If I may address my concern with the mod.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

If I may address my concern with the mod.

khonthakek · Guru

don't worry about it!! the government just don't care much!!!
this is not Laotian website and not Lao language

LAO SPY · Senior Member

I think it's good that our Webmaster has required our members and visitors to sign in while he is not around.

I love it. There would be no fake people who like to make the bad comments to discredit other people or make good comments to praise themselves.

Some people pretend like they are Laotian, although their citizenship is American, French ...Thai, and vice versa.

That is why this website seems to be ugly sometimes like the person, whose name is Siamforlife, based on his writing style, I think, is Laotian, but he pretends like he is a Thai person.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 10:46, 2008-09-09

SeeHarHed · Guru

is this mean.... our por siew "LaoPeopleArmy" will no longer be reply to our comments???

half of the people from laos probably use internet cafe... some probably at their work places.. small number of people that actually have internet connection.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:

is this mean.... our por siew "LaoPeopleArmy" will no longer be reply to our comments???

half of the people from laos probably use internet cafe... some probably at their work places.. small number of people that actually have internet connection.

idea
That is my primary concern since it would be harder for many people in Laos to post their comments if they have to register first. Can you imagine they have to wait for their turn with limited amount of time they can spend on the internet?

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 05:20, 2008-09-09

King Of Lao People Don't Rush · Veteran Member

BruceLaoMan wrote:

SeeHarHed wrote:

is this mean.... our por siew "LaoPeopleArmy" will no longer be reply to our comments???

half of the people from laos probably use internet cafe... some probably at their work places.. small number of people that actually have internet connection.

That is my primary concern since it would be harder for many people in Laos to post their comments if they have to register first. Can you imagine they have to wait for their turn with limited amount of time they can spend on the internet?

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 05:20, 2008-09-09

Most of lao people don't rush use internet at the internet shop and lao people don't rush(LaoPDR) do not care or have the mean to track them down ...by the time they got to the internet shop ...all be long gone ...like myself me no worry .

paris_vientiane · Guru

even "anonymous", your IP can be tracked.

Anyway, who cares? Laos is a democraty, isn't it?

La dictature, c'est "ferme ta gueule", la démocratie, c'est "cause toujours"
(very difficult to translate... let's try.... Dictatorship is "shut up", and Democraty is "you can talk and argue as much as you want, i don't care")

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

paris_vientiane wrote:

even "anonymous", your IP can be tracked.

Anyway, who cares? Laos is a democraty, isn't it?

La dictature, c'est "ferme ta gueule", la démocratie, c'est "cause toujours"
(very difficult to translate... let's try.... Dictatorship is "shut up", and Democraty is "you can talk and argue as much as you want, i don't care")

If they all go by “Anonymous User IDs” at the coffee shop, or library, tracking down the IP address would be useless. Many Laotians still live in fear of persecution by the communist officials and they will not say anything deem critical or negative toward the government in spite of their unhappiness. They don’t have the right to publicly express criticism.

SeeHarHed · Guru

that's just too bad than... i guess no more "sa hai LPA"

i think lao government is worry about things being said in this website.. they have other things to worry about..

Lan_Xang · Guru

Sa Hai LPA never bother to re-register? I asked him to do it. I guess he didn't have time to re- register. (Not many people have 1 minute to spare)

Anyway, screen name/user name is irrelevant. They track the IP. They can go directly to any cafe shop if they want. They know the IP address of the coffee shop (which mean they can look up physical address of the shop) and the unique computer ID (so they know which PC in the shop you use). Also, tracking down who use the PC is easy. Just check the log book at the cafe to see who and when they bought the internet usage time.

So folks, Name or No name does not matter. Having user name just make it easy for other members in the forum in to reply to your comments.

SeeHarHed · Guru

Lan_Xang wrote:

Sa Hai LPA never bother to re-register? I asked him to do it. I guess he didn't have time to re- register. (Not many people have 1 minute to spare)

Anyway, screen name/user name is irrelevant. They track the IP. They can go directly to any cafe shop if they want. They know the IP address of the coffee shop (which mean they can look up physical address of the shop) and the unique computer ID (so they know which PC in the shop you use). Also, tracking down who use the PC is easy. Just check the log book at the cafe to see who and when they bought the internet usage time.

