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Organic network to be formed
 
Bangkok Post, 04 Feb 2010
 
The government will collaborate with neighbouring countries along the
Mekong River and Australia to develop a network for organic
agriculture in a move to expand exports of organic goods.
 
Mrs Porntiva joins ministry officials to promote the Organic Thai
Produce fair at the Commerce Ministry headquarters yesterday.
 
Proposed by Thailand, the initiative involves countries in the Greater
Mekong Subregion (GMS) and Australia, said Pimpapaan Chansilpa, deputy
permanent secretary for the Commerce Ministry.
 
As a first step, a working group on trade will be set up to exchange
information and data on production sites to convince importing
countries of the product standards in the region.
 
According to Commerce Minister Porntiva Nakasai, who yesterday
presided over the opening of "Organic Thai Produce" fair which runs
until today at the ministry headquarters, organic products are
currently the fastest-growing sector worldwide, with annual growth
rates of between 20% and 30%.
 
The global market value for the organic industry is estimated at US
$100 billion this year, up to 50% of which is generated by products
from Europe, 45% from the United States and the rest mainly from Japan
and Australia.
 
Thailand's markets for organic agricultural products have been growing
significantly over the past several years, driven by rising concerns
over health and sanitary issues.
 
The Thai market for organic goods is estimated to be worth 6 billion
baht, half of which comes from exports. The country's exports of
organic products are projected to grow by 10% this year to more than
3.3 billion baht.
 
Key organic products include rice, fresh vegetables and seeds,
processed fruit, sugar, palm oil, dairy products and shrimp.
 
According to Mrs Pimpapaan, the ministry this year will focus on
developing an organic business commodity model under which organic
producers are linked closely with other producers, distribution
channels and end-consumers so that they can offer more diverse organic
products.
 
The ministry is also committed to cutting logistics costs and
developing distribution outlets to make the organic foods more
accessible to consumers.



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No one wants to buy organic vegetable in Laos, not beautiful and green.

-- Edited by khonthakek on Friday 5th of February 2010 03:40:31 AM

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No one wants to buy organic vegetable in Laos, not beautiful and green.

-- Edited by khonthakek on Friday 5th of February 2010 03:40:31 AM




Im sure if authorities will invest in improving competence of the farmers they would be able to improve the quality of their yields. I wonder if there are groups that reach out to local farmers to train them how to improve the locals farming skills. Maybe they only need to learn some tricks. smile Lao soil is very rich but its not yet used to its fullest extent (on the positive/ productive context)wink



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yes right, my cousin grows some vegetable on the bank of Mekong river where the soil is very rich and it is good for any plants to grow. but the problem is we don't have the market for organic vegetable and those vegetable are full in the market at the same time so, we had to throw it away since we couldn't sell it all. we rely on nature too much.

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If Lao doing the Organic farms so we need to export to oversea only. I don't think Lao people in the country will buy these organic things to cooking everyday. It's kind of expensive to buy those organic compare to normal (toxic) veggi which is more cheapper

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If Lao doing the Organic farms so we need to export to oversea only. I don't think Lao people in the country will buy these organic things to cooking everyday. It's kind of expensive to buy those organic compare to normal (toxic) veggi which is more cheapper




who say, organic food is expensive in Laos?  Is fish from Mekong river organic? is frog from the rice filed organic? chicken we raise at home is organic? vegetable that we grow at farm and we use dung is organic?

 

people are concerned about taste ,not vitamin or protein



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If Lao doing the Organic farms so we need to export to oversea only. I don't think Lao people in the country will buy these organic things to cooking everyday. It's kind of expensive to buy those organic compare to normal (toxic) veggi which is more cheapper




who say, organic food is expensive in Laos?  Is fish from Mekong river organic? is frog from the rice filed organic? chicken we raise at home is organic? vegetable that we grow at farm and we use dung is organic?

 

people are concerned about taste ,not vitamin or protein



Khonthakek, you misunderstand as other people also do misunderstand about ORGANIC

Organic mean pure. You think Mekhong river is pure water? Fishes eat healthy food? Frog in the rice field eat only toxic free bugs? Fish in the rice field is pure?

