"Why so much hatred, bad language, and what not? Thai and Lao are brothers, both Tai people descended from groups that originated in Southern China. We are both Buddhist people, but you guys here try to promote hatred instead of following thamma and being polite and respectful!
Here's the truth about the two languages: BOTH Lao and Thai have Khmer, Sanskrit and Chinese loanwoards. Tai people in China do not have many Khmer or Sanskrit words, so neither Thai or Lao can claim to be closer to the original. Consonant clusters are present in some Tai languages in China, but Lao people have lost most of them due to changes in language. Thai people preserve these in loanwords from Khmer and Sanskrit. That's why Lao people think Vientiane is 'City of the Moon' when really the 'tiane' means 'sandalwood', because they simplified the spelling. Plus, Laos has their Khmer influences, I'm sure when Fa Ngum brought all the dancers, courtesans, artists, and sculptors from Khmer Kingdom that clearly they influenced Laos.
BOTH Thai and Lao alphabets are based on modifications to Khmer alphabet, which was heavily influenced by India. I think we can thank the Khmer and Cham for introducing Ramakien and Phra Lak Phra Ram and the Thaen Hindu and Brahman customs to both Thai and Lao people. Look at Lao and Thai last name! So long, very similar word from Sanskrit via Khmer, like Singh, Jun, Vong, etc.
BOTH Lao and Thai are mutually intelligible to some extant. Maybe Lao people can understand Thai better because they have more exposure to Thai than most Thai to Laos, it's called ASSYMETRIC INTELLIGIBILITY. The same happens with Portuguese and SPanish, 90% of the words are the same, maybe pronounced a little different, but Portuguese-speaking people generally understand Spanish better than the other way around.
Both Lao and Thai people are TAI people, TAI is the word that almost all peoples from Yunnan to the Ahom in Assam, India to almost Malaysia use to refer to themselves, even Lao people say they are 'Tai'. So why the big fuss?
Isan, or Northeastern Thai, is really just the Lao language. Isan was mostly settled very recently (17th to 19th century) because Siam conquered Laos and forced Lao people to move to Isan. Although it was settled earlier by Khmer and during Lanxang time, MOST of the people are more recent. Probably why my grandparents in northern Yasothorn province have accent like Vientiane people, but my relatives in Ubon speak more like Champasak. Why? My ancestors in Yasothorn were originally from Vientiane area and my relatives in Ubon originally were from Champasak! Isan used to be part of Laos, and not connected to the rest of Thailand until education and roads reached in the late 60s, even in the census, Isan people were considered Lao! Since Isan people are no longer educated in Lao, and cannot write Lao, it is amazing we still speak Lao, but obviously learning Thai at school means we speak Lao with Thai influence, so Thai people treat us like Lao, and Lao treat us like we're not really Lao, but a name change didn't stop Isan people from saying 'maen bo', 'changdai', 'eehlee', 'jao' and 'der'; didn't stop us from eating 'padaek', 'jaewbong', 'khao nio', and 'tammakhoong'; and didn't mean that morlam got rid of the khaen! Hell, I still sing 'Khap Thum Luang Phabang' and 'Lam Mahaxai', so .... whatever, I am Lao and come from Thailand, call me buk sio.
Maybe we hate each other because we are so similar, but for 1/3 the population of Thailand, Lao language is 'phasa nai baan', and Lao culture keeps us unique as we sing 'lam tang vai' and dance to 'lam phouthai'.
Anyhow, although Thailand has more Chinese influence, Laos has a lot more Vietnamese influence, like sometimes calling 'guatio' as 'pho' and saying 'het viak' instead of 'het ngan', but these are natural as Laos is closer to Vietnam and was influenced by Vietnam politically and Thailand (especially Bangkok) has a huge population of khon jin.
Huk song paendin, but I think many of you guys forgot about love and now turn to hate." - written by BukThaiLao back in 2009.
What do think? Is it time to move on and except the reality on the ground or fight on until justice is served? Who's side a you on - Palestinians or Israeli?
"Why so much hatred, bad language, and what not? Thai and Lao are brothers, both Tai people descended from groups that originated in Southern China. We are both Buddhist people, but you guys here try to promote hatred instead of following thamma and being polite and respectful!
