Is this True?

Date: Apr 8, 2008

Is this True?

Date: Apr 8, 2008

Yeah, I think so.

SeeHarHed · Guru

wow!!! if this is true... than i feel sad for all those people that lived in those villages.. how many generation through generation lived there and soon will be gone.. if you really sit back and ask the question... is it really worth all the troubles and problems for all the people.. by being a host to ASEAN game in 09.. is it worth it??? there's pro and con to it... but, over all.. i dont know!!

Lan_Xang · Guru

SeeHarHed wrote:

wow!!! if this is true... than i feel sad for all those people that lived in those villages.. how many generation through generation lived there and soon will be gone.. if you really sit back and ask the question... is it really worth all the troubles and problems for all the people.. by being a host to ASEAN game in 09.. is it worth it??? there's pro and con to it... but, over all.. i dont know!!

Members of poliburo (LPRP) and some members of Samakomlao tend to think it is worth it.

Progress, advancement, and national wealth outweight the live of the few. Sacrifice has to be made by some people. That just the way it is.

But I would not want to be the one to inform those poeple to get out of their house. cry

Date: Apr 8, 2008

I think it is worth it, why not? It will force generations and people to realize land is land, there is no emotional attachment towards it, only towards the "country", whatever the boundries must be.

~Zak

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

I think it is worth it, why not? It will force generations and people to realize land is land, there is no emotional attachment towards it, only towards the "country", whatever the boundries must be.

~Zak

The Lao Government are doing a great job and heading towards the right direction. In order to modernize the country, we must make some sacrifices. Modernizing a nation is like body building. You can sit on your ass all day and stay comfortable or you can go to the gym and work your ass off and have a nice and healthy body. Well, that is one way of looking at it.

SeeHarHed · Guru

laopeoplesarmy wrote:

The Lao Government are doing a great job and heading towards the right direction. In order to modernize the country, we must make some sacrifices. Modernizing a nation is like body building. You can sit on your ass all day and stay comfortable or you can go to the gym and work your ass off and have a nice and healthy body. Well, that is one way of looking at it.

there are so many other ways to modernize the city.... building big stadium isn't the solution.. i've always been saying from day one... ever since i started to post in this site... what LAO really needs right now!!! NOW.. 1. Storm Water/Sewage Treatment Plants 2. Underground storm drain systems (no more those ditches around town that smell so bad) and 3. Cleaner water.. without these 3 things.... i dont know how big of the stadium you built, you will have problems... simple logic ok.... if you take a dump at the stadium..where do you think it will go????? take it to the MeKong River and dump it down the river??? or just dig a big pond next to the stadium for all the raw sewage to store there???

Dont get me wrong... I am happy to see that Laos will be hosting ASEAN game in 2009. I'll definately be back for that event!!

enough of my two cents!!

Date: Apr 9, 2008

SeeHarHed wrote:

Wow!!! if this is true, then i feel sad for all those people that lived in those villages. Is it really worth all the troubles and problems for all the people by the fact that Lao government want to be a host to ASEAN game in 09, Is it worth it?

Yes, I also feel sad for people affected, although they would definitely get a compensation for their belonging. Some of them may have lived since long time. They may miss their lands and houses and so on.

However, if we look back through our history, we would know that nearly all Lao people had sacrificed their lives for our country, say wars for our country independent.

Lots Lao people were killed, some even lost their beloved people: husbands, wives and kids. They fight for our country under one slogan: “Better Die than Be Slave". The aim of what they had sacrificed was only one answer: our country's prosperity.

Now that, we want to build our economy being prosper which is the goal of our ancestors. Yes, our country is really poor. But we want to develop it so that our kids would probably enjoy the better life.

As people always say:” There is no free lunch, indeed". You can gain something, you will also loose another thing. Probably, Lao government is aware of this project's consequences quite well, but has to choose this option.

