Is Vientiane already developed ?

Date: Feb 25, 2010

Is Vientiane already developed ?

SeeHarHed · Guru

So? You're saying Laos has everything already? You think Laos has reached their potential?? That jumbo in the middle of picture sure makes Laos look like a well developed country biggrin

. The jumbo also gives that lovely smell in the air.

Date: Feb 25, 2010

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Destined · Senior Member

although vientiane is very beautiful to answer your quest is no...

our capital city and economic hub of the country is no where near its potential i would say they reached 5 % to 10 % of what they can and should be if they were left alone without destruction or war.

but despite all the troubles went through vietniane is pretty nice

Destined · Senior Member

i also forgot to mention that it is definably heading in the correct direction.

laos for lao. smile

Date: Feb 25, 2010

Destined wrote:

i also forgot to mention that it is definably heading in the correct direction.

laos for lao.

What does definably mean? I have looked into the dictionary and can't find this word in there. Can you help?

chiip · Guru

Yes definable is : to fix, toset or settle, to limit, to stipulate, fixture...
Destined is right ! we are not at the half of our destination, the tall buildings Xugly ones) are not the meaning of developmant, the real development is the good planning of infrastructure : health care and potable water for people in remote area, education for all ( at least for obligatory primary school) better traffic regulation improvement. You see when the mekong river dried dowm we still are not able to drain it to the nampapa pumps while there's plenty of water flowing down to the sea ? why don't we make a big concreted canal to bring water to the pumps ? so we still need the help of foreigner to do that Oh ! my god ! and we said vientiane is developed ? then you are myope or blind my brother !

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

ຍັງເບິ່ງຄືເມືອງຮ້າງຢູ່

ເຈົ້າກໍ່ເວົ້າໂພດ ຄ່ອຍມີສີສັນແລ້ວເດ ທຽບໃສ່ແຕ່ປີ1975-1985

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Look like Vientiane has many new building.
I guess we are already developed

Our economy should've been kick it off ever sine we got Independent from France in 46, Because our politicians played a mind games with our own people. Either it was Left or Right, even upthere from the Royal Families....... and so on and on....Now, at the Present time. you blame me and i blame you. Et............ we as lao, need to stop this Bull-**** thing........

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Speak-out wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Look like Vientiane has many new building.
I guess we are already developed

Our economy should've been kick it off ever sine we got Independent from France in 46, Because our politicians played a mind games with our own people. Either it was Left or Right, even upthere from the Royal Families....... and so on and on....Now, at the Present time. you blame me and i blame you. Et............ we as lao, need to stop this Bull-**** thing........

brother. SO, i am confused Laos got independent from france in 1954 or 46???

bip_01 · Senior Member

Developed? It looks really messy and dirty =X

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Look like Vientiane has many new building.
I guess we are already developed

Our economy should've been kick it off ever sine we got Independent from France in 46, Because our politicians played a mind games with our own people. Either it was Left or Right, even up there from the Royal Families....... and so on and on....Now, at the Present time. you blame me and i blame you. Et............ we as lao, need to stop this Bull-**** thing........
brother. SO, i am confused Laos got independent from france in 1954 or 46???

We declared for the independent in 1949 but not fully recognized in 1954 after the Indochina war was ended.

Date: Feb 26, 2010

this is a central vientiane where you can show the world that, Laos capital, some chinese who never been to Laos asked me " Laos is developed as shenzhen or guangzhou?" damn and we are poor and we dont have such high building i said... come on.. laos is next to china, why are those chinese a little smart?? yawn

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ຍັງເບິ່ງຄືເມືອງຮ້າງຢູ່

ເຈົ້າກໍ່ເວົ້າໂພດ ຄ່ອຍມີສີສັນແລ້ວເດ ທຽບໃສ່ແຕ່ປີ1975-1985

I'm just telling it like it is that's all. smile

Date: Feb 26, 2010

Big building and high rises are not a sign of developed town
or a country for example: Detroit, Houston, LA....ect...There are
nothing more then bunch of slums. The poor, the drug pushers
and users are moving in meanwhile the rich educated one are
moving out to the skirt of the town. Do you really think that Laos
is heading to the right direction? Please think again.

Date: Feb 26, 2010

As you see, no more buffalo or cow walking around in the downtown of Vientiane already! We are developed from that level already hahaha
biggrin

Date: Feb 27, 2010

The new look of Vientiane biggrin

Date: Feb 27, 2010

I'm agree that nowaday Laos is getting better in Economy than before which is good, but if we compare Laos to others counrties i think Laos is still Developing Country

Date: Feb 28, 2010

Laos is one of the FEW most natural and beautiful countries left in this world, but it so dang expensive to fly there!!!! Will cost me about 2k on airfare, once I get there, what the hell am i going to have left for spending money. Is there a cheaper way of getting there.