Here's the truth about the two languages: BOTH Lao and Thai have Khmer, Sanskrit and Chinese loanwoards. Tai people in China do not have many Khmer or Sanskrit words, so neither Thai or Lao can claim to be closer to the original. Consonant clusters are present in some Tai languages in China, but Lao people have lost most of them due to changes in language. Thai people preserve these in loanwords from Khmer and Sanskrit. That's why Lao people think Vientiane is 'City of the Moon' when really the 'tiane' means 'sandalwood', because they simplified the spelling. Plus, Laos has their Khmer influences, I'm sure when Fa Ngum brought all the dancers, courtesans, artists, and sculptors from Khmer Kingdom that clearly they influenced Laos.
BOTH Thai and Lao alphabets are based on modifications to Khmer alphabet, which was heavily influenced by India. I think we can thank the Khmer and Cham for introducing Ramakien and Phra Lak Phra Ram and the Thaen Hindu and Brahman customs to both Thai and Lao people. Look at Lao and Thai last name! So long, very similar word from Sanskrit via Khmer, like Singh, Jun, Vong, etc.
BOTH Lao and Thai are mutually intelligible to some extant. Maybe Lao people can understand Thai better because they have more exposure to Thai than most Thai to Laos, it's called ASSYMETRIC INTELLIGIBILITY. The same happens with Portuguese and SPanish, 90% of the words are the same, maybe pronounced a little different, but Portuguese-speaking people generally understand Spanish better than the other way around.
Both Lao and Thai people are TAI people, TAI is the word that almost all peoples from Yunnan to the Ahom in Assam, India to almost Malaysia use to refer to themselves, even Lao people say they are 'Tai'. So why the big fuss?
Isan, or Northeastern Thai, is really just the Lao language. Isan was mostly settled very recently (17th to 19th century) because Siam conquered Laos and forced Lao people to move to Isan. Although it was settled earlier by Khmer and during Lanxang time, MOST of the people are more recent. Probably why my grandparents in northern Yasothorn province have accent like Vientiane people, but my relatives in Ubon speak more like Champasak. Why? My ancestors in Yasothorn were originally from Vientiane area and my relatives in Ubon originally were from Champasak! Isan used to be part of Laos, and not connected to the rest of Thailand until education and roads reached in the late 60s, even in the census, Isan people were considered Lao! Since Isan people are no longer educated in Lao, and cannot write Lao, it is amazing we still speak Lao, but obviously learning Thai at school means we speak Lao with Thai influence, so Thai people treat us like Lao, and Lao treat us like we're not really Lao, but a name change didn't stop Isan people from saying 'maen bo', 'changdai', 'eehlee', 'jao' and 'der'; didn't stop us from eating 'padaek', 'jaewbong', 'khao nio', and 'tammakhoong'; and didn't mean that morlam got rid of the khaen! Hell, I still sing 'Khap Thum Luang Phabang' and 'Lam Mahaxai', so .... whatever, I am Lao and come from Thailand, call me buk sio.
Maybe we hate each other because we are so similar, but for 1/3 the population of Thailand, Lao language is 'phasa nai baan', and Lao culture keeps us unique as we sing 'lam tang vai' and dance to 'lam phouthai'.
Anyhow, although Thailand has more Chinese influence, Laos has a lot more Vietnamese influence, like sometimes calling 'guatio' as 'pho' and saying 'het viak' instead of 'het ngan', but these are natural as Laos is closer to Vietnam and was influenced by Vietnam politically and Thailand (especially Bangkok) has a huge population of khon jin.
Huk song paendin, but I think many of you guys forgot about love and now turn to hate." - written by BukThaiLao back in 2009.
What do think? Is it time to move on and except the reality on the ground or fight on until justice is served? Who's side a you on - Palestinians or Israe
LAOS & SIAM never felt in love each other.it is good so if they still hate each other!!!
"Why so much hatred, bad language, and what not? Thai and Lao are brothers, both Tai people descended from groups that originated in Southern China. We are both Buddhist people, but you guys here try to promote hatred instead of following thamma and being polite and respectful!
Here's the truth about the two languages: BOTH Lao and Thai have Khmer, Sanskrit and Chinese loanwoards. Tai people in China do not have many Khmer or Sanskrit words, so neither Thai or Lao can claim to be closer to the original. Consonant clusters are present in some Tai languages in China, but Lao people have lost most of them due to changes in language. Thai people preserve these in loanwords from Khmer and Sanskrit. That's why Lao people think Vientiane is 'City of the Moon' when really the 'tiane' means 'sandalwood', because they simplified the spelling. Plus, Laos has their Khmer influences, I'm sure when Fa Ngum brought all the dancers, courtesans, artists, and sculptors from Khmer Kingdom that clearly they influenced Laos.
