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I JUST BLAME ONLY USA, WHAT ABOUT YOU?



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I blame every one, every party, every Government who involved in the war. Just American themself these bombs would nerver ever droped on our country.

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Well, yes!! the U.S. did bombed the hell out of Laos.  I am sad that our people still suffering from all those unexploded bombs after 30+ years. 

You can't just totally blame U.S., the right wing (Royal Lao Army) are at fault as well.  They sold their country to the U.S. by allowing the U.S. runs their mission out from Laos.  During that time, Laos were suppose to be neutral.  Because the Ho Chi Minh trail runs through Laos, therefore the U.S. ending bombed the hell out of Laos.

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SeeHarHed wrote:

Well, yes!! the U.S. did bombed the hell out of Laos.  I am sad that our people still suffering from all those unexploded bombs after 30+ years. 

You can't just totally blame U.S., the right wing (Royal Lao Army) are at fault as well.  They sold their country to the U.S. by allowing the U.S. runs their mission out from Laos.  During that time, Laos were suppose to be neutral.  Because the Ho Chi Minh trail runs through Laos, therefore the U.S. ending bombed the hell out of Laos.



YES!! TOTALLY AGREE WITH BROTHER''SEEHARHED." ANYBODY REMEMBER "DEFEND SECRETARY Mc NAMARA?'' HE DIED LAST WEEK, BUT BEFORE HE DIED HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT VIETNAM WAR AND ADMITED THAT WE SCREW-UP BIG TIME IN VIETNAM..I STILL HAVE THAT BOOK..


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I   want  to  talk  to  Lao  government   have   museum   of  bombing,  weapon.....about  Laowar  begin  ww 2 ,  vietnam  war  for  education..





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We need to assemble some kind of nonprofit organization at home and abroad, ask US embassy in Laos and international community for help to clear up this bombs and land mines...I'll pitch in few dollars, blame games won't help our people who suffer the most.



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We need to assemble some kind of nonprofit organization at home and abroad, ask US embassy in Laos and international community for help to clear up this bombs and land mines...I'll pitch in few dollars, blame games won't help our people who suffer the most.



The U.S. been helping, but probably not enough.  UXO Lao been working hard to clear all those bombs, but it is almost impossible mission.

If you like to learn more, here are few links that might shred some answers..

http://laos.usembassy.gov/econ_feb20_2009.html

http://www.uxolao.org/uxo%20problem.html

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We need to assemble some kind of nonprofit organization at home and abroad, ask US embassy in Laos and international community for help to clear up this bombs and land mines...I'll pitch in few dollars, blame games won't help our people who suffer the most.



There is a group that supports Lao in its efforts to remove UXO, especially in severely affected areas like Xiengkhouang. They are open for donation and they have this small museum that aims to educate people about the dangers of mines and UXO and how they affected the lives of the people who live in those areas. Im not sure about in other places like Savannakhet if thre is also a museum because I have only visited the former. They are open for donation and also supports rehabilitation of those who lost their limbs from bombs.

they have this promo like if you donate at least 10 USD you will get a free shirt or other stuff of your choice with the MAG logo. You can visit their site to learn more. See below.

Or you may also check the UN security office in VNT for more info on how to help.

MAG Lao Female Team Leader makes her mark
03 Jun 2008 11:47:00 GMT
Tom Morgan, Communications Officer, MAG Lao
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Vilaphanh holding her course certificate. A third of MAG Lao's staff is female.
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Vilaphanh holding her course certificate. A third of MAG Lao's staff is female.
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A MAG Lao PDR staff member has become only the second woman in the country to pass a Team Leader training course run by UXO Lao, the national clearance agency.

 

Vilaphanh Soukvilay, of MAG's All-Female Team in Khammouane province, has become one of the most highly qualified women in the country's UXO (unexploded ordnance) sector. She passed the course with a score of 97%.

 

Vilaphanh and seven other members of MAG staff completed the two-month training last week. Eleven UXO Lao staff also passed the course.

 

Graduates of this course are authorised to conduct substantial demolitions of UXO without supervision.