Having considered all bad and good impacts, there probably would be good more than harm. From this project, no doubt, the investors will be increased, jobs opportunities would be more available and tourists will come to Laos more and more.

So, I do hope that these affected people would eventually realize and be proud of the fact that they have done a great job for our prosperity of our nation, which pronounces with one word "LAO".

Regards,
TSP

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:

there are so many other ways to modernize the city.... building big stadium isn't the solution.. i've always been saying from day one... ever since i started to post in this site... what LAO really needs right now!!! NOW.. 1. Storm Water/Sewage Treatment Plants 2. Underground storm drain systems (no more those ditches around town that smell so bad) and 3. Cleaner water.. without these 3 things.... i dont know how big of the stadium you built, you will have problems... simple logic ok.... if you take a dump at the stadium..where do you think it will go?????

You're jumping the gun there, Nga Ai! ( chuckles) Relax and enjoy the show. Why do you think the Lao Government are hosting the SEA Game for? The SEA Game will generate needed revenue to finance all of those things that you mentioned. The SEA Game will stimulate all sectors of the Lao Economy. Most notably is the Lao tourism related industries will certainly benefit the most from the SEA Game and follow by the Construction and Banking sectors.

The Stadiums will stay and incorporated into the city's many landmarks. It'll become a home to the next generation of Lao Athletes.

Date: Apr 9, 2008

I think it is worth it, why not? It will force generations and people to realize land is land, there is no emotional attachment towards it, only towards the "country", whatever the boundries must be.

~Zak

Yes, unlest is yours land?

Zak · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

I think it is worth it, why not? It will force generations and people to realize land is land, there is no emotional attachment towards it, only towards the "country", whatever the boundries must be.

~Zak

Yes, unlest is yours land?

Wait what?

Date: Apr 9, 2008

There will be another revolution in the near future. This time it will be agianst the communist regime. Revolution starts with the discontant of the middle class, than they will incite the poor and the farmers. Thats how the communist regime came into power. Less they forget.

Dont treat the poor people like animals. Animal can and will fight back. Its just need enought push.

Date: Apr 9, 2008

If they start to push poor people around, there will be consiquences. The ideal of the communist and socialist are the people first. Its seem like, its business first in Laos and in China.

Mark my words, there will be another revolution. Poor people we must fights for our rights. Its the blood of the poor people for generations that are spill on the land of Laos. The land is all that we have.

SeeHarHed · Guru

well... i would hate to see that happening.. i hope both side can come up with some sort of solutions that both parties can be happy with. we really dont need to be having a revolution to solve this problem... unite not fighting among each other..

Date: Apr 10, 2008

Sacrified to modernize the country, even begging, and spreading your leggs for it such give up large piece of land like Bung That Laung to the Chinese for the next 50 plus years and have the have several hundred thousand of Chinese move in? You're a pathetic whore if that is a woman! Education should be the priority for Laos, not hosting SEA Game for buddha sake. Education is only way for Laos to catch up with the rest of the world. This is 2008, and Laos schools condition haven't improved through out the country. Many schools are still like bamboo hut, every single school in the country oughta have adequate facilities like rest room, library, and at least fan in every room since it is so hot nowaday in Laos. Thanks to LaoPeopleArmy that let its thugs cut down the tress, and contaminated the some part of the country where gold mine are taking place. You can't wait to have other people come and help you all the time, you have to make do with what you got and concentrate on area that would benefit to Laos as a whole.

Date: Apr 10, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

If they start to push poor people around, there will be consiquences. The ideal of the communist and socialist are the people first. Its seem like, its business first in Laos and in China.

Mark my words, there will be another revolution. Poor people we must fights for our rights. Its the blood of the poor people for generations that are spill on the land of Laos. The land is all that we have.

Yes, no doubt this is a main purpose of the person posted this topic. Unfortunately, no one in Laos would care with such stupid comment. Now is 21 century, but he is still stupid shouting for another war. Probably, he would it if there is a war in Laos like in Iraq.

