Updating about 3rd and 4th bridges between Laos-Thailand.

Laos2beLaos · Senior Member

Updating about 3rd and 4th bridges between Laos-Thailand.

khonthakek · Guru

congratulation- thank for sharing Laos2belaos.

SeeHarHed · Guru

I guess Laos will not spend a dime on both of these projects? I don't understand why Laos can't fork out some $$$ and be proud to own a bridge. In this case, how can you claim that the bridge is yours? When you didn't even spend any money on it.

DEATHEP · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:

I guess Laos will not spend a dime on both of these projects? I don't understand why Laos can't fork out some $$$ and be proud to own a bridge. In this case, how can you claim that the bridge is yours? When you didn't even spend any money on it.

Because Thailand will benefiting from the bridge as well. If Thailand wants to build it because it will benefit both countries, why is that such a bad thing? Your posts are very disparaging.

SeeHarHed · Guru

DEATHEP wrote:
Because Thailand will benefiting from the bridge as well. If Thailand wants to build it because it will benefit both countries, why is that such a bad thing? Your posts are very disparaging.

Well... I guess the truth hurts? Well, I totally understand that Thailand will be benefits from the bridge, so as Laos will too. My point is... why didn't Laos fork out some cash??? I know this bridge will link Laos and Thailand, so why is the Chinese involve??

DEATHEP · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:

Well... I guess the truth hurts? Well, I totally understand that Thailand will be benefits from the bridge, so as Laos will too. My point is... why didn't Laos fork out some cash??? I know this bridge will link Laos and Thailand, so why is the Chinese involve??

Why didn't Laos fork out some cash?

Because they didn't have any.

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

There is nothing to be hurt about. Fact is, China and Thailand are the primary beneficiaries of these infrastructure. These Countries needs those bridges and roads in Laos to move their products to the China-ASEAN Market. It's a win-win for all parties involve.
The saving help enable the Lao Government to pay for other needed project.

SeeHarHed wrote:

DEATHEP wrote:
Because Thailand will benefiting from the bridge as well. If Thailand wants to build it because it will benefit both countries, why is that such a bad thing? Your posts are very disparaging.

Well... I guess the truth hurts? Well, I totally understand that Thailand will be benefits from the bridge, so as Laos will too. My point is... why didn't Laos fork out some cash??? I know this bridge will link Laos and Thailand, so why is the Chinese involve??

SeeHarHed · Guru

laopeoplesarmy wrote:

There is nothing to be hurt about. Fact is, China and Thailand are the primary beneficiaries of these infrastructure. These Countries needs those bridges and roads in Laos to move their products to the China-ASEAN Market. It's a win-win for all parties involve.
The saving help enable the Lao Government to pay for other needed project.

What other projects?? Stop it right there please.. You're making laugh out loud so hard here.. Let's not kid yourself that the money is going back to the people.

Can you name me one big project that Laos actually build and fund itself? hhmmmm let see... hhmmm NONE!!! The other two bridges are the same deal, funded and build by others.

laopeoplearmy, shouldn't you be finishing up with your study by now?? perhaps you're getting used to the good life in the U.S. and didn't want to go back??

DEATHEP · Senior Member

Projects such as eduction, technological modernization, conservation, etc? Just because you don't see big buildings doesn't mean money isn't going back to people.

If you would think about it for a minute, you would realize that it would not be beneficial at all for Laos to pay for their own bridge. For starters, it is not entirely necessary, but also somebody else is willing to pay for it. Don't you think there are better ways to spend 25 million dollars than a bridge you don't really need? It would take a very long time for revenues generated from the bridge paid for itself.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

The way I see is Thai and Chinese are another big investors in Lao besides Vietnamese so they should split the cost for this bridge not Laos Govnmt. It's just like in United States of America, the builder is responsible to do the road that would led to the new subdivision where all the new houses will be built, not the Govnmt.

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

It appear that your have already form your own conclusion. It is no use for me to cite any source. Beside what business do you have with Lao PDR. If your not a citizen of the Lao PDR that are just wasting your time.

The World Bank recently reported that Lao PDR has the fastest economic growth in Asia, second to the PRC.

SeeHarHed wrote:

laopeoplesarmy wrote:

There is nothing to be hurt about. Fact is, China and Thailand are the primary beneficiaries of these infrastructure. These Countries needs those bridges and roads in Laos to move their products to the China-ASEAN Market. It's a win-win for all parties involve.
The saving help enable the Lao Government to pay for other needed project.

What other projects?? Stop it right there please.. You're making laugh out loud so hard here.. Let's not kid yourself that the money is going back to the people.
Can you name me one big project that Laos actually build and fund itself? hhmmmm let see... hhmmm NONE!!! The other two bridges are the same deal, funded and build by others.
laopeoplearmy, shouldn't you be finishing up with your study by now?? perhaps you're getting used to the good life in the U.S. and didn't want to go back??

