Phnom Penh plans to build state-of-the-art skytrain !

Date: Oct 29, 2009

Phnom Penh plans to build state-of-the-art skytrain !

Date: Oct 29, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Laos, hurry up now

Written by DAP NEWS -- Wednesday, 28 October 2009 09:49
Phnom Penh will boast a state-of-the-art solar powered ‘skytrain’ similar to the elevated trams of Bangkok if plans discussed in a meeting on Monday are put into action. The developer claimed the new skytrain could carry over 600,000 people per day, with a possible capacity of over 1 million people by 2043.

The Ministry of Economy and Finance (MEF) held a meeting presided over by MEF Minister Keat Chhon with the GREENCAMECO Company, according to MEF reports.
About 39 km of rail would be built around Phnom Penh, Richard Rory of GREENCAMECO said.

An addition 34 km would be covered by buses and solar power would be integral to the project, he added.

The four year project would take until at least 2014, with the first stage from 2011 to 2013. The total budget will be over US$3.6 billion, GREENCAMECO said. Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for the MFE Keat Chhon recommen- ded that “Before starting project, the company should survey extensively first, to protect any impact to the related railways of Cambodia.”

All designs and planning should be clear and support ease of access for all disabled Cambodian people, as well as children,” Keat Chhon added.

Rory said the project would support Cambodian development, inclu- ding public transport, road safety and less traffic jams.

The company should cooperate with the Ministry of Land Manage- ment, Urban Planning and Construc- tion together to better serve the public, Keat Chhon added.

There is no way that Laos will be able to caught up with cambodia.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

Cambodia just develop too fast and economy grow unbelievable plus oil and gas.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

LAO population is not huge, so why Vientiane should have sky train, look Canberra the capital of Australia does not have this sort of thing, and even bullet train project from Canberra to Sydney had to be cancel because it too expensive even rich country like Australia. Vientiane needs a good public transport system then it would do the good job.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

I agreed, we don't have to prove to anyone wheather we have or don't the "state-of-art skytrain... Who cares......I love LAO the way it is now.

khonthakek · Guru

vientiane will build the sky train soon!!!!! but now there are many dams in Laos, does Cambodia has more than us?

Date: Oct 29, 2009

What will the skytrain benefit? Just Vientiane? There are other Laotians out side Vientiane city limit. Let us do something that would benefit all.

It is just a waste of money to build that. There is no way Laos can build this at the current Laos economy or even 10 years from now. I would rather see a better highway system from North to South, better police force, does Lao even have a fire department?, and clean the garbage around the city. Laos will always going to be a tourist destination and if the place is disgusting no one will come.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

very nice
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Date: Oct 29, 2009

Pak lat salard songsay : Yad yeng kan Xuay Leu chark tang pathet bo maen kor. yawn

Date: Oct 29, 2009

You should say " There is no way Laos can catch up with Cambodia" not caught up.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

I don't think Cambodia need Sky Train right now in next 2-3 years. I have seen Phnom Penh by my own eyes last year. Local people can't efford to pay for the ticket to riding the sky train.

They don't have even normal railway. Road still in red dust and only main roads has good condition. Come on. Cambodia is not the country in Middle East. Their economic doesn't go so fast right that. Their educaion of the people stil very low skills and it's take quite sometime to make and prepare their highly skilled labors for factory industries

Confirmed that The Sky Train will be in just dreamed of people in Cambodia for next few decades. 2043 I may believe it. But 2011-14 It's impossible

Date: Oct 29, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

I don't think Cambodia need Sky Train right now in next 2-3 years. I have seen Phnom Penh by my own eyes last year. Local people can't efford to pay for the ticket to riding the sky train.

They don't have even normal railway. Road still in red dust and only main roads has good condition. Come on. Cambodia is not the country in Middle East. Their economic doesn't go so fast right that. Their educaion of the people stil very low skills and it's take quite sometime to make and prepare their highly skilled labors for factory industries

Confirmed that The Sky Train will be in just dreamed of people in Cambodia for next few decades. 2043 I may believe it. But 2011-14 It's impossible

At least Cambodia start to do something that is a good side.

Date: Oct 29, 2009

Ground level tram system is better for small city like Vientiane. It's also cheaper to build too.

Date: Oct 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Ground level tram system is better for small city like Vientiane. It's also cheaper to build too.

That is good but when Lao government is going to start building ? Does it run by electrical power?

Date: Oct 30, 2009

Laos doesn't need sky train . All Laos need are good railroad and good road and bigger airport,

Date: Oct 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Laos doesn't need sky train . All Laos need are good railroad and good road and bigger airport,

Laos have to wait until China or the other country to build for Laos again Laos has no money.