BOTH Thai and Lao alphabets are based on modifications to Khmer alphabet, which was heavily influenced by India. I think we can thank the Khmer and Cham for introducing Ramakien and Phra Lak Phra Ram and the Thaen Hindu and Brahman customs to both Thai and Lao people. Look at Lao and Thai last name! So long, very similar word from Sanskrit via Khmer, like Singh, Jun, Vong, etc.
BOTH Lao and Thai are mutually intelligible to some extant. Maybe Lao people can understand Thai better because they have more exposure to Thai than most Thai to Laos, it's called ASSYMETRIC INTELLIGIBILITY. The same happens with Portuguese and SPanish, 90% of the words are the same, maybe pronounced a little different, but Portuguese-speaking people generally understand Spanish better than the other way around.
Both Lao and Thai people are TAI people, TAI is the word that almost all peoples from Yunnan to the Ahom in Assam, India to almost Malaysia use to refer to themselves, even Lao people say they are 'Tai'. So why the big fuss?
Isan, or Northeastern Thai, is really just the Lao language. Isan was mostly settled very recently (17th to 19th century) because Siam conquered Laos and forced Lao people to move to Isan. Although it was settled earlier by Khmer and during Lanxang time, MOST of the people are more recent. Probably why my grandparents in northern Yasothorn province have accent like Vientiane people, but my relatives in Ubon speak more like Champasak. Why? My ancestors in Yasothorn were originally from Vientiane area and my relatives in Ubon originally were from Champasak! Isan used to be part of Laos, and not connected to the rest of Thailand until education and roads reached in the late 60s, even in the census, Isan people were considered Lao! Since Isan people are no longer educated in Lao, and cannot write Lao, it is amazing we still speak Lao, but obviously learning Thai at school means we speak Lao with Thai influence, so Thai people treat us like Lao, and Lao treat us like we're not really Lao, but a name change didn't stop Isan people from saying 'maen bo', 'changdai', 'eehlee', 'jao' and 'der'; didn't stop us from eating 'padaek', 'jaewbong', 'khao nio', and 'tammakhoong'; and didn't mean that morlam got rid of the khaen! Hell, I still sing 'Khap Thum Luang Phabang' and 'Lam Mahaxai', so .... whatever, I am Lao and come from Thailand, call me buk sio.
Maybe we hate each other because we are so similar, but for 1/3 the population of Thailand, Lao language is 'phasa nai baan', and Lao culture keeps us unique as we sing 'lam tang vai' and dance to 'lam phouthai'.
Anyhow, although Thailand has more Chinese influence, Laos has a lot more Vietnamese influence, like sometimes calling 'guatio' as 'pho' and saying 'het viak' instead of 'het ngan', but these are natural as Laos is closer to Vietnam and was influenced by Vietnam politically and Thailand (especially Bangkok) has a huge population of khon jin.
Huk song paendin, but I think many of you guys forgot about love and now turn to hate." - written by BukThaiLao back in 2009.
What do think? Is it time to move on and except the reality on the ground or fight on until justice is served? Who's side a you on - Palestinians or Israeli?
On behave of all Laotian 99% we always love and care all Lao Isan people but Lao Isan themselves are denies they have said they do not want to be Lao when i talk to about 10 Lao isan people only about 1 or 2 people spok Lao with me the rest they pretending do not know how to speak Lao sham on you Lao isan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a Lao. I don't think we will ever see eye to eye ever!! We both are like 100mile away from each other and both in a different path to the future. Also Thai Isan don't even respect their own heritage anymore because many thinks its too dirty and not worth of caring for anymore. And for those Thai from Bangkok they have no respect and appreciation for the Lao culture,language,costume,tradition,heritage and history for the Lao people.
We have no gain or hope because our own culture and people are being exploited and blame for among the Thai society in Bangkok as bad profile or uneducated. Watch the old Lakorn and other Thai media who portrayed Lao people as servant,criminals,drug dealers, and etc... but they never looked at their own people especially them ChineseThai who has no respect for the Lao people at all. Not even one bit. These ThaiChinese are the part of the root issue among the Thai society we see today.
