every country has the rights to chose the political system accordingly their history. In the past laos had fallen in to the hand of Thailand, France and America, the country had no peace, ununited Country and instability the country had brokendown into 3 or 4 part and there were so many political faction,including the vang pao faction ( Hmong faction ) belonged to Royal side. The pathetlao Group as the Communist party had made agreat to save the country by leberating and forming one political system in order to unite all Lao ethnic groups ( 49 Groups ),
I thought Communist system is good for Laos at present time. regarding the Vangpao I would like to comment as follows : - He is Drug dealer, Killer, terrorist, separatist , war crime and poligamy man - Lao people including Lao Hmong in Laos do not need him any more - now Lao people are united forever
I read many comments here, I found out there are same group of people saying the same thing all the time, according to their name, and praised each other as well, they always say bad thing about Lao and Lao's government, they said that not many people worship communists...etc But we can ask why if there is any who believe in communism then why Lao is a communist state, these people only say thing just one side unlike I watch document from USA, England (BBC) and European countries as well, they are available in DVD shop...these documents always shows the story on both side, the communists side and the american side. If USA wanted to stop communism one and for all, I believe they should go for war with Soviet Union and China in the past, that's where they could take the root of communism forever.....one person here stated that USA can take anyone country, can own anyone country, can defeat anyone they like, and nobody can defeat USA then why USA did not do that in the past, why fought in small country like Lao. If Soviet Union and China destroyed by USA there is no big communists for small country to follow anymore. Perhaps those big communists countries have nuclear bombs.
USA regreted when they bombed Japane because so many innocent people died. This is one of the reason that make them stop. U.S.A. tried to save the world life. killing is too easy for usa. Saving life is hard job for them. To kill one person is too much for them to do it. Democracy means save everybody's life and enjoy freedom while you can.
With all due respect to him, his supporters, and to those with strong animosity against him, but I am still convinced that the man was once highly appreciated by millions of Laotians during his relentless struggle against communism especially his valiant combat against Vietnam and it was endorsed by the former government.Not all Laotians worshiped Communist Viet Gook (Keo) at the time besides Lao Isara (?) and its unwillingness to oppose the invasion of Laos by Vietnam only proved its incompetent army.It would be just a foolish pride to deny that.No doubt most of its equipments were also in a deplorable state and without the Viets, there wouldn’t be Lao PDR today. Of course, we should not expect the newer generation of Laotians to relatively think as the older ones. But we just can’t change our history. Only 3 million Laotians with its national strength of 55,000 combat soldiers (?) it was impossible to repel the repetitive illegal incursions by those Viet Gooks whose numbers were in millions and U.S was the only hope to slow down their advances by means of air power. When there’s a war, there would be collateral sacrifices from both sides. It was unfortunate that so many lives were lost. And regrettably, after 30 years of failed attempts by the winning side, this great Kingdom of Lan Xang once again succumbed to the invading force. Was it Karma? It’s up to you Laotians to make that judgment.
The good thing though, there was no comparison of oppression to Vietnam when Laos initially converted to communism. Viets on the other hand, ferociously suppressed its people, random torture, imprisonment due to false allegations of anti-revolution or anti-state policy occurred almost daily and thousands of its people were compelled to flee their beloved country, many were just crying in despair. But this was Southeast Asia.In a not too distant proximity, Afghanistan—1979, was invaded by the Red Soviet Army. To the turban-wearing Islamic Afghans whose religious fanaticism has never been questionable, the occupation by atheist commie was more than just defilement to their opium land and their culture. Backed by CIA, they successfully evicted the Soviets after 10 years of brutal engagement. It was the total opposite in value between atheist communists and the fundamentalist extremist Muslim.
Vang Pao, even though, was a general but it was already history, and according to his current status, he is just an ordinary citizen of the United States. He should let go of the past. The supposed-premeditated plan to bomb Laotian Presidential Palace would be interpreted as an intended act of terrorism under American Law during a peace time and especially by a private citizen. This is his own desire for seeking personal vengeance; therefore, he will be prosecuted. If there is a mercy from the court of law, he might get years of house arrest given the fact that he had established himself within his own community over a period of time and for thousands of letters of recommendation, I wouldn’t be surprised for any prospect of leniency. But the law usually only allows a maximum of one year sentence to qualify for (Electronic Monitoring Ankle Bracelet) and in the case of Vang Pao, the judge may give him years in state or federal prison. Therefore, the chance of serving time in the house is pretty unlikely.
Lao PDR has been widely accepted by many countries included the United States ever since it liberated itself from the oppressive communist regime to a more liberal nation. Why not give it a chance to mature and no need to destroy the peace.After all, they are also Laotian.
BruceLaoMan
I really disagre with you to respect the opium and heroin dealer . I understood that north Vietnamese invaded Laos by the million because General Vang Pao did not stay neutral. Laos was neutral country untill then. I did not see a good dim thing that general Vang Pao did for Laos and Lao people. The whole world knew that Laos was the most bombed country in the world. Today Laos still face the unexplosion bombs and a lot of people specially children still are injuried and killed by those bombs. You problely was not born yet, so don't common on something that you are not experiencing yourself. A lot of people lost their lives , families , home ,land...etc... and became the refuguees and some people fled without nothing and that was not all, the damm Thai people robbed them . Some of them were murdered and some women were sent to be prostitutes. I knew some were lucky and get advance of the situation without trouble to go to the United States and abraod . Over million Lao people were refuguees all over the world. So today there are million of Vietnamese in Loas some legally and some illigally and a lot of chinese as well. I hope and wish that the Lao goverment could still fix these problems by play smart roll to the world. Otherwise soon Laos will be taken over by China, Vietnam or Thailand.
My very poor friend, I know what is in your mind. I know and understand my Lao people very good. They don't understand what is a national: through the history of Laos there are always lao who betray lao. Each of us always try to show that he is the smartdest. But remember Laos use to be bigger than Vietnam, Thailand and Mayama(Burma). And Look at us today Laos is one of the poorest country in the world. Laos always live in the bagging system. There are many stories in all the temples in America. There no organization which have more three people of Lao in America. I don't like the way Vang Pao do business but at leat he do something. He did and still be able to bring thousand people together. Look at Ours elderly leaders they all die one by one without doing anything. Even many of ours elderly leaders' children can't even bare theirs parents colors( Flag of three head elephant). I do want to say much but one question: Were are we now?
