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Economic growth remains sluggish


Photo: New chinese market in Vientiane


The progress of the Lao economy is slow, despite opportunities and assistance for growth in the region and worldwide, according to Standing Deputy Prime Minister Somsavat Lengsavad.


Mr Somsavat was speaking in Vientiane on Friday at a preparation meeting for a grand meeting to review the implementation of the economic reform.


He said delays caused by some policies and regulations contributed to economic problems.


“One job should be implemented and completed within three days, but instead it takes three months,” he said.


Mr Somsavat said if there was no review of the domestic economy, Laos would not be able to form an effective strategy for economic development.


The meeting was held to discuss how to review the implementation of economic reform, focusing on the period from 1986 to the present.


At the meeting Mr Somsavat advised representatives from Borikhamxay, Khammuan and Vientiane provinces and the capital city how to review and summarise the nine sectors of the economic reform programme in their provinces.


The aim of the review is to identify factors hindering economic development and find solutions.


The revision will include the industries of agriculture, forestry, domestic and foreign investments and trade, technology, finance, enterprise and human resources, economic policies and economic politics.


Similar meetings were held in the northern and southern provinces last week.

The grand meeting to review the implementation of the economy reform will be held at the end of this year.

 


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-- Edited by samakomlao at 04:40, 2008-04-02

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does any one think they have a clue as to why our economy is still slow?

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“One job should be implemented and completed within three days, but instead it takes three months,” he said. that's why???????????


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Everywhere the economic is slow, China for example, for 2008 its economic growth is expected to reduce by 10% according to ABC radio broacasted 2/4/2008.

But having said that, if Laos can speed up its economy, that would be great.

In my opinion, from now on Lao government should concentrate on professionalism rather than just purely politic. As of now, Lao government paid too much on politic, but forgot that improving economy of Laos needs people having a certain knowlege, but not people repeating the party policy like in China 30 years ago. If individuals knew the MAO teaching they would have put as heads. Now in China this was the past already. Only capable people are selected to be the heads, and these people also know party policy very well. 

Bear in mind:
1. Just know party policy can move nowhere. Otherwise, the universities in Laos would not have been established.
 
2. Only capable people can help in this business. Imagine, if Lao government put people knowing nothing about how to build house as site engineers to follow the construction of house, they definitely would be money, although they know the party policy very well. 

3. Lao government system should use the CEO style. The system that Lao goverment currently is outdated, because it is similar to monarchy system, when the head knows nothing about his business, but always acts after listening opinion of his fellows. Sometimes, some fellows also like tell him what he wants to listen. At the end of the day, job is supposed to be done for one day, but cannot finish even for one year.

4. No one should be like a prince who is born to be the head or King.

In such kind of system the capable people like to move out to private industries. Why? They really work hard but the stupid people get benefit. " Mou Hed Na Ma kin Khao".

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Everywhere the economic is slow, China for example, for 2008 its economic growth is expected to reduce by 10% according to ABC radio broacasted 2/4/2008.

But having said that, if Laos can speed up its economy, that would be great.

In my opinion, from now on Lao government should concentrate on professionalism rather than just purely politic. As of now, Lao government paid too much on politic, but forgot that improving economy of Laos needs people having a certain knowlege, but not people repeating the party policy like in China 30 years ago. If individuals knew the MAO teaching they would have put as heads. Now in China this was the past already. Only capable people are selected to be the heads, and these people also know party policy very well. 

Bear in mind:
1. Just know party policy can move nowhere. Otherwise, the universities in Laos would not have been established.
 
2. Only capable people can help in this business. Imagine, if Lao government put people knowing nothing about how to build house as site engineers to follow the construction of house, they definitely would be money, although they know the party policy very well. 

3. Lao government system should use the CEO style. The system that Lao goverment currently is outdated, because it is similar to monarchy system, when the head knows nothing about his business, but always acts after listening opinion of his fellows. Sometimes, some fellows also like tell him what he wants to listen. At the end of the day, job is supposed to be done for one day, but cannot finish even for one year.

