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Siem Reap, Cambodia (dpa) - After facing the wrath of environmental groups earlier this week, the Mekong River Commission (MRC) member countries engaged in their own battles Thursday during a meeting of the four-member body with donors and observers.

 

Although the meetings were closed to media, Cambodian delegates made their frustration with what they called neighbouring Laos' lack of transparency clear outside as tensions over six proposed hydro- electric dams in a number of countries on the lower Mekong mounted.

 

Scientists said in May they feared Laos' proposed dams in particular could destroy fish migration and spawning, decimating the catch people in MRC member countries Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and Vietnam rely on and causing irreversible environmental damage.

 

"We sent an official letter to Laos months ago to voice our concern and ask for an explanation, but so far we have received no answer," vice chairman of the Cambodian National Mekong Committee, Sin Niny, told Deutche Presse-Agentur dpa.

 

Cambodian MRC representative Lim Kean Hor said the MRC was a complicated organization which relied on cooperation from members and donors - which include energy-hungry China - to reach consensus. However, that cooperation may be fraying in some areas, he added.

 

"At the moment this is just an initiative by Laos. When they begin to build them we will stop them," he said, saying the MRC needed independent expert studies of environmental impact assessments.

 

The six dams across the Lower Mekong River are currently in the planning stages, more than a decade after they were dismissed as too costly and environmentally damaging, non-government organizations said in a press conference in Bangkok earlier this week.

 

At least one is believed to be the project of a powerful Lao politician's son, raising questions about whether the environment is taking a backseat to money, one environmentalist said on condition of anonymity, adding now was the time for the MRC to stand up.

 

"Since early 2006, Thai, Malaysian and Chinese companies have been granted permission to conduct feasibility studies for six large hydropower dams on the lower Mekong mainstream," they said in a press statement.

 

China delegate Biao Ling Sheng, however, urged a balance of development and conservation Thursday as that country announced continued strong funding for the MRC. "We need sustainable conservational development," he said.

 

In the end, however, the onus remained on the MRC to prove its role as a strong, independent forum for member countries and other interested parties to raise concerns which was transparent and had teeth, World Conservation Union representative Kate Lazarus said.

 

"The role of local communities should be given a higher priority by the MRC. There is some important information which is not being made public by the MRC," the Laos-based representative said.

source: www.bangkokpost.com



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Money from all those dam is good but having good neighbor is better. Laos not, I repeat not need to build these dam. It is not only bad for Laos environment and people but Cambodian too. More reason not to build it.

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Money from all those dam is good but having good neighbor is better. Laos not, I repeat not need to build these dam. It is not only bad for Laos environment and people but Cambodian too. More reason not to build it.



Exactly and if the government allows this I think a lot of people would totally lose faith, if there was any, for the government.



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i hope no one will be crazy enough to accept such projects!

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Yeah! Yeah ! Laos will be once again another battlefield for profit of foreign investers...for lao people...nothing ! but I see that the level of mekong river begin to be lower than ten years ago...and if we do nothing to keep stable level of the mekong, be sure that in ten years to come we will have problem with water shortage, even now in some area such as that luang, nongbone ect... it pressure is not high enough to reach theses area in the day time...I use water from well...

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China delegate Biao Ling Sheng, however, urged a balance of development and conservation Thursday as that country announced continued strong funding for the MRC. "We need sustainable conservational development," he said.


Oh! I see. Chinese people are always for Lao people a good friend or friend in needed. I really appreciate that.



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It would be stupid if stop such projects. But yes, it would be clever if can do in such a way that the projects would not effect to the environment and life of Lao people as a whole.

I believe that would be able to manage since all the projects are in the small rivers, but not in Mekong river. On top of that, they are all in Lao land, but not in the border between Lao and Cambodia or Thailand.

Listening to NGO opinion is good thing, but it doesn't mean that Lao government should follow. President Bush also does not follow even the American people will or American experts when it comes to benefit of country, say war in Iraq.    

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China delegate Biao Ling Sheng, however, urged a balance of development and conservation Thursday as that country announced continued strong funding for the MRC. "We need sustainable conservational development," he said.


Oh! I see. Chinese people are always for Lao people a good friend or friend in needed. I really appreciate that.



Appreciate????

Mekhong has already been drained by Chinese dams and threatened the livelihoods of 20 million people.  Chinese built their dams without cosulting countries downriver because benefits are far outweigh adverse effects!!!

They pretend to be good neighor after they got all benefits they needed.


MUST READ:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/01/wmeko01.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/01/ixworld.html

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China delegate Biao Ling Sheng, however, urged a balance of development and conservation Thursday as that country announced continued strong funding for the MRC. "We need sustainable conservational development," he said.


Oh! I see. Chinese people are always for Lao people a good friend or friend in needed. I really appreciate that.



Appreciate????

Mekhong has already been drained by Chinese dams and threatened the livelihoods of 20 million people.  Chinese built their dams without cosulting countries downriver because benefits are far outweigh adverse effects!!!

They pretend to be good neighor after they got all benefits they needed.


MUST READ:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/01/wmeko01.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/01/ixworld.html

It is really outdated news printed in 2004, which was edited by someone whose aim to discret Chinese government.

Fish in Cambodia would have nothing to do with the dams located in China. It seemed me ridiculous. The distance between them is more than 1000 KM.

In fact, I heard that Cambodian authorities even put electricity net to prevent all fish coming to Laos along the Mekong. It happened after 1975. That is why now Lao people have to feed fish along Mekong River.
  



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That is really stupid,. how can Cambodian authorities prevent all fish coming to Laos along the Mekong????? you guy dont know where is water flow from??? you are so stupid to believe such thing!!! learn more Lao

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That is really stupid,. how can Cambodian authorities prevent all fish coming to Laos along the Mekong????? you guy dont know where is water flow from??? you are so stupid to believe such thing!!! learn more Lao



What do you mean? You mean fish should follow the water flow?
Actually, it's not like that. Normally, fish movement is according to session. From Febuary to May fish will move to North, but from October to December fish will move to South. That is reality. Believe me I am the person who lives with Mekong river.

Yes, I also heard from Lao people who live near Lao-Cambodia boder (after Khon Pha Pheng water fall). In Cambodian language it might be called other name.

How you can deny when you don't know the reality? Don't be too rude! Your language reflects to your education or you are really low educated person? 




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Ok guys, to evaluate the ecological effects cause by dam construction, it will take not only 2 days or 2 months, but many years! The effect is hardly seen by our naked eyes. This is something like global warming. If you put frog into very hot water, ofcourse it will jump out immediately because it has its own nervous system to protect itself. However, if you put frog in normal temperature of water and then gradually increase the temperature, the flog will just stay there and no reaction, it will feel uncomfortable, sick and finally die in its own place. idea

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Yes, you are right.
However, we would be called stupid people if we choose "nothing gains and nothing looses".

It would be wise if we can gain a lot, but loose a bit. At the same time we also need to fix the bad side. Like we cut trees, at the same time we have to plant the new trees. Then we will get beatiful houses and green forest as well.


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Hey hey... you are drunk, this is not a topic of fried frog.

Go here http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=98894&p=3&topicID=14271547

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I several years ago heard from fishermen in the south that the khmers had put a steeel net accoss the mekong to stop fish to migrant to laos, so nowaday, our contry have no more great hord of fish like the former time... true or not, I`m not sure ! but it is sure that the population of fish is decreasing !

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