Who ever accuse of Vang Pao done and doing business on opium that person must hate hmong very much. Vang Pao never and didn't ever have time to do those junks. Yes the biggest opium dealers in Laos was General Oune Lathikoune, once chief of stuffs of Laos. He control all opium from Golden Triangle to South Vietnam, part of Thailand and Cambodia. Many DaKota and C130 pilots who have participated in those operation still live in United States and France. With the money that Vang Pao got from the CIA, he had no need to bother with those junks. I do know some of his friends or relatives have use Vang Pao's name to do such junk But Vang Pao NO. I am one of those pilots who have tranported General Oune's opium and I knew no one can't do anything without the order of General Oune. I did make good money at those day as a pilot. So you can't acuse Vang Pao if you don't know ****. If you hate Hmong just say so
Vang Pao was and still a General. He knew and know that he can't never retake Laos. He knew that the United States have never and will never help him to take or retake Laos. But in his mind he must continued his lagacy. And many people believe him on the subject of retake Laos. He isn't guilty of retake Laos, He is guilty of playing with people mind and take adbantage of his position. Remember he is a soldier, a soldier is trained to fight and never surrender. So that what he is doing. If you are a soldier, you will understand. If you are a junky person, you will have a junky reason. To me he isn't a hero but someone who is trying to take some advantage of a sitution and get cought in that situation. Back in Laos in those old day you must be strong if you want to survive and so he just did that. In America he took the advantage that many people really want to retake Laos, so he was in the position to take that advantage so he did. He knew all along that there is no way to retake Laos, but he doesn't want to lose face so he keep lying to people and now he got caught in his own game. Do you believe that he think that he will retake Laos with couple M-16 and couple old guys. you must by out of your mind if you think so. Do you really think that by buying couple guns send to somewhere in Asia to retake Laos. The Pathet-Lao own more AK-47 more than all the Lao in America. He was just playing with the elderly mind to collect some of those elderly's SSI or wellfare money. I know many Lao I mean many REAL Lao in America want to retake Laos, but they are uncapable to do so. Vang Pao is guilty of Laundry the money of those elderly and those real Lao. But he isn't guilty of retake Laos. Any way to retake a nation is the job of a soldier. I hope he will really do that some day. And I wish he is a real soldier and do the job of a real soldier some day.
If you call others stupid you are stupier than them. If you are so smart then why they are capable of taking you to their subject. You are the most stupid guys that's why you took their subject to mess up with your mind. you are the most stupid then them brother.
If you are smart why don't you bring a good subject in here? why are you interest in those stupid guys subject? be cause you are more stupid than them. me too I am stupid as you are that's why I am interest in those stupid guys' subjact as you are. if you know they are stupid then don't bother them. YOu know they are blind and you still follow them, talk about their subject then you are as stupid as they are or even more stupid than them my friend.
My very poor friend, I know what is in your mind. I know and understand my Lao people very good. They don't understand what is a national: through the history of Laos there are always lao who betray lao. Each of us always try to show that he is the smartdest. But remember Laos use to be bigger than Vietnam, Thailand and Mayama(Burma). And Look at us today Laos is one of the poorest country in the world. Laos always live in the bagging system. There are many stories in all the temples in America. There no organization which have more three people of Lao in America. I don't like the way Vang Pao do business but at leat he do something. He did and still be able to bring thousand people together. Look at Ours elderly leaders they all die one by one without doing anything. Even many of ours elderly leaders' children can't even bare theirs parents colors( Flag of three head elephant). I do want to say much but one question: Were are we now?
I don't understand why all of those damn people like Chinese, Viet., and Hmong want to stay in Laos even they know it's a poor country. All I know, we never invited them in the first place. Chinese used to beg America for jobs and educations too,Viet. begged America for more than billion dollars(US),Thailand begged America 50yrs before us,sometime selling sex for white men too,and Cambodia begs Korea,China,Japan,America, and many more to help them too. Speak of Vangpao,we don't do anything but we brought ourselve here more than hundred thousand people. We never shot and we never beg laws for mercy. I don't know about your elderly but mine have done very great job three of their children acquired B.A. degree and one is doctor. And my best friend's family her three sisters and two brothers received all college degrees. Right now,we're doing good. We love people but we hate only people who hates us. And we also live in peace that's right nobody hears about us. In my life, I never heard Laos invaded anybody's land. We beg nobody but they begged us to take their moneys and they rob us later. We're not dumb. We live in peace. We hate court is too expensive. We hate pill it cost fortune for treating depression. Finally, Laotian people hate to die because Love,sex,freedom,and money are too good to say good bye.
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken. There many Lao in America and other place want to have the magical touch of Vang Pao and go back to retake Laos. but they are good for nothing so there so affraid to show up. I bit if Vang Pao could really do on his mind then there will so many Lao to knee down and crow over to beg for some power in the government. But as usual Lao are so chicken and uncapable of doing anything for their own country. So they prefer stay home and eat cow ****. There are many Lao who dream to retake Laos, but they are only good to tell other that he is very smart and he is so protected by the status of buddha. And there no bullet can penetrate his body. But in really Lao are so CHIKEN. I am so shame of my Lao people, we only wait for others people to protect us. During vietnam war Lao right only fight each other in Vientiane Lao left only stay behaind North Vietnam. That's why now PathetLao have to kiss Vietnam ass and take cover behind Vietnam protection. and the Lao right was running after Hmong and still use Hmong name for many program in the USA. Poor Lao if I can change to Hmong or Lue I will do so. We always call Hmong or Lue Stupid but we always run after them. We always say we hate Thai but we always knee down in front of Thai. We say we hate viet but we always beg them. Many of Lao girl even prefer marry Viet. I am so shame of my Lao people when it come to the kissing others people ass and still say that we are smarter than others. I very don't want to have my Lao people hate me but I have to tell the truth. We the Lao are reallygood for begging and knee down. poor of me, you, and Lao. You can hate any way Lao.
