Lao-American listed on the Endangered Species List

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao-American listed on the Endangered Species List

Date: Oct 28, 2009

THat's very good news.
Thank you for sharing

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Not here and their ?

It should be "here and there"

Date: Oct 28, 2009

not are their in the US?

are there in the US.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao-American will be culturally and identity extinct within the next generation. Their community leaders, particularly the Lao Patikan failed to educated the children in the Lao culture, literature and religion. The number of young Lao-American that can read, write and speak Lao is very low.

Collectively, there is no leadership or guidance to preserve their Lao heritage. Aside from a handful of dedicated individual efforts. The Lao-American elders are so demoralized and hopelessness.

Often time we see some Patikan's inflamatory outburst here and their to express their hopelessness and disillusion state of mind. They would often time accused the Lao PDR of failure to creates enough jobs for its citizens and criticized the Lao PDR's educational system.

In reality it is the Patikan that failured the Lao Diaspora community in the United States. What have they done for the Lao Community in the US in term of job creation and educating the children. How many Lao language school are their in the US? The Chinese, Japanese and Jewish they are have their private school to educate their children in their cultures and languages.

Despite their handicap and inability to lead the community, these shameless Patikan have the audacity to criticize and accuses the Lao PDR of failing to lead its citizens.

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

Poor if not Bad English writing.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao-American will be culturally and identity extinct within the next generation. Their community leaders, particularly the Lao Patikan failed to educated the children in the Lao culture, literature and religion. The number of young Lao-American that can read, write and speak Lao is very low.

Collectively, there is no leadership or guidance to preserve their Lao heritage. Aside from a handful of dedicated individual efforts. The Lao-American elders are so demoralized and hopelessness.

Often time we see some Patikan's inflamatory outburst here and their to express their hopelessness and disillusion state of mind. They would often time accused the Lao PDR of failure to creates enough jobs for its citizens and criticized the Lao PDR's educational system.

In reality it is the Patikan that failured the Lao Diaspora community in the United States. What have they done for the Lao Community in the US in term of job creation and educating the children. How many Lao language school are their in the US? The Chinese, Japanese and Jewish they are have their private school to educate their children in their cultures and languages.

Despite their handicap and inability to lead the community, these shameless Patikan have the audacity to criticize and accuses the Lao PDR of failing to lead its citizens.

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

Hey Lao-Dong, you need to stop talking with your mouthfull and empty stomach, ok.

bip_01 · Senior Member

Where is your source? Looks like you decided to write the article yourself. Poorly written and is very bias. Nice try.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao-American will be culturally and identity extinct within the next generation. Their community leaders, particularly the Lao Patikan failed to educated the children in the Lao culture, literature and religion. The number of young Lao-American that can read, write and speak Lao is very low.

Collectively, there is no leadership or guidance to preserve their Lao heritage. Aside from a handful of dedicated individual efforts. The Lao-American elders are so demoralized and hopelessness.

Often time we see some Patikan's inflamatory outburst here and their to express their hopelessness and disillusion state of mind. They would often time accused the Lao PDR of failure to creates enough jobs for its citizens and criticized the Lao PDR's educational system.

In reality it is the Patikan that failured the Lao Diaspora community in the United States. What have they done for the Lao Community in the US in term of job creation and educating the children. How many Lao language school are their in the US? The Chinese, Japanese and Jewish they are have their private school to educate their children in their cultures and languages.

Despite their handicap and inability to lead the community, these shameless Patikan have the audacity to criticize and accuses the Lao PDR of failing to lead its citizens.

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

Wow ! there are a lot of hatred in you , brother. All Lao refugee who fled Laos and turn their from the violent and war and looking for better living and freedom . So those people who love to see laos to be better living and to have good education, good health care, jobs , good justice system and equal opportunity so those people are patikan to you brother. How dare you accussed Lao American and Lao not protecting Lao culture and religion . so please , have a look at these video and tell me that Lao American don't protect Lao culture and religion.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao-American children do learn how to read / write Lao language,culture, and preserved their heritage.

This was built by Lao-Americans hard earned money, from foreign aids

Can Lao PDR enplane this please? I'm very concerned about Lao kids in Laos.
Where are the authorities and their parents?

Date: Oct 28, 2009

I meant to say the temple shown on this page was built by Lao-American hard earned money and not from foreign aid.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

I meant to say the temple shown on this page was built by Lao-American hard earned money and not from foreign aid.