Also I think it is too late to even considered our relationship with Thailand as Love or hate relation. It's far more worst then that if you look deeper. And we Lao aren't the only one who has this feeling. Look at Thailand neighbors who has ill feeling about Thai people as a whole as well. Also do not try to put Lao people with these barbaric uneducated Thai who has no desire to learn anything about us. These people are very ignorant and closed minded.
I'm sorry it is quite true to what I say. At least some of this explanation I have given here. Also I'm not here to burst out anyone bubble, just keep and open mind about some aspect.
As a Lao. I don't think we will ever see eye to eye ever!! We both are like 100mile away from each other and both in a different path to the future. Also Thai Isan don't even respect their own heritage anymore because many thinks its too dirty and not worth of caring for anymore. And for those Thai from Bangkok they have no respect and appreciation for the Lao culture,language,costume,tradition,heritage and history for the Lao people.
We have no gain or hope because our own culture and people are being exploited and blame for among the Thai society in Bangkok as bad profile or uneducated. Watch the old Lakorn and other Thai media who portrayed Lao people as servant,criminals,drug dealers, and etc... but they never looked at their own people especially them ChineseThai who has no respect for the Lao people at all. Not even one bit. These ThaiChinese are the part of the root issue among the Thai society we see today.
Also I think it is too late to even considered our relationship with Thailand as Love or hate relation. It's far more worst then that if you look deeper. And we Lao aren't the only one who has this feeling. Look at Thailand neighbors who has ill feeling about Thai people as a whole as well. Also do not try to put Lao people with these barbaric uneducated Thai who has no desire to learn anything about us. These people are very ignorant and closed minded.
I'm sorry it is quite true to what I say. At least some of this explanation I have given here. Also I'm not here to burst out anyone bubble, just keep and open mind about some aspect.
you're right brother! Lao & Siamese might speak similarly languages but we do not have the same feelling & many things not in common ( heart & mind ) and never believe that we ( Lao & Siamese ) are brothers!! let just compare between U.S American and Canadian they're different in many way despite speaking the same languages!!!
If Laos is more developed country and be a strong country as same as South Korea or Singapore, all Lao people in Esan Thailand would be happy to be Lao with us by without asking them to do so. Just don't pay attention to the people who ignore us or who's confusing themselves to be Lao in front of you.
With Isaan, respectfully I'll have to highly disagree with some of you brothers/sisters. Considering they've been ruled by the Thai governments for over 200 years and facing the full might of the government's propaganda machines and media, under difficult circumstances they're doing pretty well with keeping the Lao culture, language, etc.... Some of them may not admit to being Lao due to various reasons but that's ok. We need to rise above our hurts and be better human beings by showing them our loves and support. All is not lost.
Around the world many many other ethnic groups that have been conquered and ruled have lost their identities, cultures, languages.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
The reasonf or Thai Isan to be the way they are now is because Thai from Bangkok or mainstream Thai thinks being Lao would just give them a bad profile as being uneducated people.
Just like those Southern Thai from Pattani Thailand who is being discriminated and profile in a negative ways among the Thai mainstream to be accepted as Thai. Thailand national pride has only destroyed their true identity, but also their culture,heritage,history and language of their ancestors.
Which is why you see so many of these Thai Isan who are a shame of that word Lao because Thailand education system has also taught them so. Also it is not about Siamese anymore, but them ChineseThai are apart of this root cause the first place.
Most Thai Bangkok are now half Chinese who now think Lao people are bad element or anything Lao is fake. These Siamese and those Chinese half have no respect for us Lao people as a whole and it doesn't matter if you set the truth right in their face.
They will just turn the blind eyes and say you are stupid people and uneducated bluntly! That's what ChineseThai see Lao people as when you called yourself Lao that is. Even the Slang Words for "Lao" was all started by Chinese Thai people. They have no class or mannerism at all regards towards Lao people. Believe me its the inside truth!
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
The reasonf or Thai Isan to be the way they are now is because Thai from Bangkok or mainstream Thai thinks being Lao would just give them a bad profile as being uneducated people.
Just like those Southern Thai from Pattani Thailand who is being discriminated and profile in a negative ways among the Thai mainstream to be accepted as Thai. Thailand national pride has only destroyed their true identity, but also their culture,heritage,history and language of their ancestors.
Which is why you see so many of these Thai Isan who are a shame of that word Lao because Thailand education system has also taught them so. Also it is not about Siamese anymore, but them ChineseThai are apart of this root cause the first place.