Let he and his father wait until their next life.

Date: Apr 10, 2008

SeeHarHed wrote:

well... i would hate to see that happening.. i hope both side can come up with some sort of solutions that both parties can be happy with. we really dont need to be having a revolution to solve this problem... unite not fighting among each other..

Where is another side, I don't know what you are talking. We always unite under our leaders as a solid diamond which no body can break forever.

Date: Apr 10, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Education is only way for Laos to catch up with the rest of the world.

Every one knows about this, even you do not tell us. Probably, you are still too young to understand the elementary things.

To begin with, where is your fund to improve education if you do not do business? You the fund would drop from the sky?

Nobody would die from this project, just relocate to new place.

Why don't you shout to Bush, don't go to Iraq? You know how many have American soldiers died from Iraq war alone so far? More than 4000.

Lan_Xang · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

If they start to push poor people around, there will be consiquences. The ideal of the communist and socialist are the people first. Its seem like, its business first in Laos and in China.

Mark my words, there will be another revolution. Poor people we must fights for our rights. Its the blood of the poor people for generations that are spill on the land of Laos. The land is all that we have.

Laos PDR have been moving from Marxist ideology since 1991 when the new Constitution was adopted. It is more like Authoritarian now. The main focus now nationalism and open market-oriented economy. National Assembly can review policy but the real people that run the country are:

Lt General Choummaly Sayasone
Lt General Samane Viyaketh
Mr Thongsing Thammavong
Colonel Bounnhang Vorachit
General Sisavath Keobounphanh
Major General Asang Laoly
Mr Bouasone Bouphavanh
Dr Thongloun Sisoulith
Major General Douangchay Phichith
Mr Somsavat Lengsavad
Mrs Pany Yatho

-- Edited by Lan_Xang at 02:49, 2008-04-10

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

SeeHarHed wrote:

well... i would hate to see that happening.. i hope both side can come up with some sort of solutions that both parties can be happy with. we really dont need to be having a revolution to solve this problem... unite not fighting among each other..

Where is another side, I don't know what you are talking. We always unite under our leaders as a solid diamond which no body can break forever.

well... go back and re-read what they been talking about in here... i really dont have time to explain everything. last time i check!! i'm not a teacher of pre-school.. biggrin

Date: Apr 10, 2008

SeeHarHed wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SeeHarHed wrote:

well... i would hate to see that happening.. i hope both side can come up with some sort of solutions that both parties can be happy with. we really dont need to be having a revolution to solve this problem... unite not fighting among each other..

Where is another side, I don't know what you are talking. We always unite under our leaders as a solid diamond which no body can break forever.

well... go back and re-read what they been talking about in here... i really dont have time to explain everything. last time i check!! i'm not a teacher of pre-school..

You seem to be a stupid man. You even believe even the rubbish comment. Yes, probably you would believe what people tell you a lie. Please use your brain.

Zak · Senior Member

Its ironic isn't it? The very thing that the Communists fought for was to get away from foreign occupiers and independence. It was a fight for the little man, the farmers. But look at how it is now.

The government should remain open and flexible. Darwin always said that it isn't the strongest that survive. No, it is those who adapt to change that live.

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
You seem to be a stupid man. You even believe even the rubbish comment. Yes, probably you would believe what people tell you a lie. Please use your brain.

me???? stupid??? if i were i wouldn't be calling anyone stupid.. look at yourself in the mirror son.. look at the way you type.. your sentence structure... NOW?? who's more stupider??? i highly suggest you enroll in some english class okay.... re-read what you type!!! "You even believe even the rubbish comment"??? what kind of sentence is this son??? god damnnnn.. now who sounds more stupid??

ok now..that's enough of rubbish talks.. i've been a member her for awhile and i've think all my past comments are always positive.. i'm LAO and i like to see good things happen in LAOS... you've crossed the line... to go around calling people stupid!! stop hidding yourself under Anonymous.. get yourself an SN..

