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By a comment #55 from this topic on http://www.oknation.net/blog/mee104/2009/12/11/entry-1 and you will know also how do the people on this blog they think about SEA Games or Vientiane Games.
I dont have any thing to say, only I after read the comment #55  ໂຮ່ ! ນັບຖືເລີຍ just read your self as following:

ความคิดเห็นที่ 55
ชัชวัลย์พงศ์ยุทธนาธรรม วันที่ : 11/12/2009 เวลา : 23.14 น.
http://www.oknation.net/blog/chatchawan
ชัชวัลย์  พงษ์ยุทธธรรม

เดือนที่แล้ว หลังการจับสลากแบ่งสายฟุตบอลชายซีเกมส์จบลง
ผมแอบนึกสงสาร ทีมฟุตบอลน้องลาว อยู่ลึกๆ เพราะต้องไปอยู่กลุ่มหิน
ร่วมกับ สิงคโปร์ พม่า และ อินโดนีเซีย
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ในฐานะที่ผมเป็นคนลาวฝั่งขวาแม่น้ำโขง อยากจะถามว่า
ลาวเป็นน้องไทย ตั้งแต่เมื่อไร

สำนวนนี้ มันเป็นความคิดที่ยกตัวเองและกดขี่เหยียดหยามเพื่อนบ้าน เป็นความล้าหลังคลั่งชาติที่มาจากรัฐชาตินิยมของไทย

ในประวัติศาสตร์ก็ปรากฏอยู่ว่า ไทยไปรังแก ไปเผาบ้านเผาเมืองของลาว ไปยึดครองกดขี่ข่มเหง พอเขาสู้ก็หาว่าขบถ นี่ความอุบาทว์ของชนชั้นำในสังคมไทยที่กุมกลไกอำนาจรัฐและสร้างประวัติศาสตร์ครอบงำ
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บอกตามตรงนะครับ ผมได้อ่านได้ฟังใครก็ตามที่ใช้คำว่า พี่ไทยน้องลาว

ผมรู้สึกขึ้นมาทันที "ผมเป็นน้องคุณมาตั้งแต่เมื่อไร" หรือถ้าจะพูดแบบลาวฝั่งขวาแม่น้ำโขงก็คือ "กูไปเป็นน้องโคตรแม่ไทยตั้งแต่มื้อไหนเล่า"

(โปรดรู้ไว้ด้วยว่า ผมไม่ใช้คำว่า คนอีสาน เพราะมันไม่มีคนอีสาน คำเรียกนี้ พวกสยามยัดเยียดให้ เพราะต้องการแยกลาวสองฝั่งโขงออกจากกัน อุบาวท์ไหม?)

พอกันทีได้ไหม ความไม่รู้แบบยกตนเหนือคนอื่น ดูถูกชาติพันธุ์อื่นที่อยู่ชายขอบรอบนอก การแสดงออกแบบดูหมิ่นดูแคลนอยู่ในทีท่าภาษาแบบนี้


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เห็นดีนำ พี่น้องลาวฝั่งขวา. ຂ້ອຍດີໃຈທີ່ເຈົ້າຍັງຖືວ່າເຈົ້າເປັນຄົນລາວຢູ່

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can someone translate for me plzz. ??

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I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



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Nice!

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       "  SALUTE TO LOUK KAO NEAW "

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biggrinNice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
          " SALUTE TO SOME LAO BLOOD IN THE OTHER SIDE OF MEKONG RIVER "

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I dont understand why some Lao people still wait for ISARN united with Lao again.  In my hometown, a lot of people have Lao blood, but they think that Lao is a foreign country, and they call themself as Thai.



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Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.



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Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.



Tell you the truth man who like looking down lao being Isarn i know well about this because i had ever been in thailand to go study there i was looked down from isarn in many way and thai isarn like saying that they civilite more than laos ,when i went to the central of thailand some people they did not know lao they said laos is khonkean i know that khonkaen is laos like that real thai understant ,for me i don't want lao isarn joint with laos because i think they want to be thai slave forever as i know thai isarn do every thinkgs for thaibankokian they respect thai bankkok more than laotien as i know thai isarn has populality about 21 million but they could not do for themself they only feed thai bankkok ,in my opinion thai isarn should figth for govern themself because isarn people more than lao people 15 million but laotien have only 6million this is my opinion man.

 



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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.



Tell you the truth man who like looking down lao being Isarn i know well about this because i had ever been in thailand to go study there i was looked down from isarn in many way and thai isarn like saying that they civilite more than laos ,when i went to the central of thailand some people they did not know lao they said laos is khonkean i know that khonkaen is laos like that real thai understant ,for me i don't want lao isarn joint with laos because i think they want to be thai slave forever as i know thai isarn do every thinkgs for thaibankokian they respect thai bankkok more than laotien as i know thai isarn has populality about 21 million but they could not do for themself they only feed thai bankkok ,in my opinion thai isarn should figth for govern themself because isarn people more than lao people 15 million but laotien have only 6million this is my opinion man.