So folks, Name or No name does not matter. Having user name just make it easy for other members in the forum in to reply to your comments.

i don't know how many times you been back to Laos... or how many times you used internet cafe in Laos?? let me correct you if i may... i've been back to Laos so many times and used so many internet cafes all over Laos.. not once!!! i've seen a log book ok.. basically, you walk in and see empty booth.. you just sit down and start surfing.. the front desk guy will keep track of how many minutes or hours you been there.. so, it is impossible for them to track down which pc is which..

Lan_Xang · Guru

SeeHarHed wrote:

i don't know how many times you been back to Laos... or how many times you used internet cafe in Laos?? let me correct you if i may... i've been back to Laos so many times and used so many internet cafes all over Laos.. not once!!! i've seen a log book ok.. basically, you walk in and see empty booth.. you just sit down and start surfing.. the front desk guy will keep track of how many minutes or hours you been there.. so, it is impossible for them to track down which pc is which..

Maybe we are talking about 2 different things here. Tracking down wich PC is which is easy. Tracking to see who use is difficult because the owner might not check ID of the person, that person might not use his/her real name, etc....

If I have right equipment I can monitor activity of particular internet cafe right in front of the place (or not). I can see someone posting the comment on Samakomlao in real time. I can have my elite Laos SWAT team storm the cafe and told everyone to stay put while I check on the IP subaddress of each PC. I will know who posting on which PC. furious

Stuff we talk/discuss in this forum is nothing. They will not do anything about i because it would be a waste of resources and manpower. biggrin

old buff · Veteran Member

then and than again. It's very unsafe to express opinions then.

SeeHarHed · Guru

Lan_Xang wrote:

Maybe we are talking about 2 different things here. Tracking down wich PC is which is easy. Tracking to see who use is difficult because the owner might not check ID of the person, that person might not use his/her real name, etc....

If I have right equipment I can monitor activity of particular internet cafe right in front of the place (or not). I can see someone posting the comment on Samakomlao in real time. I can have my elite Laos SWAT team storm the cafe and told everyone to stay put while I check on the IP subaddress of each PC. I will know who posting on which PC.

Stuff we talk/discuss in this forum is nothing. They will not do anything about i because it would be a waste of resources and manpower.

LMAO!!!!! ok dude... go ahead and send out your SWAT team to all the internet cafes around the country.. hahahhahah

in earlier posting... you mentioned about log book.. but i notices you didn't comment back since i told you that.. no internet cafes keeps track of who's who using internet.. i know this!!! cause i've been to laos so many times and used many different internet cafes.. they never check for i.d. nor care what you doing.. as long you paid them for the time you use..

and.. i never argue with you about tracking down IP... anyone can do that...

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

By the same token, I don’t really believe that the communist officials in Laos would actually want to do anything that would harm the business interest. The worse they can do is to give a warning to the shop owners. Not to mention how easy it is to bride those officials anyway, but that’s beyond the point.

People in Laos had already been ingrained with fears in their mentality for so long, and it’s not that easy to overcome. It will take time. As SeeHarHed said, he had been to Laos many times and witnessed it in his very own eyes how people came in and paid for the use of the internet then left. People who have money in Laos are not so afraid of the communist only the poor are. idea

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 23:05, 2008-09-09

LAO SPY · Senior Member

BruceLaoMan wrote:
Many Laotians still live in fear of persecution by the communist officials and they will not say anything deem critical or negative toward the government in spite of their unhappiness. They don’t have the right to publicly express criticism.

You are wrong BruceLaoman. It's not true that Lao people still live in fear of persecution. That was a past history for Lao people already.

Nowadays, they can criticize Lao authorities who do something bad for Lao people and Laos. We Lao people can send letters, emails, faxes and so on to authorities concerned to look on the bad officials. I don't know whether you have ever heard about this which has been a normal practice for Lao people since 5 years ago.