Yes, lao also like to put lao down and they are good kha kon lao
Did you get to watch movie about Hmong recently? Did you see it even they own blood, they were raped and killing each other. Speaking Thai people, not to long ago,what was happening in Thailand? Were they loving each other or they loved to kill each other? Before 1965,N.Viet killed S. Viet.,million of people were killed. How can Viet. allowed Soviet used them to kill they own blood? Have you ever heard about Killing Field in Cambodia?Chinese government killed human for liver,heart, and eyes to sell to white power. What do you call that? In U.S.A. white used to murder white over black people,million of them were killed. Is that stupid? When Viet. communist took over Laos. They forced Laos to kill each other. For Laos itself,we always love each other. I'm proud to be Laos. For next life, I want to be Laos again. I know Laos people are smart and kind. I don't beleive it you called Laos stupid even they tittle are doctor,lawyer,nurse,engineer,and you name it we have it. If you call Laos stupid because they refused to be cool-hearted or evil like them. I understand that.
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken. There many Lao in America and other place want to have the magical touch of Vang Pao and go back to retake Laos. but they are good for nothing so there so affraid to show up. I bit if Vang Pao could really do on his mind then there will so many Lao to knee down and crow over to beg for some power in the government. But as usual Lao are so chicken and uncapable of doing anything for their own country. So they prefer stay home and eat cow ****. There are many Lao who dream to retake Laos, but they are only good to tell other that he is very smart and he is so protected by the status of buddha. And there no bullet can penetrate his body. But in really Lao are so CHIKEN. I am so shame of my Lao people, we only wait for others people to protect us. During vietnam war Lao right only fight each other in Vientiane Lao left only stay behaind North Vietnam. That's why now PathetLao have to kiss Vietnam ass and take cover behind Vietnam protection. and the Lao right was running after Hmong and still use Hmong name for many program in the USA. Poor Lao if I can change to Hmong or Lue I will do so. We always call Hmong or Lue Stupid but we always run after them. We always say we hate Thai but we always knee down in front of Thai. We say we hate viet but we always beg them. Many of Lao girl even prefer marry Viet. I am so shame of my Lao people when it come to the kissing others people ass and still say that we are smarter than others. I very don't want to have my Lao people hate me but I have to tell the truth. We the Lao are reallygood for begging and knee down. poor of me, you, and Lao. You can hate any way Lao.
HAHAHAHAHAH okay mung doode nice try... for your information lao never wanna be mong.
theonly thing i see is mong use lao name to get programs running like donations for vang paos stupid cause but say its a lao organization when all the members are mong. keep dreaming and stop hating. lao is on the rise weather u like it or nott were becoming more united. maybe mong had a chance to get a piece of land of their own when lao was divided into 4 different poweres during the war but eventhough mong were not strong enough to take anything. but now lao is almost as one. then we will show the world how we move forward instead of always livingin the past.
Who ever accuse of Vang Pao done and doing business on opium that person must hate hmong very much. Vang Pao never and didn't ever have time to do those junks. Yes the biggest opium dealers in Laos was General Oune Lathikoune, once chief of stuffs of Laos. He control all opium from Golden Triangle to South Vietnam, part of Thailand and Cambodia. Many DaKota and C130 pilots who have participated in those operation still live in United States and France. With the money that Vang Pao got from the CIA, he had no need to bother with those junks. I do know some of his friends or relatives have use Vang Pao's name to do such junk But Vang Pao NO. I am one of those pilots who have tranported General Oune's opium and I knew no one can't do anything without the order of General Oune. I did make good money at those day as a pilot. So you can't acuse Vang Pao if you don't know ****. If you hate Hmong just say so
Opium was sold it before CIA came in the picture. It's funny ha,former general Vangpao never made an attempt to get order from general Oune before he's doing business with CIA but opium. I hate only Hmong who played dirty job. Clean Hmong I love them to death. What about you? Do you hate Laos or do you hate Viet?I guess you must hate Viet. because they turned Vangpao in. Now, God on our side,you're eating each other. Do you think Viet. will let hmong take over Loas? You must be kidding me. Hey, my friends stay silent like us then you'll be o.k. Your mama at home will have food or decent home to stay.
I really disagre with you to respect the opium and heroin dealer . I understood that north Vietnamese invaded Laos by the million because General Vang Pao did not stay neutral. Laos was neutral country untill then. I did not see a good dim thing that general Vang Pao did for Laos and Lao people. The whole world knew that Laos was the most bombed country in the world. Today Laos still face the unexplosion bombs and a lot of people specially children still are injuried and killed by those bombs. You problely was not born yet, so don't common on something that you are not experiencing yourself. A lot of people lost their lives , families , home ,land...etc... and became the refuguees and some people fled without nothing and that was not all, the damm Thai people robbed them . Some of them were murdered and some women were sent to be prostitutes. I knew some were lucky and get advance of the situation without trouble to go to the United States and abraod . Over million Lao people were refuguees all over the world. So today there are million of Vietnamese in Loas some legally and some illigally and a lot of chinese as well. I hope and wish that the Lao goverment could still fix these problems by play smart roll to the world. Otherwise soon Laos will be taken over by China, Vietnam or Thailand.
Well, I don’t really respect him as a person especially after his irrational menace to commit a massive murder in Laos fortunately he was stopped before an act of malice might successfully have taken place.In fact, I was pretty blown away when I first heard it on the news. I thought he was enjoying the last part of his life and happily retired.But I respect his service to the country in the past and what can be more honorable than defending your land during the incessant illegal invasion by the enemy.Laos was militarily too weak to inflict even minimal scale destruction to Vietnam and hypothetically assuming, a wish to commit mayhem against Vietnam existed back then, Laos just didn’t possess that capability to back it up. And Vang Pao was relative to a size of a shrimp. Laos never had sufficient land army to march into anyone’s country not even enough to defend its own territory.But to say Vang Pao was the cause of Viet Gook’s invasion of our motherland is just a lame excuse. Whether or not Vang Pao had honored the neutrality, it wouldn’t make any difference because the Viets would eventually conquer Laos regardless.