Date: Jan 30, 2010

I thought laopeoplesarmy is so anti-liberal point of views. Why is he then studying in the US. What a hypocrite.

DEATHEP · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

I thought laopeoplesarmy is so anti-liberal point of views. Why is he then studying in the US. What a hypocrite.

Apparently a quality education doesn't mean much to you.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

DEATHEP wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I thought laopeoplesarmy is so anti-liberal point of views. Why is he then studying in the US. What a hypocrite.

Apparently a quality education doesn't mean much to you.

An intelligent academic person like you shouldn't make assumptions.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

As i read all of your comments here, all of you made really Interesting and reasonable argument and debated. Either it was a negative or positive and of course, if There's no argue, There's no forum here. Right !!!! Here is my personal opinion about all the Bridges. Bridge1# Vientian-NongKhai, for land linked between Laos and Thailand and made it easier for thais good and finish products to Laos. Bridge2and3# Savanh-Mukdaharn, and Thakhaek-Nakornphanom. again, make an easier for these two Residences to travel to each other. But the main reason for the Thai government and Business leaders, They were eyeing on the Danang right next to Savanh, and Muang Vinh right next to Thakhaek to send their finish good to some sixty millions Residences there. and of course, Lao get tax revenue for allow thai finish good to go thru-Laos. Bridge4# this is very major because it' involve with two big business tigers in Asia, Thailand-China.But thailand will get more benefit than China because they target the Kunming Yunnan as well as other surrounding provinces. so you know now why the Chinese were involved funding for this Bridge. and our lao also benefit from this too, but not much. But, it's better than nothing.

khonthakek · Guru

Speak-out wrote:

As i read all of your comments here, all of you made really Interesting and reasonable argument and debated. Either it was a negative or positive and of course, if There's no argue, There's no forum here. Right !!!! Here is my personal opinion about all the Bridges. Bridge1# Vientian-NongKhai, for land linked between Laos and Thailand and made it easier for thais good and finish products to Laos. Bridge2and3# Savanh-Mukdaharn, and Thakhaek-Nakornphanom. again, make an easier for these two Residences to travel to each other. But the main reason for the Thai government and Business leaders, They were eyeing on the Danang right next to Savanh, and Muang Vinh right next to Thakhaek to send their finish good to some sixty millions Residences there. and of course, Lao get tax revenue for allow thai finish good to go thru-Laos. Bridge4# this is very major because it' involve with two big business tigers in Asia, Thailand-China.But thailand will get more benefit than China because they target the Kunming Yunnan as well as other surrounding provinces. so you know now why the Chinese were involved funding for this Bridge. and our lao also benefit from this too, but not much. But, it's better than nothing.

brother speak -out... you still alive? haha

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

Inciting racial tension in the Lao PDR is a crime and had nothing to do with liberal debates. Lao PDR is a multi-ethnics and multi-culturals States. We do not tolerate bigotry, especially from non-Lao citizens.

Anonymous wrote:

I thought laopeoplesarmy is so anti-liberal point of views. Why is he then studying in the US. What a hypocrite.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

khonthakek wrote:

Speak-out wrote:

As i read all of your comments here, all of you made really Interesting and reasonable argument and debated. Either it was a negative or positive and of course, if There's no argue, There's no forum here. Right !!!! Here is my personal opinion about all the Bridges. Bridge1# Vientian-NongKhai, for land linked between Laos and Thailand and made it easier for thais good and finish products to Laos. Bridge2and3# Savanh-Mukdaharn, and Thakhaek-Nakornphanom. again, make an easier for these two Residences to travel to each other. But the main reason for the Thai government and Business leaders, They were eyeing on the Danang right next to Savanh, and Muang Vinh right next to Thakhaek to send their finish good to some sixty millions Residences there. and of course, Lao get tax revenue for allow thai finish good to go thru-Laos. Bridge4# this is very major because it' involve with two big business tigers in Asia, Thailand-China.But thailand will get more benefit than China because they target the Kunming Yunnan as well as other surrounding provinces. so you know now why the Chinese were involved funding for this Bridge. and our lao also benefit from this too, but not much. But, it's better than nothing.

brother speak -out... you still alive? haha

Hey!! what'sup Brother thakek, yes!! i'm still alive but not well. Thanks for asking Bro. after cameback from winter vacation in CANADA. I failed sick, i mean real sick. i thought i really got H1N1. but after did a few time check-up the Dr. said just regular flu that's all. but still it' cost me almost 2weeks vacationdays. so anyway how's everything with you Bro? how was your new-year? everything about 2010? alright Bro get you later..