4. No one should be like a prince who is born to be the head or King.

In such kind of system the capable people like to move out to private industries. Why? They really work hard but the stupid people get benefit. " Mou Hed Na Ma kin Khao".

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Yes, can I correct you. Monkey not money, probably I guess you want to say.


In short, what Lao government should do or implement is " Good governance and transparent system". 



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Because Laos has small economy, small market and little export, but more corruption.

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Some of you guys should put this good idea in a proposal format......(according to the person name LAOPEOPLEARMY) and send it to Lao embassy where ever you live. If you are Lao citizen I guess you go talk to your representatives.

That said, I am glad you guy put it out here we can share our thought on the situation. According to the person name LAOPEOPLEARMY, this is just a waste of time and not sensible. I don't agree with him.

I like to know what is the unemployment rate in Laos. I heard there are so many places open up in Laos but most of the time it is just empty since people can't afford most stuff being sold there.


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Some of you guys should put this good idea in a proposal format......(according to the person name LAOPEOPLEARMY) and send it to Lao embassy where ever you live. If you are Lao citizen I guess you go talk to your representatives.

That said, I am glad you guy put it out here we can share our thought on the situation. According to the person name LAOPEOPLEARMY, this is just a waste of time and not sensible. I don't agree with him.

I like to know what is the unemployment rate in Laos. I heard there are so many places open up in Laos but most of the time it is just empty since people can't afford most stuff being sold there.



I see where you're going with this. You just want to log-in here and bash the Lao Government or take out your life's frustration on the Lao Government for the sole purpose of entertainment or stress relieving method. I got no problem with that, just be sure to clarify your intention. You can be a Comedian or a Smart Alec (sp?) all you want but please do not expect us to take you seriously.

If you are serious about improving situation in the Lao PDR on the other hand, the most practical method is like what I have proposed earlier.





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Mr Somsavat said delays caused by some policies and regulations contributed to economic problems. He said if it continued like this, Laos would not be able to form an effective strategy for economic development.

I hope we would be able to see the policies and regulations changed.

However, I don't expect much if our authorities do not change their mindset. 
Some of our authorities attended this meeting propbably still keep the old mindset like idealism, but not realism.

Bear in mind, if people have nothing to eat, how much they love our country, they cannot do their jobs for free.
People always say that you (authorities) can speak out because you have everything(cars, fuel...) to serve you. And on top of that, some people also like to give something to you for free.
          

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I see where you're going with this. You just want to log-in here and bash the Lao Government or take out your life's frustration on the Lao Government for the sole purpose of entertainment or stress relieving method. I got no problem with that, just be sure to clarify your intention. You can be a Comedian or a Smart Alec (sp?) all you want but please do not expect us to take you seriously.

If you are serious about improving situation in the Lao PDR on the other hand, the most practical method is like what I have proposed earlier.

 




Laopeoplearmy,

I don't have problem with you but it just seems you take it personal with me when I criticize certain topic posted here. Other people have done the same but you seems to take interest in me. So, I am going to make it personal with you.

So far, on this topic, where did I criticize the government? ......I didn't.
I was agreeing with some of the comments here.

I was merely suggesting....according to your own words....that if we have idea we should send it to the government. We shouldn't waste our time talking about it here.

Go back to all your post direct to me. That is exactly what  you are suggesting. It must be very quiet in your world when no one can talk to you about topic since you probably tell them to complaint it to the government, the newspaper, the media, or the company HR.

 



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Concentrate on Education.

Beef it up. Make education equal (thats how you close the gap between rich and poor, if you have equal education, only sheer personal motivation could bring a poor student to out due a rich student!).

Change isn't going to occur in a day. Beef up the education! Send these kids to learn about how to make the economy blast off in the near future.

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Laopeoplearmy,

I don't have problem with you but it just seems you take it personal with me when I criticize certain topic posted here. Other people have done the same but you seems to take interest in me. So, I am going to make it personal with you.



