Thailand to propose Thai-Lao ancient cities to be joint world heritage

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Thailand to propose Thai-Lao ancient cities to be joint world heritage

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

BANGKOK, June 3 (Xinhua) -- Thailand will nominate the ancient Thai city of Chiang Saen and the companion Lao city of Suvannakhomkham to the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) for jointly listing of world heritage sites, Thai News Agency reported.
    The news agency quoted Thai Culture Minister Teera Slukpetch assaying that the trans-boundary archaeological urban complex of Chiang Saen and Suvannakhomkham, with a history of about 500-600 years, is at the Mekong River gateway, where the recursors of today's Thailand and the Laos absorbed the Chinese and Indian cultures, and developed their own unique cultures long ago.
    The ministry also plans to nominate four other historic sites for consideration by UNESCO next year.
    The other four heritage sites are the Srivichaya cultural heritage in the south, Lanna culture in the north, the culture of the central region along the Chao Phraya River and distinctive architecture of Prince Narisara Nuvativongse in the Rattanakosin Period.

That will be very good project that will bring the relationship and good freindship and heal the wound from the pass. Matter of fact Lao and Thai have too may things simalar such as culture, religion and almost the words we understend each other unlike Burma, Chinese, Vietnam, cambodia and falang. and I guess, we suppose to be brother back in time. So I am Lao , I have been taught about the Siamese that made me up set and angry to the siamese people so I forgive them but I will never forget what they had done the Laos and hope the time will make all people change. All Lao nork who don't need Thai aid that would be hard for them to forget but they forve the Siamese . Lao nai would be easier to forgive and forget beacause Thailand give them aid a lot .Even the food and economy are affect between Lao and Thai. Lao need a lot of help from Thailand. The people who show hate to Thai most of them are Lao nork who no need help for Thailand I guess.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

We must give it try we have to learn to forgive but we will never forget .
It is hard for Lao nork I know because the parents teach too much hate to Siamese more that Lao nai.

It is easier for Lao nai to forgive the Siamese because they watch Thai Lakorn and some cross the Mekong river to work in Thailand and the parents have no time to teach their kids more hate when they still need help and aid from Thailand . Only the Thai from Bang Bok who are rich and race and discriminate again the Lao worker in Thailand and look down on Lao people. So Lao nork 100% they hate Thai.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

i agree. Kon Thai is 2 face...

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

          We must give it try we have to learn to forgive but we will never forget .
        It is hard for Lao nork I know because the parents teach too much hate to Siamese more that Lao nai.

         It is easier for Lao nai to forgive the Siamese because they watch Thai Lakorn and some cross the Mekong river to work in Thailand and the parents have no time to teach their kids more hate when they still need help and aid from Thailand . Only the Thai from Bang Bok who are rich and race and discriminate again the Lao worker in Thailand and look down on Lao people. So Lao nork 100% they hate Thai.

Lao nork don't care about Thai Lakorn and don't watch Thai TV show and they think that they are as good or better than Thai in the US , Canada < Australia and abraod so they hate Thai because of the painful history that Thai stole Pra Kea Morrakot and burnd down Vientiane and took and raped Lao women and brought a lot of Lao people to be slaves and grow rice and farm for Siam for over 100 years. For Lao nai still need Thai help and they don't show their hate and willing to forgive and forget.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

You are right.

I remember Ban Romklao in 1989 when they try to steal more land from Laos.

We trust them but they always try to steal from us.

khonthakek · Guru

fang Khuam thai fai mai lao khao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Jun 4, 2009

I say no. Laos should submit Souvannakhomkham independently from the Thai. I've been to both Thai cultural heritage sites of Ayuthaya and Sukhothai and I can definitely say that they are not as genuine as Wat Phou in Champassak. The Fine Art Department (Khum Sirapakorn) who is in charge of the Thai site, has done a poor job at reconstruction of the ruins and there is too much commercial development within or near the these ruins. The people that support Lao protecting Wat Phou are world class archeologists from Italy, Japan, etc and they have a greater understanding of how to manage these structures.

Let's get the right experts into Souvannakhomkham and perserve it as a truly educational and enchanting place that will will deserved a Unesco World Heritage Listing.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

i agree. Kon Thai is 2 face...

I agree with you... I think we should identify our culture not to mix up with thai culture....

Destined · Senior Member

im glad to see every one is on the same page, i agree we should identify our own culture and let the world know laos,,

and by the way wouldnt that land be laos anyways, that city is just across the mekong river and as most of us know much of thailand use to belong to laos the only reason the "thai city" would be recomended to be a world heritage site was because it was laos. so i say dont share with them it was ours to begin with.

lao stand tall.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

Never trust the Thai people? Never trust never trust but why your mother father bare their hands to receiving aid funds every years, educations, Medicals, roads, railways and you know well why Lao tourism is very low right now as Thailand got political problem and world financial crisis and no tourist come to Thailand then no tourist come to Lao as well.

If you never trust Thai then when you come back to Lao. I cursed you if you stop over or transit in Bangkok or any airport of Thailand and if you are using anything which is MADE IN THAILAND. I cursed you and all members of your family all horrified dead one by one in just one year. สาธุ

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Destined wrote:

im glad to see every one is on the same page, i agree we should identify our own culture and let the world know laos,,

and by the way wouldnt that land be laos anyways, that city is just across the mekong river and as most of us know much of thailand use to belong to laos the only reason the "thai city" would be recomended to be a world heritage site was because it was laos. so i say dont share with them it was ours to begin with.

lao stand tall.

Don't show your stupid brain. Lao is lower class since the ancient time till today and tomorrow too. Lao have hands and legs but no brain.