 

"Now I have completed the course, it will be quicker and easier for me to work than before," said Vilaphanh. "In the past, when I didn't recognise an item of UXO I would have to wait for my supervisor. This sometimes meant a delay of two or three days before an item could be demolished."

 

Women should be given the opportunity to be involved in UXO clearance, said Lisa Ognjanovic, MAG Lao's Community Liaison Manager.

 

A recent gender study conducted by MAG Lao PDR found that both men and women want to contribute to the development of their country. It also found that women do not see any barriers to their involvement in the sector.

 

"Employing women raises their status because they often become the primary income earner in their family," said Lisa. "This gives them decision making power in their families. When you're talking about empowerment of women, that's a very positive thing."

 

Vilaphanh recently returned to work after giving birth to her first child. One third of MAG Lao's staff is female. All female employees are provided with paid maternity leave and support to return to work.

 

The gender study was jointly funded by the US Department of State, Good Gifts and AMR (Actiefonds Mijnen Ruimen).

 

For more information on MAG's work in Lao PDR and worldwide, please visit www.maginternational.org.


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Needs Assessment in Lao PDR

by Jo Durham [ Mines Advisory Group ]

This article describes the needs-assessment process and findings for mine-risk education in Lao PDR. Issues that arise are identifying those at risk, why they are at risk, and what can be done about it.

Mine-risk education is an integral component of humanitarian mine action and, as with other HMA components, should be a planned intervention. A needs assessment—the process of systematically collecting and analysing information in order to identify who is at risk, why, and what can be done about it—is an essential precursor to programme planning and implementation. A good needs analysis can help programme managers develop appropriate, targeted and effective interventions that address the needs of the target populations. It is a crucial step in framing an appropriate response to risk reduction.

Recognising the importance of a needs assessment in preparation for its new five-year strategy for the Lao People's Democratic Republic and based on an earlier Geneva International Centre for Humanitarian Demining evaluation, UNICEF commissioned Mines Advisory Group to undertake an MRE needs assessment in five provinces in Lao PDR.

The assessment identified a number of subgroups that are at risk and helped bring into focus the myriad of contributing factors that influence behaviour. It highlighted the differences in the ways the mine-action "experts" and "laypeople" analyse risk, make decisions, and structure and solve problems in order to determine an appropriate response. The findings suggest that in a country such as Lao PDR, where communities have lived with unexploded ordnance infestation for over 25 years, more traditional mine-risk education may not be what is required. What may be needed alongside traditional message-based interventions is a more holistic and pragmatic risk-minimisation approach, which may also require a collective paradigm shift in the way different stakeholders view UXO risk. Such methodology would help bridge the current gap between experts' and laypeople's opinions and result in more effective MRE. Alongside this risk-minimisation approach, a more complete, integrated style of UXO action and development will help address some of the underlying vulnerabilities of at-risk populations. The assessment also pointed to possible new directions for reaching women and children including integrating MRE into a broader life-skills approach and parenting guides.

Background to the Needs Assessment

Lao PDR has the distinction of being, per capita, the most heavily bombed nation in the world.1 As a result of intense ground battles and extensive bombing during the Indochina War,2 especially during the years 1964–73, there is widespread contamination of UXO, which continues to act as a barrier to socioeconomic development and causes death and injury to adults and children. These injuries can result in long-term medical and psychological after effects as well as a huge financial burden to affected individuals, families, their communities and health services.

The government of Lao PDR, with assistance from the United Nations Development Programme and UNICEF, established the Lao PDR Trust Fund for UXO in 1995 to finance a national programme of clearance and education. A national survey on the socioeconomic impact of UXO was conducted3 and reported UXO contamination in 25 percent of all Laotian villages. The United Nations Development Assistance Framework for Lao PDR,4 as well as other government and donor documents, identifies UXO and the threat it continues to pose to both livelihood security and personal safety as cross-cutting issues in tackling poverty.

