How many more years does Laos need the foreign aid ?

Date: Jun 2, 2009

How many more years does Laos need the foreign aid ?

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

every body must pay taxes except the one who could not affort to pay that is very simple. The foreign aid is the foreign taxes payer's money that help laos so lao must pay income taxes , sell taxes, property taxes...etc.. The United States, England ,Australia and Japan depense on the taxes money so all the rich countries depense on the taxes and trade not aid. Lao people is not use to pay taxes , they always get pay from the goverment so it is time to change to laws and copy the countries which are very soccessful .

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Until every government officials get rich....

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Until every government officials get rich....

well, that is selfish . Not every body have that idea there are some one who still cares and loves Laos and lao people. Just try to learn from Lao history and don't make and repeat the same mistakes again time after time. 1. Jealous 2. selfish . 3. betray 4. corruption. If Lao people could do that so laos will be on her own feet with no time.

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Untill all the countries, except Laos, move to other planet.
In that time, Laos will stop asking for aids

khonthakek · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

i tell you impossible plan " re growing the opium in the nothern laos and export to comlumbia and US, MEXICO and all lao people do this business and become rich man, people are rich, country no need helps from oversea....As far as i know the opium is easy to grow and no need any advanced technics to grow it..that suit lao in the present haha.........

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Dont you have anything creative to think about. Your mind is full of rubbish! You are very stupid for even suggesting cultivation of opium. Illegal substances like that never bring good to any person nor any country!!!!

What Lao should do are:
1. Institutionalize proper tax collection
2. Practice financial transparency and good governance
3. Offer better education and opportunities, particularly to the youth (the devil's horns of elder Lao, especially the corrupt officials have already grown and hardened by time... so very little hope for them to change... may lightning strike them all at once so you will have a chance to replace them with more competent and promising ones).
4. Maximize potential of the hydroelectric power plants you are building but not at the expense of destroying your rainforests and beautiful land.
5. Never give up your land to the hands of the opportunistic Chinese (I was disappointed with what happened in Luangnamtha.. the casino, the shanties, the porno store.. they are all negative influence to Lao people)
6. Discover your own country's and individual potential, Don't just imitate the Thais or Chinese or the Americans. many of you have great potential explore ways to nurture them, having no big money should not hinder you. SOmetimes you just need to be just more creative and assertive.

Stand proud Lao!

TITTY · Member

all that sounds nice but, the biggest road block to prevent this from happening is the govenment structure. unless you clarify how to do these ideas and who will be responsible for these job duties, nothing will happen on it's own. we all want change and progress but no one wants the responsibility. they just want a desk job that watches the clock tick and sign a few papers here and there.

Stand proud AND WORK.

Date: Jun 2, 2009

This is the most stupid question to ask WHEN it wil be over?

Sorry, it's in all Lao nai's blood already. In next 10 Lao generations we still

Date: Jun 2, 2009

If all laotiane know what need and want are, they could get out foreign aid in the next five to ten years.

Date: Jun 2, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Dont you have anything creative to think about. Your mind is full of rubbish! You are very stupid for even suggesting cultivation of opium. Illegal substances like that never bring good to any person nor any country!!!!

What Lao should do are:
1. Institutionalize proper tax collection
2. Practice financial transparency and good governance
3. Offer better education and opportunities, particularly to the youth (the devil's horns of elder Lao, especially the corrupt officials have already grown and hardened by time... so very little hope for them to change... may lightning strike them all at once so you will have a chance to replace them with more competent and promising ones).
4. Maximize potential of the hydroelectric power plants you are building but not at the expense of destroying your rainforests and beautiful land.
5. Never give up your land to the hands of the opportunistic Chinese (I was disappointed with what happened in Luangnamtha.. the casino, the shanties, the porno store.. they are all negative influence to Lao people)
6. Discover your own country's and individual potential, Don't just imitate the Thais or Chinese or the Americans. many of you have great potential explore ways to nurture them, having no big money should not hinder you. SOmetimes you just need to be just more creative and assertive.

