It is a fake fake movie for me

Yes! Yes ! I was watching the first clip VDO. This was 1000% truth about it, that Ayuthaya sent a Daughter to Lanxang to be Phamahesee of King Sethathirath. Because I read a Ayuthaya history book in English not Thai, and at that time ( Pha chao Sethathirath Rule both Kingdoms.( Laxang and Lanna ) and the most powerfull man in that Regions. so when Pha naresuan ( at that time pha naresuan was not a King yet,) Heard about Pha-Suriyothai will send her Princes Daughther to Lanxang then He got together with Burmese and Killed all the soldiers that protect the princes, and take her off to his castle, and this book i rented out at my local library.. and this Movie is not about King-Sethathirath, is about the King-Naresuan Mahalath. and Pha chao Sethathilath happend to be in some part of it..

Yes! Brother I completely agree with you 100% about this, and  I also didn't put it out the hole history about this once. Afraid people might fall as sleep if say the hole things.Ha Ha . and  I also happpen to be a very open mind person and willing to lean from others. not just one side story, That's why i've come this far...Thanks for advise, ( Oh by the way I only said that Queen Suriyothai sent her Princes Daughter to Lanxang to be Pha Mahesee of the King Sethathilath, Right!! other than that I didn't mention any things. Am i right..

The Name of the Movie is Naresuan-Mahalath, I believed. and It' had three Parts 1-2-3 and I had never seen the Movie before only in the Clip VDO in here,But truth about it, Because i've read it  Thai history book that translated in English. I rented out from my local library. next time i go to library i will write down the name the Author he is Thai 100%..

FACT~~~~~~!!!!!

Sayasetha The Great had a contract with Ayudhaya cuz Pisanulok (Naresuan family) and Xiengmai were defeated by Burmese Burengnong.That time Sayasetha The Great was not the king of Lanxang and Lanna. After Sayasetha The Great brought Emeral Budha from Xiengmai to Xiengthong(Luang Pabang now) and could not be successful in Xiengthong throne,he came back to Xiengmai and also failed to be the king of Lanna for Mekutti was a new King of Lanna under the protege' of Burmese.He travelled around Xiengsaen (Xieng Rai now) and could not overcome any troup there.In 2096 BE(1553) he made his own chronicle stone said that he was the king of Lanxang and Lanna despite the fact he was a king of nowhere.That stone he scrupted was at Nang Chandee Temple in Xiengkong and after that moved to Hauyxai,Laos.Thai military brought the stone back to Lampang and now is in Xiengmai National Museum, so called Chor-mor7(ชม.7).

After Sayasetha The Great failed in throne quest (both Xiengthong and Xiengmai) he came to an old city of Sikotabun Empire and rebuilt it to Vieng Chanh, he was now a true King and very strong.

Lanxang in the mention of Thai history during Naresuan Prince was not Luangpabang, it was Vieng Chanh!

After that Sayasetha The Great came to Prathat Si Song Huk in Loie(Thailand), he made a chronicle stone there to mention that he was a son-in-law of Lanpeai.He was the King who changed the name of Xiengthong to Lanxang, Yonok to Lanna and finally Ayudhaya to Lanpeai.

It was true that the Prinecess of Queen Suriyothai was a wife of Sayasetha The Great but not the Queen,his queen was another girl. It was true that Xiengmai and Sukhothai+Pitsanulok were under Burmese Burengnong.It was true that Viengchanh helped Ayuthaya while the father of Naresuan Prince betrayed Ayudhaya (And King Naresuan corrected this fact later).The movie is quite right and quite different from the modified history in Thai classroom. They learn Siam History(started from Sukhothai and Ayudhaya) not Thai history (started from Yonok in the North,Si Kotabun in North-East,Tam Pralingh in the South,Si Mahosod in the East and Tavarawadi in the central).I don't know if Thai can accept that Lao is also Thai-Tai.I don't know how Thais feel if know Lao history says "Ayudhaya was set up by a son of an ancient king of Lao".

If Sayasetha is The Great ,Bhothisa (his father) is the Greatest.Fah-Ngum,Khoon Juang were the great in Fabel while Pa Bhothisa was a strongest ever in Xiengthong Empire real history.

King Naresuan was the true Great while his father was not.

-- Edited by ninjalaos on Wednesday 17th of June 2009 07:21:49 PM

Anyone know where and how he died?

Photisarath married a princess from Chiang Mai (now part of northern Thailand), and when his father-in-law, the ruler of Chiang Mai, died in 1546 without male issue, Photisarath had his own son Setthathirat I placed on the Chiang Mai throne. When Photisarath died in the following year, after a fatal accident while hunting wild elephants, Setthathirat succeeded him and joined together the two kingdoms--which were soon embroiled in Siamese-Burmese wars that devastated much of the region over the next half-century.Setthathirath (1534–1572) is considered one of the great leaders in Lao history. In 1570, he successfully defended Laos against the military campaign of the Burmese conqueror Bayinnaung, who had already subdued Xieng Mai (Chiang Mai) in 1556 and Ayutthaya in 1569. Setthathirath was a prolific builder and erected many Buddhist monuments including Wat Xieng Thong in Louang Phrabang and the That Luang in Vientiane. In 1572, a conspiracy between a Lord Phya Nakhon and the former abbot of Wat Maximavat, who held personal grudges against Setthathirath, led to the king's murder in the southern frontier of the country. He was 38 years of age.

ninjalaos wrote:

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FACT~~~~~~!!!!!

