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  Hopefully Vietnam and china could work it out peacefully . War is nothing good but death and disaster for man kind. Now China is very strong in economical success and with moder Navy , air force with moder spy satellite and also radar planes and the biggest army in the world . Chinese will easily walk thru Laos to invade Vietnam from the rear which no land mine and no defend and nothing that Russian could do to stop China.



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Who dare to challenge China today ? Not the Russian and not the United States and not now for sure. When Russian has the problem with Georgia and the United States are busy at economic at home and hand full with Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Egypt and other middle East countries. So Vietnam must be on her own. So which side should Laos be ? Vietnam or China ?



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Who dare to challenge China today ? Not the Russian and not the United States and not now for sure. When Russian has the problem with Georgia and the United States are busy at economic at home and hand full with Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Egypt and other middle East countries. So Vietnam must be on her own. So which side should Laos be ? Vietnam or China ?


 If there's god I'm sure none of this would have taken place for sure!!!



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Who dare to challenge China today ? Not the Russian and not the United States and not now for sure. When Russian has the problem with Georgia and the United States are busy at economic at home and hand full with Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Egypt and other middle East countries. So Vietnam must be on her own. So which side should Laos be ? Vietnam or China ?


 

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Who dare to challenge China today ? Not the Russian and not the United States and not now for sure. When Russian has the problem with Georgia and the United States are busy at economic at home and hand full with Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Egypt and other middle East countries. So Vietnam must be on her own. So which side should Laos be ? Vietnam or China ?


 Brother Darkangel is me Speakout, how're U ?  I enjoy reading all the posts that you put it here. But couple of thing that I have to disgree with you bro. When you said quote '' Who dare to challenge China today ? Not Russian and Not U.S.A.''  Wrong brother, you totally wrong  on this military thing...  The United State is the world's lone superpower, with military muscle un-matched by any other country and a tendecy to impose its will in all corners of the planet- we're even trying to dominate outer space. So it bears asking: Who really running world ?  On the surface, atleast, its hard not come up with a simple answer. The United State of America... China still far behind military. Yes maybe they got more man power.

As for Russian, Russia's resurgence as a strategic actor and a new cold war player is widely discussed in the United Kingdom and asia. Russia Prime Minister Vladimir Putin during his presidency made unbelieve economic and military progress. In the Uk intellectual circle the resurgence of Russia in the international arena is considered a big issue of the near future. Russia's new policy direction and particularly its nascent interest in alternative energy- is important because Russia is such a large energy exporter. During his Presidency, Vladimir Putin took several actions indicating that the country plans to reclaim its position as military power on the globalscale. Russian bombers were back on long range patrols, and Submarine crew recently planted a Russian flag on the seabed beneath the Northpole. So in my personal opinion, Russia remain one of the world leading military power. Its second only to the United State in Newclear weapons (which is China can't matched) and Russia remain strongest power in Europe and Asia interms of its conventional ground, Air, and Naval forces, alsop Russia still has troops and Base in central Asia like: Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus...

As for Vietnam and China issue,  for  months, concern ha been growing over China's aggressiveness  in claiming a major portion of the South China Sea as its own lake. last and perhaps most serious, China's U shaped line,  Which arbitrarily encircles most of the South China Sea.  creates maritime disputes between  it and Brumei, Malaysia, the Philippine, Vietnam, Indonesia, and potentially all the countries in the world, all of which have the rights in the South China Sea as granted by the UN convention. as for China, clearly this is part of a divide-and conquer strategy. China is hoping that its opponents will succumb one by one and accept less than equitable solutions. also, by insisting on an unsuitable approach, China is effectively blocking progress towards a negotiated settlement. as the strongest country in the disputes by far, the absence of peaceful  settlement gives China increasing  opportunities to strenghten its position and weaken those of the other claimants. therefore, blocking progress towards a negotiated settlement by insisting  on an unsuitable mechanism of negotiation works to China's advanctage... So Is China playing game with these fellow Asians, Yes they did... and keep doing it over and over. and Yes its South China Sea but it doesn't mean it all belong to China, Period.

