Who Care??Never like (Farang kee nok anyway)

The French first lady is soooo beautiful!

i dont think any body but you think about it , going there in the name of former colonial country? even now very few of young people interested in french.
only Buguette and Napping still remain in Laos.

I think, it shows that we are not important to them. Just like in business, if u r not an important client or supplier, you will be treated badly. Anyway, make fr with rich country like france is better than the poor one, like the very best fr of our country.

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We used to be their colonial, but they've never remembered us.


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Pai Kaab Tiin Manh Ti' Lah. We are the one should forget them oput of our head. You think being Franch colonial is cool? Have you ever think that what make Franch being rich country like today? It's becoz Franch took everything from colonial countries around the world include from Lao as well. They killed, robbed and steal valueble things out to his country.

Your mouth you said you hate Thailand cos we were their colonial but how come with french you said you love him. It's quite funny!

I believed in the law of Karma. Oneday French will deserve toget back in what their did sin to their colonial countries.

If you are so proud to be Franch you better move your ass out of Lao. Lao is the land of our Lao heroic persons who fight for to be the independence country today..how many of their life has gone with the high tech gun fires from them...get in your head

Yeah ! my good friends ! France was a grea and strongt country and tireless colonial hunter the frenchmen came here in laos with their marocco soldiers who didn't know the word "mercy" they were huge . strong and black like chacoal, who weren't scared of them,
the most brave of our soldiers were killed mercilessly by those black soldiers, the others surrendered to save their lives and families...my grandma told me other atrocities the frenchmen treated lao people...
and now who care whether they invite us or not...Laos is a francophony country but who care about speaking or not to speaking this language, even french people have to learn english for their communication abroad... and for myself, I know french better fhan english but I prefer to use english ... and France is an European country ...nothing more....

Pai Kaab Tiin Manh Ti' Lah. We are the one should forget them oput of our head. You think being Franch colonial is cool? Have you ever think that what make Franch being rich country like today? It's becoz Franch took everything from colonial countries around the world include from Lao as well. They killed, robbed and steal valueble things out to his country.

Your mouth you said you hate Thailand cos we were their colonial but how come with french you said you love him. It's quite funny!

I believed in the law of Karma. Oneday French will deserve toget back in what their did sin to their colonial countries.

If you are so proud to be Franch you better move your ass out of Lao. Lao is the land of our Lao heroic persons who fight for to be the independence country today..how many of their life has gone with the high tech gun fires from them...get in your head
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 i really dont understand what make ur brain works like that. Did you see, Indian's wife PM in the picutre? did it also means that Indai is happy to be french colonial by attending that ceremony? India are happy to joint the ceremony becuase it will strengthen its economy  and technology tie with France, one of the world's supper power.

By the way, when our leaders visites the Viet often, vietnational day or communist party day, what do u say about that? aren't we the viet slaves by allowing them to take our resources every day? ahhaahha i think u need to see the doctor, because you can't understand the simple thing.

Pai Kaab Tiin Manh Ti' Lah. We are the one should forget them oput of our head. You think being Franch colonial is cool? Have you ever think that what make Franch being rich country like today? It's becoz Franch took everything from colonial countries around the world include from Lao as well. They killed, robbed and steal valueble things out to his country.

Your mouth you said you hate Thailand cos we were their colonial but how come with french you said you love him. It's quite funny!

I believed in the law of Karma. Oneday French will deserve toget back in what their did sin to their colonial countries.

If you are so proud to be Franch you better move your ass out of Lao. Lao is the land of our Lao heroic persons who fight for to be the independence country today..how many of their life has gone with the high tech gun fires from them...get in your head
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 i really dont understand what make ur brain works like that. Did you see, Indian's wife PM in the picutre? did it also means that Indai is happy to be french colonial by attending that ceremony? India are happy to joint the ceremony becuase it will strengthen its economy  and technology tie with France, one of the world's supper power.

By the way, when our leaders visites the Viet often, vietnational day or communist party day, what do u say about that? aren't we the viet slaves by allowing them to take our resources every day? ahhaahha i think u need to see the doctor, because you can't understand the simple thing.
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yes i strongly aggree with you my friend. I think that guy really need to see doctors as soon as possible and as frequently as possible

i though the same when i saw the national day show on french TV : they invited Cambodia, why not Laos? I have nothing against Cambodia, but i would have prefer if France had invited Lao Official, of course.


To the one talking about the old time of colonial, etc.... we had some discutions about this some time ago on this topic.... seams some people should review their history books:

When French arrived in Laos and made Laos a colony, at the begining, it was a great help for Laos that was facing many problems at this time (siamese and chinese invasions, those peoples behaving far far worse than french) . Don't forget that Laos could become a french colony thx to/because king of Luang prabang, asked french protection! France didn't take laos by force, but just by respect and diplomacy!

I'm happy to see that Now, laos is free and independant, no longer french, especialy considering that french administration was clearly not so good once the situation could be stabilized and safe for lao people.... but those 50 years of commons life between our two countries should be now the source of a strong and friendly link between our Two countries, not oposite

France remains one of the main western investors in Laos. France is also one of the countries that help the most Laos PDR (through NGO, diplomacy, cooperation...). Lao community in France is one of the biggest in the world. So there is really no reason to still have anger or wrong feeling between french and lao.

