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BruceLaoMan


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I don’t know how valid the news is, but it’s quite interesting to learn what’s going on in Laos. I thought Laos has no more conflict. It really surprises me to learn that there are still anti-government forces fighting over there. This is not good for the country overall development if we still have civil war.  There has to be compromise and reconciliation if we expect Laos to progress.  doh


http://media-newswire.com/release_1073302.html
Laos, Thailand Crisis: 31 Hmong Arrested Following Renewed LPDR Military Attacks
Following recent attacks last week in the Phou Bia Mountain area of Laos, the Lao Peoples Democratic Republic (LPDR) has arrested a group of 31 Hmong civilians and religious and political dissidents, including women and children.

(Media-Newswire.com) - Washington, D.C.,  September 17, 2008 - The Lao Human Rights Council, Inc. the Center for Public Policy Analysis ( CPPA ), non- governmental organizations and policymakers in Washington, D.C. are receiving increased reports of fresh new military and security force attacks against Laotian and Hmong civilians and political and religious dissident groups in Laos.  Following recent attacks last week, the Lao Peoples Democratic Republic ( LPDR ) has arrested a group of 31 Hmong civilians and religious and political dissidents, including women and children. The arrests following a renewed effort by the LPDR regime  to starve, attack and kill Hmong living independently from the one-party authoritarian regime in the Phou Bia mountain area and elsewhere in Laos.

“The Lao military continues to launch heavy military and security force attacks at Hmong in the Phou Bia mountain area of Laos; and their military and security forces have recently arrested  seven ( 7 ) Hmong families totaling 31 innocent Hmong people,” stated Vaughn Vang, Executive Director of the Hmong Lao Human Rights Council, Inc. ( HLHRC ).

Author and Southeast Asian scholar Dr. Jane Hamilton-Merritt, who testified in the U.S. Congress earlier this year about the current Laotian and Hmong refugee crisis, documents the plight of the Hmong people in her award winning book Tragic Mountains: The Hmong, the Americans and the Secret Wars for Laos. ( Indiana University Press ).  The 15th anniversary of the publication of Tragic Mountains is being marked this year.  http://www.tragicmountains.org

“On September 9, 2008,  Mr. Thong Xue’s group of Hmong civilians and dissident religious and political members were brutally arrested,“ stated Philip Smith, Executive Director of the Center for Public Policy Analysis in Washington, D.C. “Most of the group of the 31 Lao-Hmong arrested by the Lao military and security forces last week at Phou Bia mountain area were women, children and the elderly.”

“Seven Lao-Hmong civilian families totaling 31 Hmong in hiding in the area of Haav Qhuav ( Dry River ) Phou Bia, Laos had managed to somehow survive for many years and courageously defended their families, holding out until just this month from continued and repeated heavy LPDR military and security force attacks and a campaign of calculated, mass starvation, but the poor Hmong families finally surrendered at gunpoint to the government soldiers,” continued Smith.

Smith stated further: “We believe that these Lao Hmong families, which includes 31 individuals, will likely face rape, torture, execution or death at the hands of the LPDR military and security forces that have done the very same thing in recent weeks and months to so many Laotian and Hmong people, including the massacre and mutilation of women and children; This group of 31 Hmong people represents the tragic tip of the iceberg in terms of the shear numbers, scale and scope of this Darfur and Bosnia-like crisis where so many innocent Laotian and Hmong people are being arrested, abducted and killed by the LPDR regime.”

“The Lao military and security forces have arrested Mr. Thong Xiong’s group which includes seven ( 7 ) families totaling 31 Hmong in hiding in the area of Haav Qhuav ( Dry River ) Phou Bia, Laos, continued Vaughn Vang of the HLHRC. “The head of these families are: Mrs. Vang Kou; Mrs. Lor Yeng; Mrs. Tong Khue; Mrs. Chong Ser; Mrs. Yang Lue; Mrs. Tong Xeng and Mrs. Nhia  Xyum Moua.”

