Vientiane today !

Date: Feb 23, 2008

Vientiane today !

samakomlao · Guru

Vientiane looks busy at night :)
Thank you for sharing these photos

Date: Feb 24, 2008

i think they should do something about those electrical wires...
it looks really tangled

Date: Feb 24, 2008

i hope our capital city can keep on growing, but i do also thnk that they need to do sumthing with the electrical wires and pretty soon well see newer buildings there.

Date: Feb 24, 2008

The only way to get rid of all the wires and cables is put them underground like other modern cities around the world. That'll cost a lot of money.

SeeHarHed · Guru

it is nice to see that... the helmet law is being enforce..

regarding those electrical, cable, telephone lines... it is fine the way it is, even though it is unpleasant to look at.. there are other areas that laos needs to focus on before putting all these lines underground.. such as... underground storm drain system... sewage system.. sewage treatment plants and better water treatment plants..

Date: Feb 25, 2008

It wasn't right this at all when I was there 22 year ago. Yes, it has changed a lot. But who cares, I never will going back there again.

FOREVER

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

It wasn't right this at all when I was there 22 year ago. Yes, it has changed a lot. But who cares, I never will going back there again.

FOREVER

well... good for you, if you don't care... it is your choice not to go back.. it sounds to me... you even regret of being LAO..

BUT!!! i do care.. i want my motherland to shine.. i want our laotian people living standard improves.

Date: Feb 25, 2008

Those wires could pose a problem in the future. Especially the way VT is growing right now.

Date: Feb 25, 2008

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

Date: Feb 26, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

Don't just imagine.That was happened 20 years ago. Why you just keep repeating what your father taught you? Now, things have been changed.

I think, Seeharhed knows that very well. Nobody would touch you if you don't harm Laos and Lao people.

Many Lao-foreign people come to visit Laos. So far, nobody have been caught, except the bad people who did not respect Lao law.

Date: Feb 26, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

I think the same. I want to go after college, make some money, live my life there (i hate the American way, so greedy, so selfish), but I am scared the government will get me, like they got the tourism company owner.

A good idea is to establish connection with people over seas via internet so when something does happen to you, ppl can get on your track ASAP.

I wholeheartedly believe the government should be scared of its people, and thats my reasoning to why the government "abducts" people for no reason.

Date: Feb 26, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

I think the same. I want to go after college, make some money, live my life there (i hate the American way, so greedy, so selfish), but I am scared the government will get me, like they got the tourism company owner.

A good idea is to establish connection with people over seas via internet so when something does happen to you, ppl can get on your track ASAP.
I wholeheartedly believe the government should be scared of its people, and thats my reasoning to why the government "abducts" people for no reason.

Oh! Nobody will touch you if you do nothing wrong, for sure. The fact that sombody were caught are because they acted against Lao law.

BTW, why should Lao government be scared of its people? It seems ridiculous. Lao people are not enemies of Lao government. Lao people love and respect its own government, no doubts.

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

Don't just imagine.That was happened 20 years ago. Why you just keep repeating what your father taught you? Now, things have been changed.

I think, Seeharhed knows that very well. Nobody would touch you if you don't harm Laos and Lao people.

Many Lao-foreign people come to visit Laos. So far, nobody have been caught, except the bad people who did not respect Lao law.

Yes!! alot of things has changed... Lao is trying to improve in alot of ways.. I have to give them credit for that... It might seems like they aren't doing anything due to the fact that they are so far behind most countries..

I have to agree with the Anonymous above wrote... nobody will harm you if you keep it to yourself... mind your own business, go there.. enjoy the foods and good time with relatives & friends..

just make sure you dont try to do anything stupid.... like.. buying drugs or smoking drugs.. and don't go around looking and offering anyone to sleep with you... you might get caught and it is pretty..

Date: Feb 26, 2008

you guys can go " Bor Mee Bun Ha". But if you are an ex -leader and soldiers be very careful make sure you don't want to go to re - education camp for the second time.

Here's a story I heard. This guy ( Lao american man) went to exchange $100 bill in Morning market, the woman who owned the shop went inside for a few minuets then came out and said your $100 bill is fake. If you don't go now I will call the police. So The lao - american man did not want to argue because he fear and he just let it go.

FOREVER

Date: Feb 26, 2008

Also if you go back to you village but was supprise it is no longer t here, due to mudslide caused my over cutting of tree from the land directly above you operate by foreigner who have 100% land right usage paid for millions of dollars,

DO NOT CUASE ANY PROBLEM OR INFORM POLICE OR ANY ORGANIZATION BECAUSE YOU WILL BE TAKEN AWAY. THAT IS CONSIDERING CAUSING TROUBLE.

Just go there and close your eyes to the corruption and abuse of officials power you see.

If you follow that simple rule you will have a fun time in LPDR.