And don't forget also that oposite vietnam, the independance of Laos didn't need any war or terrible historical events. The war in Laos came after french gave back independancy to Laos (to simplify, because in fact it's a little bit more complex).


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i though the same when i saw the national day show on french TV : they invited Cambodia, why not Laos? I have nothing against Cambodia, but i would have prefer if France had invited Lao Official, of course.


To the one talking about the old time of colonial, etc.... we had some discutions about this some time ago on this topic.... seams some people should review their history books:

When French arrived in Laos and made Laos a colony, at the begining, it was a great help for Laos that was facing many problems at this time (siamese and chinese invasions, those peoples behaving far far worse than french) . Don't forget that Laos could become a french colony thx to/because king of Luang prabang, asked french protection! France didn't take laos by force, but just by respect and diplomacy!

I'm happy to see that Now, laos is free and independant, no longer french, especialy considering that french administration was clearly not so good once the situation could be stabilized and safe for lao people.... but those 50 years of commons life between our two countries should be now the source of a strong and friendly link between our Two countries, not oposite

France remains one of the main western investors in Laos. France is also one of the countries that help the most Laos PDR (through NGO, diplomacy, cooperation...). Lao community in France is one of the biggest in the world. So there is really no reason to still have anger or wrong feeling between french and lao.

And don't forget also that oposite vietnam, the independance of Laos didn't need any war or terrible historical events. The war in Laos came after french gave back independancy to Laos (to simplify, because in fact it's a little bit more complex).


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I agree that you should kiss French's ass or at least not hate them too much they saved you ass after all for not being Thai (because that would be the worst thing that had happend to you right? being Thai). but I don't agree with some of your infomation though.

"siamese and chinese invasions, those peoples behaving far far worse than french"

I doubt about that though. because if you read Malaysia history you will be surprised that some of Malay states prefer to be under Siam over English. Because they have seen what English have done to some other Malay states before.

"king of Luang prabang, asked french protection"

I doubt about that too as far as I know only king of cambodia did ask for french protection (not too surprised though cambodia always 2 faces through out history anyway). King of Luang prabang didn't. France forced Thai to gave them half of laos. King of Luang prabang even prefer Thai over France.

If only France can have all of LanXang you would know how really French will behave toward you. Until then they will act like a good guy who come on the white horse to save you.

 

That's Ok with me, Brother Zarkozy, we don't him anyway. Nicholas Zarkozy is extremly right wing politician in France. and another one is Le-peng, anybody here remember a few year ago When French-African descendants and a French-Arabs protested in Paris?  Because of him (Zarkozy said some kindda **** about the Refugee's kids ''called them Ghetto ''. He set them up to burned almost the whole Paris..

paris_vientiane wrote:

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definitly, i think you should read some history books... I certify you kking of luangprabangs asked french protection. Of course, we can easily imagine he would have prefered being able to defend himself toward siamese and chinese.... but he couldn't and he was very happy to find some french on his way.... The end of the story is less fun, because after a few decades, french show they were clearly not very good administrator for laos.... so, after WWII, when France was soo weak, it was time for Laos to retreive it's independance and i think it's ok like this!... what happened after in Laos this is sad, very sad, but France is only very slightly involved (not like in Vietnam where seems French did many mistakes.. and americans more again).

PS : i'm french, not lao, and i don't ask anyone to kiss my ass... just respect togather, especily between people whose history have something in common.... something maybe not so good, but not too bad too... just like friends that not always agree about everything but like and respect togather, and appreciate their differences.


-- Edited by paris_vientiane on Monday 20th of July 2009 02:41:46 PM

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"Luang Prabang kingdom chose to accept French protection"

 

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/laos/northern-laos/luang-prabang/history

 

means French offered Luang Prabang a protection(because French can't just took away Laos from Siam without reason so French tried in every means possible), Luang Prabang didn't ask for.

no you don't ask anyone to kiss your ass... just enjoying it.

like when Lao wants to preserve French culture like French language, French just loves it so much so that French reward Lao in someways.

i don't think so.... if french could have "taken" the whole Laos, they would have done it.... but it was not so simple.... they had anyway to negotiate with siamese, and leave them a big part of Laos.

If french didn't do what they did, Laos would certainly for sur have become just part of Thailand, and we can easily imagine that it would still be part of Thailand Laos nowadays, as the "lost part"....but no one can know for sure what would have been the fate of Laos in the hands of siamese.... we just know what did hapen in the hands of french ;)...

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to "anonymous", you play with words.... i wrote exactly what you mean before "Of course, we can easily imagine he would have prefered being able to defend himself toward siamese and chinese.". King of LuangPragang had to make a difficult choise... and he choose the less bad solution, even if it was not the dream he had for his country.

this topic is nothing related to Laos, who cares if France doesn't invite Lao president and wife, so our Laotian brothers just don't fight each other  because of this, we should discus thing that more useful to our country, Laos .