In the essential comparison, our root is based on benevolence, empathy, gratitude and harmony. But for a simple reason, which I will explain later, Laos had been annexed numerous times throughout history.There had to be a heyday that our ancestors used to enjoy but due to a recurring power hungry and an insatiable greed from within that led to an act of betrayal; often in time, it was also for personal vengeance by hiding behind or joining foreign arm forces during the invasion of your own country and the willingness to quickly accept any precondition before an inauguration to the government position is shamefully unthinkable. Their selfishness had led to the alteration of our greatness, our determined culture and gradually weakened the true legalistic chauvinism which I think was an ultimate cause of our downfall. If we allow the combination of what I said to regress, any rise to better living standard will not sustain and the routine spite/envy among Laotians should fade out. Calling each other “Lao nork or Lao nai ”stupid, is unimaginable when we have enough of other races looking down upon us. We just make it worse among ourselves. I am completely against General Vang Pao’s today-policy of confrontation.
Quite frankly, was there anything more that this Kingdom of Lan Xang ever wanted than becoming a peacefully neutral nation in the past? It was just unfortunate reality that Laos was plunged into an impasse of rising tensions between the two big powers “United States and the Soviet Union” Their tense competition for influence and supremacy had made the world lived in fear for so many years. They would not directly confront each other because big boys don’t fight but they played their proxy games by arming, financing and mingling in other countries’ internal affairs profoundly causing great divisions among the third world leaders. Both possessed capability to even destroy the world if they wanted to and it would be less than a few hours to wipe out any country should there be a wish. Nevertheless, they respected each other to the extent and they never crossed the presumed-consensual redline between them during the cold war.Their offensive missiles could travel thousands of miles by simply activating from land based, air based, and sea based system like the underwater submarine to which it could also launch while submerged and deadly accurate because of the assisted satellite guidance.
Both of them impressively aimed destructive weapons at each other, but none dared to push the button because the end result would be self-assured annihilation. Now, their military is many times more advanced than before and the most recent use is the cluster bombs, it can penetrate deep into the concrete-steal made bunkers before igniting its violent explosion that kill you due to internal organic failures.
Lastly, I just want to say that General Vang Pao has no one to blame but himself for making the unthinkable plan. Justice will prevail at the end and everything will simply fade away.
BruceLaoMan
-- Edited by BLM69 on Sunday 17th of May 2009 08:38:44 AM
Vang Pao was and still a General. He knew and know that he can't never retake Laos. He knew that the United States have never and will never help him to take or retake Laos. But in his mind he must continued his lagacy. And many people believe him on the subject of retake Laos. He isn't guilty of retake Laos, He is guilty of playing with people mind and take adbantage of his position. Remember he is a soldier, a soldier is trained to fight and never surrender. So that what he is doing. If you are a soldier, you will understand. If you are a junky person, you will have a junky reason. To me he isn't a hero but someone who is trying to take some advantage of a sitution and get cought in that situation. Back in Laos in those old day you must be strong if you want to survive and so he just did that. In America he took the advantage that many people really want to retake Laos, so he was in the position to take that advantage so he did. He knew all along that there is no way to retake Laos, but he doesn't want to lose face so he keep lying to people and now he got caught in his own game. Do you believe that he think that he will retake Laos with couple M-16 and couple old guys. you must by out of your mind if you think so. Do you really think that by buying couple guns send to somewhere in Asia to retake Laos. The Pathet-Lao own more AK-47 more than all the Lao in America. He was just playing with the elderly mind to collect some of those elderly's SSI or wellfare money. I know many Lao I mean many REAL Lao in America want to retake Laos, but they are uncapable to do so. Vang Pao is guilty of Laundry the money of those elderly and those real Lao. But he isn't guilty of retake Laos. Any way to retake a nation is the job of a soldier. I hope he will really do that some day. And I wish he is a real soldier and do the job of a real soldier some day.
I think Van Pao is being used by some of his 10 gangs. It was Lo Cha Thao and Harrison Jack who are the main characters in this plot. My Lao fellows, consider this is our wake up call.
Well, I don’t really respect him as a person especially after his irrational menace to commit a massive murder in Laos fortunately he was stopped before an act of malice might successfully have taken place.In fact, I was pretty blown away when I first heard it on the news. I thought he was enjoying the last part of his life and happily retired.But I respect his service to the country in the past and what can be more honorable than defending your land during the incessant illegal invasion by the enemy.Laos was militarily too weak to inflict even minimal scale destruction to Vietnam and hypothetically assuming, a wish to commit mayhem against Vietnam existed back then, Laos just didn’t possess that capability to back it up. And Vang Pao was relative to a size of a shrimp. Laos never had sufficient land army to march into anyone’s country not even enough to defend its own territory.But to say Vang Pao was the cause of Viet Gook’s invasion of our motherland is just a lame excuse. Whether or not Vang Pao had honored the neutrality, it wouldn’t make any difference because the Viets would eventually conquer Laos regardless.
In the essential comparison, our root is based on benevolence, empathy, gratitude and harmony. But for a simple reason, which I will explain later, Laos had been annexed numerous times throughout history.There had to be a heyday that our ancestors used to enjoy but due to a recurring power hungry and an insatiable greed from within that led to an act of betrayal; often in time, it was also for personal vengeance by hiding behind or joining foreign arm forces during the invasion of your own country and the willingness to quickly accept any precondition before an inauguration to the government position is shamefully unthinkable. Their selfishness had led to the alteration of our greatness, our determined culture and gradually weakened the true legalistic chauvinism which I think was an ultimate cause of our downfall. If we allow the combination of what I said to regress, any rise to better living standard will not sustain and the routine spite/envy among Laotians should fade out. Calling each other “Lao nork or Lao nai ”stupid, is unimaginable when we have enough of other races looking down upon us. We just make it worse among ourselves. I am completely against General Vang Pao’s today-policy of confrontation.
Quite frankly, was there anything more that this Kingdom of Lan Xang ever wanted than becoming a peacefully neutral nation in the past? It was just unfortunate reality that Laos was plunged into an impasse of rising tensions between the two big powers “United States and the Soviet Union” Their tense competition for influence and supremacy had made the world lived in fear for so many years. They would not directly confront each other because big boys don’t fight but they played their proxy games by arming, financing and mingling in other countries’ internal affairs profoundly causing great divisions among the third world leaders. Both possessed capability to even destroy the world if they wanted to and it would be less than a few hours to wipe out any country should there be a wish. Nevertheless, they respected each other to the extent and they never crossed the presumed-consensual redline between them during the cold war.Their offensive missiles could travel thousands of miles by simply activating from land based, air based, and sea based system like the underwater submarine to which it could also launch while submerged and deadly accurate because of the assisted satellite guidance.