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

you guys can go " Bor Mee Bun Ha". But if you are an ex -leader and soldiers be very careful make sure you don't want to go to re - education camp for the second time.

Here's a story I heard. This guy ( Lao american man) went to exchange $100 bill in Morning market, the woman who owned the shop went inside for a few minuets then came out and said your $100 bill is fake. If you don't go now I will call the police. So The lao - american man did not want to argue because he fear and he just let it go.

FOREVER

this is what i see in this situation... i'm not saying one is right and other is wrong.... but, first of all... you dont go around and try to make an exchange at some random shops in town... that's a NO NO!!! unless, your relatives or someone you know has been exchanged there for years.. a trustworthy shop.!! If you dont know anyone.. the safe place to do so is at the BANK..

that shop probably see an opportunity to make quick $100... he/she must think this guy is so new and not familar with the law... if the police shows up, i'm sure he will believe the shop before the tourist.. also, the cop might be on the pay roll from those shops..

I've been going back to laos so many times...I never have such a problem... only problem i have is... i ran out of $100 bills to make an exchange.. hahahhahhahah

Date: Feb 27, 2008

come on guys

i was born here in Laos, I am growing up in Laos. nobody is caught without doing some crime. people here are living happily. and I am sure you are welcome to visit Laos. and if you do not want to visit, it is fine and nobody cares.

regard

Date: Feb 27, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Seeharhed

I don't want to go back because law is not law over there. you don't know what will happen, they can accuse u for no reason.
If u go back to the country which u had ran away and something happen to u, the US govermant can not do any thing at all.

FOREVER

I think the same. I want to go after college, make some money, live my life there (i hate the American way, so greedy, so selfish), but I am scared the government will get me, like they got the tourism company owner.

A good idea is to establish connection with people over seas via internet so when something does happen to you, ppl can get on your track ASAP.
I wholeheartedly believe the government should be scared of its people, and thats my reasoning to why the government "abducts" people for no reason.

Oh! Nobody will touch you if you do nothing wrong, for sure. The fact that sombody were caught are because they acted against Lao law.

BTW, why should Lao government be scared of its people? It seems ridiculous. Lao people are not enemies of Lao government. Lao people love and respect its own government, no doubts.

In general, for a functioning government, a government that is for the people, the government should be scared of the people. Not literally, more as of "scared of the ideas" people could come up with, IE. Revolution, peaceful protests (Burma anyone?)

When I said it, I meant it as the government should respect the people.

There really is no justice system in Laos, if you slip once you're Fed, thats what I am scared of.

I'm not interested in Laos for fun. I'm interested in developing and helping the Lao society advance. The problem comes from what I see fit against what the government would see fit. I desire to help the people, but not accordingly towards the government and that is what is makes me scared.

Date: Feb 27, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not interested in Laos for fun. I'm interested in developing and helping the Lao society advance. The problem comes from what I see fit against what the government would see fit. I desire to help the people, but not accordingly towards the government and that is what is makes me scared.

Rubbish!. Stupid comment. You want to help Lao people, who are you?
Who is going to believe you? And BTW, who would need your help?

Date: Feb 27, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not interested in Laos for fun. I'm interested in developing and helping the Lao society advance. The problem comes from what I see fit against what the government would see fit. I desire to help the people, but not accordingly towards the government and that is what is makes me scared.
Rubbish!. Stupid comment. You want to help Lao people, who are you?
Who is going to believe you? And BTW, who would need your help?

I don't have to prove anything to you. You made no point at all with your post.

You people moan and ache that theres nothing going on in Laos and when I present my feelings to wanting to do something about it, criticism arises for no apparent reason.

Then again, only the strong rise above this type of stuff. Keep it coming, I'll just fire back. I've shared my ideas here, some people like it, some people don't, I can take that.

Date: Feb 27, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

Rubbish!. Stupid comment. You want to help Lao people, who are you?
Who is going to believe you? And BTW, who would need your help?

I don't have to prove anything to you. You made no point at all with your post.

You people moan and ache that theres nothing going on in Laos and when I present my feelings to wanting to do something about it, criticism arises for no apparent reason.

Then again, only the strong rise above this type of stuff. Keep it coming, I'll just fire back. I've shared my ideas here, some people like it, some people don't, I can take that.

They are non native speakers of english language. They have totally different frame work and concept in their mind than somebody who came from America.

That is why you see what they wrote. Most of the time it doesn't make sense at all. And sometime they agree with you and still insult you. I don't to laugh or cried. It is just too funny.

They are probably young people or student learnign english.

