials.

 

Lao Nok/Lao Nai are all related.  It's the same people.  It's only the small percentage of Lao officials that have tried to create a divide between the two and have failed.  People still love their families.

 

Even Chounmaly Sayasone has A LOT of Lao Nok relatives.  Khamtai Siphandon treats his Lao Nok relatives like gold every time they visit.  All the bull**** they used to talk about Lao Nok in the past means NOTHING to them.

 

Bounyang Vorachit's granddaughter just married a farang bum.  She went to live overseas and met him there.  The Vorachit's paid for the whole wedding.  It's popular among rich Lao women to marry farang because it's exotic to them.  Usually any farang will do, even the poor ones, because the women take care of them anyways.  I've seen rich Lao women pay their own dowry when marrying farangs just to show "face" to the other rich Lao families.  Sucks how Lao men would have to pay high dowry for these women but some of the farangs get them for free. 

 

A lot of Lao Nok are up to date with all the happenings in Laos because they have relatives in Laos and also visit yearly.



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Laos belongs to all people of Lao ancestry, not just greedy Lao officials.

 

Lao Nok/Lao Nai are all related.  It's the same people.  It's only the small percentage of Lao officials that have tried to create a divide between the two and have failed.  People still love their families.

 

Even Chounmaly Sayasone has A LOT of Lao Nok relatives.  Khamtai Siphandon treats his Lao Nok relatives like gold every time they visit.  All the bull**** they used to talk about Lao Nok in the past means NOTHING to them.

 

Bounyang Vorachit's granddaughter just married a farang bum.  She went to live overseas and met him there.  The Vorachit's paid for the whole wedding.  It's popular among rich Lao women to marry farang because it's exotic to them.  Usually any farang will do, even the poor ones, because the women take care of them anyways.  I've seen rich Lao women pay their own dowry when marrying farangs just to show "face" to the other rich Lao families.  Sucks how Lao men would have to pay high dowry for these women but some of the farangs get them for free. 

 

A lot of Lao Nok are up to date with all the happenings in Laos because they have relatives in Laos and also visit yearly.


 disbelief aww don't cry lao women have been taken. They even marry gangster African Americans too in America and Lao Americans even like to act like them. What is the point of your racist attitude?  Nobody was talking about Lao people marrying other races confuse

And so what? They love their family regardless their political background. Surely the same in America as well right? I think that is anywhere around the world.... Again what is your argument? When I say I dislike imperialists and those who supported imperialists I mean the ones involved in political and military movements.

 

 

 



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Yeah right, read your own post dodo.  You stay dissing all Lao Nok.

 

You're a Lao Nok yourself but you pretend to live in Laos.  Other posters have posted many things about Laos and you have no idea what they're talking about. 



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Yeah right, read your own post dodo.  You stay dissing all Lao Nok.

 

You're a Lao Nok yourself but you pretend to live in Laos.  Other posters have posted many things about Laos and you have no idea what they're talking about. 


No one is crying over Lao women.  A lot of unmarried Lao women are working as whores in Thailand anyway.  I didn't make them go.  There not a lot job opportunities in Laos.  The Lao PDR actually encourages them to go.

 

Lao women can marry who they want including blacks.  That's not the point.  I was just making a point of how hypocritical people like Bounyang Vorachit is.  They love to talk crap about Chakkaput etc but his own granddaughter is married to a so called Chakkaput.

 

Those men with less than a 5th grade education don't mean anything they say.  They don't care about that bull**** they used to say in the 80's.  They know Lao Nok would get in the way of them fattening up their pockets.  If you don't think that's their main motivation then you're just insulting your own intelligence.



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Yeah right, read your own post dodo.  You stay dissing all Lao Nok.

 

You're a Lao Nok yourself but you pretend to live in Laos.  Other posters have posted many things about Laos and you have no idea what they're talking about. 


 confuselol ok what proof do you want that I live in Laos now? You want my village name and address? You want my naiban's name? How about my car id card? or my license? Or do I have to scan my family book for you oh great American? Go get a life and fix your own Lao peoples situation in Amerikkka before fixing it in a country you left willingly. Whine and whine all day but do nothing to fix the big bad "Vietnamese leaders" who run Laos similar to nazi germany ( in Lao norks minds biggrin )

Maybe that is why you love America. People whine and complain and believe they have democracy but really all their complaining does nothing. The two parties in all honesty aren't against each other and the top 1% richest people  along with the CIA control Amerikkka.

