it is always like that, what is the true history? probably Lao history textbook is not true written...anyway, I believe in Lao history textbook, because i am Lao.. i dont know about thai, they are surely believe their textbook, because it has written by thai
Anonymous wrote: it's thai language for thai people and write by thai people, don't have to worry about it because those things are unreliable reference documents.
Don't take it so serious MY PI Nong Lao Nork, what king Anouvong done was identically the same as King Nearasuan of Siam have done to their former master, the Burmese. King Nearasuan was taken in by Boreng nong and raised as his own son, but yet King Nearasuan turned against son of Boreng nong after his death.
Don't take it so serious MY PI Nong Lao Nork, what king Anouvong done was identically the same as King Nearasuan of Siam have done to their former master, the Burmese. King Nearasuan was taken in by Boreng nong and raised as his own son, but yet King Nearasuan turned against son of Boreng nong after his death.
I don't think so first of all King Nearasuan didn't ask anyone for any help to fight back with Burmese when King Anouvong did ask Vietnam and Jumpasak for help so what do you think was gonna happend next even if Lao win over Thai? Lao probably be under Vietnam control or even Burmese again. and since Lao can't handle Thai what make you think Lao can handle either Vietnam or Burmese?
secondly King Nearasuan declares war with Burmese first and then do it when King Anouvong sent a letter told Thai that he was gonna go help Thai fight the English. There are honorable way and unhonorable way to do the war you know.
and so on and on
Oh Yeah I know your reaction would be Thai history is bias right?
I don't think so first of all King Nearasuan didn't ask anyone for any help to fight back with Burmese when King Anouvong did ask Vietnam and Jumpasak for help so what do you think was gonna happend next even if Lao win over Thai? Lao probably be under Vietnam control or even Burmese again. and since Lao can't handle Thai what make you think Lao can handle either Vietnam or Burmese?
secondly King Nearasuan declares war with Burmese first and then do it when King Anouvong sent a letter told Thai that he was gonna go help Thai fight the English. There are honorable way and unhonorable way to do the war you know.
and so on and on
Oh Yeah I know your reaction would be Thai history is bias right?
According to Thai history, Ya Mo got thousands of thousands of Lao soldiers drunk and some people believe it too, right?
I don't think so first of all King Nearasuan didn't ask anyone for any help to fight back with Burmese when King Anouvong did ask Vietnam and Jumpasak for help so what do you think was gonna happend next even if Lao win over Thai? Lao probably be under Vietnam control or even Burmese again. and since Lao can't handle Thai what make you think Lao can handle either Vietnam or Burmese?
secondly King Nearasuan declares war with Burmese first and then do it when King Anouvong sent a letter told Thai that he was gonna go help Thai fight the English. There are honorable way and unhonorable way to do the war you know.
and so on and on
Oh Yeah I know your reaction would be Thai history is bias right?
According to Thai history, Ya Mo got thousands of thousands of Lao soldiers drunk and some people believe it too, right?
Was that a Lao history to tell that Lao soldiers are not only weak, stupid and they even had premature ejaculation, right?
The point to this debate was about being FREE, both Lan xang and Siam had their own kingdom in the past. Why is it wrong when Lao breaks away from it's suppressor Siam and not Siam from theirs, the Burmese. Besides, Rama III was nothing but a jealously person with primarily intention of eradicating of Lao race which your government still strongly believe in those ideas.
Oh......and yes I do believe Thai history is BIAS just so they make themselves look superior than others. Part of the reason why I said their history were BIAS was because King Anouvong didn't bring back Thai people to Vientiene, it was the other way around. If you think I was wrong about what I just said " IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND" please feel free to show me any evidence of Siamese people relocated from Siam to Vientiene.
The point to this debate was about being FREE, both Lan xang and Siam had their own kingdom in the past. Why is it wrong when Lao breaks away from it's suppressor Siam and not Siam from theirs, the Burmese. Besides, Rama III was nothing but a jealously person with primarily intention of eradicating of Lao race which your government still strongly believe in those ideas.
