Anyone with a good heart

Ganda · Senior Member

Anyone with a good heart

khonthakek · Guru

thanks ganda for caring about poor kids in Laos, especially disable kid show in the photos, how to help, how to find this kid and how to donate the money?

Ganda · Senior Member

khonthakek wrote:

thanks ganda for caring about poor kids in Laos, especially disable kid show in the photos, how to help, how to find this kid and how to donate the money?

I'll check my notes Khontakhek to recall his exact location. Ive been in several places there and a bit confused at the moment which place I encountered him. In fact in the same place there is also a little girl who got paralyzed but hers was temporary. So I hope by this time she's fully recovered.

I'll try to post location tomorrow. But if I remember it right, I think his place is only a little more than an hour away from the provicial hospital. With regards to your question on how to place the donation, as Ive said it would be difficult for me to facilitate since Im no longer in Laos. But maybe the DREAMER can facilitate as I believe he is based in VNT? am I right? If not, I can post here the photo of one of the staff at the provincial health office who accompanied me during this visit. if there's anybody from Xienkhouang can go there and look for her, she will most likely rememebr the place.

This is the most that I can do. Here is the photo of the provincial health staff.

-- Edited by samakomlao on Wednesday 26th of August 2009 07:48:40 AM

Date: Jul 31, 2009

Dear Ganda,

May I suggest you try contacting COPE Laos www.copelaos.org. See if you can get hold of a lady named Jo Pereira. Think that organisation is a trusthworthy one that will know the right contacts in Laos to organise/faciliate this. They might even be able to do something about his condition (because he's still young), or at least get him fitted for a proper wheelchair (one that doesn't fit well can cause future problems). Thanks for highlighting his case.

Ganda · Senior Member

Since were already into this, I might as well keep the ball rolling. Here is another kid who desperately needs help. When we saw him he's really in a bad shape and full of helplessness. His family's poor, no one takes care of him because both parents have to work on the field to put food on the table. He's not receiving medical care at all; his wounds are proof. We think infection already reached his bones and prognosis is poor. I doubt if he made it to this date. We left some money for them to buy antibiotics but we dont have enough that time. So if ever they use it to buy medicine at all it would only cover several days. He also lives in Xienghouang but in a more remote place, about 4-5 hours from the provincial center (again I dont have my notes with me so I cant give exact place).

So Instead of filling this forum with "stupid" word (I mean Ive read it in many posts, it seems this is the most widely used word) why not channel our energies into action. I can contact COPE, yes. But what Im expecting to see is Lao who will say "OK ill take charge... I volunteer to contact them."

Please I dont mean to offend anyone. But this could be a great opportunity to show that you truly care. As Samakomlao said "united we stand divided we die." But are we just going to let this poor kid die?!?!

-- Edited by Ganda on Friday 31st of July 2009 11:44:51 AM

-- Edited by samakomlao on Wednesday 26th of August 2009 07:49:15 AM

Anonymous · Member

If you set_up the fund or know how can we can help this boy please post as soon as possible, together we have hope to save him...Thank you for your good heart.

Date: Aug 1, 2009

I will help them too.

Ganda · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

If you set_up the fund or know how can we can help this boy please post as soon as possible, together we have hope to save him...Thank you for your good heart.

I will help them too.
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Are you guys really serious in helping these kids? If you are well that's very nice of you. Aren't you based in Laos? Im now trying to contact some persons in Laos who could coordinate the donation. Im still waiting for their reply though. If someone's from my colleagues is willing to facilitate I will get back to you through here and give you my email so we can make final arrangements. Im still digging to my files and asking colleagues as well to find out kid's exact location.

Cheers!

Date: Aug 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

If you set_up the fund or know how can we can help this boy please post as soon as possible, together we have hope to save him...Thank you for your good heart.

Hi. I have a friend in VNT who is willing to coordinate the donation if you are really serious about this. But I think It would be best if the donation is a wheelchair for the first kid. Its ok if you wan to donate money but I cant assure you that if it reach the family they will use it to buy wheelchair. I mean they might give priority to buy basic commodities. If you decide to donate a wheelchair and could send it directly to the provincial health office in Xienkhouang, its better then we'll just advise the staff to deliver it to the kid. For the second child, I need to coordinate further as the child lives very far from the provincial center, very remote area and rough road. She may need budget for transportation. Since we will only ask her a favor, I dont expect her to make an out of pocket expense to travel because she herself is not earning that much.

Please email me at dequirozm@yahoo.com for any query. I'll give you the contact information. Note that Im not in Laos so cant personally facilitate. Thanks!

Ganda · Senior Member

Two have already made pledge. If there is anyone else who would like to help please email me at the address posted on this thread. Good luck!