And if you really want further proof just ask the site manager for my IP address. You can see my location clearly aww

 



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Aren't you the same guy that said Lao youth don't like Korean pop culture and Lao people don't like Thai entertainment.  Anyone who spends time in Laos, which i would think is most people in this board, would think differently.  You say a lot of stuff that contradicts your claims of living in Laos.

Who cares where you live.  You know very little about he current happenings in Laos.  If you do live in Laos you probably stay inside all day and read books from the 60's. 

 

You talk **** about the other places but Lao PDR officials' families LOVE traveling and living in the west.  That's them.  Why do you think the original topic poster asked the question he did?

 

 

 



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One of the favorite school for Lao rich kids in RBAC in BKK which is pretty expensive.  One farang professor their said a rich Lao girl gave him "the clap".  That's what he gets for not knowing how to use protection.

A Lao RBAC student was just on the news recently for running over a Thai girl with his Porsche.  He took off but they caught him.  He was high on Yaba and drunk.



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One of the favorite school for Lao rich kids in RBAC in BKK which is pretty expensive.  One farang professor their said a rich Lao girl gave him "the clap".  That's what he gets for not knowing how to use protection.

A Lao RBAC student was just on the news recently for running over a Thai girl with his Porsche.  He took off but they caught him.  He was high on Yaba and drunk.


 No sources... this is how Lao norks have fun by making up stories about Lao PDR to justify their ancestors siding with Amerikkka. First of all the porsche driver was a rich Siam idiot... Do you actually read or you just make up things?  Kambai Inthilat, Lao citizen, was the girl killed by Peerapol Thaksinthaweesap obviously Thai trash.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/03/31/opinion/Another-case-of-elitism-30152145.html

Again no sources for your other gossip either. Please post sources or don't open your mouth when you try to denegrade others. But I know you are used to that kind of garbage talk because America is full of it.



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That's a different incident.  It happened a while back.  That was a smaller Porsche.

In the other incident he Lao driver went to RBAC and he drove a SUV.  Was on Thai news a month ago.

You don't watch the Thai news so you wouldn't know.  You dislike all things Thai remember.



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That's a different incident.  It happened a while back.  That was a smaller Porsche.

In the other incident he Lao driver went to RBAC and he drove a SUV.  Was on Thai news a month ago.

You don't watch the Thai news so you wouldn't know.  You dislike all things Thai remember.


 links or it didn't happen. I can say anything happened a couple months ago. cry



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and what difference does it make? I can say American pilots bombed the sh;t out of Laos for 8 years and didn't care at all. And you know what? It is actually true. But you dumbasses are fixated on finding any Lao  that goes overseas or has money that is from the Lao PDR(and making up stories). You still have done nothing to improve your own populace (Lao Americans) and their 50/50 chance of graduating high school. It is like an ex boyfriend who continually tries to get with a girl that has already married and moved on. He made mistakes and she left him but he still keeps trying and trying and then when he fails he slanders her and digs up dirt.



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No one cares.

 

 

Lao people have been in the Thai news a lot in the past couple of years.  You here about Lao people doing stuff in Thailand at least twice a week.

Lao people of every social class live/work/visit in Thailand everyday.

There was a Lao guy in Phathum Thani that stabbed a Thai women over an argument over a borrowed pot. 

Lao prostitutes are on the news weekly.  Same with the Yaba people.

Rich Lao kids are rarely on the news but that particular kid was out clubbing on a Fri/Saturday night and ran over a girl.  They even mentioned his school RBAC.  It was small story and not as widely reported as the prior incident where the Lao girl got sliced in two.

Lao people are on the Thai news almost daily nowadays.  It used to be once in a long time but times have changed.

 



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No one cares.

 

 

Lao people have been in the Thai news a lot in the past couple of years.  You here about Lao people doing stuff in Thailand at least twice a week.

Lao people of every social class live/work/visit in Thailand everyday.

