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China will be a democracy by 2020, says senior party figure

China will transform itself into a working democracy in just over a decade, according to one of the country's most influential reformers. 

China will transform itself into a working democracy in just over a decade, according to one of the country's most influential reformers.By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai Last Updated: 2:35AM BST 15 Oct 

Zhou Tianyong, an adviser to the Communist Party's Central Committee and one of its most liberal voices, told the Daily Telegraph that "by 2020, China will basically finish its political and institutional reforms". 

He added: "We have a 12-year plan to establish a democratic platform. There will be public democratic involvement at all government levels."
Mr Zhou also predicted "extensive public participation in policy-making, such as drawing up new legislation". 

Mr Zhou is deputy head of research at the Central Party School, the most important institution for training senior leaders. President Hu Jintao is among its former directors. 
After two weeks of heightened tension between China and Taiwan because of a £3.5 billion American arms sale to the island, Mr Zhou said the transition to democracy was "essential for relations with Taiwan and a possible peaceful reunification". 

His comments appear to rebuff the widespread belief that Chinese political reform had stalled after the riots in Tibet in March and a security clampdown before the Olympic Games in Beijing. 

Instead, Mr Zhou said the government was determined to reform itself, but that there had been some infighting between different departments. He called for the number of ministries in Beijing to be halved to between 19 and 21 in order to form a "modern government structure". 

Mr Zhou added that civil society in China would also play an important role. "There will be many more non-governmental organisations, chambers of commerce, industry associations and other social groups. Religion should also be given a wider platform to play a positive role. We should protect religious freedom," he said. 

"People should not follow the traditional mindset," he added. "We should recognise that the government should serve the people and society."
But Mr Zhou did not predict the end of the one-party state, nor the demise of the Communist Party's monopoly of power. 

Any transition to democracy is likely to be a slow process. China already has grassroots elections in over 660,000 villages, although these contests are often rigged. However, there are already small signs of change, with larger cities, such as Nanjing and Guangzhou, recently opening more important posts to public competition.






-- Edited by BruceLaoMan at 21:01, 2008-10-16

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I don't believe it one bit.

I really don't.

Please could you give us a link?

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Zak wrote:

I don't believe it one bit.

I really don't.

Please could you give us a link?



http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=China+will+be+a+democracy+by+2020,+says+senior+party+figure&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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LAOS ARE  ALREADY FREE COUNTRY .YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM NORTH TO SOUTH WITH OUT PERMITION . LAOS ALSO OPEN FREE MARKET . EVERYBODY HAD THE RIGHT TO OWNER HER OR HIS BUSINESS

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Look ee ha meaung he is already gone, look ee nah mah

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 Well, if China will be a democracy by 2020, I think, Laos can follow suit, but not so soon, at fast by 2050.
 
My prediction is by the way based on our country development. It goes without saying that a democracy is a sort of something happened in the developed countries, but not underdeveloped country like Laos. If compared with USA in terms of development, Laos is currently not much different to the USA economy in late 18 or early 19 century. Then, there was not a democracy in US as well as we all know.

Thing will not happen for no reason, no doubt. One should understand the reality and accept that things cannot be happened by just people's will, but can be happened in suitable or certain conditions. 

Most of Lao people are the low educated poor farmers; some cannot read and write even Lao language, to say nothing of foreign Languages. A clear example we can see in our neighboring country how their people practice a democracy, where the chaos will never be ending.

Who would need such a democracy?


 

-- Edited by TSP at 01:40, 2008-10-19

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i love you TSP, ajj your comment is very understand the si tuation in our country. i love to read all your comment and i approve it.

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laos goverment is flaxible it does`t matter if democracy or not they care only money

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Without requiring a legitimate registration, this forum lacks rule and regulation so anyone can cuss can use vulgar language.



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TSP wrote:

          
 Well, if China will be a democracy by 2020, I think, Laos can follow suit, but not so soon, at fast by 2050.
 
My prediction is by the way based on our country development. It goes without saying that a democracy is a sort of something happened in the developed countries, but not underdeveloped country like Laos. If compared with USA in terms of development, Laos is currently not much different to the USA economy in late 18 or early 19 century. Then, there was not a democracy in US as well as we all know.

Thing will not happen for no reason, no doubt. One should understand the reality and accept that things cannot be happened by just people's will, but can be happened in suitable or certain conditions. 

Most of Lao people are the low educated poor farmers; some cannot read and write even Lao language, to say nothing of foreign Languages. A clear example we can see in our neighboring country how their people practice a democracy, where the chaos will never be ending.

Who would need such a democracy?


 

-- Edited by TSP at 01:40, 2008-10-19


To have a healthy democracy, from my U.S. Politics book, it states that a country should have:

Good education: You need people smart enough to read and write, and care about the problems of society to take part in discussions about them right? You need the people to take part in things, to care, to voice their opinion. I quote "The poorly educated and illiterate often get left out in a democracy".

Edconomic conditions: Must be good. Must have wealth. Why? The poor would care more about getting food than the next president. But to refute that, if the president reached for the poor's cocern, then a democracy would matter to them.

Social conditions: Generally democracies thrive on overlap of social groups. Laos is split badly. Poor and rich, farmers and capitalists, etc. etc.

Its best to have the current government continue its progress to reach a point where they can successfully convert to a form of government that best fits the needs of the people and country. Whether its Communism or Democracy.

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LaoPDR will be a democracy by 3030.....peace out to all ...

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what so good about demcracy?  the philliphies is a democracy and its still a **** hole

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I wonder what BRuceLao would think about Lao's democracy?

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Lao will not ready for democracy . Lao need strong central government . look at Thailand now . and another thing Lao people have too much pride and very self centre very hard to compromise . look at Lao people in USA even they live in democratic system they still not understand value of democracy .in USA Lao people will unite among ethnic  origin and regional only . very hard to see Lao people united as a whole . example if u read comment here  a lot of Lao people just try to win argument instead try to understand the issue.

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Lao will not ready for democracy . Lao need strong central government . look at Thailand now . and another thing Lao people have too much pride and very self centre very hard to compromise . look at Lao people in USA even they live in democratic system they still not understand value of democracy .in USA Lao people will unite among ethnic  origin and regional only . very hard to see Lao people united as a whole . example if u read comment here  a lot of Lao people just try to win argument instead try to understand the issue.


Well, what do you believe is the value of democracy?

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i love you TSP, ajj your comment is very understand the si tuation in our country. i love to read all your comment and i approve it.


Um... I am glad to hear that. Lao people always love each other like we do regardless of what kind of democracy, either socialism or capitalism style. So long as our life is improved, it would be fine for us, I suppose. 

While talking about democracy, my Singaporean friends like to ask me: " Do you want to talk or do you want to have some food to eat?"

I do agree with somone who made a comment earlier, saying that Laos now needs a strong government as to keep a good environment or stability whereby encouraging foreign investors to come and do business in Laos. That would be the only way that Laos can move forward. 

Needless to say much though, before 1975 there was a war and as a result, I hate to say but it was true, there was no any factory in Laos. Lao people were very poor.

So, what Laos needs now is a good governance, transparent system with no corruption and a good education so as to faster push our country economy to be better gradually.
 
Subsequently, no doubt our people life would definitely be improved day by day. 

 



-- Edited by TSP at 01:31, 2008-10-21

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