What ever it is , there are a lot of hatred in you. So you have to open your mind and compromise a little bit or go and get a professional mental help to let the hatred get out of your system. May be life will be great and world will be wonderful for you.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao kid who are you referring me ( Lao-American )of what I said about the Lao temple was built from our hard earned money not from foreign aid?

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao kid who are you referring me ( Lao-American )of what I said about the Lao temple was built from our hard earned money not from foreign aid?

sorry I suppose to click on reply , I made mistake click on Quote. sorry

Date: Oct 28, 2009

This is for someone who post this post

What ever it is , there are a lot of hatred in you. So you have to open your mind and compromise a little bit or go and get a professional mental help to let the hatred get out of your system. May be life will be great and world will be wonderful for you

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao kid wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lao kid who are you referring me ( Lao-American )of what I said about the Lao temple was built from our hard earned money not from foreign aid?

sorry I suppose to click on reply , I made mistake click on Quote. sorry

Well taken. Lao-American smile

Date: Oct 28, 2009

http://hmongstudies.org/Hmong-AmericanandLao-AmericanStudiesPresentation.pdfLao-Americans in2005 American Community Survey• Median Age – 29.1 Years (Compared to 36.4 among all Americans)

• Period of Arrival (Foreign-Born) – 85.0% Before 1990, 11.3% between 1990-1999, 3.7% after

2000

• Median Family Income – $52,248 (Compared to $55,832 U.S.)

• Employment in Manufacturing – 39.6% (Compared to 11.9% of all Americans in the labor force

over 16)

• Higher Education – 9.2% Bachelor’s Degree (Compared to 17.2% of all Americans over 25)

• Poverty Rate – 13.9% (Compared to 10.2% among all U.S. Families)

• Homeownership Rate – 61.9% (Compared to 67% among all U.S. Households)

• Divorce Rate – 6.3% (Compared to 10.2% among all Americans over age 15)

• English Fluency – 45.6% speak English “Less than Very Well”

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

http://hmongstudies.org/Hmong-AmericanandLao-AmericanStudiesPresentation.pdfLao-Americans in2005 American Community Survey• Median Age – 29.1 Years (Compared to 36.4 among all Americans)
• Period of Arrival (Foreign-Born) – 85.0% Before 1990, 11.3% between 1990-1999, 3.7% after
2000
• Median Family Income – $52,248 (Compared to $55,832 U.S.)
• Employment in Manufacturing – 39.6% (Compared to 11.9% of all Americans in the labor force
over 16)
• Higher Education – 9.2% Bachelor’s Degree (Compared to 17.2% of all Americans over 25)
• Poverty Rate – 13.9% (Compared to 10.2% among all U.S. Families)
• Homeownership Rate – 61.9% (Compared to 67% among all U.S. Households)
• Divorce Rate – 6.3% (Compared to 10.2% among all Americans over age 15)
• English Fluency – 45.6% speak English “Less than Very Well”

Is this survey on Lao- American conducted by Hmong Organization?

Date: Oct 28, 2009

API Diversity - About The Myth of Model Minority - This perception holds that API represents a "model minority" who have achieved success in a relatively short period of time through their exemplary commitment to family values, thrift, educational achievement, and a strong work ethnics (Lee, 1996; Kitano & Sue, 1973) "One direct consequence of the model minority myth is that government funding and social service agencies often overlook APIs..."

Education - In 1990, 55% of Hmong, 41% of Cambodian, and 34% of Lao immigrants had not completed the equilavent of the 5th grade....and only 7% of Lao American completed college compare to the National Avg of 21% (Sok, 2001)

1990 Poverty Rate, National Avg 10%, Laotian American 67%!!!

API Youth at Risk - FBI data (1997) U.S. API population grew from 3.7 million in 1980 to 10.2 million in 2000. API arrests in the U.S. increased 726% between 1977 and 1997. 1990 San Francisco and Oakland Laotian juvenile arrests are found on Table III.

http://www.yvpcenter.org/media/docs/5861_agenda_for_positive_action.pdf

The National Council on Crime and Delinquency & The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation Symposium

Asian Pacific Islander Youth Violence Prevention Center

We must be the change we wish to see.
--M.K. Gandhi
There are only two rules to change: One is to begin; the second is to continue.
--unknown
People don't care how much you know, unless they know how much you care.
--Anonymous
Teamwork allows common people to attain uncommon results.