Date: Aug 9, 2009

what is the name of the person that you post her pic? my mom need her name so she can ask her where that boy locat?.

Date: Aug 9, 2009

You are such awonderful person! Thank you I already read your email and will make a reply soon. THis really gets the ball rolling. Khob jai lai lai for support!

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

GANDA smile

Date: Aug 9, 2009

It will be very useful if you give us his name and address( name of village, name of city) or phone number of lacal official who can cotact him.

Ganda · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

It will be very useful if you give us his name and address( name of village, name of city) or phone number of lacal official who can cotact him.

Okey I already got the name of the second child, the one with infected wounds. He is Khampheu, 14 years old, living at Phonthom Village, Thathom District, Xiengkhouang. The first child, lame boy, I still working to locate him.... please see other topic you might be able to help me trace him. I cannot give his name only the name of child who is his neighbor because she is the original purpose of our visit. I just saw the lame boy on the way out of the village after we finished our visit with the other child.

I will keep everyone posted. Anyone who is willing to help please send message to my email. In case you are in Laos and would like to help the boys directly, that would be great and very fine with me. But in anyway, please do inform me.

Khob jai lai lai!!!! aww

Date: Aug 9, 2009

You can contact Thao Sengouthone, The souperviser of Lao Disable People Association of Xienkhouang District. He can take your love heart to this boy.

Phone # 020-566 1075

Date: Aug 9, 2009

Does he live in Namouang village or Nathong Village?

Ganda · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Does he live in Namouang village or Nathong Village?

Namouang sounds more familiar that the other.

Ganda · Senior Member

Wow this is like a puzzle that is finally solved. I apologize for my rusted memory (but Im still young, dont get me wrong.. ha ha ha). Now I manage to recall where I found those kids. I repeatedly say to myself the name of the 2 villages on the sign and I reckon that the way the village names were pronounced was very nasal and its like the "th" is eaten. So Im now positive that their residences are:

boy #1 - paralyzed with callused knee
name: Unknown but has a little girl neighbor named Cai or Kai.
Village: Ban Nathong
District: Kham
Province: Xiengkhouang

boy #2 - paralyzed and has several infected bed sores (wounds)
name: Khampheu
Village: Ban Phonthom
District: Thathom
Province: Xiengkhouang
Age: 14 years old

Village Name	OR	District
NaOung	Nathong	Kham
PhoneHom	Phonthom	Thathom

The only thing left is the name of the lady health worker who was with me during the field visits. She will make it easier to trace exact location of the kids. But I will also post photos of the villages and the houses where they live to facilitate faster tracing.

There is also a trusted NGO that already expressed willingness to facilitate the donation and details will be posted as soon as plan is clear with me. So far only 5 people have made pledges/ assistance: 2 monetary (total $60 so far which is insufficient), 1 medical supplies, 1 to assist possible treatment, 1 assisting coordination. They are all great!

I hope more will come forward to help. Again please feel free to email me for any query or offer of help. I know people would prefer to be anonymous and I respect that.

Khob jai lai lai!!!!

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In this battle called life... no one is a winner or a loser.... we are all survivors!

-- Edited by samakomlao on Wednesday 26th of August 2009 07:50:13 AM

Date: Aug 14, 2009

Hmm anymore response from people interested to help?

Date: Aug 14, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Hmm anymore response from people interested to help?

hey my mom in oudome xay now, not know when she will be in xieng khuang.

Date: Aug 14, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Hmm anymore response from people interested to help?

hey my mom in oudome xay now, not know when she will be in xieng khuang.

The name of the lady is Mrs. Somsanith, Provincial Surveillance staff of Xiengkhouang. She knows where to find the boy. If you like to send help directly, through your mom, please contact her directly so she can show the way. Thatom is very far though I hope she will have no problem traveling. Thank you!

Ganda

Ganda · Senior Member

Straycat in case you read this, please I need your reply to my last email. Looking forward...

Ganda · Senior Member

Hi Straycat, any news from COPE? Need to update others, they might be waiting. Just give me a go and I'll send email directly. Thank a lot!!!! smile

Ganda · Senior Member

Thanks for all the help straycat. You are heaven sent! biggrin

Date: Aug 19, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

You can contact Thao Sengouthone, The souperviser of Lao Disable People Association of Xienkhouang District. He can take your love heart to this boy.
Phone # 020-566 1075

Thank you for sharing this. I'll keep it in mind. Currently were communicating with COPE Laos, and agency that provides prosthesis to UXO victims. Though, the lameboy is not a victim, they pledge to support to be able to provide an equipment for the kid.

GANDA

straycat · Newbie

for the boy with sores...

