IF LAO DO'NT SUPPORT LAO .HOW COULD WE CALL OURSELF LAOTIAN .THAN WE SHOULD STAND UP AND SAID I AM PROUD TO BE LAO .PROUD TO SUPPORT LAOS .PROUD TO HELP LAOS AND NO MATTER WHERE WE AT LAOS ALWAYS IN OUR HEART
IF LAO DO'NT SUPPORT LAO .HOW COULD WE CALL OURSELF LAOTIAN .THAN WE SHOULD STAND UP AND SAID I AM PROUD TO BE LAO .PROUD TO SUPPORT LAOS .PROUD TO HELP LAOS AND NO MATTER WHERE WE AT LAOS ALWAYS IN OUR HEART
Lao oversea support Laos 100%. Don't count Hmong. They are citizens of Laos but they are not Lao.
It is Lao back in homland that don't want Lao oversea help. Look and read at all the comment you see on this forum. Lao back in homeland really really does not like Lao oversea. Read all my comments and replied. You see how I tried to reconcile with our Lao brothers back home but they don't want to make peace. My thought is that Laos is moving up the economic ladder. More Lao are making money, driving big SUV and live in huge mansion. They don't really care if Lao oversea help or not. There are many Lao oversea helping Lao back home in rural area but they are not being recognized. So sad.
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"Because I criticized Laos government and it policies, it does not mean I want Laos to remain poor nor do I think Lao people are lazy or uneducated."
IF LAO DO'NT SUPPORT LAO .HOW COULD WE CALL OURSELF LAOTIAN .THAN WE SHOULD STAND UP AND SAID I AM PROUD TO BE LAO .PROUD TO SUPPORT LAOS .PROUD TO HELP LAOS AND NO MATTER WHERE WE AT LAOS ALWAYS IN OUR HEART
Lao oversea support Laos 100%. Don't count Hmong. They are citizens of Laos but they are not Lao.
It is Lao back in homland that don't want Lao oversea help. Look and read at all the comment you see on this forum. Lao back in homeland really really does not like Lao oversea. Read all my comments and replied. You see how I tried to reconcile with our Lao brothers back home but they don't want to make peace. My thought is that Laos is moving up the economic ladder. More Lao are making money, driving big SUV and live in huge mansion. They don't really care if Lao oversea help or not. There are many Lao oversea helping Lao back home in rural area but they are not being recognized. So sad.
I'm a Lao Nork , I'm not to be such pretentious saying Lao Nork support 100% Lao Nai economy!
They are, many of them, much more richer than you, YOU Lao Falang or Lao American; with a higher life's level with excellent work's environment while many Lao Nork run hard after their jobs, wake up daily at 5 AM in a frozen morning day, and return back home after the job at 9 PM , traffic jams, snows on the highways, absolutely tired; each day is the same because you have to pay your house's loan, yes your 50 year-loan of course ! Is this you called PROGRESS ?
IF LAO DO'NT SUPPORT LAO .HOW COULD WE CALL OURSELF LAOTIAN .THAN WE SHOULD STAND UP AND SAID I AM PROUD TO BE LAO .PROUD TO SUPPORT LAOS .PROUD TO HELP LAOS AND NO MATTER WHERE WE AT LAOS ALWAYS IN OUR HEART
Lao oversea support Laos 100%. Don't count Hmong. They are citizens of Laos but they are not Lao.
It is Lao back in homland that don't want Lao oversea help. Look and read at all the comment you see on this forum. Lao back in homeland really really does not like Lao oversea. Read all my comments and replied. You see how I tried to reconcile with our Lao brothers back home but they don't want to make peace. My thought is that Laos is moving up the economic ladder. More Lao are making money, driving big SUV and live in huge mansion. They don't really care if Lao oversea help or not. There are many Lao oversea helping Lao back home in rural area but they are not being recognized. So sad.
I'm a Lao Nork , I'm not to be such pretentious saying Lao Nork support 100% Lao Nai economy!
They are, many of them, much more richer than you, YOU Lao Falang or Lao American; with a higher life's level with excellent work's environment while many Lao Nork run hard after their jobs, wake up daily at 5 AM in a frozen morning day, and return back home after the job at 9 PM , traffic jams, snows on the highways, absolutely tired; each day is the same because you have to pay your house's loan, yes your 50 year-loan of course ! Is this you called PROGRESS ?
The topic of discussion is Lao need to support other Lao.
Yes, I got it that you don't support Laos economy 100%. But what is your comment regarding me about.
Maybe there is a language barrier here.
-- Edited by Saffron at 20:35, 2007-11-26
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"Because I criticized Laos government and it policies, it does not mean I want Laos to remain poor nor do I think Lao people are lazy or uneducated."