 



Excuse me, man.

The most beneficial way Of Thai Isran is not to separate themslves from Thailand, but it is to cooperate with the country.  They can get payoff from each other.  Bangkok is the financial, economic and transportation hub.  this characterics can send a lot of benefit to Esarn about investment, tourism and employment.  Moreover, Esarn can use Thailand as an access to the sea.  Do you see my point ?  If Esarn were independent of Thailand, it would be a land-locked country like Lao.  Then, Esarn would lose its compettitiveness and a lot of benefit, depending on another country for the access to the sea.  Moreover, the transportation cost of consumer and industrial products would be higher, then the standard of living would go down.  That's why I dont see any points for Esarn to separate from Thailand. 

 



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Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



Excuse me Sir,

"each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani)."   


These Thai Esarn people used to fight with Bangkok in the past, as you said.  However, you can not use these guys to represent all Thai Esarn people or other Thai people who live in Esarn region.  We, most ESARN people, are willing to join with Bangkok and be a part of Thailand.  We love our King, and be happy to be his people. 


Moreover,  Khuanechai Pripana is is fighting for money, not for ESARN people.  Everybody in my hometown (Korat and Chaiyaphum) know that.

Lao people, please don't use the movement by these three people to infer that ESARN people want to be independent of Thailand.   Just go back to and develop your country.  This could be better for you and you don't need to waste your times with this nonsense topic. 






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Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.



 Oh my god, you are too innocent.  In thailand these years, a Thai movie using ESARN langauge is very famous and make a lot of money.  Even in a TV program, some use ESARN language to talk to the guest.  Moreover, some TV program use a local language in the north or in the south.  You have to think that Thailand has only one official language, which is convenient for the government to administer the country.  Therefore, local people in the north, south and ESARN can use both the Thai official language and their own local language, and we dont have any problems about this.  Why do you, LAO people, always keep bothering with ESARN topic ?  I dont understand why ?  Joinging with Thailand give them better standard of living, health cares, education and employment.  

Please note that if ESARN and LANNA were not united as a part of Thailand, they would be colonized by UF or France during the colonial period like LAO, MYANMAR, CAMBODIA and VIETNAM.  This is the trade off that ESARN and LANNA people can accept.   



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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 




 WHat if a lot of Vietnamese in LAos want to be independent and join with Vietnam ?



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Peenong Lanna want to become Lao. Peenong Isarn want to become Lao. Peenong Lao PDR need change. We will build Lao empire for Peenong.aww

But our palace is in small room in Falangland.no

Oh! man Oh! man who can help us.doh

Or we Lao Nork should stop this day dreaming.disbelief


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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



Excuse me Sir,

"each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani)."   


These Thai Esarn people used to fight with Bangkok in the past, as you said.  However, you can not use these guys to represent all Thai Esarn people or other Thai people who live in Esarn region.  We, most ESARN people, are willing to join with Bangkok and be a part of Thailand.  We love our King, and be happy to be his people. 


Moreover,  Khuanechai Pripana is is fighting for money, not for ESARN people.  Everybody in my hometown (Korat and Chaiyaphum) know that.

Lao people, please don't use the movement by these three people to infer that ESARN people want to be independent of Thailand.   Just go back to and develop your country.  This could be better for you and you don't need to waste your times with this nonsense topic. 






55555, nothing to say but interesting to know that there are red shirt groups in almost every part of Thailand. Southern muslim also have been fighting years for getting themselves away from Siam is the top desire for the fight !!!

 



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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



Excuse me Sir,

"each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani)."   


These Thai Esarn people used to fight with Bangkok in the past, as you said.  However, you can not use these guys to represent all Thai Esarn people or other Thai people who live in Esarn region.  We, most ESARN people, are willing to join with Bangkok and be a part of Thailand.  We love our King, and be happy to be his people. 


Moreover,  Khuanechai Pripana is is fighting for money, not for ESARN people.  Everybody in my hometown (Korat and Chaiyaphum) know that.

Lao people, please don't use the movement by these three people to infer that ESARN people want to be independent of Thailand.   Just go back to and develop your country.  This could be better for you and you don't need to waste your times with this nonsense topic. 






55555, nothing to say but interesting to know that there are red shirt groups in almost every part of Thailand. Southern muslim also have been fighting years for getting themselves away from Siam is the top desire for the fight !!!

 



Also interesting to know that thre is a Loa Nok movement and the Lan Xang Rom Kao dynasty in France waiting to make a political change in Lao in the near future. 