Stand proud Lao!

you said is like the previous post, talking the same thing all the time, I am sick of it, thats why i said somthing not creative ...i know that it s stupid idea, just for fun man!!relax relax

Date: Jun 2, 2009

khonthakek wrote:
i tell you impossible plan " re growing the opium in the nothern laos and export to comlumbia and US, MEXICO and all lao people do this business and become rich man, people are rich, country no need helps from oversea....As far as i know the opium is easy to grow and no need any advanced technics to grow it..that suit lao in the present haha.........

It can be a good idea. Countries like Australia, France, Spain, Turkey & India are allowed to grow opium legally for the production of morphine & related drugs for medical use...it's a huge industry, & places like Tasmania island are covered with fields of opium poppies. Laos could do the same - but only if the government is strong enough to control the production & ensure that all raw product goes straight to the pharmaceutical companies to be used solely for legal purposes.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

They need forever, as long as there are donations.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Dont you have anything creative to think about. Your mind is full of rubbish! You are very stupid for even suggesting cultivation of opium. Illegal substances like that never bring good to any person nor any country!!!!

What Lao should do are:
1. Institutionalize proper tax collection
2. Practice financial transparency and good governance
3. Offer better education and opportunities, particularly to the youth (the devil's horns of elder Lao, especially the corrupt officials have already grown and hardened by time... so very little hope for them to change... may lightning strike them all at once so you will have a chance to replace them with more competent and promising ones).
4. Maximize potential of the hydroelectric power plants you are building but not at the expense of destroying your rainforests and beautiful land.
5. Never give up your land to the hands of the opportunistic Chinese (I was disappointed with what happened in Luangnamtha.. the casino, the shanties, the porno store.. they are all negative influence to Lao people)
6. Discover your own country's and individual potential, Don't just imitate the Thais or Chinese or the Americans. many of you have great potential explore ways to nurture them, having no big money should not hinder you. SOmetimes you just need to be just more creative and assertive.

Stand proud Lao!

Thank you for your advise , I guess that you must be the foreigner official who are living in Laos. Any way you see our problems and once again thank for your advise and intension to help Laos . One day ,I hope that we could meet. Like you said the devil 's horns of elder and corrupted government officials , they are the one who pulled Laos back from getting ahead and progress. They will transfer their power to somebody just exactely like themseves who are loyal to them to take over the power. As you see this system in North Korea transfer the power from father to son and also in Cuba transfer the power from the older brother to younger brother and regardless of the peolpe like it or not . They will do anything ,they please as you said about Luangnatha and the Casina, porno, corruptions, destroy the rain forest and beautiful farm land and so go even the police help the drug smugglers and the drug dealers. So I see very little hope and almost to give up and live my life in my own peace way. Life is great and the world is wonderful to me. I am one of the lucky guy. Sometime I just could help myself the way , I feel when I see my people specially poor young kids who need clothes, food , school, vaccines...etc..

chiip · Guru

I'm sorry to hear that because I too, I'd like to giving up everything and live peacefully on my own way without thinking of any problem and let the younger generation to bear all the difficulties ahead...
sorry, sorry...

Date: Jun 3, 2009

chiip wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that because I too, I'd like to giving up everything and live peacefully on my own way without thinking of any problem and let the younger generation to bear all the difficulties ahead...
sorry, sorry...

Well, join the club . I am not that old to retired yet . I have a good life and comfortable and I feel guilty to see those poor kids and doing nothing.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

If all laotiane know what need and want are, they could get out foreign aid in the next five to ten years.

I hope you are right because the Lao people have been waiting for 35 years already . The Lao people are still poor and suffering not enough food , schools and vaccines....etc.. All I see a lot of the government official getting richer and live in a big houses and drive very expensive cars and traveling to Europe and the United States and live in luxury life style.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

As long as there is LAOS PDR there will be begging for money and there will be people taking advantage of the situation. It is like those prostitute in Thailand. Laos can't say NO. Everything is YES YES YES YES! as long as there is $$$$$$ involve.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

As long as there is LAOS PDR there will be begging for money and there will be people taking advantage of the situation. It is like those prostitute in Thailand. Laos can't say NO. Everything is YES YES YES YES! as long as there is $$$$$$ involve.