Most Thai Bangkok are now half Chinese who now think Lao people are bad element or anything Lao is fake. These Siamese and those Chinese half have no respect for us Lao people as a whole and it doesn't matter if you set the truth right in their face.
They will just turn the blind eyes and say you are stupid people and uneducated bluntly! That's what ChineseThai see Lao people as when you called yourself Lao that is. Even the Slang Words for "Lao" was all started by Chinese Thai people. They have no class or mannerism at all regards towards Lao people. Believe me its the inside truth!
Right, the Siamese are the most racist and poisionous folk against thier own people as well as in this region!! Anyway, LAO people are more smarter and more better than in the last century! ther're no way that the SIAMESE would look down on LAO people in this century. we are so proud of being LAO even more than before!thanks!!
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
The reasonf or Thai Isan to be the way they are now is because Thai from Bangkok or mainstream Thai thinks being Lao would just give them a bad profile as being uneducated people.
Just like those Southern Thai from Pattani Thailand who is being discriminated and profile in a negative ways among the Thai mainstream to be accepted as Thai. Thailand national pride has only destroyed their true identity, but also their culture,heritage,history and language of their ancestors.
Which is why you see so many of these Thai Isan who are a shame of that word Lao because Thailand education system has also taught them so. Also it is not about Siamese anymore, but them ChineseThai are apart of this root cause the first place.
Most Thai Bangkok are now half Chinese who now think Lao people are bad element or anything Lao is fake. These Siamese and those Chinese half have no respect for us Lao people as a whole and it doesn't matter if you set the truth right in their face.
They will just turn the blind eyes and say you are stupid people and uneducated bluntly! That's what ChineseThai see Lao people as when you called yourself Lao that is. Even the Slang Words for "Lao" was all started by Chinese Thai people. They have no class or mannerism at all regards towards Lao people. Believe me its the inside truth!
Right, the Siamese are the most racist and poisionous folk against thier own people as well as in this region!! Anyway, LAO people are more smarter and more better than in the last century! ther're no way that the SIAMESE would look down on LAO people in this century. we are so proud of being LAO even more than before!thanks!!
You should think abount how to develop Lao country much be better. why Lao still poor country? SO many issue waiting Lao people to do and resolve. Please back to help develop Lao country. Man...
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
The reasonf or Thai Isan to be the way they are now is because Thai from Bangkok or mainstream Thai thinks being Lao would just give them a bad profile as being uneducated people.
Just like those Southern Thai from Pattani Thailand who is being discriminated and profile in a negative ways among the Thai mainstream to be accepted as Thai. Thailand national pride has only destroyed their true identity, but also their culture,heritage,history and language of their ancestors.
Which is why you see so many of these Thai Isan who are a shame of that word Lao because Thailand education system has also taught them so. Also it is not about Siamese anymore, but them ChineseThai are apart of this root cause the first place.
Most Thai Bangkok are now half Chinese who now think Lao people are bad element or anything Lao is fake. These Siamese and those Chinese half have no respect for us Lao people as a whole and it doesn't matter if you set the truth right in their face.
They will just turn the blind eyes and say you are stupid people and uneducated bluntly! That's what ChineseThai see Lao people as when you called yourself Lao that is. Even the Slang Words for "Lao" was all started by Chinese Thai people. They have no class or mannerism at all regards towards Lao people. Believe me its the inside truth!
Right, the Siamese are the most racist and poisionous folk against thier own people as well as in this region!! Anyway, LAO people are more smarter and more better than in the last century! ther're no way that the SIAMESE would look down on LAO people in this century. we are so proud of being LAO even more than before!thanks!!
Yes we are doing right now but not only developeing the country but respect our neibours too!!
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
Most IsanThai are a shame of themselves for being Lao. They even make fun of their own kin just to gain just special attention among Thai mainstreams. I wouldn't be surprised that they will used IsanThai on the Lao in Laos for political cause and trying to make Thai history a true fact. We already know Thailand uses history as a number 1# factor to gain nationalism while at the process disregard its neighbors history as fake or Unreliable.
Also they are trying to bring the Thai king image into our Lao brother and sister inside Laos and used that "His Majesty Law" within Laos. Lao people have to understand that we don't have to praise the Thai king and his family like god in Thailand. Also we must watch carefully about those Thai nationalist going into Laos because they are the main problems for the unrest in the future of Laos social stability. We need to put these Thai nationalist in checked when ever they enter Laos or start some sort of the Thai king worship organization because that's just a beginning of the whole social chaos.