Date: Oct 31, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Laos doesn't need sky train . All Laos need are good railroad and good road and bigger airport,

Laos have to wait until China or the other country to build for Laos again Laos has no money.

yeah laos will have to wait

Date: Oct 31, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Laos doesn't need sky train . All Laos need are good railroad and good road and bigger airport,

Laos have to wait until China or the other country to build for Laos again Laos has no money.

yeah laos will have to wait

want somethings for free then have to wait

Date: Nov 1, 2009

Date: Nov 1, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

i think, that the author of this topic should wake up from his day dream, even it's good. just face the reality.

to laos, vientiane doesn't need nor the people will effort to use this kind of skyline train if someone build it. the same to the buildings. it would be nice to have hundred of the kind of building in the back ground, but who will pay to live in. everyone knows when you live in just building, your freedom is limited,. it'll be a very strict rules and policies, otherwise these kind of buildings will last short. think about it !

we should do what we need, a not what we want.

my3cent

Date: Nov 2, 2009

yeah you are correct. people live in developed world have no freedom because they live and work in those buildings. Plus, they are far more stupid than most of our people.

Date: Nov 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i think, that the author of this topic should wake up from his day dream, even it's good. just face the reality.
to laos, vientiane doesn't need nor the people will effort to use this kind of skyline train if someone build it. the same to the buildings. it would be nice to have hundred of the kind of building in the back ground, but who will pay to live in. everyone knows when you live in just building, your freedom is limited,. it'll be a very strict rules and policies, otherwise these kind of buildings will last short. think about it !
we should do what we need, a not what we want.
my3cent

So my smart cent what do you suggest then let go back to live in the cave and riding horses and buffaloe or live like these.

Date: Nov 3, 2009

I am not Laotian nor Cambodian, but Vietnamese. Skytrain!? So much money!. It's waste of national resources, Gov't better to use money for investing in better road, hospital, school. They must use money in a usefull way, for long term purpose, not short term.

Date: Nov 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

I am not Laotian nor Cambodian, but Vietnamese. Skytrain!? So much money!. It's waste of national resources, Gov't better to use money for investing in better road, hospital, school. They must use money in a usefull way, for long term purpose, not short term.

I know what you mean...take your time and do it right! so there's no regrets after ward, this is good advice .

4Laos

Date: Nov 3, 2009

It's not the government but private companies that are planning to invest in the skytrain. Cambodian government is poor and can't afford the 3.6 billion dollar bill that this project will cost.

Date: Nov 3, 2009

I just see the news: Cambodia Gov't said It will export 8 million tonnes of rice in 2015. Wow! Congragulation for Cambodian farmer.

namae · Veteran Member

skytrain and subway in bangkok average fare around 3$ USD per day , 90$ per month

I agree with some comment above, local cambodian can't afford to pay for the ticket.

-- Edited by namae on Tuesday 3rd of November 2009 06:37:44 AM

Date: Nov 3, 2009

yes, they can't afford the ticket. So that compny will burn $3.6 billion when they finihed building the skytrain biggrin

Date: Nov 3, 2009

I don't think investors will invest in a country unless they see profits. The project in not slated to be finish until at least 2014. Maybe by then the average Phnom Penhian can afford to play the fares for the skytrain instead of wasting valuable time and petrol in other modes of transportation due to the congestion of the streets in the city.

Date: Nov 3, 2009

For speak-out, Either we have it or not. I'm fine with that. But what i really want them to do and fast is to up grade our Education, they the Govt need to invest heavily on Education Systems. Remember, you can build the tallest building in the world if you want it too. But if that building do not have strong foundation, that building just like a piece of ****. i hope you understand me what i'm trying to say, right.

Date: Nov 4, 2009

Agree with you than Speak-out.

my3cent

Speak-out wrote:

For speak-out, Either we have it or not. I'm fine with that. But what i really want them to do and fast is to up grade our Education, they the Govt need to invest heavily on Education Systems. Remember, you can build the tallest building in the world if you want it too. But if that building do not have strong foundation, that building just like a piece of ****. i hope you understand me what i'm trying to say, right.

Date: Nov 4, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Agree with you than Speak-out.

my3cent

Speak-out wrote:

For speak-out, Either we have it or not. I'm fine with that. But what i really want them to do and fast is to up grade our Education, they the Govt need to invest heavily on Education Systems. Remember, you can build the tallest building in the world if you want it too. But if that building do not have strong foundation, that building just like a piece of ****. i hope you understand me what i'm trying to say, right..