Vaughn Vang stated further:  “Currently the LPDR soldiers are holding these innocent Hmong men, women and children in Haav Qhuav ( Dry River ) until the soldiers have arrested the rest of the innocent Hmong in hiding which at that time the soldier will likely kill these innocent women and children quickly in Haav Qhuav ( Dry River ) in the mountains of Phou Bia, Laos in the next few days or weeks.”

Vaughn Vang concluded: “These innocent Hmong men, women and children appeal to the United Nations, the United States and the world community to urge the LPDR government to spare the lives of these 31 Hmong people.  The LPDR should  immediately and unconditionally release these 31 Hmong people that it has unfairly arrested and  prove to the international community that the Lao government will abide by international law and the spirit and letter of H.Res. 1273 and H.Res. 402, as introduced in the U.S. Congress, and cease its human rights violations and attacks against the freedom-loving Laotian and Hmong people.”

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-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 04:27, 2008-09-18

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The confliction between Lao PDR and Lao Hmong in the Northern laos has been starting more than 50 years. VangPao and his people helped the CIA fought with PathetLao and viet durring the vietnam war.

American should act something to help those innocent  Hmong people before they are punished by Lao Pdr.


Ps, Hmong people is time to out of the jungle now!!

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the lao government and its military are not sadic or cannibal or something like that .they would not act without reason, if they arrested some people cited above, why you don`t ask youself : why other people aren`t arrested, the niumber of hmong people in the area must be more then 31 and if you want to live freely and planting puppy as you like,then , you are an outlaw person that is of course not strange that an outlaw is arrested...l
have fine day, bruce lao man !

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Talking about that dude Vang Pao, I heard he was apprehended along with his colleagues by the CIA last year. Isn’t he out on bail? He was planning to terrorize Laotian government with weapons that he illegally purchased on black market. I am totally against any sort of war in Laos especially at this critical time. Otherwise, Laos will be pushed back to the bad-old days again. If the fight had actually taken place 50 years ago, then it’s time to stop fighting.  Aren’t People tired of it? They need to adjust their lives according to a modern day and they need to create a modern society base on peace, unity and social coherence. War will only bring greater poverty, famine and disadvantages in every field. I hope Lao government has a policy of forgiveness and grant immunity to all the Hmong who are still hiding in the jungle somewhere. They too need to start a new life for the sake of their posterity.
 


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That's a problem of Hmong these days.  They don't want to be a part of Lao citizen.  Hmong in America especially in CA, they don't say they are from Laos.  They say they are Chinese.  They are treated special by US Gov.  better than Lao immigrants. Vang Pao and his gangs are in home arrest.  They can do nothing now.  Vang Pao is very ill now.  They want some country to rule.  They are jealous of Lao people who have a country.  Can you imagine if Vang Pao and his gangs did war to overthrow Laos country successfully.  How many innocent Lao people would die,  how many historic buildings would be destroyed, "Laos" country would change name to "XXXXX" etc..... So my Lao fellows,  wake up.  

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ເບິ່ງຂ່າວ ໃຫ້ເດັກນ້ອຍອ່ານມັນກະຍັງຫົວຂວັນ ຊົນຊາດລາວສູງຢູ່ລາວກະຍັງມີຫລາຍເຜົ່າ ບໍ່ເຫັນວ່າ ເຂົາຊິມີບັນຫາ ແລະ ຊົນຊາດອື່ນໆກະບໍ່ມີບັນຫາ ເປັນຫຍັງບໍ່ຕັ້ງຄຳຖາມວ່າເປັນຫັຍງສະເພາະຊົນມົ້ງທີ່ອອກຂ່າວເຂົາເຮັດຫຍັງແນ່ ເມືອງລາວເກືອບວ່າ 100% ແມ່ນຖືວ່າສະຫງົບສຸກ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີກຸ່ມ ມ....ົ້.......ງ ບໍ່ດີເຫລົ່ານີ້ ກຸ່ມມົ້ງອື່ນເຂົາເຈົ້າທຳມາຫາແບບພົນລະເມືອງລາວທົ່ວໄປບໍ່ເຫັນຊິມີບັນຫາຫຍັງ
ຄ້ານເວົ້າເລື່ອງນີ້

 



 I think ,those Hmongs in the jungle, they are waiting for the international org, Human right  or the US gov to help them out of the jungle, they also want to become as refugee that can move to Usa.