Did you really know about the history? อย่าโชว์โง่ ขอร้องเถอะ ไอ้ควายลาวเอ้ย

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Thai people in the US also see Lao people in the US as dogs same set of humanity level of Cambodia, Burma, Vietnam and Indonesia.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Thai people in the US also see Lao people in the US as dogs same set of humanity level of Cambodia, Burma, Vietnam and Indonesia.

Thai people who live in the US most of them are from riches families but Lao living in the US living there as a "REFUGEE" and repeat.. "Refugee" that's why Lao nok hate Thai so much because they are neighbor but why different

Date: Jun 4, 2009

khonthakek wrote:

fang Khuam thai fai mai lao khao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you say is true. I never trust them. This people "na wai lang log".

Date: Jun 4, 2009

SOON THIS TOPIC WILL BE CLOSED

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

khonthakek wrote:

fang Khuam thai fai mai lao khao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you say is true. I never trust them. This people "na wai lang log".

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Date: Jun 4, 2009

Destined wrote:

im glad to see every one is on the same page, i agree we should identify our own culture and let the world know laos,,

and by the way wouldnt that land be laos anyways, that city is just across the mekong river and as most of us know much of thailand use to belong to laos the only reason the "thai city" would be recomended to be a world heritage site was because it was laos. so i say dont share with them it was ours to begin with.

lao stand tall.

Man Leow. We nice to them they steal from us.

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

you right. thai is very danger for lao

Date: Jun 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Destined wrote:

im glad to see every one is on the same page, i agree we should identify our own culture and let the world know laos,,

and by the way wouldnt that land be laos anyways, that city is just across the mekong river and as most of us know much of thailand use to belong to laos the only reason the "thai city" would be recomended to be a world heritage site was because it was laos. so i say dont share with them it was ours to begin with.

lao stand tall.

Man Leow. We nice to them they steal from us.

Please don't show to Thai people that we are stupid. If you have any evidences to clear in what you have said. Please show it. I want to see is it really true or just just trying to make Lao-Thai hate each other while you are not living in Lao or in Thailand.

Come on... Lao want to be in peace. Lao don't want Laonok doing some idiot things in here. Say something which is reality and not to vilify to others. OK?

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

you right. thai is very danger for lao

Just don't trust them Thai has so many tricks and so sweet and when Laos trust them , they will stab Laos in the back. So don't let the history repeat again . We don't want to be vitim again.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

I say no. Laos should submit Souvannakhomkham independently from the Thai. I've been to both Thai cultural heritage sites of Ayuthaya and Sukhothai and I can definitely say that they are not as genuine as Wat Phou in Champassak. The Fine Art Department (Khum Sirapakorn) who is in charge of the Thai site, has done a poor job at reconstruction of the ruins and there is too much commercial development within or near the these ruins. The people that support Lao protecting Wat Phou are world class archeologists from Italy, Japan, etc and they have a greater understanding of how to manage these structures.

Let's get the right experts into Souvannakhomkham and perserve it as a truly educational and enchanting place that will will deserved a Unesco World Heritage Listing.

I totally agreed with you. I don't really see the point that Souvannakhomkham have to join with Chiang Saen. But if Laos want the ancient city as a separate World Heritage, we have to get more researchers to support that Souvannakhomkham is distinctive. Like right now the temples are really in bad condition and artefacts are looted. Lao people should pay attention in preserving these heritage.

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Date: Jun 5, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a bad idea. Never trust the Thai people.

you right. thai is very danger for lao

Just don't trust them Thai has so many tricks and so sweet and when Laos trust them , they will stab Laos in the back. So don't let the history repeat again . We don't want to be vitim again.

That is correct. We lose everyting becase we trust Thai.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

I say no. Laos should submit Souvannakhomkham independently from the Thai. I've been to both Thai cultural heritage sites of Ayuthaya and Sukhothai and I can definitely say that they are not as genuine as Wat Phou in Champassak. The Fine Art Department (Khum Sirapakorn) who is in charge of the Thai site, has done a poor job at reconstruction of the ruins and there is too much commercial development within or near the these ruins. The people that support Lao protecting Wat Phou are world class archeologists from Italy, Japan, etc and they have a greater understanding of how to manage these structures.

Let's get the right experts into Souvannakhomkham and perserve it as a truly educational and enchanting place that will will deserved a Unesco World Heritage Listing.

Tell the true please. Wat Pu was founded in Khmer period whic is different from Sukhothai and Ayuthaya period. You know nothing. Why Ayuthaya ancient city was surrounded by housing of people. They live there long time already since earlier of Ratanakosin period already before they announce to be the world heritage sight. Different from Wat Pu which is in the moutain area. Ayuthaya was the capital and ofcos there must have big community there. Different from Wat Pu was just an Hindu temple for the Khmer royal family or the local ruler at that period.

After Khmer fall for Siam then nobody take care of Wat Pu and become ruin becos no community around there.

If you said : The people that support Lao protecting Wat Phou are world class archeologists from Italy, Japan, etc and they have a greater understanding of how to manage these structures. Seem to be Lao people have no brain or no education to rebuilding it as using other nation like Falang or Japanese to recontruction. Ofcos Lao no have money to rebuilt it. Lao was poor at that time till today and tomorrow still.

Date: Jun 5, 2009

The Thai in here speaking like a true Thai, uneducated, errogant to the bone. The insults they're throwing at khon Laos are ouraged and unforgiveable. Peenong Laos please do not give these low class, small minded Thai your valueable time of the day. While Laos maybe less developed than Thai now but Laos will progress in her own pace and one day Laos will be a one of the great economic in southeast asia. I am Laos living in the United States of America. I have no problem with the Thai but I am very sad at all unnecessary insults throw at all the Laos by these few Thai.