Date: Apr 10, 2008

SeeHarHed wrote:

NOW?? who's more stupider??? god damnnnn.. now who sounds more stupid??

stop hidding yourself under Anonymous.. get yourself an SN..

FYI: There is no word like stupider in English dictionary. So far I haven't far. On top of that, you cannot use more stupid in this case, since the stupid is noun, unless you want to tell us that the number of stupid men has increased. For example, more stupid people have started critized Lao government.

Yes, I must say last time your comments were constructive, but this time you seemed to act like Bush who urged Chinese government talk with Dalai Lama.
That's why I did agreed with the person who critized you.

Probably, he did not sign for SN because he is a Lao spy.

SeeHarHed · Guru

stop hidding behind Anonymous name... if you going to start barking, let the people know who you are. you're just like them Viet Cong... hit and run!!!

i sound like Bush??? where the hell did you get this from??? stay within the topic...

Date: Apr 10, 2008

I realize your all having fun discussing semantics but I really don't think it's that important that he/she used the word stupider, I understood.

Stricltly in my opinion, the stadium / Tat Luang marsh trade off is a prime example of capitalism run amuck. Everything is for sale to the highest bidder and there is no government oversight. I realize full well that the Govt had to approve the deal but I believe it more than likely individuals within the government working on their own behalf, and probably for their own self serving interests. No one could be so blind as to believe that it was a good trade.

Date: Apr 11, 2008

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There will be another revolution in the near future. This time it will be agianst the communist regime. Revolution starts with the discontant of the middle class, than they will incite the poor and the farmers. Thats how the communist regime came into power. Less they forget.

Dont treat the poor people like animals. Animal can and will fight back. Its just need enought push.
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If they start to push poor people around, there will be consiquences. The ideal of the communist and socialist are the people first. Its seem like, its business first in Laos and in China.

Mark my words, there will be another revolution. Poor people we must fights for our rights. Its the blood of the poor people for generations that are spill on the land of Laos. The land is all that we have.

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Revolution of ONE-SELF ! ! !

Revolution of FEAR of no one BUT fear inside YOURSELF ! ! !

Revolution of one who is a child's mind but body is adult ! ! !

Revolution of one who use the CAP letter as the name as the HELL ! ! !

Revolution of one who should go back to re-communicate properly and re-educate how to spell the right words :

   discontent = not discontant

   enough = not enought

   It's or It is = not Its

   consequences = not consiquences

    Its just need enought push <= what is it?    You tried to say " It is enough push " or " It has enough push "

    Its the blood of the poor people for... = It's or It isthe blood of the poor...

    Never a sentence's structure like this in English ! !

MOVE ON..PROSPECT TO EVERYONE WILL FOLLOW ! ! !

This Lao Government is better than previous Government who had too much corruptions. They pushed out foreigners and they now are trying to re-unite and let Lao people everywhere to come to invest, re-build and re-construct the mother-land. Moreover, they are trying to IMPROVE Lao's images to the world that they are building the lifes of Lao people..just like that <= correct me if I'm wrong ! !

In the PAST, only the rich people and one who have the power and connections to government had a chance to go out to study abroad. I remembered, when I was in Junior High, one of Tutor who is excellent in his academic studies. He was graduated 2nd place from Lycee of Vientiane. He did not have apportunities to study abroad because his parent is the poor Farmer.

Now, you see everyone who is whether rich or poor and who is good academic studies can have support from the government and be eligible and qualify to study abroad. And they will return to their home-land to rebuild their mother-land after they finished thier studies ! ! !

Date: Apr 12, 2008

i'm a poor uneducated Laotion. I cant spell, and my family is very poor. I used the computer in Library.

We lived in a ghetto in Boston. I shared my bedroom with my brothers and sister. I try my best mister.

Thank you for making fun of me. Someday, when i can go school. I will make fun of you too.