17laos.xlarge1.jpg

i am not sure that are they the Hmong group that we are talking about?

 



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Refere to the allegation news posted by ບັກ ບຸຮີ ອາເມລິກາດ, he is the bad Lao American man and  is totally unacepteble by Lao people who live inside the country, I categorically reject those alligation which completely fale and groundless.


ກອງທັບປະຊາຊົນລາວ



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Refere to the allegation news posted by ບັກ ບຸຮີ ອາເມລິກາດ, he is the bad Lao American man and  is totally unacepteble by Lao people who live inside the country, I categorically reject those alligation which completely fale and groundless.


ກອງທັບປະຊາຊົນລາວ


Hey, since when have I ever asked you to accept me? You are so funny. Did you not remember I told you to go eat sh1t and die last time? You are nothing but an indigent peasant whose dinner is a dog sh1t. LOLbiggrinbiggrin



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BruceLaoMan wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

Refere to the allegation news posted by ບັກ ບຸຮີ ອາເມລິກາດ, he is the bad Lao American man and  is totally unacepteble by Lao people who live inside the country, I categorically reject those alligation which completely fale and groundless.


ກອງທັບປະຊາຊົນລາວ


Hey, since when have I ever asked you to accept me? You are so funny. Did you not remember I told you to go eat sh1t and die last time? You are nothing but an indigent peasant whose dinner is a dog sh1t. LOLbiggrinbiggrin

 


hahahahhahahah you guys are funny!!!  hey Bruce, if you need anymore translating let me know ok..

 



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Mr big wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

ເບິ່ງຂ່າວ ໃຫ້ເດັກນ້ອຍອ່ານມັນກະຍັງຫົວຂວັນ ຊົນຊາດລາວສູງຢູ່ລາວກະຍັງມີຫລາຍເຜົ່າ ບໍ່ເຫັນວ່າ ເຂົາຊິມີບັນຫາ ແລະ ຊົນຊາດອື່ນໆກະບໍ່ມີບັນຫາ ເປັນຫຍັງບໍ່ຕັ້ງຄຳຖາມວ່າເປັນຫັຍງສະເພາະຊົນມົ້ງທີ່ອອກຂ່າວເຂົາເຮັດຫຍັງແນ່ ເມືອງລາວເກືອບວ່າ 100% ແມ່ນຖືວ່າສະຫງົບສຸກ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີກຸ່ມ ມ....ົ້.......ງ ບໍ່ດີເຫລົ່ານີ້ ກຸ່ມມົ້ງອື່ນເຂົາເຈົ້າທຳມາຫາແບບພົນລະເມືອງລາວທົ່ວໄປບໍ່ເຫັນຊິມີບັນຫາຫຍັງ
ຄ້ານເວົ້າເລື່ອງນີ້

 



 I think ,those Hmongs in the jungle, they are waiting for the international org, Human right  or the US gov to help them out of the jungle, they also want to become as refugee that can move to Usa.

17laos.xlarge1.jpg

i am not sure that are they the Hmong group that we are talking about?

 

 


dhanggg how can these ppl have so many dang kids if they soo poor and running all the time. doesnt make sense. fighting for their lives yett their kids otu number teh adults 20 to 1. i am not an evil person but, lao needs to become united ppl like these will only bring chaos to our country. im glad teh hmong lost along wit the us or else laos would be a very different place today.



 



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SeeHarHed wrote:

hahahahhahahah you guys are funny!!!  hey Bruce, if you need anymore translating let me know ok..