The red shirt group is everywhere but they are contunuously less powerful after Thaksin, the one who financially support the group, insulted the KING and made a pact with Hun Sen.  70 % of Thai people in the North, North Eastern, Central and Southern Thailand object Thaksin's current political move.  That's why a lot of red shirt people change their mind and go away from Thaksin.

Thai ESARn, Thai Lanna, Native Thai, Siamese or Thai Muslim join force together becouse of the KING.  We loveand pay respect to him.  You may not understand for your whole life about this fact, because you are an ignorant guy in a country that freedom is limited.  Even a Vietnamese Thai who migrated from Saigon during the Vietnam war also love the king.  That's why the Monarchy is the one that combine every etchnic groups in Thailand together even we have different blood.  Maybe in Lao, you can not see the situation the Thai muslim is a closed friend with Thai Bhudist or Chinese Thai marry with Laotian Thai.  in Thailand, we accept that there is a difference in culture and root in many area parts, but we are willing to be Thai and call ourselves as Thai.  The ones the want to separate the sountry are doing for their own sake, which is counted as a small group of people compared to the rest Thai people. 


I think you do not understand well about Thai politics, and just want to exagerate about some little fact to insult Thailand.  If this thing could make you happy and forget some inferior complex in your mind, I am happy to say that please do it as much as you want.

 



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Anonymous wrote:
Tian Sirikhan's parent is Lao from Khammouane (Thakhek), his parent moved from Thakhek and relocated in Nakhonephanoum, Thailand. He was killed in Bangkok after World War II by Thai Government.

 

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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
=> I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



Excuse me Sir,

"each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani)."   


These Thai Esarn people used to fight with Bangkok in the past, as you said.  However, you can not use these guys to represent all Thai Esarn people or other Thai people who live in Esarn region.  We, most ESARN people, are willing to join with Bangkok and be a part of Thailand.  We love our King, and be happy to be his people. 


Moreover,  Khuanechai Pripana is is fighting for money, not for ESARN people.  Everybody in my hometown (Korat and Chaiyaphum) know that.

Lao people, please don't use the movement by these three people to infer that ESARN people want to be independent of Thailand.   Just go back to and develop your country.  This could be better for you and you don't need to waste your times with this nonsense topic. 




 




 



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Dear All

That is very good Description. but for my i dea that is not our site , we are lao and prouding in the blood of lao current live now . don't wast time with this. we need to learn and get more knowlage to development our country . Thai or Isan now they are still dreaming with there country will be the best in Asia or in the world but you see as the News they are alway frighting not only in them country incloulding all country whom has border with thailand.
so lat Isan thing what is will better for them
aww

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/HEy Guys

whatever thai or ESAN dont dream to much, who said that we want ESAN to be part of us,

NEVER, dont be proud to much on yourself . please think before you speak out

no wonder that why thailand has no peace, because you guys speak out before thinking,

if you love you country, please dont just use the word, but you guys have to prove by action, which now we all doubt that you guys said you love your country and civilized but civilized people wont solve the problem by arguing , fighting

ohh Gosh

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/HEy Guys

whatever thai or ESAN dont dream to much, who said that we want ESAN to be part of us,

NEVER, dont be proud to much on yourself . please think before you speak out

no wonder that why thailand has no peace, because you guys speak out before thinking,

if you love you country, please dont just use the word, but you guys have to prove by action, which now we all doubt that you guys said you love your country and civilized but civilized people wont solve the problem by arguing , fighting

ohh Gosh




 Actually, I can say that the current political crisis in Thailand is much less severe than the civil war in LAO three decades ago.



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That is very good Description. but for my i dea that is not our site , we are lao and prouding in the blood of lao current live now . don't wast time with this. we need to learn and get more knowlage to development our country . Thai or Isan now they are still dreaming with there country will be the best in Asia or in the world but you see as the News they are alway frighting not only in them country incloulding all country whom has border with thailand.
so lat Isan thing what is will better for them
aww





you dont know much about the international relation in ASEAN. Normally, a country always have conflict with its own neighbors.  Look at Malay, Singapore, Indo and Phillipines, they always have conflict with one another. 

For Lao, I think you never have conflict with Cambodia and Vietnam because you all were colonized by the same country, France.  that's the point. 


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Ultimately it's up to Isaan people whether they want to stay with Thailand, declare self rule or join Laos provided Thailand has no say in this. 

If they want to join Laos then there will need to be a referendum as to whether we want to except them.

If they finally with Laos then the balance of power will probably shift to them as there're more of Isaan people than Lao PDR.

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I am so happy that there is some Lao-blood in the other site of the Mekong river... I have nothing to say..... remember our Lao-blood is till the same colour, if the god is exisited in this world, please bring us together again.



Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

 



"Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming."
 => I am not dreaming man, as you can see there so many Thai Isaan are still respected and many documents show that they want to be independent if your read more document you may see that each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani).

And I would like to ask you does our Lao PDR want Isaan to be a part of Laos? if you ask me I will answer you NO! I sued the turm of "
...please bring us together again" I just meant let them be what they want..... Nothing will make them happier than being Lao-on the right-side of the mekong rather than being called Issan what Siam named them, as you may have read the contribution 55. Many Isaan people mentioned that, eaier (after they seperated from Laos), they were not allowed to speak Lao language at official venues.

 



Excuse me Sir,

"each period of time there are some Isaan hero fighting Thai Bankok, e.g. Tiang Sirikhan (Nakhonpanom), years ago Morlam-Sopha (Khonken) and now Khuanechai Pripana (Udonthani)."   


These Thai Esarn people used to fight with Bangkok in the past, as you said.  However, you can not use these guys to represent all Thai Esarn people or other Thai people who live in Esarn region.  We, most ESARN people, are willing to join with Bangkok and be a part of Thailand.  We love our King, and be happy to be his people. 


Moreover,  Khuanechai Pripana is is fighting for money, not for ESARN people.  Everybody in my hometown (Korat and Chaiyaphum) know that.

Lao people, please don't use the movement by these three people to infer that ESARN people want to be independent of Thailand.   Just go back to and develop your country.  This could be better for you and you don't need to waste your times with this nonsense topic. 






Please don’t generalise some comments in here as they are from Lao People in Laos.  Most Lao people in Laos are happy where we are. We have good relationship with all our neighbouring countries. Comments like the one in Red Letters are mainly written by Some Very Old Lao People from Overseas, so next time you see them just ignore.


 



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WHEN I READ ALL OF COMMENT WHICH WAS POSTED HERE IS BEING TALK WAR OR SPLIT  WAR HERE HEY MAN  WHAT HAPPEN HERE ? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST HISTORY WHICH NEVER COME BACK AGAIN BUT WE HAVE TO APPLY IT AS A LESSON  AND IT IS NECESSARY TO LEARN FROM THAT IT WILL BE GOOD IF YOU DO EVERYTHING FOR YOURSELF AND FOR THE NATION TO BE CIVILTED AS YOU WISH .

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After i read that comment i have tears on my eyes i am proud of you Brother or sister! one day we will reunion we are Lao( fung say) still love you lao (fung kua) we never forget we are the same family you want to visit Lao Vientiane you welcome any time to eat and drink together as a family.

We are Lao vientiane and Lao nork love you Lao issan! lai lai der!!!

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An interesting thing that many people maynot know, in Thailand if you go to the cenemas, you have to stand up before the show. The show will begins with singing the respected King...bla bla.... now I personally think that is maybe normal for some Thai people, what about Thai Muslim? what about foreigners? and what about peole from the countries that they just kicout the king? do you think they would like to do that for ....your King?... think about it

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Stop complaining.  When in Rome do as the Romans do.  It's their country so when you're there, respect their laws.

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After i read that comment i have tears on my eyes i am proud of you Brother or sister! one day we will reunion we are Lao( fung say) still love you lao (fung kua) we never forget we are the same family you want to visit Lao Vientiane you welcome any time to eat and drink together as a family.

We are Lao vientiane and Lao nork love you Lao issan! lai lai der!!!




Please stop this non-sense.  I've seen videos of lost territories posted by Thais, Khmers, or Lao on Youtube and I just think they're all too silly and pointless.   These videos are examples of extreme nationalism, egotism and chauvinism.  The people of South East Asia need to cooperate with one another so that there will be peace and prosperity throughout the region

I've been to Isan many times.    I can't say for all Isan people, but the people that I met consider themselves 100% Thai and they want to be Thai.  I do feel that at ease with Isan people dues to cultural familiarity, but it is still not the same as meeting Lao people who are in Laos itself.



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Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.

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Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.




for lao people (lao nai) don't want isarn to be a part of our country
and
never never

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Please be realistic.  Most Isarn people do not want to unite with Lao.  They know that their blood is partly Lao, but they still want to be a part of Thailand.

Please stop day dreaming.




for lao people (lao nai) don't want isarn to be a part of our country
and
never never

 



+1
It's stupid Lao nork day dream not Lao nai dream.cry

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some of thai isarn also look down lao people too ,  why ? because they are not lao  anymore , for the old thinking , the intention of some people in overseas  you mingt aware they are lao by blood and want it to be a part  of laos again .you always stand in the  same point  with  long2 past  . o no ! you sould not think like that , you sould look over the  real and don't go back  . now  laos its peaceful ,peace of mind , our culture still no more harm , there are many tourist are and wonderful nature lao people 6.5 million ok it's enough for us to develop our lovely country it is not fast but stability ....
i really have no idea if there someone want to change  and make a different far  away  from this state like adding a surplus

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After reading many comments here in Samakomlao, if I'm not mistaken we tend to have harsher words toward our blood brothers across the Mekong than other nationalities such as Vietnamese, Cambodians, Chinese, and etc... 

