Coffee growers learn new techniques from Dao Heuang

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Coffee growers learn new techniques from Dao Heuang

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Way to go DaoHeuang, you do very good job on this. That's the wayto do a Business. When you successful you should impower the local residence as well as the country how to do it. Good job.

typutthana · Member

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techiques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Doa Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamess there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

typutthana · Member

Please do not think of me as an insticater because all
i am doing is stating the fact. You can take it and turn it
any where you'd like. Beauty is in the eyes of beholders
and good or bad is for you to decide.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Speak-out wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

I confuse with the government policy lately . What good is it if the Vietnamese and Chinese come to Laos and the Lao government take the farmers' land d give to the Vietnamese and Chinese To build hotel and casinos , resource and golf course and also rubbers plantation and other construction project such dams and road and airport and government building and brought their own workers so all the money and profit they will brought back to their countries. What 's Lao get out from those investment. OR only from leasing the land and tax ?

Date: Jan 30, 2010

I assumed that some of the Laos government officials
is probably getting paid underneath of the table, The
central government is probably get the initial fee on
the lease of the land, yearly property tax, sale tax upon
harvesting and also a promised to employed the local
villagers. Judging by the comment above i think the
laos government fail on that count.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

I assumed that some of the Laos government officials
is probably getting paid underneath of the table, The
central government is probably get the initial fee on
the lease of the land, yearly property tax, sale tax upon
harvesting and also a promised to employed the local
villagers. Judging by the comment above i think the
laos government fail on that count.

Correcting if I am wrong . According from the past the Chinese brought their own workers and don't hire any Laotian so do the Vietnamese.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

At this time ,there are 20 millions migrant Chinese workers lost their jobs if there are any jobs any where else the Chinese will give the jobs to those Chinese migrant workers first.

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

I assumed that some of the Laos government officials
is probably getting paid underneath of the table, The
central government is probably get the initial fee on
the lease of the land, yearly property tax, sale tax upon
harvesting and also a promised to employed the local
villagers. Judging by the comment above i think the
laos government fail on that count.

The policy in Lao gov is every man is for himself or dog eat dog.

l

Date: Jan 30, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

At this time ,there are 20 millions migrant Chinese workers lost their jobs if there are any jobs any where else the Chinese will give the jobs to those Chinese migrant workers first.

If the manufacturing plants is in china you are absolutely right!
but we are not talking about china now are we?. O.k ...since
we are talking about Laos i think that the laotiansshould not be forced to give up their job to the chinese. The government of
laos will make sure that's not going to happend......Will they!!!

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this time ,there are 20 millions migrant Chinese workers lost their jobs if there are any jobs any where else the Chinese will give the jobs to those Chinese migrant workers first.

If the manufacturing plants is in china you are absolutely right!
but we are not talking about china now are we?. O.k ...since
we are talking about Laos i think that the laotiansshould not be forced to give up their job to the chinese. The government of
laos will make sure that's not going to happend......Will they!!!

So Chinese company , they just don't hire Lao and fly their workers from China to Laos and workers and they don't have to force any thing . Chinese company just don't hire Lao period their excuses are that Lao people don't speak Chinese,

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Soon there will be more Chinese and Vietnamese laborers in Laos and they will acquire Lao citizenship and become part of Lao population. In the next 50 years or so, Lao native will be the minority.

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Soon there will be more Chinese and Vietnamese laborers in Laos and they will acquire Lao citizenship and become part of Lao population. In the next 50 years or so, Lao native will be the minority.

who said 50 years, the next 10 years the most. They could come tomorrow
20 millions in one week.

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this time ,there are 20 millions migrant Chinese workers lost their jobs if there are any jobs any where else the Chinese will give the jobs to those Chinese migrant workers first.

If the manufacturing plants is in china you are absolutely right!
but we are not talking about china now are we?. O.k ...since
we are talking about Laos i think that the laotiansshould not be forced to give up their job to the chinese. The government of
laos will make sure that's not going to happend......Will they!!!