Morever, we Lao people also have the right to suggest or express our opinion whatever we think is best to cope with the weak points.

So please don't tell me that Lao people still live in fear. No Lao people would do like that unless they are the members of anti-Lao government movement.

LAO SPY · Senior Member

BruceLaoMan wrote:

People who have money in Laos are not so afraid of the communist only the poor are.

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 23:05, 2008-09-09

Lao people are equal to Lao law. All want peace in Laos, but not war. Stop talking rubbish.

Only low educated people would talk without grounds to support their claim. So I still believe that you Bruce are a high educated person. Probably, you cannot just imagine and edit it like movie.

If I were you I should start from the fact, is it right?

LAO SPY · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:
LMAO!!!!! ok dude... go ahead and send out your SWAT team to all the internet cafes around the country.. hahahhahah
in earlier posting... you mentioned about log book.. but i notices you didn't comment back since i told you that.. no internet cafes keeps track of who's who using internet.. i know this!!! cause i've been to laos so many times and used many different internet cafes.. they never check for i.d. nor care what you doing.. as long you paid them for the time you use..
and.. i never argue with you about tracking down IP... anyone can do that...

Thanks God! At least we have someone who lives in USA and knows well the situation in Laos. Actually, the fact that they have never tracked down IP in Laos is because they believe that nobody would be able to afford to spend their money on the rubbish things.

Apart from that, nobody would bother to read the anti government opinin on the Internet, precisely they don't like to read even in Lao language. That is a truth, biggrin

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 03:06, 2008-09-10

SJCALSBM3 · Senior Member

if Laos Please Don't Rush (LPDR) wants to track down people they would've done it from the IP address even if you're registered it or not.
This is good that everyone should register before they could post their comments so it's easier to reply to the person. I am for it.

People that live outside of Laos, please don't think your **** don't stink. If you are LAO, you are alway be LAO, rich or poor, educated or not always treat people with respect. it doesn't matter where you are at.

Peace,

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

LAO SPY wrote:

Lao people are equal to Lao law. All want peace in Laos, but not war. Stop talking rubbish.

Only low educated people would talk without grounds to support their claim. So I still believe that you Bruce are a high educated person. Probably, you cannot just imagine and edit it like movie.

If I were you I should start from the fact, is it right?

Are you telling me these basic rights had just been granted 5 years ago? Are you sure that people in the countryside and in the rural areas have the same rights to criticize the local authority? I have a hard time to believe it especially it was only 5 years ago when the policy was put in practice. So there is no intimidation, or coercion from those communist authorities if people stand up against them. Just because there is a policy in place, does not necessarily mean it’s been enforced. I have no doubt for people in the big cities enjoy the privilege specially the rich. They are not afraid of communist officials like the poor are. I just read the grievances in this Samakoma website from two anonymous users who were forced to relocate from their homes and their lands. I will repost them for you, so you can tell me if it’s true or not that they are afraid to challenge the communist officials in the court. I am not talking about faxing, or emailing your complaints regarding those low ranking authorities who have bad conducts in which I have no doubt anyone can do that. I mean petitioning the government to listen to my case if I gather enough signatures from people in my community without being marked as an anti-government with potential persecution. Below is what the anonymous wrote:

you wrong Mr TSP
I 'm one of the victim that's why i know what have happent in real
i went to listen what the government stuff have talked by my ears.
you live in out country so you don't know what is going on.
if you don't trust my talking when u visit lao on vocation
you can go to ask residents who live in Ban KOK Noi, ban Kok Yai...
8 villages (i don't remember all the name).
prove it by your ears! just remember what i said. one more thing Mr. TSP,
you learn from the history which wrote by the
LAO Government. the person who won in the
war is a hero. i doupt your view on it either.
find out by yourself, if you have internet on hand
and think hard by your brain and read alot!
don't be a blind at all. don't just follow what they have
said, you should have your own idea.
i have seen only, how much that they have taken
from country, selling gold, rob lands from residents,
lot of corrubtion, cutting forest, even bring china people coming
to country, how much it will enough? did you open your eyes?
or just close your eyes and let them take your hand to walk? what did you learn from other country? you don't learn any good thing from
other country. if government has project , they will go to explain the content
first, and ask premission from residents and find new place or new living
and have to satisfy their need. if government could not satisfy their need the project will stop. did you know about it? might not
for the vilages name , you can go to ask people at ບ້ານໂຄກນ້ອຍ,ໂຄກໃຫຍ່....
and the village near The seagame stadium.
the news Lao Government do not open it just doing quietly, just ask people
who lives in the villages to listen their talk and sign for them, so they can make
a flower report, people can't say nothing because they are afraid. you don't know and don't see what the stuff said to people who have to lost their land.
when they asked what should i do with my house and how much that they will pay for, the government stuff said just go to ask Chinese.
you can doupt my talk, but think by your brain, make a question and findout
by yourself. remember this sentenses:
brainless people just follow what people said cleaver people will just listen, make a question and findout by their ownself!.
my question to you: who made the law? whose country? do they can
do and take everything from country just because they used to done the war? what the hero is really mean? should we call and respect them as a hero? look at the reality what have happen in our country now. i believe that you are smart
and have education , please ask yourself will you work for the government or
work for LAO people!
just sharing some informations you don't have to trust it at first, come back listen people talk, look at teenager and society and think hard, WHY and HOW
Mr TSP. find out by yourself!

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 04:17, 2008-09-10

SeeHarHed · Guru

LAO SPY wrote:

Thanks God! At least we have someone who lives in USA and knows well the situation in Laos. Actually, the fact that they have never tracked down IP in Laos is because they believe that nobody would be able to afford to spend their money on the rubbish things.

Apart from that, nobody would bother to read the anti government opinin on the Internet, precisely they don't like to read even in Lao language. That is a truth,

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 03:06, 2008-09-10

i think you missing a point here... i'm not even sure what you're talking about?? i'm not talking about anti anything... i'm talking about lao government tracking down IP and bring SWAT team in to internet shop.. like that dude Lan Xang mentioned.. i'm just trying say that... no internet shops in Laos have a log book... that's all i've been trying to tell Lan Xang

Lan_Xang · Guru

Great no log book is kept or no one is checking your ID before using cafe.
We are both right. I am not debating your claim.

I am not arguing about that. You can still check which PC access Samakomlao at what day and time. What I am saying is if they want to Laos PDR elite SWAT team (sarcasm) can Laos internet police (sarcasm) can track you down. It is possible to do it.

You are telling us no one check ID or log book is kept. Great. I got it. But what I am saying is you can track anyone anytime with or without log book.

SJCALSBM3 · Senior Member

ahmen

eta rap · Veteran Member

Nothing to say but just wanna laugh out loud, you are so meaning Mr Brucelaoman, I salute your attitude display here. biggrin

LAO SPY · Senior Member

Wow! I see something is so different from someone's name.

In fact, I must say that Lao and Western styles are so different when it comes to women. We Lao people, who live Laos, respect women as mothers, while the Western people respect women probably as prostitutes.

So from that point of view, no wonder Lao people cannot adopt Western culture, especially in regard with our women.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 01:44, 2008-09-11

Lan_Xang · Guru

LAO SPY wrote:

Wow! I see something is so different from someone's name.

In fact, I must say that Lao and Western styles are so different when it comes to women. We Lao people, who live Laos, respect women as mothers, while the Western people respect women probably as prostitutes.

So from that point of view, no wonder Lao people cannot adopt Western culture, especially in regard with our women.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 01:44, 2008-09-11

How do you explain the behavior of the so call Laos Minister's daughter?

Don't be all high and mighty on us. You can find this sort of people anywhere. Yes, even in the very high moral and upstanding country such as Laos PDR.

TSP · Senior Member

Lan_Xang wrote:

Don't be all high and mighty on us. You can find this sort of people anywhere. Yes, even in the very high moral and upstanding country such as Laos PDR.

Yes, this is the kind of democracy, isn't it?

