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[video=http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=wrr4-HuVdF8]

Illegal logging by Lao military, but the benefit for the local community

what do you think?

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the video is no longer available!!!!!  find another link for us to see please..

kob jai

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I think the Webmaster blocks it. 

Anything negative,or against Lao Gov.will be blocked or deleted ASAP in this Webboard.



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Anonymous wrote:

I think the Webmaster blocks it. 

Anything negative,or against Lao Gov.will be blocked or deleted ASAP in this Webboard.




You think too much, buddy! If you care to look around there are abundance of Anti Lao Government rhetoric. There are some good and valid criticism but most are a bunch of bull****!



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well..if you can not watch, double click the screen to go direct to youtube site or visit the following link

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=wrr4-HuVdF8


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Ask General Cheng Sayavong about logging in Laos to sell the timbers to Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and even China. He knows who benefit from cutting Lao timbers and who pays for the deforestation in Laos.

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Ask General Cheng Sayavong about logging in Laos to sell the timbers to Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and even China. He knows who benefit from cutting Lao timbers and who pays for the deforestation in Laos.




"The wind cannot shake a mountain. Neither praise nor blame moves a wise man."

- Buddha

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."


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So basically if you parents told you that you are their son, you where born in so and so date, and at so and so place, you will not believe them?

And only way for you to except that as fact is for you to  take a time machine to the exact date, time, and place you were born?

Pictures and document is not enough proof for you?



laopeoplesarmy wrote:


 

Anonymous wrote:

Ask General Cheng Sayavong about logging in Laos to sell the timbers to Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and even China. He knows who benefit from cutting Lao timbers and who pays for the deforestation in Laos.




"The wind cannot shake a mountain. Neither praise nor blame moves a wise man."

- Buddha

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

 




 



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Lanxang,


Please  read the quote again and again. Especially the last sentence. It is in plain English!








Lan_Xang wrote:


So basically if you parents told you that you are their son, you where born in so and so date, and at so and so place, you will not believe them?

And only way for you to except that as fact is for you to  take a time machine to the exact date, time, and place you were born?

Pictures and document is not enough proof for you?



laopeoplesarmy wrote:


"The wind cannot shake a mountain. Neither praise nor blame moves a wise man."

- Buddha

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."








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Laopeople army is brainwash and become brainless, because people who work in the government will do any thing to protect their positon and interest. They ignore that our government is stongly influency by vietnamese. Just go to seacrch in google, lao communist party was set up by Vietnamese comunist pary, and there has been no change untill now. The world know it ( educated people). That is why we can not prosper like our neighboring contries.

As evident, we can see alot of super rich people in Vientiene, and most of them are vietnamese decendent.

So what should lao people do?

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Thatluang wrote:

Laopeople army is brainwash and become brainless, because people who work in the government will do any thing to protect their positon and interest. They ignore that our government is stongly influency by vietnamese. Just go to seacrch in google, lao communist party was set up by Vietnamese comunist pary, and there has been no change untill now. The world know it ( educated people). That is why we can not prosper like our neighboring contries.

As evident, we can see alot of super rich people in Vientiene, and most of them are vietnamese decendent.

So what should lao people do?



Its sound likes your jealous on vientanmese people, what about chinese people arent you? they are rich people as well as some of laos people. hahahahaha
dont get me wrong!


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LOL

Thatluang, very weak of you to called me name when you have no fact  to debate about. You're statements are full of xenophobic sentiment and wild speculation. You have no idea about the current situation in Laos.

I dare you to cite me the sources of your claim that rich people in Vientiane are mostly Vietnamese descendant.





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Laopeople army is brainwash and become brainless, because people who work in the government will do any thing to protect their positon and interest. They ignore that our government is stongly influency by vietnamese. Just go to seacrch in google, lao communist party was set up by Vietnamese comunist pary, and there has been no change untill now. The world know it ( educated people). That is why we can not prosper like our neighboring contries.