So Chinese company , they just don't hire Lao and fly their workers from China to Laos and workers and they don't have to force any thing . Chinese company just don't hire Lao period their excuses are that Lao people don't speak Chinese,

But why can't we use the same excuse that Chinese workers don't speak Lao?

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Speak-out wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

Lack of man power? There're 250,000 Lao workers in Thailand.

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Speak-out wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.
Are you Nang Darling? How old are you honey?
because you sound alot like my five year old kid.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

Date: Jan 31, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Speak-out wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

Lack of man power? There're 250,000 Lao workers in Thailand.

Yes, Brother. you absolutely right.There were more than 200 something thousand lao worked in thailand it either legal or illegal, the reason, the pay, stable job and stable income. that's why we kindda short on manpower in our country. only left with elderly workers to do a small minor job. in today workforce, there's lot of young lao workers float into thailand to find a stable jobs, it' either factory work or housekeeping job, but, they think they can make more money in thailand than our own country. but, i still think that short of manpower is not really a problem, the major problem is Pay-rate and other fling benefit that go along with the job.. and as far as i concern, our lao government don't have any minimum-wag law yet. Am i right?....

Date: Jan 31, 2010

typutthana wrote:

Thank you for sharing the information with us. I hope
you're right about the new techniques because in the
near future I am thinking about investing in the coffee
plantation myself. The informations that you bring forth
is very accurate. I know this because i had the changed to
visit the Dao Heuang plantation and the new processing
plant myself. However; i have seen something else when
i was there. I noticed that during the harvesting season
there were lot of local students picking the beans which
is about two to three months out of a year, and i also
see alot of vietnamese there too. The local elder told
me "they stayed here all year around". These people
don't even speak laos....well maybe "sabaidee". I am
just stating the facts and nothing more then that.

So what do you mean by that ? Good or bad ? they don't speak Lao and work in Laos. Are they legal or illegal residents? If they don't speak Lao so Lao must speak Vietnamese and Chinese in order to work and communicate with them because the business owners are Vietnamese and Chinese.

That's ok Brother, as long as they coming in and help contributed to our local economy that's fine with me. these old folks won't demand any special treat ment like free health care, free housing, and free school, and as matter of fact, they won't, and never will if they're illegal residences. by saying this. it' doesn't mean i support it ok. they already there, and maybe the place lack of man powers that's why they hire an illegal workers to do the job....

Lack of man power? There're 250,000 Lao workers in Thailand.

Yes, Brother. you absolutely right.There were more than 200 something thousand lao worked in thailand it either legal or illegal, the reason, the pay, stable job and stable income. that's why we kindda short on manpower in our country. only left with elderly workers to do a small minor job. in today workforce, there's lot of young lao workers float into thailand to find a stable jobs, it' either factory work or housekeeping job, but, they think they can make more money in thailand than our own country. but, i still think that short of manpower is not really a problem, the major problem is Pay-rate and other fling benefit that go along with the job.. and as far as i concern, our lao government don't have any minimum-wag law yet. Am i right?....

Do the foreign workers such as Vietnamese and Chinese get pay more than Lao workers? Do the Chinese workers have medical benefit ?

Date: Jan 31, 2010

I guess most the migrant workers in China earn about $3 per day or less . So in Laos they might earn about the same. I don't know about the Vietnamese in Vietnam how much that the Vietnamese workers earn in Vietnam perhaps much cheaper than Chinese workers in order for the foreign investors to move from China to Vietnam.

Date: Sep 21, 2012

Hi , i am Karan from India . I have my own coffee plantation of 10 hectares . Could you please guide me to get few good qwality seeds from your plantation (i am specifying your plantation because i saw healthy plants in the video and i am sure you always maintain qwality). Could you please reply on gnkarna@gmail.com for further discussions . Awaiting for your positive response .