Mr. Sourichanh Chanthyasack

San Francisco, CA
(201) 923-9618
www.lana-usa.org
www.searac.org

Date: Oct 28, 2009

So what is your intention here brother to bring this up ? Just to insult that we came here with nothing to the new land . Almost all of us still have families and friends in Laos. Some of us are still sending money to support our families back home in Laos that means , we are indirectly helping the Lao PDR economy . And hopefully there are a lot of Lao over sea come home to watch Sean game in December so Lao PDR will make a lot of money.

ed · Senior Member

I can see there will be wording (Closed) next to this topic soon!!!

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

For someone like me who had the priveledge and opportunity to be able to interact with both lao american and lao natives in Laos, I can say that you are somehow mislead Mr. Anonymous. Your eyes and heart is blinded by something... it could be hatred from Lao americans who claimed to have tasted freedom and democracy because you are pro-communist; it could be because of jealousy; it could be from simple ignorance; or other reasons.... only you will know.

But what I like to say is that you seem so unfair for generalizing and accusing all lao american making them appear that they have no concern for their motherland and for its people. You need to open up your eyes a little bit more to see that many of the laotians in the US and elsewhere are working hard to preserve their culture considering that they started from scratch. It is quite absurd and illogical to compare them with Japanese for example, which came to the US already well off and from a country with enough richness to afford even establishing a whole university in the US to teach their culture and other things about their motherland.

You need to appreciate the efforts done by your fellow laotians abroad because at least during ceremonies and festivities, they would often than not include traditional lao performances and foods and practices, despite being surrounded by the ultra mixture of different cultures in the US. It would be stupid to expect 100% of laotians abroad to be clinging to 100% laotian culture, because no single foreign nationality in the US have 100% of their race is practicing 100% of the culture of their country of origin. Got that?

Besides, dont look too far ahead. Look inside Laos first. Why would you expect 100% of laotians abroad to stick to 100% of your culture if inside your country alone not 100% of native laotian are embracing the lao culture and traditions. have you been to Vientiane lately. Have you seen young in their laotians in their teens wearing skimpy skirts and shorts and flaunting their cleavage? and they are NOT even prostitutes! have you heard your fellowmen in laos, how to they speak, is it 100% lao?

No offense meant, but I guess you just really need to open your mind. Dont get too emotional accusing your own brothers and sisters abroad of not caring for motherland. Some yes, but not all. And if you truly care enough for your motherland why not start forgiving, accepting, moving forward and promoting peace and cooperation among laotians across all geographical area? Dont you think this would be better to encourage them to contribute to the rapid elimination of yout beloved country from the list of the poorest country? If you continue to accuse and make generalizations you are risking turnign off even those who are already doing something concrete helping poor fellows in Laos. You are not just maybe aware of
them because they are not like you who have big mouth. Tell us what heroic thing have you done so far for your country and countrymen?

They are quiet achievers and someone whom LPDR would really be proud of. Their the silent heroes. Most of all they have great respect for everyone!

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

What do you mean ? stop mendling in other 's people affairs ? you meant by caring about people in Laos? Of course, we are care and never going to stop mendling to make Laos to be better place to live . So do a better job and create jobs and get the people out of poverty as you promise them. Stop the drug dealers and victims of huam being trafficking in Laos first and create jobs so Latian don't have to go Thailand and looking for jobs and end up to be victim of sex slaves

.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

No job, no money, no good life and good health. Is there any government agency to take care of young Lao people who look for job after they finish school? Go out and give them jobs.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao kid wrote:

So what is your intention here brother to bring this up ? Just to insult that we came here with nothing to the new land . Almost all of us still have families and friends in Laos. Some of us are still sending money to support our families back home in Laos that means , we are indirectly helping the Lao PDR economy . And hopefully there are a lot of Lao over sea come home to watch Sean game in December so Lao PDR will make a lot of money.

He must be that same old fart, communist junkie who is talking with his mouth inside his HooKee again. His god hero Kaisone already went to live in his communist heaven - why he didn't go and join him is beyond my comprehension....
I'm not so proud of this Seagame - in fact, it's rather embarrassing - if not shameful - that almost everything about the event is not made by lao people but I'm not going to get into this. If the LPDR is sincere in attracting lao overseas to return to their homeland in whatever capacity then they should officially go and get this Hookee communist out of their system because he is not giving the country a good PR.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

No job, no money, no good life and good health. Is there any government agency to take care of young Lao people who look for job after they finish school? Go out and give them jobs.