This is Laos and we aren't apart of this Thai major mental breakdown for praising his image all over Laos. Laos is Laos and we are free from lies. Thai thinks, Thai means free but in this case their mindless thought has eroded for what they been taught among the Thailand education system.
My endless question since i knew the world is. Why Lao esan are so ashame of themselves for just being REAL LAO?! are they not PROUD of being LAO? but instead of this they seem more PROUDLY of being the Secondclass & Slave for the SIAMESE for so long! it's so sad for them all!!
The reasonf or Thai Isan to be the way they are now is because Thai from Bangkok or mainstream Thai thinks being Lao would just give them a bad profile as being uneducated people.
Just like those Southern Thai from Pattani Thailand who is being discriminated and profile in a negative ways among the Thai mainstream to be accepted as Thai. Thailand national pride has only destroyed their true identity, but also their culture,heritage,history and language of their ancestors.
Which is why you see so many of these Thai Isan who are a shame of that word Lao because Thailand education system has also taught them so. Also it is not about Siamese anymore, but them ChineseThai are apart of this root cause the first place.
Most Thai Bangkok are now half Chinese who now think Lao people are bad element or anything Lao is fake. These Siamese and those Chinese half have no respect for us Lao people as a whole and it doesn't matter if you set the truth right in their face.
They will just turn the blind eyes and say you are stupid people and uneducated bluntly! That's what ChineseThai see Lao people as when you called yourself Lao that is. Even the Slang Words for "Lao" was all started by Chinese Thai people. They have no class or mannerism at all regards towards Lao people. Believe me its the inside truth!
Right, the Siamese are the most racist and poisionous folk against thier own people as well as in this region!! Anyway, LAO people are more smarter and more better than in the last century! ther're no way that the SIAMESE would look down on LAO people in this century. we are so proud of being LAO even more than before!thanks!!
You should think abount how to develop Lao country much be better. why Lao still poor country? SO many issue waiting Lao people to do and resolve. Please back to help develop Lao country. Man...
we have suffered over century of bloody battles-many of tragedies,like becoming the most bombed country in the world.we just not had anychance to develope our country.we should not compare Laos with other countries in the world or our neighbouring countries, exp=Thai-Siam had never suffered bloody War or any tragedies like Laos! they had plenty of time for building thier country. now our LAOS is soo peaceful, we just got the time that we've lost in the past back,we're moving on,slowly but sure and selft-confident to built our beautiful!!! thanks.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
The only idiot in here is YOU my dear and please seek for a better school to increase your vocabulary so you don't have to resort to GIBBERISH...
Typical "THAI" Isan. Want Lao to accept them. If Lao do not, they get mad. Lao Isan killed CHao Annouvong. Isan Lao are traitor of Lao race. They are happy to by Thai citizen.
As for Jek Thai Bangkok. All they care about is money. They do not care about Isan, Lao, Cambodian. Just as long as Jek Thai stay in power, they very do not care.
To all Lao Nok and Lao Nai. Be very careful to accept Esan people. They are Thai citizen, and they will betray Lao people like they betrayed Chao Annouvong.
Esan people are THai citizen. THey have no Lao in them. They are just to lazy to speak central Thai like they were force to do by the Jek King Bhumibol. Esan are being used by the Yellow and Red shirt Jek for their own strugle for power.
Esan are used up tired and old.
Lao people have a chance to stand on their own feet, and be peaceful, and culturely repected people.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
The only idiot in here is YOU my dear and please seek for a better school to increase your vocabulary so you don't have to resort to GIBBERISH...
Listen up buc humnoi if you had bothered to check it was as clear as day that my vocabulary is evidently far more superior than yours. I am not here to discuss about your lack of writing skill but admittedly as English is not my first language nor is it my mother tongue I'm not perfect in it neither. However reluctantly I have to say that you're an arrogant and a bigot SOB. Humility goes a long way in this world.
Wecan dobetter thanLaos. We have aculturethat isbetter than you. Laostoseeus. Yousee Laos culture from us.