As evident, we can see
So what should lao people do?







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laopeoplesarmy wrote:

 


Lanxang,


Please read the quote again and again. Especially the last sentence. It is in plain English!


 




 Oh, I understand you. I understand that after you take the time machine back to witness your own birth and then you will accept the birth citificate as real.



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LOL

How long have you been in the US, again?




LPA












Lan-Xang wrote:


laopeoplesarmy wrote:


Lanxang,


Please read the quote again and again. Especially the last sentence. It is in plain English!






 Oh, I understand you. I understand that after you take the time machine back to witness your own birth and then you will accept the birth citificate as real.







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Know more Mr cheng sayavong,

Cheng sayavong was born in 1936 and grew up in savanakhet his distingquished military career had spanned more than four decades, reaching back to the early days of revolutionary struggle in 1957 and 1958, he had participated in paratrooper training at the military academy at Pau france, his involvement in the revolutionary movement had begun soon after he returned home 1960, he fought against the american alongside with khamtay siphandone
after the communist victory in 1975, cheng rose to the rank of colonel and was sent to the soviet union to attend military school, 1985 back in laos, cheng achieved the rank of general.
1985 that the government put the army in charge of developing some of the country's most inaccessible areas, General cheng w as appointed president of the military-owned phattanakhet Phoudoy company that operated in central laos, thus was the city of Lak sao

cheng had made a bundle of money from the development of lak sao, between 1984 and 94s, phoudoy earned 105 million dollars worth of timber.
in 1997 he was transferred to a new job, a chairman of the NTA

Anyone know more about Mr cheng, please .....

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khonthakek wrote:


cheng had made a bundle of money from the development of lak sao, between 1984 and 94s, phoudoy earned 105 million dollars worth of timber.
in 1997 he was transferred to a new job, a chairman of the NTA

Anyone know more about Mr cheng, please .....



I remember I came across a Chinese man that said he hated Revolutionaries, because he said that they end up doing the same as the old government.

If it wasn't the Royals earning money from the people, its the Communists. Its a circle, really.

Democracy, no monarchy, no socialism, no communism, just plain democracy please, that's all the people need.

I rather have rich sons of bitches that worked for it than rich kids from the government or a "royal family".

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khonthakek wrote:

Know more Mr cheng sayavong,

Cheng sayavong was born in 1936 and grew up in savanakhet his distingquished military career had spanned more than four decades, reaching back to the early days of revolutionary struggle in 1957 and 1958, he had participated in paratrooper training at the military academy at Pau france, his involvement in the revolutionary movement had begun soon after he returned home 1960, he fought against the american alongside with khamtay siphandone
after the communist victory in 1975, cheng rose to the rank of colonel and was sent to the soviet union to attend military school, 1985 back in laos, cheng achieved the rank of general.
1985 that the government put the army in charge of developing some of the country's most inaccessible areas, General cheng w as appointed president of the military-owned phattanakhet Phoudoy company that operated in central laos, thus was the city of Lak sao

cheng had made a bundle of money from the development of lak sao, between 1984 and 94s, phoudoy earned 105 million dollars worth of timber.
in 1997 he was transferred to a new job, a chairman of the NTA

Anyone know more about Mr cheng, please .....




Strange how these people were educated in France and later became Communist.



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Is General Cheng still  in charge of BPKP right now ?

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Lan_Xang wrote:

 

Strange how these people were educated in France and later became Communist.

 



How is that strange? France was a hotspot I believe back then. The first International Commie blah blah w/e was taken place there, where Ho Chi Minh was a dish washer at the time.

 



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France is close to be a communist country, didn't you know that?

I'm talking about economy policy, of course, not government system.

-- Edited by paris_vientiane at 09:30, 2008-08-24

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Thatluang

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And we know that there were about 70 thousands of vietnanmese troop in our countriy in the 80s. Why? who can explain this?



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Thatluang wrote:

And we know that there were about 70 thousands of vietnanmese troop in our countriy in the 80s. Why? who can explain this?