What do you think Mr. Lan_Xang, is it similar?

dokdumduan · Veteran Member

that is real brucelao he love nacked lady. same thing with lanxang.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

dokdumduan wrote:

that is real brucelao he love nacked lady. same thing with lanxang.

I don't know about Lan Xang, but I love to eat pussies.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

LAO SPY wrote:

Wow! I see something is so different from someone's name.

In fact, I must say that Lao and Western styles are so different when it comes to women. We Lao people, who live Laos, respect women as mothers, while the Western people respect women probably as prostitutes.

So from that point of view, no wonder Lao people cannot adopt Western culture, especially in regard with our women.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 01:44, 2008-09-11

You are so pathetic with a peanut brain size of yours to even say that. Are you crazy? No women want to be treated like a mother simply they are not your mother. They want to express their womanism, sensualism. They all want loving, caring and affection. The want to be treated as lovers, sexual partners. They want a man who is romantic, who knows how to please them physically and mentally. They want attentions; they want to show off their beauty. People in a developed world share identical dreams in life to have good sex not boring sex because they know they are only born once and it’s just a matter of time before their skins start aging, wriggling, so they would do whatever it takes to enjoy lives. Women or men in Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea you name it, they can’t have a mentality of yours simply because they are from modern society. People in Laos will be the same if Laos will ever get to develop in the 21^st century. What can we expect much when millions of Laotian ladies did not even have lipsticks in the 90s? If I need to remind you my visit to Vientian, and Thakkhek in 1994, so many cheap prostitutes were everywhere. So, don’t be too self center and blindly praise the culture so much. Culture changes as a country achieves greater prosperity. Can you tell those women in Laos to take off their jeans and order them to wear only traditional dresses? Laos’ exceptionalism is just a misunderstanding of its basic insignificance and economical disadvantage. Next time, think a little bit deeper before you blab, babble in here.

dokdumduan · Veteran Member

you so dirty bruce. u not respect woman at all.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

dokdumduan wrote:

you so dirty bruce. u not respect woman at all.

Women love a dirty man like me in bed.

LAO SPY · Senior Member

BruceLaoMan wrote:

They want a man who is romantic, who knows how to please them physically and mentally. They want attentions; they want to show off their beauty. People in a developed world share identical dreams in life to have good sex not boring sex because they know they are only born once and it’s just a matter of time before their skins start aging, wriggling, so they would do whatever it takes to enjoy lives. Women or men in Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea you name it, they can’t have a mentality of yours simply because they are from modern society. People in Laos will be the same if Laos will ever get to develop in the 21^st century. What can we expect much when millions of Laotian ladies did not even have lipsticks in the 90s? If I need to remind you my visit to Vientian, and Thakkhek in 1994, so many cheap prostitutes were everywhere. So, don’t be too self center and blindly praise the culture so much. Culture changes as a country achieves greater prosperity. Can you tell those women in Laos to take off their jeans and order them to wear only traditional dresses? Laos’ exceptionalism is just a misunderstanding of its basic insignificance and economical disadvantage. Next time, think a little bit deeper before you blab, babble in here.

I have no words. He seems to be a son of prostitute in Thakek, probably. That's why he knows well about women, who behave like his mother.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 03:25, 2008-09-11

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

LAO SPY wrote:

I have no words. He seems to be a son of prostitute in Thakek, probably. That's why he knows well about women, who behave like his mother.

-- Edited by LAO SPY at 03:25, 2008-09-11

You are a son of a bitch. You talk to me and you don't bring up anyone's mother. How about I give your ugly as$ bitch mother a fukk. I think she will be much happier than getting a boring fukk from your dad. BITCH! I have no more respect for you.

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 03:31, 2008-09-11

dokdumduan · Veteran Member

555555555555 good 1 laospy. i am with you.

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

That is because you are an indigent peasant like him without much education. What can I expect?

LAO SPY · Senior Member

dokdumduan wrote:

555555555555 good 1 laospy. i am with you.

Thank you very much Dokdumduan you are in my side. I hate it when people act contrary to other people's feeling.