There was a Lao guy in Phathum Thani that stabbed a Thai women over an argument over a borrowed pot. 

Lao prostitutes are on the news weekly.  Same with the Yaba people.

Rich Lao kids are rarely on the news but that particular kid was out clubbing on a Fri/Saturday night and ran over a girl.  They even mentioned his school RBAC.  It was small story and not as widely reported as the prior incident where the Lao girl got sliced in two.

Lao people are on the Thai news almost daily nowadays.  It used to be once in a long time but times have changed.

 


 I still don't get the entire point of the conversation. Just saying that Lao people are on Thai news all the time what does it prove? Americans go to Canada to get cheaper medicine and even cheaper treatment, same with Mexican Americans going to Mexico.  Americans are also going to India of all places for cheaper medical treatment too. So what?

No Lao American girls are prostitutes? Oh yea that is right they can choose to be in gangs and follow their high school dropout Lao American boyfriend in selling drugs.

Another current problem in the community is the high rate of Laotian American youth going to prison, reportedly the highest rate among all Southeast Asian youth. Many reasons can be cited for this problem, but lack of parental involvement is a major factor.

Laos has the ability to grow its own food? I guess but it would be a lot easier if the land wasn't still covered in bombies. confuse 

So between 25 to 50% of the land is unfarmable. Show me a country that can grow its own food with that large of a percentage of land that cant be used.

Today, the people of Laos are still suffering. 25% of agricultural land here is unfarmable, and around 200 people a year are still killed by UXO. MAG are working hard to alleviate this problem - clearing Laos of UXO hectare by hectare. I'll be seeing the affects of UXO throughout my journey, and I'd really like to raise some funds to help clear a little bit more of more of this beautiful country

Laos is the most bombed country in the world, with 270 million bombs dropped across its landscape during the Indochina war (UXO LAO 2010). 30 of those bombs failed to detonate, currently contaminating 50% of the agriculture land in Laos (UXO LAO 2010) and weakening the country's food security.

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RBAC is an English language University.  That's why a lot of Lao students go there.  It's quite expensive even to the Thais. 

Lao Students like to start off at Chula, Thammasat, Bangkok U but then end up going to places like Ramkhamhaeng.

This has been going on since at least the mid 90's.  I remember a few Lao PDR students studying in Bangkok at that time.  Now they're all over Bangkok.

 

 



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How come anonymous always ignores me when I bring up issues about the Lao American community? They are quick to yell and scream at the Lao PDR community and honestly don't do anythign to fix either one (Lao American or Lao PDR). They talk, talk and talk with no facts only girl like gossiping.

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No ones reading your post buddy.  Move on.



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No ones reading your post buddy.  Move on.


 I can keep repeating myself I don't mind. Until you fix your own peoples' situation in Amerikkka, stop gossiping and complaining about a nation 5000 miles from you.  Last time I checked Laos is not North Korea, people can leave on their own will. So if your family is here then take them to the land of the free and opportunity(amerikkka). Nothing is stopping you. confuse

 

Facts about the "successes" of Lao Americans

Another current problem in the community is the high rate of Laotian American youth going to prison, reportedly the highest rate among all Southeast Asian youth. Many reasons can be cited for this problem, but lack of parental involvement is a major factor.

2 low among the K-12 population: 62% of Vietnamese American students graduate, along with 51% of Laotian Americans, 47% of Khmer Americans, and 41% of Hmong Americans (Niedzwiecki & Duong, 2004). An even lower percentage of Southeast Asian adults hold high school diplomas and college degrees (U.S. Census Bureau, 2002),

In fact, SEAAs in particular face significant educational disparities. When compared to 85.3% of the overall U.S. population, disaggregated data reveals that only 61.5% of Cambodian, 61.7% of Hmong, 62.5% of Laotian, and 70% of Vietnamese Americans aged 25 and over hold a high school degree or higher.1

A favorite thing for Lao Americans to do is complain about the Vietnamese running Laos. confuse yet Vietnamese Americans graduate from high school and college more than Lao Americans... What is that supposed to show us? You complain that Lao pdr people allow Vietnam to run Laos, yet Lao Americans can't even do better than Vietnamese Americans.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/From-Southeast-Asia-to-a-violent-East-Bay-Gang-2749878.php#photo-2188691

I keep seeing things happen to my family because of the war," Boonkeut, 48, said. "I came to this country and I think they'll be safe, but this happens. I feel like no matter what I do, I can't keep them safe."