Thathom area is right at the edge of XK province near Bolikhamxay province, roughly 100km from Phonsavanh. don't know how bad the road to Thathom can be during rainy season.
the sores will take months to heal, provided sacral bone hasn't been affected, if it is, will be more complicated.
transferring him to hospital means someone from his family must go along to take care of him 24/7 = one less person to work at home/harvest rice/etc (potential loss of family income) + 2 people's expenses for food in town.

still waiting for reply from doctor friend who has more experience with such sores...common in bedridden elderly.

btw Ganda you can just email me directly. always check my email even though don't always have time to reply immediately. otherwise people on this forum will wonder why you're meowing for a cat to respond :P

Date: Aug 20, 2009

straycat wrote:
for the boy with sores...
Thathom area is right at the edge of XK province near Bolikhamxay province, roughly 100km from Phonsavanh. don't know how bad the road to Thathom can be during rainy season.
the sores will take months to heal, provided sacral bone hasn't been affected, if it is, will be more complicated.
transferring him to hospital means someone from his family must go along to take care of him 24/7 = one less person to work at home/harvest rice/etc (potential loss of family income) + 2 people's expenses for food in town.
still waiting for reply from doctor friend who has more experience with such sores...common in bedridden elderly.

btw Ganda you can just email me directly. always check my email even though don't always have time to reply immediately. otherwise people on this forum will wonder why you're meowing for a cat to respond :P

555555 BUT YOU ARE SPECIAL CAT FOR THOSE KIDS, FOR ME TOO 5555. THANKS DER CAT YOU ARE A NICE PERSON WE CAN COUNT ON. AND FOR GANDA, THANKYOU FOR GOOD HEART. BUDDHA BLESSS YOU. AND CAT TOO.

Date: Aug 20, 2009

straycat wrote:

for the boy with sores...
Thathom area is right at the edge of XK province near Bolikhamxay province, roughly 100km from Phonsavanh. don't know how bad the road to Thathom can be during rainy season.
the sores will take months to heal, provided sacral bone hasn't been affected, if it is, will be more complicated.
transferring him to hospital means someone from his family must go along to take care of him 24/7 = one less person to work at home/harvest rice/etc (potential loss of family income) + 2 people's expenses for food in town.
still waiting for reply from doctor friend who has more experience with such sores...common in bedridden elderly.

btw Ganda you can just email me directly. always check my email even though don't always have time to reply immediately. otherwise people on this forum will wonder why you're meowing for a cat to respond :P

Yup my dear furry cat, I thought about that too, that is why Im thinking to direct all monetary donation (however little it is) instead to him since COPE can provide already what I ask for the lame boy. Im just waiting for one more email then I can go.

I doubt if our dear brothers and sisters here mind me meowing to you once in a while, for a change. wink

Its my way of letting them know that despite my long silence, something is going on in the background. Im really serious in helping those kids and I hope these guys here will contribute.

Take care Strycat and please dont stray too much, Ganda here does not want to miss you! biggrin

Ganda

KAONIAW · Senior Member

GANDA wrote:

straycat wrote:

for the boy with sores...
Thathom area is right at the edge of XK province near Bolikhamxay province, roughly 100km from Phonsavanh. don't know how bad the road to Thathom can be during rainy season.
the sores will take months to heal, provided sacral bone hasn't been affected, if it is, will be more complicated.
transferring him to hospital means someone from his family must go along to take care of him 24/7 = one less person to work at home/harvest rice/etc (potential loss of family income) + 2 people's expenses for food in town.
still waiting for reply from doctor friend who has more experience with such sores...common in bedridden elderly.

btw Ganda you can just email me directly. always check my email even though don't always have time to reply immediately. otherwise people on this forum will wonder why you're meowing for a cat to respond :P
Yup my dear furry cat, I thought about that too, that is why Im thinking to direct all monetary donation (however little it is) instead to him since COPE can provide already what I ask for the lame boy. Im just waiting for one more email then I can go.

I doubt if our dear brothers and sisters here mind me meowing to you once in a while, for a change. Its my way of letting them know that despite my long silence, something is going on in the background. Im really serious in helping those kids and I hope these guys here will contribute.

Take care Strycat and please dont stray too much, Ganda here does not want to miss you!

Ganda

Just thinking out loud, wouldn't it be nice to have a business in Laos. Some of the profits will go toward helping these kids. That the help will never stop pouring in for these people?