Both of them impressively aimed destructive weapons at each other, but none dared to push the button because the end result would be self-assured annihilation. Now, their military is many times more advanced than before and the most recent use is the cluster bombs, it can penetrate deep into the concrete-steal made bunkers before igniting its violent explosion that kill you due to internal organic failures.
Lastly, I just want to say that General Vang Pao has no one to blame but himself for making the unthinkable plan. Justice will prevail at the end and everything will simply fade away.
BruceLaoMan
-- Edited by BLM69 on Sunday 17th of May 2009 08:38:44 AM
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken. There many Lao in America and other place want to have the magical touch of Vang Pao and go back to retake Laos. but they are good for nothing so there so affraid to show up. I bit if Vang Pao could really do on his mind then there will so many Lao to knee down and crow over to beg for some power in the government. But as usual Lao are so chicken and uncapable of doing anything for their own country. So they prefer stay home and eat cow ****. There are many Lao who dream to retake Laos, but they are only good to tell other that he is very smart and he is so protected by the status of buddha. And there no bullet can penetrate his body. But in really Lao are so CHIKEN. I am so shame of my Lao people, we only wait for others people to protect us. During vietnam war Lao right only fight each other in Vientiane Lao left only stay behaind North Vietnam. That's why now PathetLao have to kiss Vietnam ass and take cover behind Vietnam protection. and the Lao right was running after Hmong and still use Hmong name for many program in the USA. Poor Lao if I can change to Hmong or Lue I will do so. We always call Hmong or Lue Stupid but we always run after them. We always say we hate Thai but we always knee down in front of Thai. We say we hate viet but we always beg them. Many of Lao girl even prefer marry Viet. I am so shame of my Lao people when it come to the kissing others people ass and still say that we are smarter than others. I very don't want to have my Lao people hate me but I have to tell the truth. We the Lao are reallygood for begging and knee down. poor of me, you, and Lao. You can hate any way Lao.
I am Laotian believe me. I don't hate you. I live in a country that freedom of speech is not prohibited. Thank you for calling me a chicken. Yes,I am chicken because I don't want spend the last of life in the small confine cell. Sometime,I scare of those jail people will poke my sss. Hey,man calling me a chicken,I think is better than called me a forest pig because Viet. opened their eyes 7/24 to capture me for fun game. Being a pig is struggled and inconvenient,they unable to move fast enough. Knowing Viet. they love it, so they shot or drown all of them before reach to Thailand(Thai is Laos brother). Why pigs moved to Thailand?Begging for life. Anyway, having a brother is good. We fight like cat and dog, but we always forgive and love each other more than before. Did you see it recently Laos singers received special invitation from Thailand? We are so privilege to Thai fan. Is that some thing?When you're good,some one willing to pay anything. Even in USA too,Thai singers invited themselve to come. What can we do? Blood? We need to stick to gether. Right? Hey, I don't mind to be a good Hmong,so I can travel with them to their country. Do you know where is it?I heard Thai said Hmong don't own Thailand either. Oh!I forgot to ask. Is that true when Hmong came to Laos,Lue wanted to kill them all? Lue is tuff people but we get along so well. Even in USA, we always there for each other. I wonder why Hmong changed their name ? Is that true Meow means barbarian? That could be true though Look at Vangpoa and his people were murdered white. Wow! Hmong so popular. Hey, my friend but not all Hmongs are bad though. Speaking of Viet, I don't know why they so crazy about laos boys and girls. Only one thing that I can assure you my friend because our cletoris is shining like diamond and after my boys have circumcised the head itself shines no different from nuclear head. it's powerful that's why Viet. so in love with it. Hey, my friend are you regreted for feeling ashamed to be chicken? or more ashame to see your fellows sold their pride. I can't believe it after all Viet. tried to clean them up. Your friends in USA still kiss and suck. Do you how many Hmong kids don't have dad after having sex with their enemies( Viet)? Don't be suprise! A lot! Hey,my friends after all being chicken is not too bad.
Well, I don’t really respect him as a person especially after his irrational menace to commit a massive murder in Laos fortunately he was stopped before an act of malice might successfully have taken place.In fact, I was pretty blown away when I first heard it on the news. I thought he was enjoying the last part of his life and happily retired.But I respect his service to the country in the past and what can be more honorable than defending your land during the incessant illegal invasion by the enemy.Laos was militarily too weak to inflict even minimal scale destruction to Vietnam and hypothetically assuming, a wish to commit mayhem against Vietnam existed back then, Laos just didn’t possess that capability to back it up. And Vang Pao was relative to a size of a shrimp. Laos never had sufficient land army to march into anyone’s country not even enough to defend its own territory.But to say Vang Pao was the cause of Viet Gook’s invasion of our motherland is just a lame excuse. Whether or not Vang Pao had honored the neutrality, it wouldn’t make any difference because the Viets would eventually conquer Laos regardless.
In the essential comparison, our root is based on benevolence, empathy, gratitude and harmony. But for a simple reason, which I will explain later, Laos had been annexed numerous times throughout history.There had to be a heyday that our ancestors used to enjoy but due to a recurring power hungry and an insatiable greed from within that led to an act of betrayal; often in time, it was also for personal vengeance by hiding behind or joining foreign arm forces during the invasion of your own country and the willingness to quickly accept any precondition before an inauguration to the government position is shamefully unthinkable. Their selfishness had led to the alteration of our greatness, our determined culture and gradually weakened the true legalistic chauvinism which I think was an ultimate cause of our downfall. If we allow the combination of what I said to regress, any rise to better living standard will not sustain and the routine spite/envy among Laotians should fade out. Calling each other “Lao nork or Lao nai ”stupid, is unimaginable when we have enough of other races looking down upon us. We just make it worse among ourselves. I am completely against General Vang Pao’s today-policy of confrontation.