The answer is NO. In the rice field contain lots of toxin as Farmer using many kind of chemical to growing rice. They use water in the rice field to pour water to their veggi garden. This is not call the organic products.

If we want to grow the organic veggi we must leave the land and do nothing with the land for 2-3 years to let the rain flow through and flush out these toxin from the land

And then you can start to put the Calcium Hydroxide (Poon-Khao) to revise the condition of the soil and change the soil from acid condition to be alkaline condition (This take another 3-6 months)

Then you can start to put the organic fertilizer (It's not cow or buffalo manure) for minimum of 1-3 months and then you can start to do the 100% pure Organic farming and you must cover the area of farming. The farmer need to take care and look after it from the pre-growing till they send to the buyer in Supermarket. 

That's why the organic products in the supper market is more expensive than non-organic products

This included in Organic Chicken, Ducks, Cow farming etc


 



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khonthakek wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

If Lao doing the Organic farms so we need to export to oversea only. I don't think Lao people in the country will buy these organic things to cooking everyday. It's kind of expensive to buy those organic compare to normal (toxic) veggi which is more cheapper




who say, organic food is expensive in Laos?  Is fish from Mekong river organic? is frog from the rice filed organic? chicken we raise at home is organic? vegetable that we grow at farm and we use dung is organic?

 

people are concerned about taste ,not vitamin or protein



Khonthakek, you misunderstand as other people also do misunderstand about ORGANIC

Organic mean pure. You think Mekhong river is pure water? Fishes eat healthy food? Frog in the rice field eat only toxic free bugs? Fish in the rice field is pure?

The answer is NO. In the rice field contain lots of toxin as Farmer using many kind of chemical to growing rice. They use water in the rice field to pour water to their veggi garden. This is not call the organic products.

If we want to grow the organic veggi we must leave the land and do nothing with the land for 2-3 years to let the rain flow through and flush out these toxin from the land

And then you can start to put the Calcium Hydroxide (Poon-Khao) to revise the condition of the soil and change the soil from acid condition to be alkaline condition (This take another 3-6 months)

Then you can start to put the organic fertilizer (It's not cow or buffalo manure) for minimum of 1-3 months and then you can start to do the 100% pure Organic farming and you must cover the area of farming. The farmer need to take care and look after it from the pre-growing till they send to the buyer in Supermarket. 

That's why the organic products in the supper market is more expensive than non-organic products

This included in Organic Chicken, Ducks, Cow farming etc


 

 




OK!! i think we can't find the organic food in Laos then since  the farmer has never done as you mentioned above, you have said was right and perfectly correct, but what i said also organic, perhaps it is totally different with real definition of organic. my definition of organic is something without chemical manure.  something come from nature and without any operation by human



-- Edited by khonthakek on Friday 5th of February 2010 02:04:47 PM

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Farmers use human urine and animal feces on the vegetable.  That is why it look so green.  Make sure you wash them really good and boil it extra hot before eating it.


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Farmers use human urine and animal feces on the vegetable.  That is why it look so green.  Make sure you wash them really good and boil it extra hot before eating it.


Chinese people using more than just human's urine deh 555555555

 



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Anonymous wrote:

 


Farmers use human urine and animal feces on the vegetable.  That is why it look so green.  Make sure you wash them really good and boil it extra hot before eating it.


Chinese people using more than just human's urine deh 555555555

 

 




human poop..55555



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khonthakek wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

 

khonthakek wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

If Lao doing the Organic farms so we need to export to oversea only. I don't think Lao people in the country will buy these organic things to cooking everyday. It's kind of expensive to buy those organic compare to normal (toxic) veggi which is more cheapper




who say, organic food is expensive in Laos?  Is fish from Mekong river organic? is frog from the rice filed organic? chicken we raise at home is organic? vegetable that we grow at farm and we use dung is organic?

 

people are concerned about taste ,not vitamin or protein



Khonthakek, you misunderstand as other people also do misunderstand about ORGANIC

Organic mean pure. You think Mekhong river is pure water? Fishes eat healthy food? Frog in the rice field eat only toxic free bugs? Fish in the rice field is pure?