Why?  Isn't blood thicker than water?

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They can lie to other people, but they can't lie to them self. Facts, isarn are 100% lao they just got brain washed.

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Base on what research and studies that Isaan people say they're not of Lao blood?  Should we just accept words from just one or two people's experiences?

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I see I see

Loas got the bad thinking like this.

The meanning of that word infact is thai and loas is the family not older.

But all of you have a fuc...k thinking like this. Thailand very upset.


You have to know we are KINGDOM OF THAILAND. We never under control of any country.
Espectionly FRANCE.

In fact Thai and Laos is same land but FUC...K France that sepparate out.

PLEASE REALIZE.


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We will Burn down Bangkok and take our Prakeo morakot back to Vientiane That was we want you can keep that in your mind you Thai SIAM Did bad things to us and stolen many things and re-wright cover up the story we never forget that!!

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Laos like a old people and like baby. They want something that never and never get like a baby. And not forget allthing lik old people.


Pleas tell me now. Why you not call down france. MOre you go to france and be the wife of FARANG. Why!!!!!


Why you don't like thai and not forget history. But U still want to get help from thailand and BKK. Why.

If You are MAN. Pls stand and tell us, You don't want any heping from us.

Don't com to learn in thailand. Don't get relation fund from thai. don't trad with thai.


Why you don't do like this. If you hate us pls brave to do this. Don't use the fuc.king mouse talk about history with sucker mouse.

คนลาวทำตัวเหมือนทั้งคนแก่ และเด็ก เรียกร้องเอาอะไรที่เป้นไปไม่ได้ แทนที่จะคิดว่า เป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน พระแก้วก็ยังเป็นของคุณ เพราะแต่ก่อน คนไทยกะลาวก็ประเทศสยามเช่นเดียวกัน. และก็เหมือนคนแก่ ที่จำแต่เรื่องร้ายๆ แบ้ก็บอกว่าตัวเองเป็นเมืองพุทธ ที่มีธรรมะในใจ ประเทศธรรมะ เขาน่าจะปล่อยวาง แล้วรู้ว่า ไม่มีอะไรเป็นของเรา ถ้าคนลาว รู้จักบุคคลสำคัญของโลกท่านนึง ที่ UNESGO ให้การยอมรับว่าเป็นบุคคลสำคัญของโลก ท่ากล่าวไว้ว่า

ตัวกู ของกู มันทำให้ทุก คือ คิดว่า มันเป็นของเรา กูต้องได้ พอไม่ได้ ก็เต้นแร้งเต้นกา ไล่ล่าจะเอา แต่ก็ไม่ได้ สุดท้ายก็สงคราม ทั้งๆที่ คนลาวกะไทย พูดภาษาเดียวกัน เคยเป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน ไม่มีอะไรที่คนไทย แตกต่างจากคนลาว ยกเว้นอย่างเดีนยว คือ วุฒิภาวะ

ทำไมไม่เคยถามว่า ทำไม ไทย ถึงพัฒนาไปได้เรื่อยๆ แม้จะมีเหตุการอะไรมากมาย เพราะไทย แยกแยะ ว่าอะไรคืออดีต อะไรคือ ปัจจุบัน อนาคต ใครก็ตาม ที่จมอยู่กับอดีต แล้วก็คิดอยู่เสมอว่า กูต้องเอาคืนมึงให้ได้ ก็จนวนเวียยนคิดแต่ที่จะทำแบบนั้น โดยไม่รู้จักพัฒนาประเทศ ทั้งๆที่ คนในบ้านเมือง ยังอดอยากลำบากมากมาย แทนที่จะไปช่วยเหลือ ก็เอาเวลามาปรึกากันว่า จะทำยังไง แต่ผมแนะนำนะครับ ให้ส่งเรื่องไป สหประชาชาติ ให้เขาตัดสินเถอะเรื่องนี้ คนชั้นล่างๆ อย่าไปยุ่งเรื่อง ผมบอกว่าไว้ก่อนเลย ถึงแม้ว่า ลาว จะได้พระแก้วกลับคืนไป ไทยก็ไม่ได้ รู้สึกเสียใจ เพราะเราคิดมาตลอดว่า ลาว คือแผ่นดินรเดียวกันกับเรา เม่เคยที่จะคิดว่าจะเอาท่านมาเป็นจังหวัดเลยนแม้แต่น้อย ก็มีแต่คนลาวบางคน ที่นั่งคิดไป คนไทย ไม่ใช่คนยึดติด ท่านเอาไปก็เอาไป ของยังไงก็ไม่ใช่ของเรา มันเป็นอนิจจัง ทุกขัง อนัตตา วันนึงก็ต้องแตกสบายไป ท่านเอาไปเถอะ ถ้าเอาไปได้.