Date: Aug 20, 2009

KAONIAW wrote:

GANDA wrote:

straycat wrote:

for the boy with sores...
Thathom area is right at the edge of XK province near Bolikhamxay province, roughly 100km from Phonsavanh. don't know how bad the road to Thathom can be during rainy season.
the sores will take months to heal, provided sacral bone hasn't been affected, if it is, will be more complicated.
transferring him to hospital means someone from his family must go along to take care of him 24/7 = one less person to work at home/harvest rice/etc (potential loss of family income) + 2 people's expenses for food in town.
still waiting for reply from doctor friend who has more experience with such sores...common in bedridden elderly.

btw Ganda you can just email me directly. always check my email even though don't always have time to reply immediately. otherwise people on this forum will wonder why you're meowing for a cat to respond :P
Yup my dear furry cat, I thought about that too, that is why Im thinking to direct all monetary donation (however little it is) instead to him since COPE can provide already what I ask for the lame boy. Im just waiting for one more email then I can go.

I doubt if our dear brothers and sisters here mind me meowing to you once in a while, for a change. Its my way of letting them know that despite my long silence, something is going on in the background. Im really serious in helping those kids and I hope these guys here will contribute.

Take care Strycat and please dont stray too much, Ganda here does not want to miss you!

Ganda

Just thinking out loud, wouldn't it be nice to have a business in Laos. Some of the profits will go toward helping these kids. That the help will never stop pouring in for these people?

I think its a good thing to do Kaniaow. Im not so familiar with how this things go in Laos, but in my country if you're a businessman (or even those who are not) you can create a foundation where a portion of your earnings go to it and the accumulated funds are used to help who ever is the beneficiary for whatevet purpose. For example, if the thrust is for education, it can be use to buy school supplies for students of certain target school, or use to buy text books, new tables, chairs etc for the school, of if bigh enough can be for the renovation. Then, if foundation is certified, it gets a certain percentage of tax exemption. I used to be an evaluator for qualifying foundations for such exemption. But maybe in Laos this wont work, but Im sure many are creative enough to find other ways to help. This is just my little contribution but as Ive mentioned earlier, I would be very happy if its Laos helping fellow Lao. This way you can show that Lao is capable of standing on your own feet, no matter how small they think are the efforts. It could be a good start, dont you think so?

Ganda · Senior Member

Hi Cat! Hope you will hear my meowing. The boy with sore is actually closer and more accessible to reach if coming by car from the direction of VNT to Thathom than from Xiengkhouang proper. But im not too familiar with the roads in Laos since (1) I cant read Lao, (2) the driver and the lady cant speak english, and (3) Im always sleeping while on the road biggrin walking up only when when my friend will poke me to look at the nice view or when the roads gets too bumpy for me to continue my day dreaming. aww But from town proper of Xiengkhouang to Thathom district road is good then becomes more dusty and bumpy. Then once we reached the public market of Thathom district we only continued driving for a while then we had to leave the car because it could not fit into the narrow bridge that will bring you to the otehr side of the river and on the road going to Phontom Village. We hired a toktok (im not sure if this is right word) or that motorized vehicle that is qute noisy and usually used in the country side to deliver goods to town. From there the road becomes literally rocky and bumpy all the way to his house.

Its a poor village where many kids are out of school because they need to help in the field to get some food on the table. SO transportation will be costly, unless the road from VNT is taken instead. But if the lady is needed as guide, then there is no choice but to come to provincial office first.

If there is anything, please return the meow, OK. wink

Date: Oct 1, 2009

I just want to let people who follow this thread to know that I got a message this afternoon from a Laotian who took extra mile to find out the status of the boys in Xiengkhouang in his/her desire to help. Below is an excerpt from the email message:

“I tried to contact Mr. Seng... in order to get information of the poor boy, khampheu. Through many channels I finally found that the boy passed away before I arrived Laos, around August ;(. It was so bad to hear the news, the guy named Sengt... tell me that there were some people from abroad helped them for the funeral ceremony. May he leave peacefully.”

It was a sad message but it made me feel grief and joy at the same time. Grief for learning that the boy did not make it; Joy for learning that those people who made their pledge really extended their help, including the sender of this message. My heartfelt condolences to Khampeus family and loved ones. My deepest gratitude to those people who help! Laos should be proud of you!

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footballer · Senior Member

I'm not an officer or a prime mover of this project. I just want to help my friend to spread the news of its existence and let its good deeds be known, especially among Laotian.

Just liking the page as a sign of support is sufficient. If you have the time and read on its wall you can find its small scale but life-changing accomplishments. If in anyway those previous activities inspired you to support/ donate... I'm sure it will be highly appreciated by the organizers.

PS @ Cat: this is the brainchild of project "Kurvi" the paralyzed boy whom you helped so that now he can move around.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Who-have-hearts/211957518835243

In behalf of Who Have Heart, many thanks for your support!

Who have hearts
A group of young Lao volunteers for supporting disable people and primary school students in rural Laos.
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