You are so damn it, man!!! Lao also have beautiful hookers why don't you aid them first. Why you have to buy a Thai hookers instead of buying our own Lao hookers?

But.....

What kind of hookers you usually buy? Girls, Matures, Boys, Men or Lady boys? biggrin

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Untill Lao is filled up with the Viets and vanish from the world map.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

no man, first i thought it would be AIRBUS, Now i had already changed my mind and sure that no any plane to make laos to be able to stand by her own feets.

Date: Jun 3, 2009

After all the gov officers say... I have enough money already.... but I think they will never get enough..... biggrin

Date: Jun 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

no man, first i thought it would be AIRBUS, Now i had already changed my mind and sure that no any plane to make laos to be able to stand by her own feets.

How about BOEING? Hahahahahahahaha!!!!

Date: Jun 3, 2009

khonthakek wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Dont you have anything creative to think about. Your mind is full of rubbish! You are very stupid for even suggesting cultivation of opium. Illegal substances like that never bring good to any person nor any country!!!!

What Lao should do are:
1. Institutionalize proper tax collection
2. Practice financial transparency and good governance
3. Offer better education and opportunities, particularly to the youth (the devil's horns of elder Lao, especially the corrupt officials have already grown and hardened by time... so very little hope for them to change... may lightning strike them all at once so you will have a chance to replace them with more competent and promising ones).
4. Maximize potential of the hydroelectric power plants you are building but not at the expense of destroying your rainforests and beautiful land.
5. Never give up your land to the hands of the opportunistic Chinese (I was disappointed with what happened in Luangnamtha.. the casino, the shanties, the porno store.. they are all negative influence to Lao people)
6. Discover your own country's and individual potential, Don't just imitate the Thais or Chinese or the Americans. many of you have great potential explore ways to nurture them, having no big money should not hinder you. SOmetimes you just need to be just more creative and assertive.

Stand proud Lao!

you said is like the previous post, talking the same thing all the time, I am sick of it, thats why i said somthing not creative ...i know that it s stupid idea, just for fun man!!relax relax
Yep, you are right and i am tired of it too in fact i want to throw up hearing it. It is very easy for you and i to say these what laos need to do that is what laos need to do. this idiot just took ideas from reading the internet took those words and post them here. If he or she has an experiences and a degree in business, in economy is ok but nam thoam thong. We have people in Laos graduated from foreign country in economy and i am sure they know more than this idiot. bla, bla, in here.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Laos need all the aid that Lao could get now but Lao must learn how to help ourself and must have a plans .

Date: Jun 4, 2009

What can I say... bo pen yang!

Date: Jun 4, 2009

HOW MANY MORE YEARS DOES LAOS NEED THE FOREIGN AID ?? Well!! Talking about Foreign Aids, Here it is!! Ever sine Laos got Independent from France in mid 40, U.S. Foreign-Aid to Laos, Fiscal years1955-63, in a millions of Dollars. This was precommunist. and all together in Nine years $480.7 Millions Dollars, This was only U.S. I didn't mention any Europeans Countries ok. The American economic-aid programe in Laos was Build around the RoyalArmy. E ach month ,the United States Government made a multimillion dollar deposit in a NewYork bank account in the name of the Royal-Lao Government. The latter then placed in a circulation the equipvalent value in (Kip) Which officially pegged at 35 to the Dollar. The Dollars were used to pay for a hard goods that were then imported into Laos by Commercial importers under a licencing System operated by the Lao Government. And American aid program concentrated on Financing the imported of hard goods in order to prevent a Runaway inflation, and neglected aid to the Countryside which would have had a permanent effects. of the $480.7 million obligated to Laos in fiscal years 1955-63, only $1.9 million was spent on improving agiculture-that is, less than 1 percent of the aid funds were spent in a field of activity that provided the livehood of 96 percent of the Population. also the Money fed into the economy of Laos to pay for the army-amounting to the Highest per-capita influx of Amercan aid into any South-East Asian country, So could I asking where all the Money goes ?To me is every Answer!! Corruption and Extortion in the Customs,banking,foreign trade. Police,and other administrative departments were common place. black market deal with Amercan aid dollars reached such proportions that ( Pathet Lao need no propaganda to turn the Rural population against the Town people. the CHINESE of Hongkong and Bangkokians and a few Lao officials profited from the American aid, while the ( Poor Lao ) for whom it was intended stood by helplessly. After Communist maybe worst than this, I don't know because I didn't live in Laos any more. Maybe ask our Lao-nai Brother, they know better than any Lao-nok. * Warning I was not accusing either sides of Corrupted Ok, to me they both the same*.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