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-- Edited by pea play maker on Friday 18th of December 2009 02:47:23 AM

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We will Burn down Bangkok and take our Prakeo morakot back to Vientiane That was we want you can keep that in your mind you Thai SIAM Did bad things to us and stolen many things and re-wright cover up the story we never forget that!!




very bad choice   no brain     no



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Laos like a old people and like baby. They want something that never and never get like a baby. And not forget allthing lik old people.


Pleas tell me now. Why you not call down france. MOre you go to france and be the wife of FARANG. Why!!!!!


Why you don't like thai and not forget history. But U still want to get help from thailand and BKK. Why.

If You are MAN. Pls stand and tell us, You don't want any heping from us.

Don't com to learn in thailand. Don't get relation fund from thai. don't trad with thai.


Why you don't do like this. If you hate us pls brave to do this. Don't use the fuc.king mouse talk about history with sucker mouse.

คนลาวทำตัวเหมือนทั้งคนแก่ และเด็ก เรียกร้องเอาอะไรที่เป้นไปไม่ได้ แทนที่จะคิดว่า เป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน พระแก้วก็ยังเป็นของคุณ เพราะแต่ก่อน คนไทยกะลาวก็ประเทศสยามเช่นเดียวกัน. และก็เหมือนคนแก่ ที่จำแต่เรื่องร้ายๆ แบ้ก็บอกว่าตัวเองเป็นเมืองพุทธ ที่มีธรรมะในใจ ประเทศธรรมะ เขาน่าจะปล่อยวาง แล้วรู้ว่า ไม่มีอะไรเป็นของเรา ถ้าคนลาว รู้จักบุคคลสำคัญของโลกท่านนึง ที่ UNESGO ให้การยอมรับว่าเป็นบุคคลสำคัญของโลก ท่ากล่าวไว้ว่า

ตัวกู ของกู มันทำให้ทุก คือ คิดว่า มันเป็นของเรา กูต้องได้ พอไม่ได้ ก็เต้นแร้งเต้นกา ไล่ล่าจะเอา แต่ก็ไม่ได้ สุดท้ายก็สงคราม ทั้งๆที่ คนลาวกะไทย พูดภาษาเดียวกัน เคยเป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน ไม่มีอะไรที่คนไทย แตกต่างจากคนลาว ยกเว้นอย่างเดีนยว คือ วุฒิภาวะ

ทำไมไม่เคยถามว่า ทำไม ไทย ถึงพัฒนาไปได้เรื่อยๆ แม้จะมีเหตุการอะไรมากมาย เพราะไทย แยกแยะ ว่าอะไรคืออดีต อะไรคือ ปัจจุบัน อนาคต ใครก็ตาม ที่จมอยู่กับอดีต แล้วก็คิดอยู่เสมอว่า กูต้องเอาคืนมึงให้ได้ ก็จนวนเวียยนคิดแต่ที่จะทำแบบนั้น โดยไม่รู้จักพัฒนาประเทศ ทั้งๆที่ คนในบ้านเมือง ยังอดอยากลำบากมากมาย แทนที่จะไปช่วยเหลือ ก็เอาเวลามาปรึกากันว่า จะทำยังไง แต่ผมแนะนำนะครับ ให้ส่งเรื่องไป สหประชาชาติ ให้เขาตัดสินเถอะเรื่องนี้ คนชั้นล่างๆ อย่าไปยุ่งเรื่อง ผมบอกว่าไว้ก่อนเลย ถึงแม้ว่า ลาว จะได้พระแก้วกลับคืนไป ไทยก็ไม่ได้ รู้สึกเสียใจ เพราะเราคิดมาตลอดว่า ลาว คือแผ่นดินรเดียวกันกับเรา เม่เคยที่จะคิดว่าจะเอาท่านมาเป็นจังหวัดเลยนแม้แต่น้อย ก็มีแต่คนลาวบางคน ที่นั่งคิดไป คนไทย ไม่ใช่คนยึดติด ท่านเอาไปก็เอาไป ของยังไงก็ไม่ใช่ของเรา มันเป็นอนิจจัง ทุกขัง อนัตตา วันนึงก็ต้องแตกสบายไป ท่านเอาไปเถอะ ถ้าเอาไปได้.