Quite frankly, was there anything more that this Kingdom of Lan Xang ever wanted than becoming a peacefully neutral nation in the past? It was just unfortunate reality that Laos was plunged into an impasse of rising tensions between the two big powers “United States and the Soviet Union” Their tense competition for influence and supremacy had made the world lived in fear for so many years. They would not directly confront each other because big boys don’t fight but they played their proxy games by arming, financing and mingling in other countries’ internal affairs profoundly causing great divisions among the third world leaders. Both possessed capability to even destroy the world if they wanted to and it would be less than a few hours to wipe out any country should there be a wish. Nevertheless, they respected each other to the extent and they never crossed the presumed-consensual redline between them during the cold war.Their offensive missiles could travel thousands of miles by simply activating from land based, air based, and sea based system like the underwater submarine to which it could also launch while submerged and deadly accurate because of the assisted satellite guidance.
Both of them impressively aimed destructive weapons at each other, but none dared to push the button because the end result would be self-assured annihilation. Now, their military is many times more advanced than before and the most recent use is the cluster bombs, it can penetrate deep into the concrete-steal made bunkers before igniting its violent explosion that kill you due to internal organic failures.
Lastly, I just want to say that General Vang Pao has no one to blame but himself for making the unthinkable plan. Justice will prevail at the end and everything will simply fade away.
BruceLaoMan
When I said that I was blown away, I meant I was in a complete shock and overwhelm with emotion.
-- Edited by BLM69 on Sunday 17th of May 2009 11:40:49 PM
if the bus was shot on the road 13th, people would say " shooting by the Patikan Vangpao"? I was born in the new generation (after Lao PDR was found in 1975), all the information related to vangpao is bad, he was a bad guy and rebel during the War, but as far as Hmong people concerned, He has done many good thing for his people that anyone here might not know. if you read a book about him which has written by american, the author would write and describe him as a hero and brave. as for the Lao history text book, he is a rebel and betrayed his own country and people, it s called " PATIKAN"
For khonthakek then read the book The Politics of Heroin by Alfred McCoy's and you will learn more about Vang Pao, why not it's going open your mind..... and american who praised Vang Pao because they saw him as a good servant, served the CIA and american policy towards LAOS at that time, I am not surprised for that.
Have you read that boook, why don't you share with us what the author wrote about VangPao then? people who are in Vangpao's side called " Patikan" are you??
if the bus was shot on the road 13th, people would say " shooting by the Patikan Vangpao"? I was born in the new generation (after Lao PDR was found in 1975), all the information related to vangpao is bad, he was a bad guy and rebel during the War, but as far as Hmong people concerned, He has done many good thing for his people that anyone here might not know. if you read a book about him which has written by american, the author would write and describe him as a hero and brave. as for the Lao history text book, he is a rebel and betrayed his own country and people, it s called " PATIKAN"
For khonthakek then read the book The Politics of Heroin by Alfred McCoy's and you will learn more about Vang Pao, why not it's going open your mind..... and american who praised Vang Pao because they saw him as a good servant, served the CIA and american policy towards LAOS at that time, I am not surprised for that.
Have you read that boook, why don't you share with us what the author wrote about VangPao then? people who are in Vangpao's side called " Patikan" are you??
There is nothing going to stop you reading that book, can't you read english, don't you have the ability to find that book, if you really wanted to know then buy it. Otherwise forget about it. Vang Pao was name ' a despotic warlord' in Alfred McCoy's respected book The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, published on Asia Times on 6/14/2005. You are right in the past USA regarded Bill Laden a freedom fighter when he fought the Soviet Union in Aghanistan, they supported Sadam Hussein and praised Sadam a lot at that time because Sadam Hussein fought Iran, and together with China and England CIA supported Pol Pot, supplied arms for him to fight Vietnam....so yes Laos communist government not only called Vang Pao and his followers Patikan but Puok Kai Sat, as well and the same like Vang Pao side called the Laos govenment as China, Vietnam's puppet so it's going on and on, and now Bill Laden is USA wanted man....so that's the way politic and war made us like you see now, for the super power is just like a game, a game playing with human life.
BLM,please don't minimize your knowledge. I'm enjoyed reading every words that you had have written. Sometime, I have to ask my best friend (dictionary)to help me out. It's o.k. Thank you!
Sure, as long as there is a little appreciation from someone like you, I will try to post my comments every now and then whenever I get a chance.I am glad that you look them up in the dictionary for words you don’t know.You will gradually grow your vocabulary in due time.Keep up with that and take care for now.
Who said Vang pao is still general, but I will tell you that general but do not have solder, no land, no hope and dream.
If he became US citizen,He's no longer general.
He is former or X- lao general of the Lao army. The Hmong are very united and help each other and care about their Hmong fella who are still have been hunted and murdeer and also their women have been raped in the jungle of Laos still. So Vang Pao have been asked the United States so many times to help those Hmong who have been lelf behind but the US goverment dinie to help . So General Vang Pao have to do something so he chose and copy the Al Qaida ( Islamic terrorist ) that was the big mistakes that the American people don't support terrorist. Also genaral Vang Pao knew that he could never be able to defeat and over throw the Lao goverment with the back up by the Vietmanese army. When he chose to be terrorist that is again American Law. He would like to blow up goverment building , bridgee betweem Laos and Vietnam ....raods and dams, communication and airpot so to get the attention of the world that Vietnam are hunting the Hmong like the animal and raped and murdeer the Hmong. The Hmong were very up set when they did not get support by the Lao people in the United States. Well, the Lao people are peaceful people and the hate to see war and blood sched in Laos. If the Hmong came and ask the Lao american people for none violent solution and complain for the human been right that the Vietnamese army have been doing to the Hmong and I believe that Lao- American and the United nation will listen to them and have the problems resolve in the peaceful way. Lao goverment could call the Vietnamese army to stop because Laos still need a lot of AID and helf from the united nation.
if the bus was shot on the road 13th, people would say " shooting by the Patikan Vangpao"? I was born in the new generation (after Lao PDR was found in 1975), all the information related to vangpao is bad, he was a bad guy and rebel during the War, but as far as Hmong people concerned, He has done many good thing for his people that anyone here might not know. if you read a book about him which has written by american, the author would write and describe him as a hero and brave. as for the Lao history text book, he is a rebel and betrayed his own country and people, it s called " PATIKAN"
For khonthakek then read the book The Politics of Heroin by Alfred McCoy's and you will learn more about Vang Pao, why not it's going open your mind..... and american who praised Vang Pao because they saw him as a good servant, served the CIA and american policy towards LAOS at that time, I am not surprised for that.