Laos40 millionpeopleare here and the mostin the world
Stop shout!!! you is littleLaos.
youdo not deserve call laos
i call you Viet NamWest
from คนอีสาน
Bro!!! khon Esan,
You got show us if you said that Laos40 millionpeopleare here and the mostin the world, but you sold all to thai siam and they have all destroyed your better culture already and look at you, 40 million lao still slavery and pittiful.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
The only idiot in here is YOU my dear and please seek for a better school to increase your vocabulary so you don't have to resort to GIBBERISH...
Listen up buc humnoi if you had bothered to check it was as clear as day that my vocabulary is evidently far more superior than yours. I am not here to discuss about your lack of writing skill but admittedly as English is not my first language nor is it my mother tongue I'm not perfect in it neither. However reluctantly I have to say that you're an arrogant and a bigot SOB. Humility goes a long way in this world.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
The only idiot in here is YOU my dear and please seek for a better school to increase your vocabulary so you don't have to resort to GIBBERISH...
Listen up buc humnoi if you had bothered to check it was as clear as day that my vocabulary is evidently far more superior than yours. I am not here to discuss about your lack of writing skill but admittedly as English is not my first language nor is it my mother tongue I'm not perfect in it neither. However reluctantly I have to say that you're an arrogant and a bigot SOB. Humility goes a long way in this world.
Gibberish...
You're now resorting to using a one word sentence. So much for someone who's been to a "better school".
Wecan dobetter thanLaos. We have aculturethat isbetter than you. Laostoseeus. Yousee Laos culture from us.
Laos40 millionpeopleare here and the mostin the world
Stop shout!!! you is littleLaos.
youdo not deserve call laos
i call you Viet NamWest
from คนอีสาน
HI KHON ESAAN,
IT TOOK ME 3 DAYS TO MAKE MY DECISION TO HELPING YOU CLEAR YOUR HEAD BEFORE YOU WENT DEEPER AND DEEPER WRONG TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL LAO PEOPLE. YOU MAY RIGHT IF SAID THERE ARE 40 MILLION ARE IN THAILAND AND MORE THAN ANY COUNTRY THAT LAO PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE.
IF YOU COULD, WOULD YOU ANSWER ME MY QUESTIONS?
- ARE LAO ESAAN PEOPLE BEING THAILAND FIRST CLASS CITIZEN?
- DO LAOS ESAAN IN THAILAND HAVE THEIR OWN ALPHABETS? OR " ARK-SORN XAD "?
- HOW LONG BEFORE LAO ESAAN PEOPLE HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY SAME AS THAI SIAM AFTER THEY TOOK THEM FROM LAOS LANE XANG?
LAOS IS A SINGLE COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD OF LAO PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TERRITORY, CULTURE WITH NO MIX WITH ANY OTHER CULTURE. LAOS HAVE THEIR OWN ALPHABETS OR ( ARKSONE XAD ).
LAO PEOPLE IN THE OVERSEA , IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA OR EVEN IN JAPAN OR CHINA AND INDIA, ARE STUDYING LAO LANGUAGE ( PHASA LAO ) AND ( ARKSORN LAO ). I DON'T ANY LAO OVERSEA ARE STUDYING THAI AS THEIR '' ARKSORN '' OR ALPHABETS IN ENGLISH.
LAO PEOPLE IN THAILAND NOT EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN VAYAKORN OR ARKSORN XAD BUT THAI GOVERNMENT FORCED THEM TO STUDY THAI OR SIAM LANGUAGE INSTEAD. LOOK A GOOD SAMPLE FROM LAO PEOPLE IN LANNA CHINA, THEY ARE STILL HAVE THEIR OWN LAO LANNA ALPHABETS TO SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE LAO PEOPLE AND CHINESE GOVERNMENT NOT BANNED THEM NOT TO KEEP AND TEACH LAO TO THEIR NEW GENERATIONS LIKE THAI OR SIAM GOVERNMENT HAVE DONE TO LAO PEOPLE IN THAILAND.
HOW DARE YOU SAID THAT LAO ESAAN PEOPLE ARE REAL KHONLAO?
It seems that we still haven't learned or changed since the days of our split into 3 separate kingdoms (Luang Prabang, Viengchan and Champasak). We're now still having 3 separate entities for Lao people (Lao in Laos, Lao in Isaan, and Lao overseas) bickering among ourselves. Chao Fa Ngum must be turning in his grave, so to speak. Please do away with our village base mentalities.
Why you care sooo much how Thai people feel about us. It's not worth it. Get a
life and moves on. Laos will moves forward without Isan. That's all I know.