อย่าทำตัวเป็นเด็กในร่างคนแก่ ขี้น้อยใจอีกเลย พัฒนาประเทศคุณให้ดีเถิด

-- Edited by pea play maker on Friday 18th of December 2009 02:47:23 AM



ສັນດານ  ປະເທດໄທ ພັດທະນາດີ ມີສິນຄ້າ ເປັນຜູ້ຍິງ ສົ່ງອອກໄປທົ່ວໂລກ. ພວກໂຈນ ອິກມື້ນຶ່ງຈະຮູ້ດີກ່ວານີ້

 



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**** YOU THAI WHY YOU SAID BAD WORD FOR LAOS YOU KNOW ONE DAY YOU MUST BE RUINED BECAUSE YOU LIKE LOOK DOWN NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY YOU KNOW THE OLD KAMMA WILL BACK DESTROY YOU YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIME YOU MADE WAR WITH LAOS AND TOOK EVERYTHING FROM LAOS AND YOU ALWAYS SAID THAT LAOS IS A PART OF YOU YOU KNOW YOU CREATED THE ENEMY AROUND ONE DAY THAT COUNTRY WILL BE DESTROIED YOU BANKOK WILL BE BROKEN THAILAND WILL HAVE NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF BAD WORD

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I'm Thai. I like Laos People.

I don't care history. Because I new generation. Not Granma.


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Anonymous wrote:

 

pea play maker wrote:

Laos like a old people and like baby. They want something that never and never get like a baby. And not forget allthing lik old people.


Pleas tell me now. Why you not call down france. MOre you go to france and be the wife of FARANG. Why!!!!!


Why you don't like thai and not forget history. But U still want to get help from thailand and BKK. Why.

If You are MAN. Pls stand and tell us, You don't want any heping from us.

Don't com to learn in thailand. Don't get relation fund from thai. don't trad with thai.


Why you don't do like this. If you hate us pls brave to do this. Don't use the fuc.king mouse talk about history with sucker mouse.

คนลาวทำตัวเหมือนทั้งคนแก่ และเด็ก เรียกร้องเอาอะไรที่เป้นไปไม่ได้ แทนที่จะคิดว่า เป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน พระแก้วก็ยังเป็นของคุณ เพราะแต่ก่อน คนไทยกะลาวก็ประเทศสยามเช่นเดียวกัน. และก็เหมือนคนแก่ ที่จำแต่เรื่องร้ายๆ แบ้ก็บอกว่าตัวเองเป็นเมืองพุทธ ที่มีธรรมะในใจ ประเทศธรรมะ เขาน่าจะปล่อยวาง แล้วรู้ว่า ไม่มีอะไรเป็นของเรา ถ้าคนลาว รู้จักบุคคลสำคัญของโลกท่านนึง ที่ UNESGO ให้การยอมรับว่าเป็นบุคคลสำคัญของโลก ท่ากล่าวไว้ว่า

ตัวกู ของกู มันทำให้ทุก คือ คิดว่า มันเป็นของเรา กูต้องได้ พอไม่ได้ ก็เต้นแร้งเต้นกา ไล่ล่าจะเอา แต่ก็ไม่ได้ สุดท้ายก็สงคราม ทั้งๆที่ คนลาวกะไทย พูดภาษาเดียวกัน เคยเป็นแผ่นดินเดียวกัน ไม่มีอะไรที่คนไทย แตกต่างจากคนลาว ยกเว้นอย่างเดีนยว คือ วุฒิภาวะ

ทำไมไม่เคยถามว่า ทำไม ไทย ถึงพัฒนาไปได้เรื่อยๆ แม้จะมีเหตุการอะไรมากมาย เพราะไทย แยกแยะ ว่าอะไรคืออดีต อะไรคือ ปัจจุบัน อนาคต ใครก็ตาม ที่จมอยู่กับอดีต แล้วก็คิดอยู่เสมอว่า กูต้องเอาคืนมึงให้ได้ ก็จนวนเวียยนคิดแต่ที่จะทำแบบนั้น โดยไม่รู้จักพัฒนาประเทศ ทั้งๆที่ คนในบ้านเมือง ยังอดอยากลำบากมากมาย แทนที่จะไปช่วยเหลือ ก็เอาเวลามาปรึกากันว่า จะทำยังไง แต่ผมแนะนำนะครับ ให้ส่งเรื่องไป สหประชาชาติ ให้เขาตัดสินเถอะเรื่องนี้ คนชั้นล่างๆ อย่าไปยุ่งเรื่อง ผมบอกว่าไว้ก่อนเลย ถึงแม้ว่า ลาว จะได้พระแก้วกลับคืนไป ไทยก็ไม่ได้ รู้สึกเสียใจ เพราะเราคิดมาตลอดว่า ลาว คือแผ่นดินรเดียวกันกับเรา เม่เคยที่จะคิดว่าจะเอาท่านมาเป็นจังหวัดเลยนแม้แต่น้อย ก็มีแต่คนลาวบางคน ที่นั่งคิดไป คนไทย ไม่ใช่คนยึดติด ท่านเอาไปก็เอาไป ของยังไงก็ไม่ใช่ของเรา มันเป็นอนิจจัง ทุกขัง อนัตตา วันนึงก็ต้องแตกสบายไป ท่านเอาไปเถอะ ถ้าเอาไปได้.