West Contra Costa County's Southeast Asian community grew during the 1980s and '90s and has reached about 10,000. Parents of Southeast Asian teens push them to be obedient and become successful professionals, while school encourages them to follow their own interests and express themselves, said Phang Toomaly Anderson, executive director of the United Laotian Community Development Center.

They feel stuck in the middle, one foot on each side of a cultural divide.

"They want you to be wealthy and smart," said Vanhsai Nompraseurt, 19, of Richmond, who joined Sons of Death at age 15 but decided to leave two years later after being locked up in a youth detention facility. "When they got here, they didn't know America was going to be crazy."

 

http://www.searac.org/content/education

http://udini.proquest.com/view/the-educational-experiences-of-lao-pqid:2396532301/

 

Here is the Lao 'American Dream' biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin http://www.ksl.com/?sid=5977330

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Wow you sure do like to post about Lao Noks.  You're either a Lao Nok yourself or a Lao Nok that went back to live in Laos because you post **** about Lao Noks but don't know **** about current stuff in Laos.

I'm not even gonna read your bull**** novels.

If you want to talk about gangs, every immigrant group from the irish, germans, french had gangs for decades.  Every immigrant group goes through that faze.  Laos aren't even immigrants.  They're refugees, they didn't want to leave Laos in the first place.  If you want to talk about Asian gangs Vietnamese have the most and are the majority of Asian inmates in the system.  Again, Vietnamese are more numerous than Laos or Khmers.  Vietnamese live in large ethnic enclaves and rely on their communities.  Lao have no large enclaves like the Viets.  Lao are thinly spread out.  Many Lao grew up in Hispanic neighborhoods and you know how prevalent gangs are in their neighborhoods.

It's what's called success in numbers.  There are successful Lao and some of them grew up gang banging. So what? People don't gang bang their whole life.  It's a youth thing. 

You should know.  You've lived here.



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I don't think this dummy knows that the majority of Lao refugees were farmers.  Of course they're not going to have diplomas and degrees.  He needs to get his head out of his ass.  In his mind, they were all rich french educated Lao businessmen.  He needs to get real.  The gang culture is not even big in the Lao communities anymore.  That stuff was popular in the late 80's-early 90's and only small Lao gangs remained that were mostly inactive. Late 80's-early 90's were wild times in general for youth that grew up in the inner city.

Like i said most Lao refugees were farmers.  The east Asians and Filipinos are successful because their immigration policies are strict and mostly the well off educated classes get to immigrate to the west.  Look at the Filipinos, some of them go to the west with 2-3 degrees and a lot of them go through bull**** nursing programs back home.  Plus they learn English at an early age which helps with job finding.  Koreans immigrate go to the US with on average $300,000 and even they have degrees. They sell all their cars, homes, land before they move. Many of them are well educated but can't speak English, so they set up dry cleaning business and liquor stores while they send their kids to top schools. 

Most Hmongs didn't even go to school in Laos because they were isolated in the mountains.  Now you have a lot of successful Hmong doctors, lawyers, businessmen.  Many of these people grew up in ghettos and some were in gangs but grew out of that phase.  Many Lao and Hmong overseas volunteer to help the less fortunate in Laos.  Even People/Buddist Monks from Laos go to the west to raise money to build Lao temples, schools, and hospitals.  Lao still worry about the fate of their birth place.  There's no denying it.

The Lao temple in India where all the Lao PDR officials stay at when they do pilgrimage in India was started by oversea Lao not Lao PDR officials.  Thailand has like 4-5 temples in India.  India gave Laos a plot of land but no one built anything on it.  Then some oversea Lao and Lao monks decided to raise money to build one. 

 



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I don't think this dummy knows that the majority of Lao refugees were farmers.  Of course they're not going to have diplomas and degrees.  He needs to get his head out of his ass.  In his mind, they were all rich french educated Lao businessmen.  He needs to get real.  The gang culture is not even big in the Lao communities anymore.  That stuff was popular in the late 80's-early 90's and only small Lao gangs remained that were mostly inactive. Late 80's-early 90's were wild times in general for youth that grew up in the inner city.