 



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I am with China 100% .



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Who dare to challenge China today ? Not the Russian and not the United States and not now for sure. When Russian has the problem with Georgia and the United States are busy at economic at home and hand full with Iraq , Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Egypt and other middle East countries. So Vietnam must be on her own. So which side should Laos be ? Vietnam or China ?


 Brother Dark Angel is me Speak Out, how're U ?  I enjoy reading all the posts that you put it here. But couple of thing that I have to disagree with you bro. When you said quote '' Who dare to challenge China today ? Not Russian and Not U.S.A.''  Wrong brother, you totally wrong  on this military thing...  The United State is the world's lone superpower, with military muscle unmatched by any other country and a tendency to impose its will in all corners of the planet- we're even trying to dominate outer space. So it bears asking: Who really running world ?  On the surface, atleast, its hard not come up with a simple answer. The United State of America... China still far behind military. Yes maybe they got more man power.

As for Russian, Russia's resurgence as a strategic actor and a new cold war player is widely discussed in the United Kingdom and asia. Russia Prime Minister Vladimir Putin during his presidency made unbelieve economic and military progress. In the Uk intellectual circle the resurgence of Russia in the international arena is considered a big issue of the near future. Russia's new policy direction and particularly its nascent interest in alternative energy- is important because Russia is such a large energy exporter. During his Presidency, Vladimir Putin took several actions indicating that the country plans to reclaim its position as military power on the globalscale. Russian bombers were back on long range patrols, and Submarine crew recently planted a Russian flag on the seabed beneath the North Pole. So in my personal opinion, Russia remain one of the world leading military power. Its second only to the United State in Nuclear weapons (which is China can't matched) and Russia remain strongest power in Europe and Asia in terms of its conventional ground, Air, and Naval forces, Alsop Russia still has troops and Base in central Asia like: Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus...

As for Vietnam and China issue,  for  months, concern ha been growing over China's aggressiveness  in claiming a major portion of the South China Sea as its own lake. last and perhaps most serious, China's U shaped line,  Which arbitrarily encircles most of the South China Sea.  creates maritime disputes between  it and Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippine, Vietnam, Indonesia, and potentially all the countries in the world, all of which have the rights in the South China Sea as granted by the UN convention. as for China, clearly this is part of a divide-and conquer strategy. China is hoping that its opponents will succumb one by one and accept less than equitable solutions. also, by insisting on an unsuitable approach, China is effectively blocking progress towards a negotiated settlement. as the strongest country in the disputes by far, the absence of peaceful  settlement gives China increasing  opportunities to strengthen its position and weaken those of the other claimants. therefore, blocking progress towards a negotiated settlement by insisting  on an unsuitable mechanism of negotiation works to China's advantage... So Is China playing game with these fellow Asians, Yes they did... and keep doing it over and over. and Yes its South China Sea but it doesn't mean it all belong to China, Period.

 


  I see your point of views and thank you brother Speak Out for your comment. I hope that the war would never happen .If it happens that will not be like in 1979 and 1980 and also for sure, it also will not be like the United States occupied Iraq and Afghanistan which the American people  are demanding the US government to bring the troop home every days but  the China will occupy  Vietnam  and Laos  permanently with 300  or 400 million  Chinese like occupied Tibet . If the war happens for sure that the Chinese will go thru Laos to invade Vietnam from the rear and do what ever it take to win the war and to prevent of losing face like in 1979 and 1980. Nothing that Laos could do to stop the Chinese army and tanks to go thru Laos. Hopefully that the war would never happen and it is so stupid to have the war in the the 21st century over any things and no matter what . I don't believe that Russia and the United States will dare to do any things while The United Stated have done to other countries and also the Russia have done to Georgia and other as well. The history is quiet the same as how the world war ll started .



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Tuesday 14th of June 2011 07:02:11 AM

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Just only hope that both sides could be settled peacefully.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Tuesday 14th of June 2011 02:42:12 PM

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