อย่าทำตัวเป็นเด็กในร่างคนแก่ ขี้น้อยใจอีกเลย พัฒนาประเทศคุณให้ดีเถิด

-- Edited by pea play maker on Friday 18th of December 2009 02:47:23 AM



ສັນດານ  ປະເທດໄທ ພັດທະນາດີ ມີສິນຄ້າ ເປັນຜູ້ຍິງ ສົ່ງອອກໄປທົ່ວໂລກ. ພວກໂຈນ ອິກມື້ນຶ່ງຈະຮູ້ດີກ່ວານີ້

 

 




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ສັນດານ  ປະເທດໄທ ພັດທະນາດີ ມີສິນຄ້າ ເປັນຜູ້ຍິງ ສົ່ງອອກໄປທົ່ວໂລກ. ພວກໂຈນ ອິກມື້ນຶ່ງຈະຮູ້ດີກ່ວານີ້


ส่วนสันดานมึงอ่ะ เก่งจริงถ้ามีอะไรก็อย่าไปพึ่งเค้าสิวะ ถุย

ซีเกมส์ครั้งนี้ ถ้าไม่มีไทยช่วย มึงคิดเหรอว่า ไอ้ลัดทะบานห่วย ๆ มันจะทำได้

กูก็ลาว เติบโตเมืองไทยมานาน รู้จักแยกแยะ อะไรดีชั่ว ไม่ใช่สักแต่ด่าเค้า ไอ้สัส

เก่งจริงก็อย่าให้พ่อแม่พี่น้องมึงมาทำงานเป็นขี้ข้าในไทยสิวะ

เห็นว่าแม่ง หลังจากซีเกมส์ บอกว่าอยากจะจัดเอเชี่ยนเกมส์อีก

กูก็ว่าแม่งต้องเดือดร้อนไทยอยู่ดี เอาอะไรมาคิดว่า ไอ้เหี้ย

อย่าคิดว่ากูอ่านพาสาลาวไม่ออกนะ ไอ้สัตว์

 

พวกมึงจะทำคนลาวขายหน้าเค้าไปถึงไหน

แค่ตอนนี้พวกมึงเป็นขี้ข้าเวียตนามก็น่าขายหน้าแค่ไหนแล้ว

 

แล้วยังไม่พอ ความอัปรีย์ของมึง ทำให้กูต้องขายหน้า ในเวปพันทิพ ในเวปไทยแลนด์สู้สู้

เก่งจริงมึงไปหน้าสถานฑูตไทย แล้วเผาเหมือนกับที่เขมรทำสิวะ ไม่ใช่เก่งแต่ปาก

 

ไม่งั้นมึงก็ได้แต่เป็นขี้ข้าเค้าไปตลอดชาติเหมือนพ่อแม่มึงไง ไอ้สัส



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อ๋อ แล้วถ้าม็อด ลบกระทุ้นี้นะ มึงก็ไม่ต้องกลัว!!!!!!!

เพราะกูเซฟไว้หมดแล้ว

พวกมึงต้องรับผิดชอบคำพูดทุกคำของพวกมึง

เจอกันในพันทิพแน่ เพราะคนไทยเป็นแสนคนอ่านเวปนั้นต่อวัน

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นี่ผมด่าแต่พวกมันนะ ไม่ได้ด่าคนลาวทั้งหมด ผมหมายถึงพวกมันทุกตัวในเวปนี้

ที่ชอบตั้งกระทุ้ด่าไทย ส่วนคนที่ดีอยู่แล้ว หากคำพูดผมไปทำอะไรให้เจ็บปวดก็ต้องขอโทษครับ

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Tobias G wrote:

นี่ผมด่าแต่พวกมันนะ ไม่ได้ด่าคนลาวทั้งหมด ผมหมายถึงพวกมันทุกตัวในเวปนี้

ที่ชอบตั้งกระทุ้ด่าไทย ส่วนคนที่ดีอยู่แล้ว หากคำพูดผมไปทำอะไรให้เจ็บปวดก็ต้องขอโทษครับ




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แค่นี้ความรู้สึกที่คนไทยมีต่อคนลาวก็แย่กว่าก่อนซีเกมส์จัดมากแล้ว



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