Geez what a conversation killer and a party pooper you are. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn but if one wants to move on one must talk about it before having a closure.
It doesn't sound like you want to move on since you're still bringing up the past my dear!
Idiot! A lot of discussion subjects here are also about the past. People that study history mustn't have moved on then according to your little brain. It seems to me that you're the one who can't move on because you can't get over your bitterness and hatred. Bird brain! calling yourself Lao Nok. Is that a bird?
The only idiot in here is YOU my dear and please seek for a better school to increase your vocabulary so you don't have to resort to GIBBERISH...
Listen up buc humnoi if you had bothered to check it was as clear as day that my vocabulary is evidently far more superior than yours. I am not here to discuss about your lack of writing skill but admittedly as English is not my first language nor is it my mother tongue I'm not perfect in it neither. However reluctantly I have to say that you're an arrogant and a bigot SOB. Humility goes a long way in this world.
Gibberish...
You're now resorting to using a one word sentence. So much for someone who's been to a "better school".
Lao and Thai are not brother. Thailand and Thai race was created in 1939.
Prior to that it was called Siam and the race were Siamese.
Siamese are Chinese from Jek KIng Taksin, then continue with Jek CHakri, Lao, Khmer, Mon, Malay,Lanna, Burmese, and many other race all mixed together.
THe only brother relationship are Esan Lao with Thai nationality. Because the 16 provinces of Esan were Lao Lan Xang land. Nakon Phanom was built by Lao Monarchy, the Siamese later change to name to what it is today. Esan today have many ethnic from SEA whom assimilated into the Esan culture and called themselves Esan.
Thai and Lao are not brother.
Asked those Lao refugees, if Thai and Esan are Lao brother. Lao refugees was mistreated, beat, rape, robbed, by their so call brother during the Vietnam War. Many were thrown overboard the Mekong, after the Thai stole their jewely.
Thai and Lao are not brother.
Laos PDR has move on. So Lao should also move on. Thai and Lao are just neighbors.
Lao people have a soft heart for Esan. When Lao people hear Lao language spoken or through music, it hit them inside their heart. Because Esan was Lao Lan Xang land, the Royal Lao built Esan. And Lanna dress the same, speak the same, eat the same food, and once part of Lan Xang Kingdom, prior the Siamese ocuppation.
Say that. Esian, Lanna, are no longer Lao. They are no longer Lao brother. They are happy being Siamese race, then Later in 1939, they were happy to convert to Thai race. Krung Teb may treat them like second class citizen. But that is Thai problem. They rather die being Thai race and serve their king then being Lao.
We already see laos culture from you that lao culture became dirty culture and thai siam turns into whoreland. we see you that laos 40 million people are powerless in there and second class to thai siam bank****. we see that you always be slavery by thai siam. no matter what you see lao 6 million always do better without Esann because we are one Laos.
Lao people must watch out back when it come to Esan Thai. They cannot be trusted anymore since they can portrayed us again like the past. Its better if we have nothing to do with Esan or Thailand at all among our Lao social community in Laos. Also remember that Lao oversea still love our brother and sister in Laos and yes must of our parents were treated like animals during our parents escape to freedom in Thailand. Thai Esan and Siamese weren't too nice with us because they think we are savage and uneducated people. Some even think we are slave people because we call ourselves Lao. Also remember that Thai used "Lao" as a slang to insult among Thai society. How much worst can Thai in general get with Lao people image????
We already see laos culture from you that lao culture became dirty culture and thai siam turns into whoreland. we see you that laos 40 million people are powerless in there and second class to thai siam bank****. we see that you always be slavery by thai siam. no matter what you see lao 6 million always do better without Esann because we are one Laos.
YOU ARE BETTER, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ****. YOUR ENGLISH IS ****TY.
This book below decribe prostitutions, Siam, and Chinese how they came about as early as the year 1800.
It decribed how Chinese male and female became prostitutes in SEA. Later these Chinese women married to SEA men to become Siamese(THai), when the Chinese General Chakri renamed his capture land "Siam" and the people in these land are called "Siamese".
The book described Siamese(Thai) men and women would served workers of Singarpore railroads, Siamese women would served rich Chinese business men, along with other ethnic and foreign men.
This should set the record straight. Siam(Thailand) and Siamese(Thai) was the whorehouse of SEA for 1000 years. I hope the Siamese can read English.
Believe me its the inside truth!