Like i said most Lao refugees were farmers.  The east Asians and Filipinos are successful because their immigration policies are strict and mostly the well off educated classes get to immigrate to the west.  Look at the Filipinos, some of them go to the west with 2-3 degrees and a lot of them go through bull**** nursing programs back home.  Plus they learn English at an early age which helps with job finding.  Koreans immigrate go to the US with on average $300and even they have degrees. They sell all their cars, homes, land before they move. Many of them are well educated but can't speak English, so they set up dry cleaning business and liquor stores while they send their kids to top schools. 

Most Hmongs didn't even go to school in Laos because they were isolated in the mountains.  Now you have a lot of successful Hmong doctors, lawyers, businessmen.  Many of these people grew up in ghettos and some were in gangs but grew out of that phase.  Many Lao and Hmong overseas volunteer to help the less fortunate in Laos.  Even People/Buddist Monks from Laos go to the west to raise money to build Lao temples, schools, and hospitals.  Lao still worry about the fate of their birth place.  There's no denying it.

The Lao temple in India where all the Lao PDR officials stay at when they do pilgrimage in India was started by oversea Lao not Lao PDR officials.  Thailand has like 4-5 temples in India.  India gave Laos a plot of land but no one built anything on it.  Then some oversea Lao and Lao monks decided to raise money to build one. 

 


Hm refugee? So you call someone who wwillingly supported the 7 year bombing of Laos refugees? Wow interesting. I guess if Germans who supported the Nazis wanted to leave after the Soviets came in are they called "refugees" too? It was all their choice. Nobody forced Lao into supporting Amerikkka. But something America did do is brainwash you.

You see America was dropping notes from the sky warning people to not support the evil viets and pathet lao, while at the same time bombing Laos to hell. The result? Lao had to flee from the bomb areas,not from the Vietnamese or Pathet Lao.  They used the scare of vietnam and racism to make lao join them. Those who joined the Amerikkkans caused pain on themselves. I Know i know they had to run right?

Because the CIA would have treated the Pathet Lao so warmly and nicely after the war right? 

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You have numbers on the success of Lao Americans? All I see is negative stats. Also Lao American girls are leaders in teen pregnancy stats as well.  Dropping out of high school sure isn't fun huh 



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Way to go off topic and speaking.  This dodo is really retarded.  He must sit in his room all day looking at pictures of Cai Song Nguyen and kisses it while singing old Pathet Lao songs that were written to the tune of old Vietnamese songs. 

Straight up has his head up his ass.

I don't even he takes himself seriously. yawn

 



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Way to go off topic and speaking nonsense.  This dodo is really retarded.  He must sit in his room all day looking at pictures of Cai Song Nguyen and kisses it while singing old Pathet Lao songs that were written to the tune of old Vietnamese songs. 

Straight up has his head up his ass.

I don't even he takes himself seriously. yawn

 




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Lol  I didn't go off topic everything is relevant with your response. One, Lao Americans like to play the victim card in America all the time. I have no problem woth that because I do believe America is racist. It's hard to play the victim card when you chose to go to America,and your ancestor s supported them.  Just like if the west won the war I hardly believe they would be nice to leftists and the pathet Lao. 

I go by numbers, you go by pseudo facts. You throw a lot of info out there but don't back anything up. All  my info is always with facts. 

In regard to the other immigrants to America , I say so what?  They all chose to go there  and they have to deal with whatever happens. America is not some magic land where people go and become rich in 2 years. A lot of Lao learned tbat the hard way.  Buying on credit doesn't make  people rich either. 

 I don't really have interest in temples or whatever, im not that religious.



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Lao people were "refugees".  You should understand that word.  You have "good" ENGLISH. 

 

You go by 60's ideologies and hypocrisy.  You posted all this bull**** and how you despise Thailand and then you finally admitted you go shopping in Thailand yourself.

 

You're not religious but most Lao people are interested in Buddhism to some extent and for sure are really superstitious.   I'm talking about Lao Loums here.  I don't know enough about your Lao Teung culture.