Thank you brother; you know I am a kind person and I wouldn't mind to send him a mosquito net, so he can have a goodnight sleep in his little hut. I do feel sorry for him though. Can you imagine during his lovemaking nights without a net, having those bloodthirsty mosquitoes bite his skinny balls? LOL, his reaction to the pain might mislead his skinny wife to believing that she’s making the right move receptively.biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

It's quite funny in a way though. Don't yo think?
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I am tollally object to the close friendship and cooperation bween the Seehahed and the rejected Bruce Lao-American in this forum.

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I am tollally object to the close friendship and cooperation bween the Seehahed and the rejected Bruce Lao-American in this forum.


Hey, we are not cooperating in any shape or form here. He just wants to help me out as a true brother would do. Don't be so mad.boo.gif


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That's a problem of Hmong these days.  They don't want to be a part of Lao citizen.  Hmong in America especially in CA, they don't say they are from Laos.  They say they are Chinese.  They are treated special by US Gov.  better than Lao immigrants. Vang Pao and his gangs are in home arrest.  They can do nothing now.  Vang Pao is very ill now.  They want some country to rule.  They are jealous of Lao people who have a country.  Can you imagine if Vang Pao and his gangs did war to overthrow Laos country successfully.  How many innocent Lao people would die,  how many historic buildings would be destroyed, "Laos" country would change name to "XXXXX" etc..... So my Lao fellows,  wake up.  


Why did they say they are Chinese anyway? I think that’s too funny. If Vang Pao only got house arrest then that’s pretty messed up based on the crime that he had intended to commit.  It is considered a federal offense. I think it is due to his past assistance to Americans during the war that helped him got off the hook easily. Otherwise, he would spend the rest of his life in Federal Prison. Do you know how long he is to be under house arrest? The Hmongs in the jungle should just surrender themselves to Lao government and start a new life.



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We have two "katheuy" in Samakomlao now "SeeHaHed" and "BukBruce" (I give him,or her a new name).

They're in the process of filling out necessary papers for marriage license.

Congratulation !

 

 



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Among the Lao Overseas here, they are some traitors who want to help the turned coat Lao in this forum by translating Lao into English text for him. Ha Meung.

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When the Webmaster sees this topic, I hope that he deletes it.

In the past, there were too much said, and discussed already.



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We have two "katheuy" in Samakomlao now "SeeHaHed" and "BukBruce" (I give him,or her a new name).

They're in the process of filling out necessary papers for marriage license.

Congratulation ! 

They're in the process of filling out necessary papers for marriage license? You are crazy lol. You don’t know that I am a handsome man and so is SeeHarHed; except that I am just little bit prettier than him ok. Get your fact straight. Please!

 




-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 01:34, 2008-09-19

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When the Webmaster sees this topic, I hope that he deletes it.

In the past, there were too much said, and discussed already.






i think it's fine ,as long as u guys talk smarter!!!

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chiip wrote:

the lao government and its military are not sadic or cannibal or something like that .they would not act without reason, if they arrested some people cited above, why you don`t ask youself : why other people aren`t arrested, the niumber of hmong people in the area must be more then 31 and if you want to live freely and planting puppy as you like,then , you are an outlaw person that is of course not strange that an outlaw is arrested...

Well said Mr. Chiip. I do agree with you. Things happened for some reasons.

BTW, long time no see your comment.


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chiip wrote:
the lao government and its military are not sadic or cannibal or something like that .they would not act without reason, if they arrested some people cited above, why you don`t ask youself : why other people aren`t arrested, the niumber of hmong people in the area must be more then 31 and if you want to live freely and planting puppy as you like,then , you are an outlaw person that is of course not strange that an outlaw is arrested...l
have fine day, bruce lao man !