555555. What's up Bro? how have you been? busy? or Potato couch?555.

eye_sky · Guru

600,000 people per day???? that IS a very ambitious plan, but its also a welcome development since sometimes, its hard to deal with their tuktuk drivers. you agrfee on a price then upon reaching the destination, the rate drastically changes (as was my similar experience in India). great news.

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2009/11/larger-than-life-statues-depict-folk.html

Date: Nov 5, 2009

555555. What's up Bro? how have you been? busy? or Potato couch?555. ...............................................

BOTH bro.

my3cent

Date: Nov 5, 2009

There are major differences between the NEEDS and the WANTS. At the moment, Vientiane does not NEED a state of the art Skytrain. However, the Lao Government have done a feasibility study on the subject matter. At the moment there are more urgent issues in Vientiane that needs to be address than a Skytrain for the purpose of bragging right.

Date: Nov 5, 2009

Even in the Philippines not yet have such a sky train or subway..why Cambodia will built it for? They build and wait for tourists? I don't thinl local people can pay for those expensive ticket

Phnom Penh is not in the List of Asia's Metropolitan yet. Only Japan, S. Korea, China, Hongkong, Taipei, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and India in the list

Date: Nov 5, 2009

Speak-out wrote:

For speak-out, Either we have it or not. I'm fine with that. But what i really want them to do and fast is to up grade our Education, they the Govt need to invest heavily on Education Systems. Remember, you can build the tallest building in the world if you want it too. But if that building do not have strong foundation, that building just like a piece of ****. i hope you understand me what i'm trying to say, right.

Hey brother speak out no one hear us and listen to us. If we speak too loud , they will shut our moutns .

Date: Dec 3, 2009

well, I am a Phnom Penh recedecnt. Traffic in PP is suck!!!!! I would agree with all of you said we need to have better edu. but it for the whole country! but for Phnom Penh to build a skytrain is another solution for difference problem. Skytrain will not build by the government. I think some of you here even don't look at the article maybe just the title. :) well I would worry also if the PP recedecnt can't afford to buy the ticket might be the investor from Australia and Korea too stupid to invest this amount of money 3.1 billian?? Well, maybe they look far then you look or they study about Cambodia more then you did! So How many of you here come to Phnom Penh and learn about Cambodian living standard? or you look at the Province side and talking about Phnom Penh eith this article?? Well. I don't understand what the reference you did! I can tell you one small thing: to go to one place to other place in PP is very expansive!!! for Skytrain which use the green anegy will make a changing!

NOte: before this project. PP also have another project from Thai company wanted to build teh skytrain as in Bangkok but it was rejected cause Cambodian gov't and Cambodian said that it not time for PP to have this kind of transportation yet.

Date: Dec 3, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Even in the Philippines not yet have such a sky train or subway..why Cambodia will built it for? They build and wait for tourists? I don't thinl local people can pay for those expensive ticket

Phnom Penh is not in the List of Asia's Metropolitan yet. Only Japan, S. Korea, China, Hongkong, Taipei, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and India in the list

Even in the Philippines not yet have such a sky train or subway....

Hi Just want to correct you.
3 interconnected electric trains runs across Metropolitan Manila, 2 with tracks above ground and 1 withtracks both above, on and below ground. They 2 lines are called Metrorail transit 1 &2 (MRT1&2) and Lightrail Transit (LRT). This is in addition to the traditional train that runs on ground.

- knowledge is power -

Date: Dec 4, 2009

Well, I have been in Philippine for one month. I was staying in Queson city. To go to one place to other places I don't use Taxi, bus or jeepny. All the time I go out I am walking or using the skytrain. Skytrain is my best transportation for me because traffic in Manila and other city in Phi r terrible.! :D Pls go to take a look at Manila and Phnom Penh. The differece of Manila and PP is Manila is a mega city PP is not. But look at the side of PP compare to the population right now?? PP is now too small for PP citizens that why now there are many city r in Construction in order to solve this problem. Look at Camko City, Koh Pich City, Grand Phnom Penh International they are the sooner future of Phnom Penh. Again I am a Phnom Penh Citizen, waiting to use the skytrain. And I don't think that we need to compare Cambodia to Laos or PP to Vientiane because we have difference problem to solve.