 



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Lao people were "refugees".  You should understand that word.  You have "good" ENGLISH. 

 

You go by 60's ideologies and hypocrisy.  You posted all this bull**** and how you despise Thailand and then you finally admitted you go shopping in Thailand yourself.

 

You're not religious but most Lao people are interested in Buddhism to some extent and for sure are really superstitious.   I'm talking about Lao Loums here.  I don't know enough about your Lao Teung culture.

 


I don't disrespect Buddhism, I just don't really care for any of the religions out there. I have never disrespected the temple, monk, or any ceremonies there.

Technically Nong Khai is a red shirt area and Isan is really a part of Laos so I am good. biggrin I spent an afternoon there and really there isn't much that you can buy in Nong Khai that you can't buy in Vientiane.

Ok yes by the definition of "refugee" I agree they fit the part. What you don't get is those Lao who "had" to leave Laos chose their own path. They chose to support America. Nobody would feel bad for  leftists and Pathet Lao if they lost the war. Nobody would cry if they were killed and persecuted.

That is why I question why the world should cry about Lao Americans? They caused their own pain. They picked to support America, (because bigger nation = win the war=more money) Now the bad they experience in America they want to be recognized for also. Well America is racist and they take advantage of all the non white minorities there. Anyone with half a brain would have known that.

I included the paragraph about the other villagers as well. I think their treatment might have been extreme but I ask you would America and the Royal Lao be so egalitarian to the left and Pathet Lao who lost the war? No I hardly believe it.

Leaving Laos

Large numbers of villagers were displaced from their homes during the second Indochina War (1954-1975). Many fled to escape the heavy American bombing or were forced to relocate by one side or the other in the civil war going on in Laos. By the end of the war, an estimated 25% of the population had been displaced from their homes to the cities, refugee camps in the country, or even to North Vietnam, where the bombing was less intense.

The first wave of refugees from the country began with the communist takeover in 1975. First to leave were officials of the former Royal Lao Government and the westernized elite. Many of these people had a French language education and were accepted by France or had cooperated with the U.S. and were offered asylum here

Ordinary villagers had no plans to leave, but as communist control tightened, arrests of relatively low ranking soldiers began to increase. Many farmers had enlisted to get some training and avoid the draft, as draftees were usually sent to the front. News of the harsh conditions and deaths in the "seminars," the prison camps where "re-education" was to take place, began to filter out. Farmers were pushed into cooperatives and paid according to work points, but political attitude affected work points, and, by definition, anyone affiliated with the Royal Lao Army had a bad political attitude and hence little payment in rice.

ref·u·gee

/ˌrɛfyʊˈdʒi, ˈrɛfyʊˌdʒi/ Show Spelled [ref-yoo-jee, ref-yoo-jee] Show IPA

noun
1.
a person who flees for refuge or safety, especially to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc.
2.

political refugee

noun
a person who has fled from a homeland because of political persecution.


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All this YET the professors at Souphanouvong University and many Vientiane colleges were recently in the west "asking" for aid and grants. 

Every history article you read on Laos will have it's own spin.  Most articles leave out many details that only Lao who lived in those places and had personal experiences would know about. 

Your the type of person that would deny that the Vietnamese and "others" played a big part in the Pathet Lao coming to power.  In the Lao PDR history books the Ho Chi Minh trail is barely discussed. 

Luang Prabang did not fall to the Pathet Lao.  When it was taken by their buddies.

You can deny this all you want but people who lived in Luang Prabang know who overtook LPB and it wasn't the Pathet Lao.  They didn't even speak Lao.

I'm not going to go back and forth with anyone about history.  You can go ahead and type yourself a bunch of long post.  You can do as you please and no one cares.  It's the past, many mistakes were made, and we can learn from it.  People in Laos themselves don't even care much about the era.  They youth know more about Thai actors/actresses and Korean boy bands than Lao history.

Nongkhai is still Thailand.  It is populated by people of Lao ethnicity and used to be part of Laos but not anymore.  Maybe in the future that will change but who knows.  You can dislike Thailand all you want.  Laos in modern times in culturally tied to the hip to Thailand.  They themselves made it that way.  Every Lao office, store/shop/ restaurant has the Thai TV on all day.  I'm tired of young Vientiane girls saying "kha" and "ja".  They mix Lao/Thai/English.  They can just speak straight Laos but to them it's not as cool as speaking some Thai mix.  It's a shame.  But it is what it is.