Oh......and yes I do believe Thai history is BIAS just so they make themselves look superior than others. Part of the reason why I said their history were BIAS was because King Anouvong didn't bring back Thai people to Vientiene, it was the other way around. If you think I was wrong about what I just said " IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND" please feel free to show me any evidence of Siamese people relocated from Siam to Vientiene.
And who said that it was wrong for wanted to be free. We just said that it was unacceptable for Thai. Just like Lao Vientiene won't let Lao Luang Prabang and Lao Champasak have their freedom without a fight right?
Wasn't that why King Anouvong ask Rama II to make King Anouvong's blood rule over Champasak so I think Rama III had a good reason for not trusted King Anouvong. Lao always use the blood thing to unite Lao together. So I guess It was Thai fault huh that Thai king wasn't married one of Lao princess.
Oh I too do believe Lao history is bias just so they make themselves look superior than others. Look in to Lao history and you won't see any bad thing about Lao it's like Lao is an angel never done anything bad to anyone.
If you only take just a second to think about why there aren't any evidence of Thai people relocated from Siam to Vientiene you wouldn't have to asked this kind of question. Because there aren't any. Why? Because Thai people never relocated from Siam to Vientiene. Why? Because Thai won over Lao way before Thai captive even steped a foot in to Lao that's why.
all of us don't know what the exactly is, don't have to care it much just learn from past and make today is the best. If all of us help each other Laos will be the Top one day. day by day, just try our best to develop our country!
And who said that it was wrong for wanted to be free. We just said that it was unacceptable for Thai. Just like Lao Vientiene won't let Lao Luang Prabang and Lao Champasak have their freedom without a fight right?
Wasn't that why King Anouvong ask Rama II to make King Anouvong's blood rule over Champasak so I think Rama III had a good reason for not trusted King Anouvong. Lao always use the blood thing to unite Lao together. So I guess It was Thai fault huh that Thai king wasn't married one of Lao princess.
Oh I too do believe Lao history is bias just so they make themselves look superior than others. Look in to Lao history and you won't see any bad thing about Lao it's like Lao is an angel never done anything bad to anyone.
If you only take just a second to think about why there aren't any evidence of Thai people relocated from Siam to Vientiene you wouldn't have to asked this kind of question. Because there aren't any. Why? Because Thai people never relocated from Siam to Vientiene. Why? Because Thai won over Lao way before Thai captive even steped a foot in to Lao that's why
True that Rama II allowed son of King Anou to rule over Champasack, and King Anou was greatly appreciated Rama II. Perhaps, your history never teach you how jealiouly was Rama III over king Anou and how he treated those Lao people who live on the left side of Mekong River. Chao Ratsavong were treated with disrepect during the grand opening of Wat Prakeo, people from what is now called Esan were tatoot on the face as bunch animals. Let say if Lao was the one who have done those thing to Siamese, would your Rama sit still and watch while it happened? OH.....also true that Siamese king never marrie Lao princess, but Rama I raped Princess Keow khorm on the way to Siam as it was mentioned on the scripts of Western Missionary to Siam.
The reason there was no signed of Siamese relocated into Lao was because those thing had never happened as it was mentioned in the Modern Siamese history. Your so called history said King Anou attacked Khorat and gather the Siamee for the purpose of relocating to Vientiene....LOL Why would he want to do that when those people who live along those areas were Lao.
LOL..."Thai captived Lao even before steped foot into Lao."
LOL....If wasn't for Lao, Siamese would be speaking Cambodian..Oh I forgot your language is haft Khmer....LOL
"And who said that it was wrong for wanted to be free. We just said that it was unacceptable for Thai. Just like Lao Vientiene won't let Lao Luang Prabang and Lao Champasak have their freedom without a fight right?
Wasn't that why King Anouvong ask Rama II to make King Anouvong's blood rule over Champasak so I think Rama III had a good reason for not trusted King Anouvong. Lao always use the blood thing to unite Lao together. So I guess It was Thai fault huh that Thai king wasn't married one of Lao princess.