Just because I am the one who posted the news that doesn’t mean I believe everything; I look at it from its face value and I normally take it as a grain of salt. It’s quite obvious that Lao government has been interacted with international community and by gaining so much support from ASEAN has manifested its moderate policy towards its people. The term sadistic or cannibal would be certainly not applicable to Lao government or Lao military; at least, not in my own sense. I do notice sensitivity from some members here when someone mildly or strongly criticize the Laotian government without having any contrast between criticism and condemnation. I am still new to the site and lack knowledge of prior history if there had been any resentment among people in here who are pro-Lao communist regimes and who are anti-communist regimes, but I am neither one. I just simply don’t care who is now in power in Laos as long as they can lift the people out of poverty, allow basic freedom, bring peace and harmony, and create social-cohesive society then I am all for it. I don’t have any hatred towards either side.
When I post the news, is for the purpose of discussion and share knowledge. That is what the forum means to me. Realistically, there is no government in the world that is free from some sort of resentful denigration. Even the Lord Buddha, or Christ, according to religious history, had gone through the same trial and tribulation.

 





-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 16:28, 2008-09-19

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"...........bad-old days again........."

Brucelman, thank you for. now you said today is better than ..".bad-old days again.".  you are progressing.

Talking about that dude Vang Pao, I heard he was apprehended along with his colleagues by the CIA last year. Isn’t he out on bail? He was planning to terrorize Laotian government with weapons that he illegally purchased on black market. I am totally against any sort of war in Laos especially at this critical time. Otherwise, Laos will be pushed back to the bad-old days again. If the fight had actually taken place 50 years ago, then it’s time to stop fighting.  Aren’t People tired of it? They need to adjust their lives according to a modern day and they need to create a modern society base on peace, unity and social coherence. War will only bring greater poverty, famine and disadvantages in every field. I hope Lao government has a policy of forgiveness and grant immunity to all the Hmong who are still hiding in the jungle somewhere. They too need to start a new life for the sake of their posterity.

that is the same what i try to tell ppl, that laos is changing, it's not the same as we know 30yrs back.
BTW why do you think, in the jungle are still hiding Hmong ppl ?
i think, bcoz of some groupe make a good living by saying this again and again.

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"..........The Hmongs in the jungle should just surrender themselves to Lao government and start a new life. .........."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP,
Hmong don't have to surrender, bcoz it's no war.
what they have to do is take down their rifle and just walk down from the mountain and go for help of their new life. the lao gov. will help them to start up to 3 yrs. BUT you can not do whatever you want to do. you have to obey the law of the land.  think about this if you are in the USA and run around with the rifle, fire the inocent ppl, what do you think the US government will do?  so that the lao gov.does. period.

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to9 i like you Brucelman.
sorry cannot love you, sehahed will take me down if i do  555555555555555

my2cent

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Brucelman, thank you for. now you said today is better than ..".bad-old days again.".  you are progressing.


Talking about that dude Vang Pao, I heard he was apprehended along with his colleagues by the CIA last year. Isn’t he out on bail? 

You are welcome, but I think the word “his colleague” does not sound right though. Especially, in his case and it would be more appropriate for me to say “His Accomplice” instead.






-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 05:17, 2008-09-19

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to9 i like you Brucelman.
sorry cannot love you, sehahed will take me down if i do  555555555555555

my2cent

 

You can like me any night, but just don’t come anywhere near me because I am not gay. But the way you said you like me “to9” is kinda creepy though.


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it was your word, i just copied it.

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to9 i like you Brucelman.
sorry cannot love you, sehahed will take me down if i do  555555555555555

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You can like me any night, but just don’t come anywhere near me because I am not gay. But the way you said you like me “to9” is kinda creepy though.giggle.gif


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Bruce



I like you. But I don't love you. I'm scare of  your wife she  will kill me.

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Bruce

I like you. But I don't love you. I'm scare of  your wife she  will kill me.

I am not aware that I have a wife, but I would take what you said as a blessing though. I have been waiting for a girl to come knock on my door. Just so you know when I said my door, I meant the door to my lonely heart. I am hoping that night would come soon otherwise, I might go insane eventually.

 



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