People in Laos, especially the Lao PDR leaders, don't view other places and people as you do. They love Thailand, Korea, and the west.  That's them, not me. 

 



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People leave Laos because of opportunities.  Too bad it's the already well off people get the most opportunities go abroad and study/work.  Sometimes whole Lao families leave and don't come back except to visit.



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All this YET the professors at Souphanouvong University and many Vientiane colleges were recently in the west "asking" for aid and grants. 

Every history article you read on Laos will have it's own spin.  Most articles leave out many details that only Lao who lived in those places and had personal experiences would know about. 

Your the type of person that would deny that the Vietnamese and "others" played a big part in the Pathet Lao coming to power.  In the Lao PDR history books the Ho Chi Minh trail is barely discussed. 

Luang Prabang did not fall to the Pathet Lao.  When it was taken by their buddies.

You can deny this all you want but people who lived in Luang Prabang know who overtook LPB and it wasn't the Pathet Lao.  They didn't even speak Lao.

I'm not going to go back and forth with anyone about history.  You can go ahead and type yourself a bunch of long post.  You can do as you please and no one cares.  It's the past, many mistakes were made, and we can learn from it.n Laos themselves don't even care much about the era.  They youth know more about Thai actors/actresses and Korean boy bands than Lao history.

Nongkhai is still Thailand.  It is populated by people of Lao ethnicity and used to be part of Laos but not anymore.  Maybe in the future that will change but who knows.  You can dislike Thailand all you want.  Laos in modern times in culturally tied to the hip to Thailand.  They themselves made it that way.  Every Lao office, store/shop/ restaurant has the Thai TV on all day.  I'm tired of young Vientiane girls saying "kha" and "ja".  They mix Lao/Thai/English.  They can just speak straight Laos but to them it's not as cool as speaking some Thai mix.  It's a shame.  But it is what it is.

People in Laos, especially the Lao PDR leaders, don't view other places and people as you do. They love Thailand, Korea, and the west.  That's them, not me. 

 


 Boringggg. People ran from bombed areas and America caused it. Second of all if America didn't ignore (along with South Vietnam) the national Vietnamese elections Ho Chi Minh was projected to win and unify Vietnam. So that is two strikes against Amerikkka so far, third strike was making up the gulf of tonkin accident. 

The icing on the cake was theRlg gov sitting back and allowing America to bomb its own citizens. Lol such caring leaders lets let America bomb Laos so they can somehow save Laos biggrin America caused all of Laos' problems, they continued a divided  class society and picked up right where France left off. You buy their bulls1t and their freedom rhetoric because you are basically their puppet. They didn't care about any of Laos communist or not they are just as racist and discriminatory  to their own citizens so why would they care aboiut some rice farmers 5000 miles away? 



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All this YET the professors at Souphanouvong University and many Vientiane colleges were recently in the west "asking" for aid and grants. 

Every history article you read on Laos will have it's own spin.  Most articles leave out many details that only Lao who lived in those places and had personal experiences would know about. 

Your the type of person that would deny that the Vietnamese and "others" played a big part in the Pathet Lao coming to power.  In the Lao PDR history books the Ho Chi Minh trail is barely discussed. 

Luang Prabang did not fall to the Pathet Lao.  When it was taken by their buddies.

You can deny this all you want but people who lived in Luang Prabang know who overtook LPB and it wasn't the Pathet Lao.  They didn't even speak Lao.

I'm not going to go back and forth with anyone about history.  You can go ahead and type yourself a bunch of long post.  You can do as you please and no one cares.  It's the past, many mistakes were made, and we can learn from it.  People in Laos themselves don't even care much about the era.  They youth know more about Thai actors/actresses and Korean boy bands than Lao history.