Oh I too do believe Lao history is bias just so they make themselves look superior than others. Look in to Lao history and you won't see any bad thing about Lao it's like Lao is an angel never done anything bad to anyone.
If you only take just a second to think about why there aren't any evidence of Thai people relocated from Siam to Vientiene you wouldn't have to asked this kind of question. Because there aren't any. Why? Because Thai people never relocated from Siam to Vientiene. Why? Because Thai won over Lao way before Thai captive even steped a foot in to Lao that's why"
True that Rama II allowed son of King Anou to rule over Champasack, and King Anou was greatly appreciated Rama II. Perhaps, your history never teach you how jealiouly was Rama III over king Anou and how he treated those Lao people who live on the left side of Mekong River. Chao Ratsavong were treated with disrepect during the grand opening of Wat Prakeo, people from what is now called Esan were tatoot on the face as bunch animals. Let say if Lao was the one who have done those thing to Siamese, would your Rama sit still and watch while it happened? OH.....also true that Siamese king never marrie Lao princess, but Rama I raped Princess Keow khorm on the way to Siam as it was mentioned on the scripts of Western Missionary to Siam.
The reason there was no signed of Siamese relocated into Lao was because those thing had never happened as it was mentioned in the Modern Siamese history. Your so called history said King Anou attacked Khorat and gather the Siamee for the purpose of relocating to Vientiene....LOL Why would he want to do that when those people who live along those areas were Lao.
LOL..."Thai captived Lao even before steped foot into Lao."
LOL....If wasn't for Lao, Siamese would be speaking Cambodian..Oh I forgot your language is haft Khmer....LOL
5555555555 and Lao Nork still want to be Thai and keep supporting Thai economic.....Keep it up Lao Nork!!!
you got that wrong.... 1st, we donn't consume their product and good. 2nd, our kid donn't act to talk like thai "ja or ka"...3nd, we are not cazy about Thai, American or anybody. we know, who we are and where we came from.
LOL....If wasn't for Lao, Siamese would be speaking Cambodian..Oh I forgot your language is haft Khmer....LOL
Yeah and how was that that Lao help Thai don't speak Cambodian? Let me tell you something your Lao Language to day have more than 10 thousan Thai's words in it. The new word that was created by two Pali or Sanskrit or either one of them and a Thai word. The words that never exist in India and Lao and Cambodia use them as their own and never give credit to Thai. If Lao and Cambodia would have had created their own word those words would be totally different from Thai even if we have the root of Pali and Sanskrit.
television Thai word is Toratud Lao word is Torapap
but what you don't know is that Thai used to use the word Torapap long before Lao had the first television but Thai developed because we thought the word vision should be translated correctly into tudsana. That's why we don't use Torapap anymore. but for some reason maybe don't want to be like Thai so much Lao never change.
train Thai word is rodfai Lao word is rodfai too isn't? and who do you think created that word?
electricity Thai word is faifa Lao word is faifa too isn't?
bank Thai word is thanakan Lao word is thanakan too isn't?
bank note Thai word is thanabut Lao word is thanabut too isn't?
or even name of months I know that Lao have their own name now but in reality people still prefer Thai version.
and so on and on and on
just only the words that was created in Rama V was nearly 20000 if I'm not wrong. not to mention the words after that.
when Thai borrowed Cambodian words we mentioned it in Thai dictionary but Lao claim that Lao words only have like less than 1% of Thai words in Lao language which wan't true at all.
Lao can't even write their own law by useing their own language. If Lao did I'm sure it will prove that how much Lao have to use Thai words just to write their own law.
Lets cut thing shorts. Since you said every words we used came from Thai.....LOL then tell us Lao here in Samakhomlao who came first Lao or Thai. I laugh at father of Thai historian long ago and now I'm about to laught at you since you have idenity crises.
Oh.....Compare 45% of words you use daily with Khmer words would you and you might find something in common with your ancestors....LOL