"Edication does not always help people to be good." This sentence was said by our member "Saffron" who lives in Canada long time ago in this website. He was really right.

dokdumduan · Veteran Member

don't pretend to be the best than other bruce,. education not help you at all.

pa sa bok xat, mala yad bok takoon. your behave that tell us who you are. get a life bruce.

SeeHarHed · Guru

ooyyy norr pee nong LAO tung lai... huk pang gun sa.. ya su gutt hua gun gin lai

LAO SPY · Senior Member

dokdumduan wrote:

don't pretend to be the best than other bruce,. education not help you at all.

pa sa bok xat, mala yad bok takoon. your behave that tell us who you are. get a life bruce.

Thanks a lot for helping me to educate him, Dokdumduan.

SeeHarHed · Guru

dokdumduan wrote:

don't pretend to be the best than other bruce,. education not help you at all.

pa sa bok xat, mala yad bok takoon. your behave that tell us who you are. get a life bruce.

hhhhmmmm... what's dokdumduan looks like?? can you post the picture?

dokdumduan · Veteran Member

here is dok dumduan is combodia national flower . smell good n fruit is delicieux
http://bp3.blogger.com/_aswO8m4zchc/RoNp6aUJ21I/AAAAAAAADEI/8NU8JSWBlqk/s1600-h/Rumdul_-_Cambodia.jpg

-- Edited by dokdumduan at 18:15, 2008-09-11

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

LAO SPY wrote:

dokdumduan wrote:

don't pretend to be the best than other bruce,. education not help you at all.

pa sa bok xat, mala yad bok takoon. your behave that tell us who you are. get a life bruce.

Thanks a lot for helping me to educate him, Dokdumduan.

First of all, I have more life than you may have realized. I despise your pathetic proverb and don’t look at yourself as someone who comes from a society of “Aristocracy” because you do not, and that’s the fact. Every culture has its own uniqueness and beauty and value; I respect it, but I am not bound by it since it also has its own backward and weakness as well; therefore, I look at it base on its virtue.

Our culture is not perfect and certainly not considered from a high caste either simply because it too has its own shame. Many Laotians living in the West had brought with them the good and the bad of the culture from Laos. Such as slurping food in their mouths while eating reminds me of animals, talking with the mouthful of food, belching so loud in the public without saying excuse me, sticking the fingers in their noses to dig for gold and spit the mucus on the floors; the list goes on. Do you expect me to value this? Look at yourself first before preaching others. Recognizing our own weakness, makes us become stronger person in life, but living in denial will take you nowhere.

Whatever I said, it may not get in your head because you are so convinced that only your culture is better than anyone else in the world. You have been marinated in a culture of narcissism, but in truth, your delusion is due to your own stupidity. Base on the nature of my job, I have interviewed and interacted with people from all walks of life and that’s how I learned the strength and weakness of all cultures in general.

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 23:43, 2008-09-11

TSP · Senior Member

I have a feeling that someone confused between Lao culture and Lao custom or behavior. Yes, I do agree that there are lots of thing that Lao people need to improve with regard to our custom such as how some Lao people live and eat, "Soura Nary" in particular.

Culture and custom are totally diffrent issues, although the meaning of these two words are very close.

Custom (Papeinee) is way of behaving which has been established for a long time.

Culture (Vatanatum) is the way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time.

Talking about Lao culture, I however do think that Lao people, who live in Laos, still believe that only Lao culture is needed to keep in Laos forever, but not Western culture.

BruceLaoMan wrote:
Our culture is not perfect and certainly not considered from a high caste either simply because it too has its own shame.

Many Laotians living in the West had brought with them the good and the bad of the culture from Laos. Such as slurping food in their mouths while eating reminds me of animals, talking with the mouthful of food, belching so loud in the public without saying excuse me, sticking the fingers in their noses to dig for gold and spit the mucus on the floors; the list goes on.

Do you expect me to value this? Look at yourself first before preaching others. Recognizing our own weakness, makes us become stronger person in life, but living in denial will take you nowhere.

-- Edited by TSP at 08:08, 2008-09-12

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

TSP wrote:
Custom (Papeinee) is way of behaving which has been established for a long time.