Nongkhai is still Thailand.  It is populated by people of Lao ethnicity and used to be part of Laos but not anymore.  Maybe in the future that will change but who knows.  You can dislike Thailand all you want.  Laos in modern times in culturally tied to the hip to Thailand.  They themselves made it that way.  Every Lao office, store/shop/ restaurant has the Thai TV on all day.  I'm tired of young Vientiane girls saying "kha" and "ja".  They mix Lao/Thai/English.  They can just speak straight Laos but to them it's not as cool as speaking some Thai mix.  It's a shame.  But it is what it is.

People in Laos, especially the Lao PDR leaders, don't view other places and people as you do. They love Thailand, Korea, and the west.  That's them, not me. 

 


 I DON'T Like Thailand either... Same as you on that point .

I don't deny Vietnam played a big part, but I don't bow to the Vietnamese lile most Lao norks accuse Lao PDR of doing. I mostly respect China because we uaed their weapons and training. Vietnam owes a lot to China as well but they don't like to give them respect. 

So if the Mong were the victorious ones in Laos would you be bowing to them? 



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No one has anything against Thais, like you do.  No one is as backwards as you.

There is just an over reliance on Thailand.  Both culturally and economically. 

 



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No one has anything against Thais, like you do.  No one is as backwards as you.

There is just an over reliance on Thailand.  Both culturally and economically. 

 


Dude must not have many friends and probably doesn't get a long with many people.  His views are a 180 from most Lao people and he mind still thinks Laos is still in the AiNong days. 



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A lot of Lao babies aren't even born in the Lao PDR.  They're born in Thailand.  Lao people don't trust Lao PDR doctors.  It's a dang shame.

 



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Another sad thing about Lao youth going to study abroad is the DESERVING students a lot of times don't get the grants/scholarships.  Lao gets a certain amount of grants/scholarships from other countries yearly.  A lot of times the students with the best grades/scores are not given the scholarships.  Children/grandchildren/relatives of Lao officials, who are already wealthy, get a free ride through college/university.

 



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Another sad thing about Lao youth going to study abroad is the DESERVING students a lot of times don't get the grants/scholarships.  Lao gets a certain amount of grants/scholarships from other countries yearly.  A lot of times the students with the best grades/scores are not given the scholarships.  Children/grandchildren/relatives of Lao officials, who are already wealthy, get a free ride through college/university.

 


 

disbeliefno I can care less about the self named hiso Lao people.  It's annoying hearing them speak their Lao/Thai/English mix and try to sweeten up their voices with their Thai Lakorn/Korean pop mannerisms. 

50 year old ladies doing KPOP hairstyles to weddings?  C'mon now!



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If they could choose 70% of Lao would leave Laos. 



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If they could choose 70% of Lao would leave Laos. 


 sure they would fit right in with Lao Amerkkkan wannabe thugs.biggrin It's the Lao Amerikkkan dream, join a gang and do nothing about your population only graduating highschool at a 50% rate. Oh  I forgot the other pastime of Lao Amerikkkans complain and whine about Laos yet do nothing to fix Laos or their own people's situation.

Do you old men actually do anything besides chatting up young lao girls on fb or b1tching about Lao pdr? Why don't you fix your own home before going to others and yapping? Or you could spend time with Lao Amerikkkan youth and teach them that education is important. But nah you want to lure young Lao girlsto amerikka and treat them like slaves when then arrive. 



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Those old Lao men are the minority.  Most old Lao men don't use fb etc as don't many old men of any ethnicity.

Lao Noks are coming back whether you like it or not.  You can stay indoors and have your maid bring you your food in your room.



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It doesn't matter what the dodo says.  Most Lao want to leave given the chance.  That's why all those young girls are working in Pattaya, Phuket and the red light districts of BKK to find themselves a farang husband. 



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It doesn't matter what the dodo says.  Most Lao want to leave given the chance.  That's why all those young girls are working in Pattaya, Phuket and the red light districts of BKK to find themselves a farang husband. 


 

Some are content with just  living in Thailand.  A lot of Lao girls have been marrying Thai men in the past 10 years.



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A lot of Lao singers go sing overseas and never return home as well. 

I can probably count 10 off the top of my head.

The Vietnamese Lao singer TingNoi is touring overseas right now.  Her husband(also a singer) toured before her and they got into an argument about her going overseas LOL.  She's been sleeping around a lot too.  She got a new boob job in BKK before she went on tour.



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