Sayasetha The Great had a contract with Ayudhaya cuz Pisanulok (Naresuan family) and Xiengmai were defeated by Burmese Burengnong.That time Sayasetha The Great was not the king of Lanxang and Lanna. After Sayasetha The Great brought Emeral Budha from Xiengmai to Xiengthong(Luang Pabang now) and could not be successful in Xiengthong throne,he came back to Xiengmai and also failed to be the king of Lanna for Mekutti was a new King of Lanna under the protege' of Burmese.He travelled around Xiengsaen (Xieng Rai now) and could not overcome any troup there.In 2096 BE(1553) he made his own chronicle stone said that he was the king of Lanxang and Lanna despite the fact he was a king of nowhere.That stone he scrupted was at Nang Chandee Temple in Xiengkong and after that moved to Hauyxai,Laos.Thai military brought the stone back to Lampang and now is in Xiengmai National Museum, so called Chor-mor7(ชม.7).

After Sayasetha The Great failed in throne quest (both Xiengthong and Xiengmai) he came to an old city of Sikotabun Empire and rebuilt it to Vieng Chanh, he was now a true King and very strong.

Lanxang in the mention of Thai history during Naresuan Prince was not Luangpabang, it was Vieng Chanh!

After that Sayasetha The Great came to Prathat Si Song Huk in Loie(Thailand), he made a chronicle stone there to mention that he was a son-in-law of Lanpeai.He was the King who changed the name of Xiengthong to Lanxang, Yonok to Lanna and finally Ayudhaya to Lanpeai.

It was true that the Prinecess of Queen Suriyothai was a wife of Sayasetha The Great but not the Queen,his queen was another girl. It was true that Xiengmai and Sukhothai+Pitsanulok were under Burmese Burengnong.It was true that Viengchanh helped Ayuthaya while the father of Naresuan Prince betrayed Ayudhaya (And King Naresuan corrected this fact later).The movie is quite right and quite different from the modified history in Thai classroom. They learn Siam History(started from Sukhothai and Ayudhaya) not Thai history (started from Yonok in the North,Si Kotabun in North-East,Tam Pralingh in the South,Si Mahosod in the East and Tavarawadi in the central).I don't know if Thai can accept that Lao is also Thai-Tai.I don't know how Thais feel if know Lao history says "Ayudhaya was set up by a son of an ancient king of Lao".

If Sayasetha is The Great ,Bhothisa (his father) is the Greatest.Fah-Ngum,Khoon Juang were the great in Fabel while Pa Bhothisa was a strongest ever in Xiengthong Empire real history.

King Naresuan was the true Great while his father was not.

-- Edited by ninjalaos on Wednesday 17th of June 2009 07:21:49 PM

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 In 1572, a conspiracy between a Lord Phya Nakhon and the former abbot of Wat Maximavat, who held personal grudges against Setthathirath, led to the king's murder in the southern frontier of the country. He was 38 years of age.


LaoStudent wrote:

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Anyone know where and how he died?

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In 1538, King Ketklao, son of Kaew, was overthrown by his own son Thau Sai Kam. However, Ketklao was restored in 1543 but suffered mental illness and was executed in 1545. Ketklao’s daughter, Chiraprapa, then succeeded her father as the queen regnant. As Lanna was plundered by the dynastic struggles, both Ayutthaya and the Burmese saw this as an opportunity to overwhelm Lanna. Chairacha of Ayutthaya invaded Lanna in 1545 but was negotiated by Chiraprapa. Chairacha returned next year sacking Lampang and Lamphun and threatened Chaingmai itself. So, Chiraprapa was forced to put her kingdom under Ayutthayan tributary.

Facing pressures from the invaders, Chiraprapa decided to abdicate in and 1546 and the nobility gave the throne to her brother-in-law Prince Chaiyasettha of Lan Xang. Chaiyasettha moved to Lanna and thus Lanna was ruled by a Laotian king. In 1547, Prince Chaiyasettha returned to Lan Xang to claim the throne and ascended as Setthathirat. Setthathira


ninjalaos wrote:

Maha Silawong was a greatest man in Lao-Thai history.He translated a greatest and oldest master piece Novel called "Khun Jueng" who was greater than The King Of Lanxang-Lanna ,cuz he was the king of Xieng Rung,Xiengtung(Kentung),Yonok(Lanna), Lao, Vietnam and some of Kmer.

Maha Sila still had a great daughter like him.Why we forget this great family? They can better tell the fact I have told.

Xiengmai history says Saya Setha was invited to be the King.But Lanxang hisotry and Lanna (except Xiengmai)say that Phothisarath trouped 30,000 soldiers to forced Xiengmai and mentioned that his wife was a princess of Xiengmai.That days Lampang, Phrae, Lamphun, Nan and Phayao wanted The dynasty of Tilokkarath The Great to be the next King but Xiengmai didn't want.So the troups from almost cities (except Xiengmai) and Phra Phothesarath of Xiengthong came to declare for the throne.  Now adays Laos prefer to accept Xieangmai history for it is good for relationship.

Please know that Yonok of Khun Jueng was not Lanna of Xiengmai.Xiengmai was a colony of Burmese for more than 300 years from Sayasetha brought the Emeral Budha to Laos. All dynasties of Xiengmai were dissappear for more than 300 years till a Hero from Lampang and Siam came to abolish Xiengmai in 1777.

I don't know if Xiengmai acts like a knowledge monopoly institute or not.Why Lanna history from Xiengmai is too much ethnocentricism than a no-dynastry-for-300-year should be?And very very different from almost of every provinces surrounded Xiengmai. 

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