Have you read that boook, why don't you share with us what the author wrote about VangPao then? people who are in Vangpao's side called " Patikan" are you??
You can be good to your kids. It doesn't mean that you cannot become a harmful person. If Vangpao meant well for Laos,why he paid tax directly to French. He was happy because French granted him to become self-government which means he can do whatever he wants. He didn't have to listen to Laos government. Laos has two presidents before Viet. communist took over. Of course, Hmong like him a lot because he was only their first president among his own people for many yrs. When American wrote that book, He heard only one side story. But over all Laotian people never hated Hmong. You know Laos loves peace. This is war between Viet.,Hmong,and American. Again, Laos country still control by Viet and Chinese. But Chinese and Viet are brothers just like Lao and Thai. That's fact. You can deny all you want ,but this is so true.
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken.
HAHAHAHAHAH okay mung doode nice try... for your information lao never wanna be mong.
theonly thing i see is mong use lao name to get programs running like donations for vang paos stupid cause but say its a lao organization when all the members are mong. keep dreaming and stop hating. lao is on the rise weather u like it or nott were becoming more united. maybe mong had a chance to get a piece of land of their own when lao was divided into 4 different poweres during the war but eventhough mong were not strong enough to take anything. but now lao is almost as one. then we will show the world how we move forward instead of always livingin the past.
You could not denie that once Laos used to be bigger than Vietnam , camdobia, Burma and Thailand. Laos lost most of their land to Thailand because all Lao people have in common 1, jealous among their own people. 2. corrupted . 3. Betray their own people ( stab their own people in the back ) 4. coward unlike the Hmong people they are united and stick together no matter what. Soon Laos will be totally rule by Vietnam , Chinese. Watch and see ....Lao is good at kissing ass and begging for Aid and let the foreign countries get benefit and advange from Laos.
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken.
HAHAHAHAHAH okay mung doode nice try... for your information lao never wanna be mong.
theonly thing i see is mong use lao name to get programs running like donations for vang paos stupid cause but say its a lao organization when all the members are mong. keep dreaming and stop hating. lao is on the rise weather u like it or nott were becoming more united. maybe mong had a chance to get a piece of land of their own when lao was divided into 4 different poweres during the war but eventhough mong were not strong enough to take anything. but now lao is almost as one. then we will show the world how we move forward instead of always livingin the past.
You could not denie that once Laos used to be bigger than Vietnam , camdobia, Burma and Thailand. Laos lost most of their land to Thailand because all Lao people have in common 1, jealous among their own people. 2. corrupted . 3. Betray their own people ( stab their own people in the back ) 4. coward unlike the Hmong people they are united and stick together no matter what. Soon Laos will be totally rule by Vietnam , Chinese. Watch and see ....Lao is good at kissing ass and begging for Aid and let the foreign countries get benefit and advange from Laos.
Look who's talking. China is bigger than Loas. why are you in Laos country in first place? And why your people still in Laos? Are you kissing my sss or your people still kissing Viet. sss. Baby, how do fell when you have no land to claim? This is bad thing about Vangpao he never taught his people to appreciate Loatian at all. Listen to this man said. It's sad. Isn't it? Stay in their country,but still talk bad thing about them like shiiit. Vangpao killed many of innocent Laos citizens. We didn't do anything. Believe me man. when we stay silent you better be happy. Don't force it too hard,o.k. Hey,man I know you live in U.S.A. but think about your relative who still live in laos. I am Laotian. I have a lot of cousins who still live there. I watch What I am going to say. You know it will effect innocent Hmong especially people from here(U.S.A.) want to go back Loas to do business. Of course, Viet. will take over Laos country by populations. I have to admit Laos men are not very active as much as Viet.,Chinese and Hmong. See Hmong came to Laos in small tiny group. Right now, their people almost double Laotian. Hey, my laotian men you have to be more active than usual or else we'll behind our friends.
There are only few Lao because we Lao are so chiken.
HAHAHAHAHAH okay mung doode nice try... for your information lao never wanna be mong.
theonly thing i see is mong use lao name to get programs running like donations for vang paos stupid cause but say its a lao organization when all the members are mong. keep dreaming and stop hating. lao is on the rise weather u like it or nott were becoming more united. maybe mong had a chance to get a piece of land of their own when lao was divided into 4 different poweres during the war but eventhough mong were not strong enough to take anything. but now lao is almost as one. then we will show the world how we move forward instead of always livingin the past.
You could not denie that once Laos used to be bigger than Vietnam , camdobia, Burma and Thailand. Laos lost most of their land to Thailand because all Lao people have in common 1, jealous among their own people. 2. corrupted . 3. Betray their own people ( stab their own people in the back ) 4. coward unlike the Hmong people they are united and stick together no matter what. Soon Laos will be totally rule by Vietnam , Chinese. Watch and see ....Lao is good at kissing ass and begging for Aid and let the foreign countries get benefit and advange from Laos.
Look who's talking. China is bigger than Loas. why are you in Laos country in first place? And why your people still in Laos? Are you kissing my sss or your people still kissing Viet. sss. Baby, how do fell when you have no land to claim? This is bad thing about Vangpao he never taught his people to appreciate Loatian at all. Listen to this man said. It's sad. Isn't it? Stay in their country,but still talk bad thing about them like shiiit. Vangpao killed many of innocent Laos citizens. We didn't do anything. Believe me man. when we stay silent you better be happy. Don't force it too hard,o.k. Hey,man I know you live in U.S.A. but think about your relative who still live in laos. I am Laotian. I have a lot of cousins who still live there. I watch What I am going to say. You know it will effect innocent Hmong especially people from here(U.S.A.) want to go back Loas to do business. Of course, Viet. will take over Laos country by populations. I have to admit Laos men are not very active as much as Viet.,Chinese and Hmong. See Hmong came to Laos in small tiny group. Right now, their people almost double Laotian. Hey, my laotian men you have to be more active than usual or else we'll behind our friends.