Lanxang, there is nothing personal with me.  I'm merely responding to your comment as such. If you feel otherwise, my apology for there is no malicious or ill-intention.








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Laopeoplearmy,


Lanxang, there is nothing personal with me. I'm merely responding to your comment as such. If you feel otherwise, my apology for there is no malicious or ill-intention.


I'm cool with it. I guess I deserve it for being so outspoken.

 



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I'm cool with it. I guess I deserve it for being so outspoken.




Lanxang, why do you feel I'm picking on you? Isn't it  what you wanted all along? A good debate?  It takes two opposing side to debate! Well, atleast that's how we do it in the good old Lao PDR. I don't know how you Lao Overseas does it!

I hope I'm not discouraging you from expressing your valid opinion. I would like to remind you that we in the Lao PDR do value your concern and feedback. All we want to know is that are you for real? Hence, I've asked you to put all your proposal in writing and submit it to the nearest Lao Embassy or Consulate General near you. This process help us separated the joker from those that are serious about improving situation in Laos.

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Lanxang, why do you feel I'm picking on you? Isn't it what you wanted all along? A good debate? It takes two opposing side to debate! Well, atleast that's how we do it in the good old Lao PDR. I don't know how you Lao Overseas does it!

I hope I'm not discouraging you from expressing your valid opinion. I would like to remind you that we in the Lao PDR do value your concern and feedback. All we want to know is that are you for real? Hence, I've asked you to put all your proposal in writing and submit it to the nearest Lao Embassy or Consulate General near you. This process help us separated the joker from those that are serious about improving situation in Laos.

Best regards,

Lao People's Army

 




It doesn't discourage me at all. Beside a job as hydro engineer, are you also a government official? How do you know of this process about submitting a proposal? How many and often do you get these kind of proposals?

 



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It doesn't discourage me at all. Beside a job as hydro engineer, are you also a government official? How do you know of this process about submitting a proposal? How many and often do you get these kind of proposals?



I'm a former Propaganda Officer in the LPA. I've received scholarship to  studied in Vietnam, China and Norway. However, I'm quite familiar with various Government protocol as I was called numerous time to assist in Interpreting and translating documents for various Ministry.

Unfortunately I don't have the liberty to discussed that information with you, as I was merely a Soldier and not a Government official.




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Lan_Xang wrote:


It doesn't discourage me at all. Beside a job as hydro engineer, are you also a government official? How do you know of this process about submitting a proposal? How many and often do you get these kind of proposals?



I'm a former Propaganda Officer in the LPA. I've received scholarship to studied in Vietnam, China and Norway. However, I'm quite familiar with various Government protocol as I was called numerous time to assist in Interpreting and translating documents for various Ministry.

Unfortunately I don't have the liberty to discussed that information with you, as I was merely a Soldier and not a Government official.

 




Very nice resume.

I think I am beginning to understand us now. Soldier tend to think a little diffrent than civilians. I was in the Army. I am very proud of my service and my country. Uncle Sam paid for my education. That how I got my EE. I speak English, Laos, and Vietnamese. My Lao is not great but I am fluent in Vietnamese (reading and writing).

 
Do you think the rest of us (not including you) are wasting time chatting about topic in this forum? And do you think we should just follow your so call protocol? ( I want a YES or NO answer)


 

Are there many Vietnamese soldiers in Laos Army?

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Very nice resume.

I think I am beginning to understand us now. Soldier tend to think a little diffrent than civilians. I was in the Army. I am very proud of my service and my country. Uncle Sam paid for my education. That how I got my EE. I speak English, Laos, and Vietnamese. My Lao is not great but I am fluent in Vietnamese (reading and writing).


Interesting background you have there.  Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming that you are Lao of Vietnamese origin.



Lanxang wrote:

Do you think the rest of us (not including you) are wasting time chatting about topic in this forum? And do you think we should just follow your so call protocol? ( I want a YES or NO answer)



I do not think it's fair for me to judge, what other people are doing with their  time. What people do with their time, is none of my business. However, the most practical way to improve situation in Laos is to as I said earlier in my other comments.