Culture (Vatanatum) is the way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time.

Talking about Lao culture, I however do think that Lao people, who live in Laos, still believe that only Lao culture is needed to keep in Laos forever, but not Western culture.
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I will try my best to explain to you the central point that I have tried to make. Yes, custom and culture may have slightly differences in meaning but nonetheless, they coherently lead one to another in terms of practices regardless of how you want to define them. If you want to be precise about the two then I am fine with that. Custom means basically (habitual practice) and (culture is the quality of a person or society that is regarded as excellence such as in arts, letters, manners, etc.)(Tradition is the handing down of statements, beliefs, custom from generation to generation) as you can see, these three have the same basic functionalities and your way of life is also based on what the tradition and culture had passed on to you.

It is an undeniable fact that Western culture is so powerful in which it has influenced people around the world especially in the developed world and in the developing world. In Asia alone such as: South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, ect. Even China now with a proud history of 5000 years can’t stop their people from adopting some forms of Western culture in many parts of their society. People in the big cities in particular, copy Western look, from haircuts to hair perm, from music to daily appearances; for example, in Shanghai, Beijing, Guangdong, ect. Having Western look means having beauty and their people pay thousands of dollars for cosmetic surgery. It is very seldom for them to dress like Chinese unless it is a special event such as a cultural exhibition. Twenty years ago, their people were still wearing Mao Zedong-alike uniforms and sandals made of rubbers paddling bicycles throughout China without cars. Everybody had the same haircuts, but China now with economy ranks number 4 in the world sure has changed a lot.

In addition, adopting Western way of life and the desire for western living standard have become common wishes among citizens. From development to architecture and the list goes on; All Chinese metropolises have only a handful of traditional buildings left standing because most of them had been demolished and rebuilt based on Western architecture. Younger generation believe that they can look better than their counterpart Hong Kongers who were once looked down upon them. Their women now wear tight jeans, mini skirts, high heals and see through outfits. You can call it a natural evolutionary process as the country is financially making progress.

Laos too, if it will ever get close to a developing status, lets say 20 years from now; all the kids who were born in 2000s will be in their teens and they will be influenced by Western culture more or less. This is a fact. I wouldn’t be surprised either if Vientiane girls want to look prettier than their neighboring Thailand who has history of looking down upon them. If you still live by then, you may need to do a survey to find out how many of them like to wear your traditional Laotian clothes like “Sinh” on a daily basis. At the moment, Laotians are still too poor and having Western beauty would be the least important in their lives. Millions are still facing malnutrition and defecating in the bush during sunny or rainy days are still part of life in Laos. Our young kids travel far in a quest for work, and many are probably confined somewhere in Thailand. I wouldn’t be worried too much of losing Lao culture in Laos if I were you. Culture will somewhat remain forever in every countries. How influenced can it be in our daily life by then? That’s a different story. Sexual exploitation and sexual slavery of our minors in a foreign land should be your priority of concern. It's heartbreaking to learn about our young children have been abused by these crooks. Can you see?

BruceLaoMan · Senior Member

-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 06:48, 2008-09-14

Date: Dec 28, 2008

dokdumduan wrote:

don't pretend to be the best than other bruce,. education not help you at all.

pa sa bok xat, mala yad bok takoon. your behave that tell us who you are. get a life bruce.

Date: Dec 28, 2008

Looking back, or read back all replies from BLM, it tells you what kind of a PERVERT, a JERK he had been, he was ...,and he still is at this moment.
Samakomlao readers, you're the judge.

Date: Dec 28, 2008

Actuatly this is NOT my real IP adress.....you or whoever cant track my actuatly adress...why?

im here just for READ about my country. not for reply ur comment..

doesnt matter!!!!!

Date: Dec 29, 2008

SeeHarHed wrote:

that's just too bad than... i guess no more "sa hai LPA"

i think lao government is worry about things being said in this website.. they have other things to worry about..

It's just too bad then, not just too bad than. then is different from than. Look into the dictionary how to use the word "then" and "than".