All of you are just showing that Lao people do not support each other and they continue to be divide over the politics of a war that finished 30 years ago. Laos is WEAK because of this division and it is the fault of all of you.
it is a fact ! after 32 years we`re still divided....how many more years do we need to overcome this obtacle ? support ? we are not expecting any support from overseas... see in amerilao website ... you`ll see rude words insulting laonai and its leaders and invited all lao nok for strike in front of lao embassy in december 07...sad ! who support who ? we are deeply divided, inside like outside, super rich lao, rich lao one part, middle lao other part and poor lao another part, we aren`t united, we do no understand each other... United we stand and divided we`ll fall and die ...
it is a fact ! after 32 years we`re still divided....how many more years do we need to overcome this obtacle ? support ? we are not expecting any support from overseas... see in amerilao website ... you`ll see rude words insulting laonai and its leaders and invited all lao nok for strike in front of lao embassy in december 07...sad ! who support who ? we are deeply divided, inside like outside, super rich lao, rich lao one part, middle lao other part and poor lao another part, we aren`t united, we do no understand each other... United we stand and divided we`ll fall and die ...
You don't need to worry about those old people at AmeriLao webpage. They are in their late 40s and 50s. You think they have the same physical shape to fight anyone? They have hard time walking across Wal-Mart parking lot.
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"Because I criticized Laos government and it policies, it does not mean I want Laos to remain poor nor do I think Lao people are lazy or uneducated."
The Lao overseas do want to help Laos grow.Every Lao falang wants to see a prosperouse Laos, its just the Lao government is the problem. We lao falang live in countries where we can exercise our basic human rights freely.In the West we can voice our opinions about any issuse that we feel is not right. While in Laos, there's a good chance of punishment for speaking out. After all, when we left Laos, its not because the Lao government bought us plane tickets. It was because we had to flee for our lives.Would you want to help the government that tried to killed you?
you see ? the fact is here ! war had made incurable wounds to both ancient lao nok and laonai ... what a pity ! lao killed lao and lao hate lao ...perhaps, their new generation would have other though of the actual Lao PDR than their parents had...and lao nai`s children woud see lao nok in a better way ... and could one day support each other. Bonne soiree Saffron !
We lao falang live in countries where we can exercise our basic human rights freely.In the West we can voice our opinions about any issuse that we feel is not right.
French youths have been battling police for a second night in a suburb of Paris where two teenagers died after their motorcycle collided with a police car.
French police say more than 60 officers have been injured in the clashes, which lasted late into the night.
A state prosecutor has ordered a manslaughter inquiry into the deaths of the two teenagers in Villiers-le-Bel.
Local youths blame police for the deaths but police say the two teenagers were speeding and not wearing helmets.
The clashes come despite numerous appeals for calm, including one by President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is visiting China.
Several vehicles, including a police car, have been set on fire and there are reports that shots have been fired at police.
Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets to keep rioters at bay.
The violence follows Sunday night's clashes when about 30 cars and several buildings, including a police station, were torched in Villiers-le-Bel and neighbouring Arnouville.
Twenty-six police and fire officers were injured and nine people were arrested.
The clashes were reminiscent of nationwide riots in 2005, which followed the deaths of two youths in the nearby suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois.
A state prosecutor has ordered the National Police General Inspectorate (IGPN) - an oversight body - to carry out a detailed inquiry into the circumstances in which the two teenagers - named only as Moushin, 15, and Larami, 16, lost their lives.
Police sources say the early findings of the inquiry suggest the two officers involved in Sunday's incident are not to blame.
The motorcycle was going at its full speed, it was not registered for street use, the two teenagers were not wearing helmets and they ignored traffic rules, police officials said.
The police car was on a routine patrol and the teenagers were not being chased by police at the time of the accident, officials said.
The prosecutor who has ordered the investigation, Marie-Therese de Givry, told LCI television that the teenagers had turned into the path of the police car.
She said the officers immediately called emergency services to the scene.
Two witnesses are said to have confirmed this, but the teenagers' relatives and other local residents say the police did nothing to help the dying teenagers.
Breakdown in relations
President Sarkozy said he wanted "everyone to calm down and let the justice system decide who was responsible."
When he was interior minister in 2005, country-wide riots erupted after the electrocution of two teenagers from another Parisian suburb - Clichy-sous-Bois - in an electricity sub-station. They were reported to have been fleeing police at the time.
The trouble has highlighted the breakdown of relations between police and young people in many of France's poor suburbs, says the BBC's Alasdair Sandford in Paris.
Another example that France looks like a "hell". It would be an exaggeration to describe the French capital this week as a ghost town, but if you were a Parisian restaurant owner or a Parisian shop keeper you might be forgiven for doing so.