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definitly, i think you should read some history books... I certify you kking of luangprabangs asked french protection. Of course, we can easily imagine he would have prefered being able to defend himself toward siamese and chinese.... but he couldn't and he was very happy to find some french on his way.... The end of the story is less fun, because after a few decades, french show they were clearly not very good administrator for laos.... so, after WWII, when France was soo weak, it was time for Laos to retreive it's independance and i think it's ok like this!... what happened after in Laos this is sad, very sad, but France is only very slightly involved (not like in Vietnam where seems French did many mistakes.. and americans more again).

PS : i'm french, not lao, and i don't ask anyone to kiss my ass... just respect togather, especily between people whose history have something in common.... something maybe not so good, but not too bad too... just like friends that not always agree about everything but like and respect togather, and appreciate their differences.


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I think you should be the one who go back to read the history books again. Who said French come with peaceful? haha..so funny what s tupid s hit you are. Miss Paris Vientiane (trying to act like Paris Hilton hahaha...e-lao)

Open your head... Everybody in Lao know that Lao was under Siamese Colonial and when French come to Asia to hunt for their colonial country. French ask Siam to give them Lao and Cambodia fall to French. If not they will high tech cannons to destroy Siam and they got fighting to each other near Koh Chang and at the end Siamese King at that time have to give Lao and Cambodia to French and at that time Lao also have fighting with french and angry of Siam that let Lao being under french colonial. French is not the hero to save Lao

I think you become French with full of soul, body and heart and forget that your black background was khon Lao. 

seems some of you enjoy to simplify history and are unable to have the deeper view than black/white manichean point of view....

For the ones who didn't understand.. i'm not lao-french, i'm just french.... my lao part is just my wife (100% real lao, not lao american or lao french ...).
When i discovered laos, fall in love with this country, i didn't ever know it was a former french colony. When i discovered that, i feel like "ashamed" because clearly everything is not good in this part of history of my country (like any other country in the world), "generaly speaking". But then, i bought and read many books about laos and lao-french history, and just discovered that things are not so simple.... not just black or white but complex, and that there is no serious any serious reason to be particulary "ashamed" of what my country did in Laos (things seems to be clearly different with vietnam....). The story of each colony is different, Some are real drama, but the one of "french laos" is not so sad.

Of course french did try to get laos for France benefit, not just went there to give help and so on. But the reality is also that at begining, french behave with people living in Laos much much better than lao'neighours who were also trying to conquier this territory (respect people, culture...)... that's why at this time, seems to me that what happen was not a so bad solution for laos.... especialy when we can see that 50 years after that, Laos could became independant again. A few decades after the begining of this story, French show they were clearly not good administrators for Laos (many mistake like ask vietnamese to control administrations and not lao people...), so this si sad, but this is also one of the reason why when it was time, Laos could easily retreive independance (oposite vietnam...)... so the result is not so bad

Anyway, whatever is each one of us points of view about this part of history, this is not a reason to reject any opportunity of cooperation between countries.... especialy countries that have so much in common.
even if you consider that the time were lao was french gave more bad things than good ones, you cannot just clear the past. It would be stupid to try to forget everything and send back laos in the time/situation it has before french arrived. The best thing the 2 countries can do now is capitalise over what french built/did good in Laos, and try to repair what was bad (but the main bad point is repaired yet: Laos is independant).
Do you think Europe could be what it is, able to build Airbus plane, avoid wars between all the main european countries,etc.... if french and german still lived in the past, thinking of what german did to french and many other countries during WWII? No, of course. hate call hate, anger call anger, war call war. If they want to avoid those drama, countries have just to cooperate as much as they can togather , especialy countries that are linked by geography (france/germany), culture or history (like France/Laos)
That's why i'm happy to see my country invite cambodian prime minister for our national day (even if i hate french president), and that's why i would have prefered to see Laos in this situation, because my personal feeling for Laos si much stronger than for Cambodia (just a question of personal history)

hehe... back to the original subject of this topic.

Seems that guys here still not receptive.. still holding on to the past. this is already the 21st century, time flies so fast nowadays... dont waste your precious time whinning over what had already happened. Focus on moving forward.. accept and forgive ( I didnt say forget). The most important is that now Lao is (almost) free country and banking on the present outpouring of support work hard on making a diifference. Support will not come forever, use it properly while it last. Utilize lessons from the past so that future generation will no longer experience your sufferings, not cling to it and sulk. Its time for a change Lao and only YOU can make that change.

yep it is time to move on. but remember the history and forgive but never forget.

Most of French politicians are dangerous for their own countries...

From Vientiane, Laos. wrote:

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To Samakhom Lao Manager, please delete this topic as soon as posible. It is not good for our Lao-French relations.

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Typical Lao of Laos PDR attitude. If something you don't like kill it, it doesn't matter about others opinion whether it be good or bad.

They don't know who we are anymore.   But don't feel bad,   Vietnamese was not invited either.

I don't give a damn I have Chinese and American live in my country.

Many people replied it, it doesn't mean you must reply this topic, this topic is nothing interesting.