Date: Feb 28, 2010

yes , Vientiane is already developed like Bangkok 80years ago.

Dark Angel · Guru

Vientiane 2200

Date: Feb 28, 2010

Noway! this video clip is not Vientiane Laos!
The picture up there on top of page is true Vientiane
Because i remember the red and wite building at conner's have been there
since 1960!! there is no new bulding here!
Why you lie to people?

eye_sky · Guru

Nope it isn't, but thats how I like it. Relaxed and laidback.

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2010/03/everyday-tokyo-japan-through-my-eyes.html

Date: Feb 28, 2010

Date: Feb 28, 2010

Any where else photos beside The Monument and That Luang Vientiane.

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Noway! this video clip is not Vientiane Laos!
The picture up there on top of page is true Vientiane
Because i remember the red and wite building at conner's have been there
since 1960!! there is no new bulding here!
Why you lie to people?

the video clip is Saigon, Ho-Chiminh City Vietnam

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Noway! this video clip is not Vientiane Laos!
The picture up there on top of page is true Vientiane
Because i remember the red and wite building at conner's have been there
since 1960!! there is no new bulding here!
Why you lie to people?
the video clip is Saigon, Ho-Chiminh City Vietnam

Vietnamese city of Phu My Hung new city of vietnam.

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Dark Angel wrote:

Vientiane 2200

during that time, people already moved out of this planet, while Lao still living on earth, can't afford to buy spaceship!!

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Look like Vientiane has many new building.
I guess we are already developed
Our economy should've been kick it off ever sine we got Independent from France in 46, Because our politicians played a mind games with our own people. Either it was Left or Right, even up there from the Royal Families....... and so on and on....Now, at the Present time. you blame me and i blame you. Et............ we as lao, need to stop this Bull-**** thing........
brother. SO, i am confused Laos got independent from france in 1954 or 46???
We declared for the independent in 1949 but not fully recognized in 1954 after the Indochina war was ended.

Well, Brother you maybe right But, not quiet.. The begining of the end of French control over Indochina came in early than we thought . When France fell to Germany in 1940 . After the French defeat, Japan obtained the right to station troops in Indochina and the right to used Airfields there , and promised in return to leave intact the French civil service and security forces rayal to vichy.. President Roosevelt tried unsuccessfully to effect the withdraowal of Japanese forces by means of a plan to make Indochina a ''Neutralized area.'' On July 24, 1941, he approached the Japanese Ambassador in Washington with this proposal: If Japan would maked a commitment to regard Indochina as a ''Neutralized area.'' with the understanding that '' the powers concerned would not undertake any military act of aggression against Indochina and would not exercise any military control within or Indochina,'' he would do everything within his power,'' to obtain from the Allies the same comitment. The End of the Protctorate.... On March 9, 1945, the Japanese forces in Indochina ruptured their agreement with Vichy and staged a Coup de main against the French, imprisoning all French civil servants and soldiers. a handfull escape into the mountains, managed to make their way northward over rough trails to China, and declared themselves for the free French. The Japanese proclaimed an end to the colonial regimes in Vietnam,Laos,Cambodia... In 1941, Chao Phetsarath had held the title of Viceroy. At the time the Crown Prince(Savang Vatthana) was removed from Laos, Chao Phetsarath was also Priminister. Clearly, he was the second most powerfull political figure in Laos after the King Sisavang Vong, When, on the August31, the former French senior Resident was released from prison in Vientiane, where he has been placed by the Japanese, Chao Phetsarath informed him that , the Vinchy government having gone out of existence, there was no possibility of his resuming his powers. the next day, without informing the King in Luang-Pabang, Phetsarath officially reaffirmed the April 8 royal proclaimationof Independence from France. He followed up this on September 15 with declaration proclaiming the union of the Kingdom of Luang-Pabang and Champassack and other territories of Southern Laos in Single, independent Kingdom of Laos... On September 17, however, he received a telegram signed by a high palace official informing him that the King regarded the protectorate as still in force. according to one of the Chao Phetsarath's supporters, The King was forced to send this telegram by a French agent who has parachuted into Luang-Pabang a few days previously. whatever the case, the telegram proved acutely embarrassing to Chao Phetsarath , and it provoked considerable anger against the King when the people learned of it. A defense committee was established. Next, on October 10, a massage from Luang Pabang informed Chao Phetsarath that his titles of Viceroy and Priminister had withdrawn. Two days later, On October 12, 1945, the Defense Committee voted a provisional Constitution, Formed a Provisional People's Assembly, and nominated a government, to be known as the ''Lao-Issara,'' ( Free-Laos) Under the premiership of another princely official in Vientiane, Phaya Khammao, Who had been governor of Vientiane Province. and Souvanna Phouma was made Minister of Public Works.... Now, Brother know why i said our Country got Independent from French in 46..... Correct me again if i'm wrong.....