In my quarter, the popular pizza restaurant had to close because the chef and waiters could not get to work.
The boulangerie, usually stripped of its millefeuilles (custard pastry) and tartes aux fraises (strawberry tart) long before I get home from work, is still bulging with patisserie.
The baker tells me he is down 30-40% on sales because the usual customers did not dare risk being stranded in the city, and - instead - stayed home.
Every day he's different. One day he's Sarko the Friend of the Americans, the next he's Sarkozy the Worker, then he's Sarkozy the Victim, and sometimes he's just Napoleon
Jul, French satirical cartoonist
And in my local eight-till-late shop, the Moroccan shopkeeper grumbled it just was not worth stocking up on fresh produce - everyone was so tired after hours walking to and from work, they either did not bother to eat in the evenings or they just raided the freezer. It felt, he said, like there was a war on.
'Work more, earn more'
But it is a war that has long been on the horizon.
Students also rallied, protesting against education reforms
Nicolas Sarkozy's battle cries against the French public transport unions were audible way before he was elected president in May.
His entire election campaign was built around the maxim "Work more to earn more" and he made no secret of the fact that that included workers like train drivers who currently can retire on full pensions at least two-and-a-half years earlier than other public sector staff.
For their part the unions have been refusing to surrender and have been putting up an effective resistance - crippling the country with a nationwide bus, train and metro strike.
If past French history is anything to go by, it will be the unions who will win this war.
In 1995, after picking the same fight with transport workers over their pensions, President Jacques Chirac's government was forced to give in, exhausted by three weeks of industrial action.
'Fiercely protected right'
But President Sarkozy has something his predecessor never really had - the backing of the majority of the French people.
President Sarkozy has vowed to press ahead with his reforms
Earlier this week when I was out in the city watching a demonstration by transport workers, I was startled to hear vitriolic bystanders yell "Get back to work you selfish pigs!" rather than the more traditional words of solidarity "Allez mon frere, courage!"
Mr Sarkozy would be foolish to count on his troops, the French people who voted for him.
Yes, many French people are angry they could not get to work and therefore will not get paid. True, too, that many were frazzled with the daily hell of fighting their way onto a train platform, only to find out the one train that was due was now not coming at all.
But while they voted in a president with a mandate to reform their country, at the same time the French are not keen on suffering the pain of undergoing those changes for too long.
Feeling the pinch of the global rise in food and fuel prices, the ordinary French citizen is already complaining about the inadequacy of his salary.
The appetite for striking may be diminishing - in 1976 there were two-and-a-half times more days lost to industrial action than there were in 2005 - but the street protest is still a fiercely protected right, enshrined in the Constitution of the Fifth Republic.
The president is aware his "loyal" troops may not be wearing his colours for long.
'Chirac's son'
And what if Sarkozy himself proves to be a turn coat?
He has been described both wistfully and derogatorily as France's answer to Margaret Thatcher but when did the former UK prime minister who was not for turning sit down repeatedly with union bosses and offer pay increases in exchange for pension reform as Mr Sarkozy has already done?
When did Maggie nonchalantly throw a generous package of financial incentives to quell a troublesome strike as Mr Sarkozy has just done with angry fishermen in Brittany?
One of the leading French political magazines this week suggests he is not Mrs Thatcher's son at all, but Mr Chirac's.
Just before the strikes began, I interviewed Jul, a cartoonist from the satirical paper Charlie Hebdo, and asked him to draw me a Sarkozy caricature as a keepsake. His pen hesitated on the paper.
"I don't know how to portray him today," he explained. "Every day he's different. One day he's Sarko the Friend of the Americans, the next he's Sarkozy the Worker, then he's Sarkozy the Victim, and sometimes he's just Napoleon."
Perhaps, President Sarkozy is still in the process of working out who he wants to be, who his people expect him to be and how he wants history to remember him.
Public transport staff have now largely returned to work, pending further talks with the government but there are already murmurings of further strikes, with unionists pencilling dates in their diaries. This war is far from won.
Do you live in France to say that this coutry is like "hell"?
The events you report are very localised... they are not representative of my country, of, for sure i would have leave my country to go and live in Laos for a long time.
France is 60 Million of people. 10 time more than Laos.... so of course this mean that you can find in France 10 times more good things and events, but also 10 time more bad things/events.
If i want to talk bad about Laos, i could find many examples of bad things If i want to talk good about Laos, I can find more things again Same for my country, France or for any coutry in the world.
Aftermath of riots 
Every day he's different. One day he's Sarko the Friend of the Americans, the next he's Sarkozy the Worker, then he's Sarkozy the Victim, and sometimes he's just Napoleon 