SeeHarHed · Guru

just laugh with them... hahahhahhahahhahahha biggrin

you're right!!! it is tough... when you're thoughts are in lao and you want to transfer those thoughts into english.. most of the time.... those thoughts are lost in translation!!!! it just doesn't sound right at all..

most of the time.. i'll just try my best to read it over and over... trying to figure out what he or she is saying.. it is all good!!!

let's get back to the topic of conversation.. biggrin

Date: Feb 27, 2008

when I see those pictures of Laos up there, Kid Hot Barn Kird Koiy Day, Ha Mun Nee.

FOREVER

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

when I see those pictures of Laos up there, Kid Hot Barn Kird Koiy Day, Ha Mun Nee.

FOREVER

hhmmm... i thought you said earlier on the blog.. "It wasn't right this at all when I was there 22 year ago. Yes, it has changed a lot. But who cares, I never will going back there again.

FOREVER"

i guess.. you have a soft spot in your heart for laos after all... that's good to see brother!!

Date: Feb 27, 2008

yes because no matter what my new name is or what colour I dyed my hair inside me I am still Buck Lao. Any way, I don't care about other provinces of Laos, I only want to go back to see Vientaine where I was born.

FOREVER biggrin

SeeHarHed · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

yes because no matter what my new name is or what colour I dyed my hair inside me I am still Buck Lao. Any way, I don't care about other provinces of Laos, I only want to go back to see Vientaine where I was born.

FOREVER

hahahahhahahha well.. go back soon!! your birthland/motherland miss you.. dont stay away from laos too long.

Date: Feb 28, 2008

Patouxai Park then...

...under construction...

...and now...

Date: Feb 28, 2008

..........I'm interested in developing and helping the Lao society advance............
.........I desire to help the people............

Would you please put your thought in somehow, that we can understand how and what you can do ?! maybe we can share of some ideas.

Date: Feb 28, 2008

The powerline gotta go! THe Lao Government or the City of Vientiane needs to implement a way to get rid of those powerlines because 1. its ugly 2. it brings up safety concerns and 3. what would happen if a big storm hits the area and all those line comes down? Yeah, I like and enjoy the fact that the country and the city is prospering in some way shape or form but its still aint enough when we are selling our resources to other countries and ruining our environment. In the long run its not going to help the country. Yeah, we are land-locked but damn Lao Government come up with a way to help out your people!

Date: Feb 28, 2008

Yes they are ugly and eyesore, but what can you do?
Building underground tunnel for all of these cables and wires will cost a lot of money. Unless there is an aid from other nations, Laos alone do not have enough money to do that.
That's just my "2 kips", ok?

Date: Feb 28, 2008

The wires are symptomatic, foreigners can't "help" to put them underground, and why should the Lao always look for a hand out anyway. You want wires underground, first fix the judiciary so the money doesn't go astray to corruption.

For the University Student who wants to return to Laos to avoid US consumerism etc. It's the same in Laos, just poorer. Go back. See what can be done, but DO NOT invest any money. It's true, there are no laws, and no legal system. Interesting how only people who break the law are arrested, what a concept. Keep your US passport and make sure all your paperwork is up to date so you can leave easily if need be.

Date: Feb 29, 2008

Date: Feb 29, 2008

**** man, the more I see the pics of laos the more I , Kid Hod Barn Kird Koiy Day Ha Mun Nee biggrin

FOREVER

Date: Feb 29, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

..........I'm interested in developing and helping the Lao society advance............
.........I desire to help the people............

Would you please put your thought in somehow, that we can understand how and what you can do ?! maybe we can share of some ideas.

I've explained it before in a different topic.

There was talks awhile ago about the Lao stock market opening in 2010. I wanted to create a company with mch intention like that Chinese company that purchased the That Luang marsh.

I want to create a construction company to create infrastructure, hostpitals, schools, roads, bridges, etc. Since I've grown up in America and have not yet completed College, I'd like most of the investors to be Lao-American or Lao abroad, most of the workers to be Lao citizens. Thus Lao money in to Lao hands, no more Chinese workers to build things for Lao people. Lao for Lao, right?

This is just an idea, it isn't perfect, and probably isn't close to being attainable.

AoSeNThA · Senior Member

Right ! Lao for LAO !!

I'm very happy to see that Lao society advance and in developping ! That's very good for future, but I read taht Lao Government promise in 2020, Laos going off in countrys poor, right ?

Date: Feb 29, 2008

AoSeNThA wrote:

Right ! Lao for LAO !!

I'm very happy to see that Lao society advance and in developping ! That's very good for future, but I read taht Lao Government promise in 2020, Laos going off in countrys poor, right ?

They proposed that, they made it a promise. They said they'd get Opium cultivation cut out a few years ago and they did just that.

I wish to contribute to that goal in 2020.

Date: Feb 29, 2008

Anonymous wrote:

I want to create a construction company to create infrastructure, hostpitals, schools, roads, bridges, etc. Since I've grown up in America and have not yet completed College, I'd like most of the investors to be Lao-American or Lao abroad, most of the workers to be Lao citizens. Thus Lao money in to Lao hands, no more Chinese workers to build things for Lao people. Lao for Lao, right?