Stick together of what? Very funny! About 6 or 7 yrs ago, Hmong girl killed her own kids, six of them. The youngest one only 4yrs and the oldest one was 11 or 12 yrs old. Druged them and hung them. Damn, she's evil. But I forgive her because she was abusive by polygomist husband. Sad!!!!!!!! Here you go again,bad leader and bad Vangpao.
Some of my brothers Lao who posted some comment in here are So retard. They talk like when I eat too much hot chili and I release it in the toilet. Some have no idea about Laos, South-east Asia and Vang Pao. One who talk about his family is doing good. He talk about all the others counties in South-east Asia are begging for money. But actuelly Laos is the bigest begger in the world and even my Lao people are traditionally begger. Yes, may be his family is doing fine but Laos is still one of poorest country in the world. Because the selfish people like him that Laos is still being the bigest bigger in the world. Because he think that his family is doing fine so he didn't or won't do anyhting for his people and his coutry. He is so proud about his family but he don't care about his people and his country. Do you think that Mr President Obama has the same thought? I don't think so. Why Laos is one of the poorest in the world. Because most my Lao people have the same thinking. No one care about the country and its people. everyone who have the chance to be in the power were, are and will be so corrupted like him. He have the chance to come to America and got to one of the best education in the world. So he gonna show up to the rest of Lao that he is fine. BULL **** MAN!!!!!!!!. People like this guy need to be sent to reeducation camp. In Laos in the old time and now are the same only people in the power can have their son or daugther go the best education. But in America, Canada, France, Germany, UK ect... every citizen have the right to access to education. Laos, no no no Only people in the power system only can have access to education. Man you better keep those kind of idea for you and your corrupted family. I bit your dad back in the old day were one of the most corrupted in Laos. You deserve to go to the reeducation camp. there no such place in Laos now, but we need to make one for you, brother
Some of my brothers Lao who posted some comment in here are So retard. They talk like when I eat too much hot chili and I release it in the toilet. Some have no idea about Laos, South-east Asia and Vang Pao. One who talk about his family is doing good. He talk about all the others counties in South-east Asia are begging for money. But actuelly Laos is the bigest begger in the world and even my Lao people are traditionally begger. Yes, may be his family is doing fine but Laos is still one of poorest country in the world. Because the selfish people like him that Laos is still being the bigest bigger in the world. Because he think that his family is doing fine so he didn't or won't do anyhting for his people and his coutry. He is so proud about his family but he don't care about his people and his country. Do you think that Mr President Obama has the same thought? I don't think so. Why Laos is one of the poorest in the world. Because most my Lao people have the same thinking. No one care about the country and its people. everyone who have the chance to be in the power were, are and will be so corrupted like him. He have the chance to come to America and got to one of the best education in the world. So he gonna show up to the rest of Lao that he is fine. BULL **** MAN!!!!!!!!. People like this guy need to be sent to reeducation camp. In Laos in the old time and now are the same only people in the power can have their son or daugther go the best education. But in America, Canada, France, Germany, UK ect... every citizen have the right to access to education. Laos, no no no Only people in the power system only can have access to education. Man you better keep those kind of idea for you and your corrupted family. I bit your dad back in the old day were one of the most corrupted in Laos. You deserve to go to the reeducation camp. there no such place in Laos now, but we need to make one for you, brother
They are not retard . they are just selfish , corrupted , betray or may be just don't know.
Some of my brothers Lao who posted some comment in here are So retard. They talk like when I eat too much hot chili and I release it in the toilet. Some have no idea about Laos, South-east Asia and Vang Pao. One who talk about his family is doing good. He talk about all the others counties in South-east Asia are begging for money. But actuelly Laos is the bigest begger in the world and even my Lao people are traditionally begger. Yes, may be his family is doing fine but Laos is still one of poorest country in the world. Because the selfish people like him that Laos is still being the bigest bigger in the world. Because he think that his family is doing fine so he didn't or won't do anyhting for his people and his coutry. He is so proud about his family but he don't care about his people and his country. Do you think that Mr President Obama has the same thought? I don't think so. Why Laos is one of the poorest in the world. Because most my Lao people have the same thinking. No one care about the country and its people. everyone who have the chance to be in the power were, are and will be so corrupted like him. He have the chance to come to America and got to one of the best education in the world. So he gonna show up to the rest of Lao that he is fine. BULL **** MAN!!!!!!!!. People like this guy need to be sent to reeducation camp. In Laos in the old time and now are the same only people in the power can have their son or daugther go the best education. But in America, Canada, France, Germany, UK ect... every citizen have the right to access to education. Laos, no no no Only people in the power system only can have access to education. Man you better keep those kind of idea for you and your corrupted family. I bit your dad back in the old day were one of the most corrupted in Laos. You deserve to go to the reeducation camp. there no such place in Laos now, but we need to make one for you, brother
They are not retard . they are just selfish , corrupted , betray or may be just don't know.
When Vangpao became supper power in self-government and general,I wonder why 90% of Hmongs still live worse than Chickens' house? What happen to his salary during an active army as general and profit from opium or CIA incentive pluse promotion? Ha!He's not corrupted but just kept all the moneys to himself. I see my friend. When they said Laos is poorest country,wait a minute, is that Hmong part of 49 Ethics groups or not? I guess not by listen to their insulting. Man,Vangpao had taught you guys so well. My fellow Hmongs your forgot so fast. Don't you remember that we used to stay in reeducation camp together? Even one of your brother used to confessed to CNN that Viet. were treated Laotian better than them in the camp. My friends how can you called Laotian retarded? We never drank chemical that calls rainbows before. Anyway, it seems like it doesn't go anywhere only we put each other down. Can we get along since both us are animals like Chicken and Pig? You know better right dogs love to eat us more than anything else on Earth. Hey,I don't care anymore whatever u are going to say but this is going to be my last confrontation.
Hey!!!!!!!!!!! you so stupid you know don't scold others like this because you can't do or sucess anything as he has done for his people, before scolding others just look at you how you can improve yourself!!!!!!!!............?