There barely is any government recruiting and offering the student jobs unless you are brilliant scientist or in the field that the government really need you but there are good government program in the first world countries which provide good education and have the opportunity for the talent students who are willing to hunt for jobs and providing medicare and welfare for someone who really needed .

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

What do you mean ? stop mendling in other 's people affairs ? you meant by caring about people in Laos? Of course, we are care and never going to stop mendling to make Laos to be better place to live . So do a better job and create jobs and get the people out of poverty as you promise them. Stop the drug dealers and victims of huam being trafficking in Laos first and create jobs so Latian don't have to go Thailand and looking for jobs and end up to be victim of sex slaves

.

What I mean is look at yourself in the mirror first. Make sure your house is in order before you come over to us and tell us what to do. You think we don't know that we have problem? We're not that naive, pal. We did everything we possibly can within our mean and available resources. You have guys had it easy. Everything is already made for you in the United States by the and yet you guys can't even solve your own community problems( i.e. high school drop-out and juvenile deliquency).

We welcome all your valid concern and constructive criticism. It is those opportunistic Lao Patikan that is using every situation to attack us. I'm telling you, we're not that naive. Keep in mind that we led a successful guarilla war against the American backed RLG and ultimately crushed the Patikan armed resistance. We brought peace and stability to the Country. All the key ingredients for Laos' economic growth and prosperity.

All we want is, let us do our job and you do yours. There are a lot of work for both of us. We certainly don't need any distraction from no one, especially from those that have has problem of their own.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

You use the word PATIKAN do you even know what it means?

The word (PATIKAN) was referring to the revolutionary movement known as the PATHET LAO which happen to be the current Communist government of Laos.

The Lao diaspora in USA assimilate into the society of their adopted home. Do you know of any Lao-American trying to overthrow the government of Laos PDR? Don't say Vang Pao because he is not Lao.

Anonymous wrote:

Lao-American will be culturally and identity extinct within the next generation. Their community leaders, particularly the Lao Patikan failed to educated the children in the Lao culture, literature and religion. The number of young Lao-American that can read, write and speak Lao is very low.

Collectively, there is no leadership or guidance to preserve their Lao heritage. Aside from a handful of dedicated individual efforts. The Lao-American elders are so demoralized and hopelessness.

Often time we see some Patikan's inflamatory outburst here and their to express their hopelessness and disillusion state of mind. They would often time accused the Lao PDR of failure to creates enough jobs for its citizens and criticized the Lao PDR's educational system.

In reality it is the Patikan that failured the Lao Diaspora community in the United States. What have they done for the Lao Community in the US in term of job creation and educating the children. How many Lao language school are their in the US? The Chinese, Japanese and Jewish they are have their private school to educate their children in their cultures and languages.

Despite their handicap and inability to lead the community, these shameless Patikan have the audacity to criticize and accuses the Lao PDR of failing to lead its citizens.

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao kid wrote:

Wow ! there are a lot of hatred in you , brother. All Lao refugee who fled Laos and turn their from the violent and war and looking for better living and freedom . So those people who love to see laos to be better living and to have good education, good health care, jobs , good justice system and equal opportunity so those people are patikan to you brother. How dare you accussed Lao American and Lao not protecting Lao culture and religion . so please , have a look at these video and tell me that Lao American don't protect Lao culture and religion.

Lao kid,

If you care enough to go back and look up all my posts, it is a direct response to the inflamatory comments made by Lao Patikan from the US. I actually looked up their IP addresses and pinpoint where it directed from. Personally I harbor no grudges against Lao-American in general. I have always made the distinction between Lao refugees and Lao Patikan. In my other post I made it clear that the Lao Government recognized that not all Lao Refugees are Patikan. Many Lao Refugees did not break Lao laws and the Lao Government recognized that many fled their Country to seek refuge from the War and the Thai Economic blockade imposed upon us in the 70s and 80s.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Lao kid wrote:

So what is your intention here brother to bring this up ? Just to insult that we came here with nothing to the new land . Almost all of us still have families and friends in Laos. Some of us are still sending money to support our families back home in Laos that means , we are indirectly helping the Lao PDR economy . And hopefully there are a lot of Lao over sea come home to watch Sean game in December so Lao PDR will make a lot of money.