You know why do they need Chinese workers in Laos? Largely because on the one hand, there are few Lao workers able to take jobs in construction sites. On the other hand, Lao workers are low skill since mostly they are farmers. On top of that they can work as workers only in dry season, but in rainny season they need to work in their farms to plant rice.

However, the company owners need permenant workers to carry out their works all the time so that their projects would be finished on time as the contract required.

Yes, in Laos there is a Lao law stated that companies doing business in Laos have to hire Lao workers at least 70%, if I am not wrong. However, the companies owners could not find Lao workers in terms of both quantity and qualification. Then, Lao authorities have to accept and come to terms that for advance structures the companies can hire foreign workers, including Chinese workers.

In fact, in Laos there are not only Chinese workers, but also from Thailand, Vietnam, India, Bangladesh.

One more thing you need to know is our population is only about 5 million.
At that, about 10% are workers, mostly they are farmers. That is a fact.

Laotians or Foreigners (American, Chinese,...) are human being, no different.

We appreciate equally.

AoSeNThA · Senior Member

Thailand : 63 Millions
Vietnam : 88 Millions

Laos : 6 Millions ... lol

It's right that we need Foreigners Worker (or other), to learn job too :)
Even if Lao for Lao is the best, I know that it's not possible at the moment.

Date: Feb 29, 2008

I've explained it before in a different topic.

There was talks awhile ago about the Lao stock market opening in 2010. I wanted to create a company with mch intention like that Chinese company that purchased the That Luang marsh.

I want to create a construction company to create infrastructure, hostpitals, schools, roads, bridges, etc. Since I've grown up in America and have not yet completed College, I'd like most of the investors to be Lao-American or Lao abroad, most of the workers to be Lao citizens. Thus Lao money in to Lao hands, no more Chinese workers to build things for Lao people. Lao for Lao, right?

This is just an idea, it isn't perfect, and probably isn't close to being attainable.

thank you for the reply, your idea is more than perfect for lao ppl. and Laos.

i thought that you are already got milliard $ to turn your idea to reality.

sorry, soulmate i think we are just doing day dream, at least i do for 30 yrs.

thank you anyway, when you think positive to the old land, it will not damage.

Date: Feb 29, 2008

Anonymous wrote:
thank you for the reply, your idea is more than perfect for lao ppl. and Laos.
i thought that you are already got milliard $ to turn your idea to reality.
sorry, soulmate i think we are just doing day dream, at least i do for 30 yrs.
thank you anyway, when you think positive to the old land, it will not damage.

I visited Laos for the first time a year ago in Jan-Feb with my dad. I saw the infrastructure and I thought it was horrible. I came home and I had a nightmare that I was going to Luang Phrabang (I never went up north before) and I was riding in a truck with a little girl. The bridge was obviously broken but the driver kept going! The little girl turned to me and said "I'm riding this to die today!" and then the truck went off the bridge and into the water! I can't swim either so right away I woke up very scared. After that I gave it a long thought about what I really want to do after college and thats how I came up with this idea.

SeeHarHed · Guru

i'm little confuse now... at first, i thought you're from laos!! biggrin

maybe... i'm just having a long day..

Date: Mar 1, 2008

Anonymous wrote:
Lao for Lao, right?

AoSeNThA wrote:

Right ! Lao for LAO !!

Yes, Lao for Lao is a good idea, but even better if all people for Laos. No matter what nationalities they have, be they American, French, Chinese, Vietnam, Thai or other, if they want to do good for Laos, but not do harm, it would be really fine.

That would only improve our country development and life of Lao people, no doubt.

Date: Mar 1, 2008

.................After that I gave it a long thought about what I really want to do after college and thats how I came up with this idea. ...................................

The hat off for your kindness sir,
you are good college boy and please never get up your idea,
lao people will thank you, even they are not living in Laos.
that will be very very high reward for you. who knows, maybe you can make a living just follow your today's ideas. i will live to be the witness.
god bless you.
from now i can say BIG THANK YOU just for your idea.

Zak · Senior Member

SeeHarHed wrote:

i'm little confuse now... at first, i thought you're from laos!!

maybe... i'm just having a long day..

No I live in America. My parents have been here for a pretty long time and has assimilated well. Maybe not my dad though, he works like crazy and over half his pay check goes back to Laos.

I decided to get a Username.

samakomlao · Guru

Welcome Zak and everyone to samakomlao webboard.
Yes, you are right. It is better to have your own name, so that we can know who is who replying each topic.

I request everyone to sign up and to enjoy the full benefit of this website and webboard.

Regards,

Webmaster

Date: Mar 1, 2008

webmaster, where are you? at laos or oversea.

FOREVER