Lanxang wrotte:

Are there many Vietnamese soldiers in Laos Army?


The rank and file of the Lao People's Army are a reflection of the Multi-Ethnic & Multi-Cultural Lao People.




Lao People's Army









-- Edited by Lan_Xang at 03:52, 2008-04-06






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Interesting background you have there. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming that you are Lao of Vietnamese origin.


I do not think it's fair for me to judge, what other people are doing with their time. What people do with their time, is none of my business. However, the most practical way to improve situation in Laos is to as I said earlier in my other comments.


The rank and file of the Lao People's Army are a reflection of the Multi-Ethnic & Multi-Cultural Lao People.


 



You don't judge us but you suggest us to do this and not do that. You also imply that what we are doing is a waste of time. You seems to be very educated and intelligent person, what interest you about this forum?
You must know what say here can not do aything to Laos or Laos goverment.

 



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Are there many Vietnamese soldiers in Laos Army?

-- Edited by Lan_Xang at 03:52, 2008-04-06

No! Now, there is no even one head of Vietnamese soldier in Laos.

You may think like US soldiers base in Japan or the Philippine. One answer is "No ! there is nothing like that especially now."

Interestingly, why they never call Japan is colony of USA, I just wonder?

Sorry for interrupting your discussion.





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I think u r a friend of Brainess laopeople army.

Y dont u aske that : why japanese eat sushi and us eat steam rice?

Vietnamese use a visible hand to control lao through our government. Most of top official in the party are vietnamese decendent.

we will not grow like what we want my frs.



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Laopeople army is brainwash and become brainless, because people who work in the government will do any thing to protect their positon and interest. They ignore that our government is stongly influency by vietnamese. Just go to seacrch in google, lao communist party was set up by Vietnamese comunist pary, and there has been no change untill now. The world know it ( educated people). That is why we can not prosper like our neighboring contries.

As evident, we can see alot of super rich people in Vientiene, and most of them are vietnamese decendent.

So what should lao people do?

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Laos ti too cautious, too slow in making decisions and not transparency. Too many layers of bureaucracy and too much corruption. Every business have to go through undertable dealings.  And Laos doesn't have the freest economy.

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Laos is too cautious, too slow and too much corruption. Every business dealings have to go through the undertable bribes and no transparency.

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ATTN: LAOPEOLEARMY, You are very smart guy.

you can take all the heat and calm with you talent speaking, I respected.
Not like someone else thay like to bashing on other and after get feedback then they got mad....hahahahaha.

I was cracking my arse off on that.

You are a winner, LPA!!!!

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the only way to prosper. is to do it your self and with you own money. Other country pour money into Laos, Becouse Laos rich with netural resource. See some of those backpacker they are study for their goverment. they went out to the moutian and forest to explore the land. Look at Africa they resource been drian and poluted some of them look like wast land. the firsting Laos goverment should invest on higher education.

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ATTN: LAOPEOLEARMY, You are very smart guy.

you can take all the heat and calm with you talent speaking, I respected.
Not like someone else thay like to bashing on other and after get feedback then they got mad....hahahahaha.

I was cracking my arse off on that.

You are a winner, LPA!!!!



I can handle Professor LaoPeopleArmy just fine. I don't feel like he is picking on me. He like to response to my comment because none of you guys can take on him.

 



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Por Sil,


I think it is time for you to stop living in the Cold War Era. Many things have changes and many new alliances have formed. Laos is currently a proud member ASEAN and is about to make a history by hosting its first SEA Games.

Throughout our entire existence. The leaders of Laos must learn to cope with the current world situations and regional shifts.  Quite contrary to your John Wayne attitude, Laos is not an island and detached from our current neighboring countries.