Yes, Thatluang, the fraternal Vietnamese People's Army and other friendly people around the world were invited to attend the Imperialists and the traitors' departuring Baci ceremony. People from all over the world came to bid their farewell and wishes them a happy journey!


Your friendly Lao People's Army! =)



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LOL LOL, fraternal people send troop to others countries like US in Iraq and Russia in Afganistan. After pressure from UN those fraternal people withdraw their troops.

Well this is very clear to every boy in this forum.

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Well you are right Thatluang. It is clear to me and every one that LPA is Brainess and willing to do every thing even to eat vietnamese **** to protect his interest or maybe he is Vietnamese lao.



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RE: Illegal logging by Lao military

LOL LOL, fraternal people send troop to others countries like US in Iraq and Russia in Afganistan. After pressure from UN those fraternal people withdraw their troops.

Well this is very clear to every boy in this forum.




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Thatluang wrote:

LOL LOL, fraternal people send troop to others countries like US in Iraq and Russia in Afganistan. After pressure from UN those fraternal people withdraw their troops.

Well this is very clear to every boy in this forum.




Your point is?



Your friendly LPA.



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LOL 
Seems like the Lao Diaspora community are full of genius and yet the Lao American community are lacking behind other Asian American in every fields.


Your friendly LPA.





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Well you are right Thatluang. It is clear to me and every one that LPA is Brainess and willing to do every thing even to eat vietnamese **** to protect his interest or maybe he is Vietnamese lao.



Thatluang
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RE: Illegal logging by Lao military

LOL LOL, fraternal people send troop to others countries like US in Iraq and Russia in Afganistan. After pressure from UN those fraternal people withdraw their troops.

Well this is very clear to every boy in this forum.






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The fake reason of the Communist pathetlao fought over 30 years, due to they wanted to fight the corrupted government, the king in the old regime, and as a matter of fact, they are the supper king of the corruption themself. selling the national resources what else can your do?
When first time you came in the cities, the reason you took aways houses from people, you said, your guy stold the lumbers from from people to built houses without the permissons, you commited a serious crime.
I am still remember all when you took our houses.

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Thatluang

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Lao get billion dollars in revenue each year, but even a small development Lao government need a donation, what the hell?

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Rubbish !!!

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See? our top official go to get brainwash from their master again. I think LPA will be there as well.


Training course for Lao Party officials opens

A training course on political theory for officials of the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party opened at the Ho Chi Minh National Politics and Administration Academy in Hanoi on August 18.

Hanoi (VNA) – Speaking at the opening ceremony, deputy director of the national academy, Dr Vu Dinh Hoe, said that the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party consider personnel training a key factor in the past struggles for national independence as well as in the current process of both countries’ industrialisation and modernisation.

During the five-month course, which is held within the cooperation agreement between two countries, 20 Lao Party officials will study the key contents of Maxism-Leninism and Ho Chi Minh’s Thoughts on national independence and socialism.

They will also be updated on current major trends in the world and the Communist Party of Vietnam’s experiences in national renewal cause.
http://www.mofa.gov.vn/en/nr040807104143/nr040807105039/ns080819083942



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LOL
Why would you even care what we do with our time? Even the Americans have long move on with their lives and come to term with their losses in Indochina. Apparently you and your fellow Patikans are still bitter about a defeat that you suffered three decades ago. Get over it and enjoy your permanent vacation in the West while you can. You guys deserve it!

Your friendly Lao People's Army.







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See? our top official go to get brainwash from their master again. I think LPA will be there as well.

Training course for Lao Party officials opens

A training course on political theory for officials of the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party opened at the Ho Chi Minh National Politics and Administration Academy in Hanoi on August 18.

Hanoi (VNA) – Speaking at the opening ceremony, deputy director of the national academy, Dr Vu Dinh Hoe, said that the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party consider personnel training a key factor in the past struggles for national independence as well as in the current process of both countries’ industrialisation and modernisation.