The intention of this post is to show the Lao Patikan in the US to mind their own business. The situation in the USA is not all that rosy. There are problems that requires their urgent care. It is very shameful of them to even suggest how we should conduct Laos' internal affair.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao kid wrote:

Wow ! there are a lot of hatred in you , brother. All Lao refugee who fled Laos and turn their from the violent and war and looking for better living and freedom . So those people who love to see laos to be better living and to have good education, good health care, jobs , good justice system and equal opportunity so those people are patikan to you brother. How dare you accussed Lao American and Lao not protecting Lao culture and religion . so please , have a look at these video and tell me that Lao American don't protect Lao culture and religion.

Lao kid,

If you care enough to go back and look up all my posts, it is a direct response to the inflamatory comments made by Lao Patikan from the US. I actually looked up their IP addresses and pinpoint where it directed from. Personally I harbor no grudges against Lao-American in general. I have always made the distinction between Lao refugees and Lao Patikan. In my other post I made it clear that the Lao Government recognized that not all Lao Refugees are Patikan. Many Lao Refugees did not break Lao laws and the Lao Government recognized that many fled their Country to seek refuge from the War and the Thai Economic blockade imposed upon us in the 70s and 80s.

Any way there is no reason to fight in the websit so the whole world will laugh at us. If you would like to fight must not calling name and it does not going to make any thing change in here any way. Lao government careless about this kids fight any way. I do some complain and critize the governmet of working too slow and getting progress too slow that is not meant , I am patikan.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

He must be that same old fart, communist junkie who is talking with his mouth inside his HooKee again. His god hero Kaisone already went to live in his communist heaven - why he didn't go and join him is beyond my comprehension....
I'm not so proud of this Seagame - in fact, it's rather embarrassing - if not shameful - that almost everything about the event is not made by lao people but I'm not going to get into this. If the LPDR is sincere in attracting lao overseas to return to their homeland in whatever capacity then they should officially go and get this Hookee communist out of their system because he is not giving the country a good PR.

Genius,

You seems content to live in other people's Country. Certainly you don't look like the Pilgrim that build the United States from the ground up. Everything is already made for you when you got there. Think a little next time before you type!

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Patikan mean try to over throw the government or terrorist so the people in this web site I don't think any one would like to do that but criticize and complain because of disappointing from the government. They could do in Laos because of fear so they do it here.

Date: Oct 28, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Lao-American will be culturally and identity extinct within the next generation. Their community leaders, particularly the Lao Patikan failed to educated the children in the Lao culture, literature and religion. The number of young Lao-American that can read, write and speak Lao is very low.

Collectively, there is no leadership or guidance to preserve their Lao heritage. Aside from a handful of dedicated individual efforts. The Lao-American elders are so demoralized and hopelessness.

Often time we see some Patikan's inflamatory outburst here and their to express their hopelessness and disillusion state of mind. They would often time accused the Lao PDR of failure to creates enough jobs for its citizens and criticized the Lao PDR's educational system.

In reality it is the Patikan that failured the Lao Diaspora community in the United States. What have they done for the Lao Community in the US in term of job creation and educating the children. How many Lao language school are their in the US? The Chinese, Japanese and Jewish they are have their private school to educate their children in their cultures and languages.

Despite their handicap and inability to lead the community, these shameless Patikan have the audacity to criticize and accuses the Lao PDR of failing to lead its citizens.

There are roughly 200,000 Lao-Americans and yet the Patikan failed miserably to lead and organized the Lao community. The United States have all the ingredients for success and prosperity and yet Lao-American are the poorest among other Asian-American. What is going on, here? Perhap these Patikan should mind their own business more and stop mendling in other people's affairs.

How many of the so officially called living Patikan are left ? All of us here are just regular lao people who still have families and friends back in Laos. I went back to the country to visit and what I saw and experienced is just sad , to say the least.
The USA is a very rich country with many rich people. When you said lao-americans are poor it is just a relative term when comparing to the really really rich ones. When I came to the US I was poor, dirt poor, with just two bare hands. In just a relatively short amount of time I managed to get my education, now a family, a house, two cars both paid for, some savings left aside for vacation spending, and I still feel poor. I have nothing but gratitude towards the USA for giving me all those opportunities. I did not steal, I have no criminal record and I enjoy life very much.
I speak lao so do my kids, we go to lao temples when time permits, I eat khao niaow and tuum maark hoong. I have life insureance, medical, dental, vision, pension and 401K for retirement. And I still feel I'm poor.

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