khonthakek wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Dont you have anything creative to think about. Your mind is full of rubbish! You are very stupid for even suggesting cultivation of opium. Illegal substances like that never bring good to any person nor any country!!!!

What Lao should do are:
1. Institutionalize proper tax collection
2. Practice financial transparency and good governance
3. Offer better education and opportunities, particularly to the youth (the devil's horns of elder Lao, especially the corrupt officials have already grown and hardened by time... so very little hope for them to change... may lightning strike them all at once so you will have a chance to replace them with more competent and promising ones).
4. Maximize potential of the hydroelectric power plants you are building but not at the expense of destroying your rainforests and beautiful land.
5. Never give up your land to the hands of the opportunistic Chinese (I was disappointed with what happened in Luangnamtha.. the casino, the shanties, the porno store.. they are all negative influence to Lao people)
6. Discover your own country's and individual potential, Don't just imitate the Thais or Chinese or the Americans. many of you have great potential explore ways to nurture them, having no big money should not hinder you. SOmetimes you just need to be just more creative and assertive.

Stand proud Lao!

you said is like the previous post, talking the same thing all the time, I am sick of it, thats why i said somthing not creative ...i know that it s stupid idea, just for fun man!!relax relax
Yep, you are right and i am tired of it too in fact i want to throw up hearing it. It is very easy for you and i to say these what laos need to do that is what laos need to do. this idiot just took ideas from reading the internet took those words and post them here. If he or she has an experiences and a degree in business, in economy is ok but nam thoam thong. We have people in Laos graduated from foreign country in economy and i am sure they know more than this idiot. bla, bla, in here.

Well, brother what he said are true through . as you said there a lot of experiences and degree in business and in econonomy if the elder devil corrupted horned devil don't step to the side and let the new competent and promising one work how could they work . Also he mention about the Casino and porno stores and evey things he said, are true and the governemnt still allowed that happened. I think that this guy is not Laos the way he said and his accent and his English such rubbish,and about your rain forest and I was disappointed with what happen in Luangnamtha and the vasino, porno...etc.. So He might know more than you think , he might be the foreign officials to watch and keep aneyes on the foreign money aid how the government spending. I don't know may be I am wrong.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Soon when the elder corrupted government retired. and the young new generation take over the office.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Who are the young generation that will take over? confuse

Date: Jun 6, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Who are the young generation that will take over?

Plenty of them are waiting for the elder corrupted officials retired or die so they could do their jobs.

Date: Jun 9, 2009

Soon whenever the young generation take over the offices and the new idea will come,,,,,,

Date: Jun 9, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Until every government officials get rich....

30 yrs ago no real Laotian people were rich at least we have some now. One man rich is better than nothing . I prefer to beg as my preference rather than to get shoot by Viet. I don't feel ashame to beg foreinger for educations as long they don't kill me, kill my family,and kill all of brothers(laos). Now, I beg you more to build big hospital or big university for my Laos kids and thank you for giving them opportunities And please make sure all the moneys go to the hands of young kids. Kid is our future.