During the five-month course, which is held within the cooperation agreement between two countries, 20 Lao Party officials will study the key contents of Maxism-Leninism and Ho Chi Minh’s Thoughts on national independence and socialism.

They will also be updated on current major trends in the world and the Communist Party of Vietnam’s experiences in national renewal cause.
http://www.mofa.gov.vn/en/nr040807104143/nr040807105039/ns080819083942







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Thatluang wrote:

Lao get billion dollars in revenue each year, but even a small development Lao government need a donation, what the hell?




Why would it matter to you what Laos do with its revenue and donation? You're a nobody as Laos is concern. So move along! =)


Your friendly Lao People's Army.



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See? our top official go to get brainwash from their master again. I think LPA will be there as well.

Training course for Lao Party officials opens

A training course on political theory for officials of the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party opened at the Ho Chi Minh National Politics and Administration Academy in Hanoi on August 18.

Hanoi (VNA) – Speaking at the opening ceremony, deputy director of the national academy, Dr Vu Dinh Hoe, said that the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party consider personnel training a key factor in the past struggles for national independence as well as in the current process of both countries’ industrialisation and modernisation.

During the five-month course, which is held within the cooperation agreement between two countries, 20 Lao Party officials will study the key contents of Maxism-Leninism and Ho Chi Minh’s Thoughts on national independence and socialism.

They will also be updated on current major trends in the world and the Communist Party of Vietnam’s experiences in national renewal cause.
http://www.mofa.gov.vn/en/nr040807104143/nr040807105039/ns080819083942



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That is a pretty discouraging-news indeed; if given the choice for closer relations, Laos should dumb the Viet Ho whom I despise so much and embrace the emerging Superpower China of course. Unless, Laos is playing both cards to gain more out of it, then Laos is pursuing the right strategy. I am very well aware of the numbers of Viet deaths during the war. Though the total lost for Americans was merely 57,000, and that was considered a lot for our sacrifices, but the staggering number of the Viet deaths was over 1 million, millions more were maimed so it does not take a brain of rocket scientist to understand who won or who lost in the battle. Not to mention that the war was fought in their very own country. We might have lost a political war, but we never lost the battle and we had inflicted maximum damage, casualties on their side. The Marxism-Leninism had made the Soviets too poor and economically collapsed at the end. The Skinny Ho did not live to see Capitalism is the only practical-economic-method with no doubt, guarantees the success and the well-being of people in which his Vietnam has learned it at last.  Deng Xiaoping did not hesitate to antiquate Marxism-Leninism just right after Mao Ze Dong died because he had known without the practice of Western-style economy, China would remain as a third world forever and his people would still be paddling bicycles all over streets of Beijing.



-- Edited by BruceLao at 07:44, 2008-08-26

-- Edited by BruceLao at 08:09, 2008-08-26

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Thatluang wrote:

And we know that there were about 70 thousands of vietnanmese troop in our countriy in the 80s. Why? who can explain this?



tens of thousands of north vietnamese move into northern laos as permanent colonizers, did you know? 50,000 north vietnamese soldiers remain scattered throughtout the country in the end of 1979s

Ask the Pathet Lao why? because they wanted to kick Meo, Royal Lao and American ass



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Thatluang

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What? Lao is not only belong to you, I am also from Lao. I cant stand to see Lao in this situation. Fooled by people like you

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Laos belong to those that held Lao citizenship. If you do not hold Lao citizenship then you're a foreigner.


Regards,

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What? Lao is not only belong to you, I am also from Lao. I cant stand to see Lao in this situation. Fooled by people like you







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when I see LPA's coments i always LOL LOL LOL

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lao government sucks

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maribelle1226 wrote:

lao government sucks




which country's gov doesn't suck? i think they're all suck.



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Well they are all suck, but at what level? u have to compare it. So just go to see my new comparison that i will post in another topic in the next few minutes.

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