Dark Angel · Guru

Laos under the French

The colonial era began in the 1859 with the French conquest of Sài Gòn. In 1862 Việt King Tự Đức was forced to cede control of the south, which became the Protectorate of 'Cochinchina’. Two years later King Norodom agreed to the establishment of the Protectorate of Cambodia, which was upgraded 20 years later to the status of a colony. By the late 1880s Protectorates of 'Annam' (central Việt Nam) and 'Tonkin' (north Việt Nam) had also been created. By this time the French had resolved to annex the Lao territories, believing they held deposits of precious metals and that the Mekong River offered a 'back door' into China. They were also concerned to prevent their imperial rival Britain from manipulating Siamese interests in the region and eager to pacify the mountainous north, which from the 1870s had been periodically disturbed by armed bands of renegade Black, Yellow and Striped Flag mercenaries from China.

In 1886 France signed a treaty with Siam establishing a vice consulate in Luang Prabang under Auguste Pavie, and in the following year the French staked their claim to the kingdom based on its status as a tributary of Việt Nam, which they already controlled. When Luang Prabang was sacked in 1887 by a joint force of Tai Khao and Chinese Black Flag rebels under Sip Song Chu Tai leader Kham Hum (Đèo Văn Trị), French troops rode in and rescued King Oungkham (1868-1895), who gratefully accepted French protection for his kingdom.

In 1893, with French gunboats menacing Bangkok, Siam reluctantly ceded all of the territories east of the Mekong to France. The central and southern provinces were initially incorporated as one of the five associated regions of Indochina, while the northern kingdom of Luang Prabang remained a French protectorate, but in 1899 all of the Lao territories became a single administrative unit. Further agreements with Siam in 1904 and 1907 added parts of Sayaburi and Champassak provinces west of the Mekong to French Indochina. The province of Houaphanh was appended to Luang Prabang in 1933.

The French approach to colonial administration in Laos has been described as one of 'benign neglect'. Headed by a Résident supérieur based in Vientiane, the colonial government was staffed by only a few hundred French civil servants at any given time, and while the royal court in Luang Prabang continued to manage its own affairs, the day-to-day running of the territories was entrusted largely to Vietnamese civil servants in Vientiane. Meanwhile since there was no industry to speak of and agriculture was barely self-sufficient, there was little money for infrastructural development such as roads, schools and hospitals.

Ironically it was the French themselves who unwittingly sponsored the idea of modern nationhood amongst the disparate Lao territories, primarily in an attempt to remove the Lao people from the cultural orbit of neighbouring Siam, which increasingly aspired to the creation of a 'Greater Siam' made up of all the Tai-speaking territories. During the 1930s and 1940s, through the auspices of a small French-educated Lao elite, Lao language and literature was promoted and the first Lao-language Lao history books appeared in print. During this period too, in recognition of the central educational role of Buddhism in Laos, efforts were made to reorganise and give national character to the Lao Buddhist sangha through the establishment of Buddhist Institutes in Vientiane (1929) and Luang Prabang (1932), the restoration of Ho Phra Keo and the promotion of Vientiane's Wat Sisakhet and Wat Ong Tu as centres of Buddhist ceremonial. In the early 1940s a Service de propagande Lao was set up to 'awaken the Lao national spirit', and in the so-called Samay Funefou Xat era which followed the French government launched a bi-weekly newspaper called Lao Nyai ('Great Laos'), which ran poetry competitions celebrating Lao culture and history and contained features which sought to trace the 'glorious lineage of the modern Lao' back to the kingdom of Lane Xang.

The events of World War II forever shattered the image of French supremacy, giving fresh impetus to nationalistic sentiment in Laos. Following the Japanese occupation of French Indochina in March 1945, King Sisavangvong was obliged to declare an independent state, but when the Japanese surrendered five months later he quickly moved to re-establish the French protectorate. At this juncture Prime Minister and Hereditary Uparat (Viceroy) Prince Phetsarath took over leadership of Lao Issara ('Free Laos') - a resistance movement originally formed against the Japanese - and in open defiance of the king proclaimed an independent and unified Laos in September 1945. King Sisavangvong responded by dismissing Prince Phetsarath and was subsquently placed under house arrest and forced by the National Assembly to abdicate. However, in March 1946, at the request of Lao Issara, the king re-ascended the throne as constitutional monarch of all the Lao territories.