Best Wish,

Rasmey

Date: Dec 4, 2009

Esh how many people will come to PP because they want to see the skytrain?? Who?? Thai?? Malay?? Phi? Korean?? Korean is the number one visitor to Cambodia. I don't think they will come here because of Skytrain? Why build skytrain for Tourist?? Which kind of political is that?? Wast a lot of money!!! Everything build in PP is for PP citizen first before other! I live here so I know how the feeling of the pp living here. if you come here and stay for long I think you will feel the same thing as I do. :)

With Loves

Rasmey :*

Date: Dec 4, 2009

RAsmey wrote:

Esh how many people will come to PP because they want to see the skytrain?? Who?? Thai?? Malay?? Phi? Korean?? Korean is the number one visitor to Cambodia. I don't think they will come here because of Skytrain? Why build skytrain for Tourist?? Which kind of political is that?? Wast a lot of money!!! Everything build in PP is for PP citizen first before other! I live here so I know how the feeling of the pp living here. if you come here and stay for long I think you will feel the same thing as I do. :)

With Loves

Rasmey :*

Hey, Rasmey

Yes, big things always make start it at the capital city first then spread to other big city. How can start at the small city..how can they do business. People above us they think carefully before they decided to do so. Please understand them too

namae · Veteran Member

even vietnam doesn't has it.

-- Edited by namae on Friday 4th of December 2009 05:10:34 PM

Date: Dec 5, 2009

namae wrote:

even vietnam doesn't has it.

-- Edited by namae on Friday 4th of December 2009 05:10:34 PM

2018 with the bullet train...but the world will be end at 2012, how?

namae · Veteran Member

ha ha ha

Date: Dec 5, 2009

even vietnam doesn't has it.

-- Edited by namae on Friday 4th of December 2009 05:10:34 PM

2018 with the bullet train...but the world will be end at 2012, how?

Why did you say end of the world is 2012. Are you God?

Date: Dec 5, 2009

Even Vietnam don't have it??? Well, it their business. Why? So We have to do it after Vietnam?? Problem in PP doesn't need to think at HCMC. Funny.

The world End in 2012 I heared about it as well. I learn about it as well and I never care about it as well! why need to think about it??? it distuping me alot it not my job! if the world end in 2012? What? just die that all! NOw I just keep doing things that I like to do! I still keep thinking that I will be reach my goal with my action! NO one know what is exaclty the future!! they always guess!

I don't understand that you talking about small or big or think about us what?? I just know that the population in PP gain more and more so quikly now we ahve about 1.5 millian PP now is very small for this among of people. that why they build more city arround PP right now. How to do business?? I don't understand what you mean?? Alot of business in Cambodia now just talking about Telephone company we have 9 Telephone company that ****ing crazy maket! I don't understand how they make business but People just appreciated about it cause to make a phone call in Cambodia now ****ing super cheap compare to last year.

Well, too much.. anyways I am Khmer I think about my self my people my religion my country and I just do everything for a better future!

Loves

Rasmey

Date: Dec 6, 2009

just get your ass out of here, this is not khmern forum. We don't care about how progress you are or what ever, we are happy with with we have now, just stop barking here

Date: Dec 6, 2009

Are you Lao??? Well, I am Khmer. This topic is related to my country. Dear pls open your mind. DOn't you get my meaning?? I don't think that Laos have many people though as you!!! I believe Laos have alot edu people. I have been in Laos twice. I note Lao people are very nice!!!! Not like you here. Or do i need to explain you my pion dear? How old are you? For me, 20? You know why I am here?? because I am so proud of Laos that organize Seagame.. but it is not mean that before Cambodia. Because Cambodia is Cambodia and Laos is Laos we have difference think to think about. what I mention is Laos CAN organize Seagame. WOWWOW... COOL! But when I com here I see theyt talking about my country as well. I also want to know what they thinking about us. So you mean this blog just open for Lao people to talk only?? not for other nation?? I don't understand what is your pion come across. So why don't you make this brog just only in Lao language ? But I don't think so. I believe the creator of this blog not though as you do dear.. they are open for all people.. come and share their idea but for who? for Laos only! For me I want to understand about Lao's idea what they think about the situation around the world. And what Lao people have to do in order to improve Laos as one of the Asean member. I don't mean that I come here just say Cambodia is good.. All of what I said here about the Suck of Traffic in PP and we need to improve.. It not easy to do that... Cause the road here is too small ext... Hey I don't need to talking about this any more.. Because it might be make you bored but Please UNDERSTAND about my pion. read them or you don't read?? Because you don't have time to read? So then pls becareful when you talk. Because it shown me that you don't have well edu. But I dont mean that I am good. Because right now I still have to learn alot more never end from the school people around me everything... and I believe as well alot of loas people do the same thing as other people around the the world do! NOT just sit and say something which is nonsense. NO ACTION!

With LOVES

Rasmey

namae · Veteran Member

Philipines

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Malaysia

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Thailand, skytrain

Thailand, subway

Singapore

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-- Edited by namae on Tuesday 8th of December 2009 07:27:14 AM