Dark Angel · Guru

Laos need a lot of bridges and railroads to go to the sea or harbors. Laos is the land lock country. Laos need the bridges and railroads to Thailand , Vietnam , Myanmar , Cambodia
and China in order for Laos to improve the development and economy growth . It does not matter who pay for those Laos will benefit from them. Laos could not afford to pay for now so any help would be good. Thank you to every one who help to build.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Saturday 30th of January 2010 05:32:26 PM

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Dark Angel wrote:

Laos need a lot of bridges and railroads to go to the sea or harbors. Laos is the land lock country. Laos need the bridges and railroads to Thailand , Vietnam , Myanmar , Cambodia
and China in order for Laos to improve the development and economy growth . It does not matter who pay for those Laos will benefit from them. Laos could not afford to pay for now so any help would be good. Thank you to every one who help to build.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Saturday 30th of January 2010 05:32:26 PM

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BRO, DARK ANGEL....

Zak · Senior Member

laopeoplesarmy wrote:

Inciting racial tension in the Lao PDR is a crime and had nothing to do with liberal debates. Lao PDR is a multi-ethnics and multi-culturals States. We do not tolerate bigotry, especially from non-Lao citizens.

Anonymous wrote:

I thought laopeoplesarmy is so anti-liberal point of views. Why is he then studying in the US. What a hypocrite.

laopeoplesarmy, you say the Lao PDR is a multi-cultural state, but when the SEA games appeared on TV, all I saw were Lao traditions and customs. Granted, there were tons of people in multi-ethnic costumes, but that is hardly a celebration of being a "multi cultural state".

;)

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Zak,

Maybe you need some glasses. Click on the link below and tell me what do you see on 6:37 and 7:09.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu3u-V32kJw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDui40COnxc&feature=related

0:08; 0:30 and 0:39. These are only a few example. Your eyes only see what you wanted to see. It has nothing to do with the Lao Multi-Ethnics and Multi-Culturals State.

V/R,

Lao People's Army

Zak wrote

laopeoplesarmy, you say the Lao PDR is a multi-cultural state, but when the SEA games appeared on TV, all I saw were Lao traditions and customs. Granted, there were tons of people in multi-ethnic costumes, but that is hardly a celebration of being a "multi cultural state".

;)

Zak · Senior Member

Specifically, it would have been nice to see Hmong ball tossing amongst Lao dancing, instead of just costumes. Instead of a showcase of Lao ethnic dancing, traditions (rocket festival), and such, what about the other many ethnic groups? Where do their traditions stand?

Of course, I see a show. It is what the Lao PDR wants to show to the world and ASEAN.It was a magnificent show. The use of the SEA games is an example to counter your claim of Laos being "a multi-ethnics and multi-culturals States. " Indeed it is, but is there representation of that?

Anonymous wrote:

Zak,

Maybe you need some glasses. Click on the link below and tell me what do you see on 6:37 and 7:09.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu3u-V32kJw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDui40COnxc&feature=related

0:08; 0:30 and 0:39. These are only a few example. Your eyes only see what you wanted to see. It has nothing to do with the Lao Multi-Ethnics and Multi-Culturals State.

V/R,

Lao People's Army

Zak wrote

laopeoplesarmy, you say the Lao PDR is a multi-cultural state, but when the SEA games appeared on TV, all I saw were Lao traditions and customs. Granted, there were tons of people in multi-ethnic costumes, but that is hardly a celebration of being a "multi cultural state".

;)

khonthakek · Guru

Speak-out wrote:

khonthakek wrote:

Speak-out wrote:

As i read all of your comments here, all of you made really Interesting and reasonable argument and debated. Either it was a negative or positive and of course, if There's no argue, There's no forum here. Right !!!! Here is my personal opinion about all the Bridges. Bridge1# Vientian-NongKhai, for land linked between Laos and Thailand and made it easier for thais good and finish products to Laos. Bridge2and3# Savanh-Mukdaharn, and Thakhaek-Nakornphanom. again, make an easier for these two Residences to travel to each other. But the main reason for the Thai government and Business leaders, They were eyeing on the Danang right next to Savanh, and Muang Vinh right next to Thakhaek to send their finish good to some sixty millions Residences there. and of course, Lao get tax revenue for allow thai finish good to go thru-Laos. Bridge4# this is very major because it' involve with two big business tigers in Asia, Thailand-China.But thailand will get more benefit than China because they target the Kunming Yunnan as well as other surrounding provinces. so you know now why the Chinese were involved funding for this Bridge. and our lao also benefit from this too, but not much. But, it's better than nothing.

brother speak -out... you still alive? haha

Hey!! what'sup Brother thakek, yes!! i'm still alive but not well. Thanks for asking Bro. after cameback from winter vacation in CANADA. I failed sick, i mean real sick. i thought i really got H1N1. but after did a few time check-up the Dr. said just regular flu that's all. but still it' cost me almost 2weeks vacationdays. so anyway how's everything with you Bro? how was your new-year? everything about 2010? alright Bro get you later..

Oh,, i see bro..just take care ,people are easy to get cold and flu on winter season, my new year was great, thanks for asking ,my work is still busy blabla.. and yes quite active on samakomlao as before.

Ps: i wen to SEA game in vientiane, Lao did a great job and won many golds..I m glad to see that.. Ok.. talk to you on another topic..