Notwithstanding these events, the Allies had decided that the French should return, and just a few days after the king's coronation French paratroopers moved north from Champassak to Thakhek, where they defeated a joint Lao Issara-Việt Minh force led by Prince Phetsarath's half-brother Prince Souphannavong. Re-occupying Vientiane and Luang Prabang in April 1946, the French endorsed the unity of Laos as a constitutional monarchy within the French Union, and in the following year elections were held which led to the appointment of the first Royal Lao Government. However, the Việt Minh subsequently stepped up their offensives against French rule in Việt Nam, and in the years which followed the French government realised that if it was to preserve any of its former empire it would have to lighten its colonial burden. Prince Phetsarath and his half-brothers Prince Souphannavong and Prince Souvanna Phouma, who had fled to Siam in 1946 to set up a Lao Issara government-in-exile, were therefore invited to enter into formal negotiations for the granting of greater autonomy to Laos. The more moderate Prince Souvanna Phouma subsequently returned under amnesty to Vientiane where he helped draw up the Convention of 1949, which recognised Laos as an 'independent associate state' within the French Union. However, neither Prince Phetsarath nor Prince Souphannouvong were satisfied with French conditions for independence; Prince Phetsarath subsequently made his home in Thailand, while Prince Souphannouvong returned to north west Việt Nam and in alliance with the Việt Minh established a resistance movement known as the Lao Patriotic Front (Neo Lao Hak Xat), which quickly established a firm foothold in the north eastern provinces of Houaphanh and Phongsali.

In 1953 the French government granted full sovereignty to both Cambodia and Laos. Early the following year French forces suffered a calamitous defeat at Điện Biên Phủ, obliging them to sue for peace at the Geneva Conference of 1954, the terms of which ended French involvement in South East Asia and effected the fateful division of neighbouring Việt Nam along the 17th parallel between the communist north and the capitalist south.

Date: Mar 1, 2010

By 1975 Laos had fallen into the hands of the communists and it remains a communist country today. Over the next 15 years Laos remained closely allied to the Vietnamese. Though not officially, to all extents and purposes Laos had become a Vietnamese colony and was slowly forced to relinquish its economic connections with neighbouring countries. However, 1989 saw a relaxation of these restrictions and by 1997 Laos had become a member of the ASEAN.

Up until the late 1990’s Laos had generally been closed to foreign tourists but in 1999, with the national economy at an all time low, Laos developed a revolutionary advertising campaign to attract travellers into the country. Though this was not a complete success, tourism is now becoming vital to the local economy making your visit all the more rewarding because you’ll be helping the country toward a brighter future.

http://www.i-to-i.com/volunteer-guide-laos.html

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:
By 1975 Laos had fallen into the hands of the communists and it remains a communist country today. Over the next 15 years Laos remained closely allied to the Vietnamese. Though not officially, to all extents and purposes Laos had become a Vietnamese colony and was slowly forced to relinquish its economic connections with neighbouring countries. However, 1989 saw a relaxation of these restrictions and by 1997 Laos had become a member of the ASEAN.
Up until the late 1990’s Laos had generally been closed to foreign tourists but in 1999, with the national economy at an all time low, Laos developed a revolutionary advertising campaign to attract travellers into the country. Though this was not a complete success, tourism is now becoming vital to the local economy making your visit all the more rewarding because you’ll be helping the country toward a brighter future.

http://www.i-to-i.com/volunteer-guide-laos.html

So Is Laos still Vietnamese colony ?

all extents and purposes Laos had become a Vietnamese colony and was slowly forced to relinquish its economic connections with neighbouring countries. However, 1989 saw a relaxation of these restrictions

Date: Mar 1, 2010

Indirectly Laos is still Vietnamese colony.

Date: Mar 1, 2010

I could not believe that in 21st century Laos is still Vienamese coclony.

By 1975 Laos had fallen into the hands of the communists and it remains a communist country today. Over the next 15 years Laos remained closely allied to the Vietnamese. Though not officially, to all extents and purposes Laos had become a Vietnamese colony and was slowly forced to relinquish its economic connections with neighbouring countries. However, 1989 saw a relaxation of these restrictions and by 1997 Laos had become a member of the ASEAN

http://www.i-to-i.com/volunteer-guide-laos.html

Fransisco · Newbie

Only the frogs in the well can tell. yawn