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Laopeople army is brainwash and become brainless, because people who work in the government will do any thing to protect their positon and interest. They ignore that our government is stongly influency by vietnamese. Just go to seacrch in google, lao communist party was set up by Vietnamese comunist pary, and there has been no change untill now. The world know it ( educated people). That is why we can not prosper like our neighboring contries.

As evident, we can see alot of super rich people in Vientiene, and most of them are vietnamese decendent.

So what should lao people do?







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It is good to the outside world that we can host sea game, but infact we could not do it , the government asked for helps from china and others to build stadium and etc... And we already know that donation is not free.

What about the income from lao people, taxe, ....etc where are those money? the government is really week.

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i just saw the photo of the "new chinese market" posted here. that looks like a cool place to visit. where is that located? which area? too bad i didn't see it.






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Well Lao people army why dont u reply to my last question? do your job man

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hey, just for your information, the American Base in the Philippines has been kicked out of the Philippines more than 10 or 15 years ago. We already drove them out of our country.




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where are u LPA? dont be shy of your irrational answer, just give a reply to my two previous questions.



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thatluang keep asking for the answer. you must come from sco.lao culture.feel like you hunt for LAP hehehe he will come to you soon. die hard folk.

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Hey guys! Come to live in France (or in the USA in the next few years), and you'll see what really is a country with slow economic growth!!!

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LOL LOL, r u LPA? or LPA's partner? LOL



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LPA?

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laos is laos and will remain laos forever, ever...ever. australia built a friendship bridge for thailand to easy the flow of its exporting goods into vientiane, i didn`t see any price difference of importing goods from thailand before and after the bridge construction and laos was very happy and offered the australian company the concession of gold and copper mining for many years not knowing that the gold mine would give laos the owner of the land very few incomes comparing to those of the investors and more , the mine will leave very dangerous acid and other chemistry composants into water and soil and give people arround bad environment for centuries... what laos gained from this mine ? and many other gold mines in the north ? and when these mines would be exhausted, it would be exhausted forever...poor laos... ever..ever.....

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good morning paris-vientiane, i`m sorry to inform you that my rattan and fruit trees and two ha of rice are under water... i lost four millions this year ! and how `s about yours ?

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Thatluang wrote:

It is good to the outside world that we can host sea game, but infact we could not do it , the government asked for helps from china and others to build stadium and etc... And we already know that donation is not free.

What about the income from lao people, taxe, ....etc where are those money? the government is really week.




I'm sorry I don't quite understand your broken English.  You don't need to impress me with your English. I can understand Lao just fine!

Regards,

LPA



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good morning paris-vientiane, i`m sorry to inform you that my rattan and fruit trees and two ha of rice are under water... i lost four millions this year ! and how `s about yours ?




 hi Chiip!

Only a very little part of my land near Vientiane was under water.

I don't live in Laos, so i cannot take care the land, but i know my wife's mother planted a few fruits (banana...), but the goats living free in the village eat and destroyed a part.

 

I'll be back to Laos next february for 3 weeks.



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Thanks for your reply even it is Brainless as usual.

You better impressed me and others by giving good reasons to those questions.



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See? our top official go to get brainwash from their master again. ( LPA will be one of them)

Training course for Lao Party officials opens

A training course on political theory for officials of the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party opened at the Ho Chi Minh National Politics and Administration Academy in Hanoi on August 18.

Hanoi (VNA) – Speaking at the opening ceremony, deputy director of the national academy, Dr Vu Dinh Hoe, said that the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Lao People’s Revolutionary Party consider personnel training a key factor in the past struggles for national independence as well as in the current process of both countries’ industrialisation and modernisation.

During the five-month course, which is held within the cooperation agreement between two countries, 20 Lao Party officials will study the key contents of Maxism-Leninism and Ho Chi Minh’s Thoughts on national independence and socialism.

They will also be updated on current major trends in the world and the Communist Party of Vietnam’s experiences in national renewal cause.
http://www.mofa.gov.vn/en/nr040807104143/nr040807105039/ns080819083942


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Hi P-V, faites moi signe, when you arrive in Laos I`d like to see you personally.

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