The answer is NO. In the rice field contain lots of toxin as Farmer using many kind of chemical to growing rice. They use water in the rice field to pour water to their veggi garden. This is not call the organic products.

If we want to grow the organic veggi we must leave the land and do nothing with the land for 2-3 years to let the rain flow through and flush out these toxin from the land

And then you can start to put the Calcium Hydroxide (Poon-Khao) to revise the condition of the soil and change the soil from acid condition to be alkaline condition (This take another 3-6 months)

Then you can start to put the organic fertilizer (It's not cow or buffalo manure) for minimum of 1-3 months and then you can start to do the 100% pure Organic farming and you must cover the area of farming. The farmer need to take care and look after it from the pre-growing till they send to the buyer in Supermarket. 

That's why the organic products in the supper market is more expensive than non-organic products

This included in Organic Chicken, Ducks, Cow farming etc


 

 




OK!! i think we can't find the organic food in Laos then since  the farmer has never done as you mentioned above, you have said was right and perfectly correct, but what i said also organic, perhaps it is totally different with real definition of organic. my definition of organic is something without chemical manure.  something come from nature and without any operation by human



-- Edited by khonthakek on Friday 5th of February 2010 02:04:47 PM

Local people don't have much education about Organic. Why you have to care about selling these products to them?

You have other choices if you wont be able to export your Organic things to oversea so you still have the way to sell it.

Sale it to the luxury hotels and luxury restaurants in Laos where foreigner stay who more concern about their health. I'm sure if you have good presentation about your Organic things and I'm sure you will be their supplier

Or if you open the store in the market so then you just put the sign in front of your shop that you shop selling only organic things with premium grade so I believed that Foreigner who's living and working in Laos will go and buy from your store everyday and also the local wealthy family as well

But it will take time



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yes right, my cousin grows some vegetable on the bank of Mekong river where the soil is very rich and it is good for any plants to grow. but the problem is we don't have the market for organic vegetable and those vegetable are full in the market at the same time so, we had to throw it away since we couldn't sell it all. we rely on nature too much.



 Actually there is a huge market out there... I mean outside Laos. The green revolution is currently on the rise with all these issues on global warming, etc, etc. and more and more people are becoming health conscious due to high cost of health care. Lao authorities just need to do some aggressive marketing and figure out how to bring the goods to town centers, and from town to the city or directly transport them out into the external supply chain. Being landlocked its probably more tricky but as the saying goes.. if there is a will there is a way!

If they can find ways to get those products out at a lower cost, then that could provide some income for local farmers. Or maybe repackage the goods so they will have longer shelf life. Like Thailand is known for exporting dehydrated fruits, etc. Im not sure though if its possible to have dehydrated organic vegetable or fruits or if it’s still considered healthy... ....Why not! Any experts here???


 



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khonthakek wrote:

yes right, my cousin grows some vegetable on the bank of Mekong river where the soil is very rich and it is good for any plants to grow. but the problem is we don't have the market for organic vegetable and those vegetable are full in the market at the same time so, we had to throw it away since we couldn't sell it all. we rely on nature too much.



 Actually there is a huge market out there... I mean outside Laos. The green revolution is currently on the rise with all these issues on global warming, etc, etc. and more and more people are becoming health conscious due to high cost of health care. Lao authorities just need to do some aggressive marketing and figure out how to bring the goods to town centers, and from town to the city or directly transport them out into the external supply chain. Being landlocked its probably more tricky but as the saying goes.. if there is a will there is a way!

If they can find ways to get those products out at a lower cost, then that could provide some income for local farmers. Or maybe repackage the goods so they will have longer shelf life. Like Thailand is known for exporting dehydrated fruits, etc. Im not sure though if its possible to have dehydrated organic vegetable or fruits or if it’s still considered healthy... ....Why not! Any experts here???


 



The proplem is we need somebody doing very good in marketing and presenting about our premium rganic products. They must change the image of the poverty Lao hat we have high quality and safty products to sale

 



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