Date: Jun 9, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until every government officials get rich....

The world have been changed . Look at president Obama . He is black . 200 years agao the black people used to be slave. Any thing could happen in this world if you have hope and wonderful dream to pursue brother.

Date: Jun 9, 2009

30 yrs ago no real Laotian people were rich at least we have some now. One man rich is better than nothing . I prefer to beg as my preference rather than to get shoot by Viet. I don't feel ashame to beg foreinger for educations as long they don't kill me, kill my family,and kill all of brothers(laos). Now, I beg you more to build big hospital or big university for my Laos kids and thank you for giving them opportunities And please make sure all the moneys go to the hands of young kids. Kid is our future.

Yes, you are right but we must learn and make plans how are going to survive without the foreign aid. If we get the foreign aid, it is great if they don't give to us any more . We should be able to survive that is this issue is on about. So we must prepare to institutionalize proper taxes collection and start pratice the law. I know Lao people not use to pay taxes, I mean sell taxes, income taxes, luxury taxes, propery taxes...etc... For now without foreign aid . So we know what are going to happen . Soon we will have no more rain forest and we destroy a lot of good farm land . Also the casino, porno stores and drug problems among Lao youth are out of control.... not enough school, vaccin for children...etc... for over 30 years very slow in progress because the system laos use , don't work so it is time to change the course . So the elder corrupted officials , please step to the side and let the young one work.

Date: Jun 9, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

30 yrs ago no real Laotian people were rich at least we have some now. One man rich is better than nothing . I prefer to beg as my preference rather than to get shoot by Viet. I don't feel ashame to beg foreinger for educations as long they don't kill me, kill my family,and kill all of brothers(laos). Now, I beg you more to build big hospital or big university for my Laos kids and thank you for giving them opportunities And please make sure all the moneys go to the hands of young kids. Kid is our future.

Yes, you are right but we must learn and make plans how are going to survive without the foreign aid. If we get the foreign aid, it is great if they don't give to us any more . We should be able to survive that is this issue is on about. So we must prepare to institutionalize proper taxes collection and start pratice the law. I know Lao people not use to pay taxes, I mean sell taxes, income taxes, luxury taxes, propery taxes...etc... For now without foreign aid . So we know what are going to happen . Soon we will have no more rain forest and we destroy a lot of good farm land . Also the casino, porno stores and drug problems among Lao youth are out of control.... not enough school, vaccin for children...etc... for over 30 years very slow in progress because the system laos use , don't work so it is time to change the course . So the elder corrupted officials , please step to the side and let the young one work.

When you are too nice,you careless about the look and education. This is one of the reason that make Laos people grow very slow. And also they're not brave enough to turn or hurt each other feeling. But they have a gutt to destroy their own country. Corruption or jealousy is one of example. Anyway,I know Laotian people are smart.

Date: Jun 12, 2009

Education is the key. Start from the begining when young kids have been taught well and get good education so there won't be no corruption and drug problems . There wiil be more skill workers and smart trade...etc...Education is they key for every things......

Date: Jun 12, 2009

Education is the key for Laos to get out from foreign aid but education need money so laos need aid .

Date: Aug 9, 2009

nothing is wrong with accepting foreign aid that will help those who need them. i just hope this doesn't "enrich" the pocket of the very few but will be given to the real needy ones...

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2009/08/ancient-siam-around-thailand-in-day.html

Date: Aug 9, 2009

to khon thakek . i just want to ask you what's the different between small arm [ m16 , AK 47] landmine and kilo of opium ? all those thing causing human misery all over the world . why one would considerate illegal and one it's not ? m16 , AK47 target the poor but benefit the rich . opium target the rich and benefit the poor.

Date: Oct 17, 2009

Laos will need foreign a until the new generation take over the offices.

Date: Oct 18, 2009

As long as USA and Russia still have to borrow money from China, then LAO still needs help from rich countries biggrin

Date: Oct 18, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any planes that will make laos to be able to stand by her own feet ?

Let the Chinese build more casino!