As with most other mine-action programmes, the Lao MRE programme aims to promote safety in UXO-contaminated communities and has been primarily underpinned by psychological theories of behaviour change, such as the Health Belief Model.5 More specifically, UNICEF has supported MRE for children in several at-risk communities in 12 of the most heavily contaminated provinces. In preparation for its next five-year strategy, UNICEF commissioned MAG to undertake a risk assessment to ascertain who is currently at risk and why, as well as what can be done to mitigate the risk.

FINDINGS: The assessment found overall a high level of UXO awareness and understanding among both adults and children. For example, 82 percent of the adult respondents indicated that no UXO is safe and provided a range of correct responses regarding common events that cause UXO to detonate—of the children surveyed, 99.6 percent considered UXO to be dangerous, with most of them reporting being afraid of UXO.
Despite these known risks however, many people, including women and children, reported continuing to interact with live or potentially live ordnance on an almost daily basis. Respondents rationally defended this apparent inconsistency, even though their view was often at odds with "expert" views.9

The assessment also found the general categories often used to characterize at-risk populations—that is, the uninformed, the unaware, the reckless and the intentional—were less relevant to the context of Lao PDR. Instead, the study distinguished between intentional exposure (i.e., voluntary) to live ordnance—where actors aware of the risk purposefully expose themselves to live ordnance—and unintentional exposure (involuntary). Voluntary exposure may include for example, moving an item of UXO to another location or tampering with ordnance for economic gain. Voluntary exposure included groups identified as high risk, for example: Adult scrap-metal collectors , Adults who move UXO out of farming land , Scrap-metal dealers , Adults who deliberately dismantle UXO , Children who collect scrap metal , Children who play or tamper with UXO , Adults and children who work on agricultural land , Out-of-school youth and young children

Unintentional exposure. Unintentional exposure to UXO injury is when a person's exposure to live ordnance is unplanned and may include exposure due to inattention or lack of knowledge. While some of the prevention activities may be the same, intentionality is an important variable and particularly relevant in Lao PDR where UXO injury due to intentional exposure to live ordnance (for example through the deliberate tampering of ordnance for the scrap-metal trade) is known to be increasing.10

Involuntary exposure, such as exposure to sub-surface UXO while farming, is generally feared due to the lack of control people have over the situation. People have reported voluntarily exposing themselves to UXO—for example, removing items from farming land—in order to avoid possible unintentional exposure later. Contributing factors to involuntary exposure include the inability of clearance agencies to respond to the needs of farmers and a lack of alternative agricultural land. The following quote expresses a view shared by many and helps to illustrate the farmers' plight as well as highlighting the higher level of fear that surrounds involuntary exposure: "No clearance team comes and helps us, so even though it is not safe to move, when we find items of UXO this farming season, we need to move them, otherwise the following year when we farm again we don't know where they are."

Intentional exposure. The assessment identified a number of perceptual, cognitive, pragmatic and economic market factors that informed respondents' rational defence of voluntary risk-taking behaviour. Respondents reported weighing benefits and costs of UXO risk activities compared with other household risks. A key household risk, for example, is basic food insecurity, which is often a motivating force in the decision to engage with, or at least potentially engage with, UXO.

In trying to meet basic needs such as food security, individuals and households also consider the costs and benefits of alternative income-generating options, sometimes preferring activities that may expose them to UXO, such as scrap-metal collection. Where other options had more perceived advantages than scrap-metal collection, however, people reportedly abandoned scrap-metal collection for alternative sources of income. Thus, while contributing factors of voluntary exposure to UXO were often rooted in poverty, it was rarely perceived by communities or individuals as the only option. More commonly, intentional UXO risk-taking was found to be based on a rational decision-making process involving weighing the potential costs and benefits of a range of available options.

The most common ways in which people voluntarily expose themselves to UXO risk is through collecting or dealing in scrap metal, moving UXO from farmland and dismantling UXO. The following quote from one of the female respondents illustrates how contamination levels combined with the need to uphold basic food security and an insufficient UXO clearance response contribute to people deciding to voluntarily take risk: "I found more than 10 BLUs7 in my new farming land. Each time I moved them into one place and kept farming as my family land is very small so I need to keep farming in that area."

Predisposing factors that contribute to high-risk behaviour include level of contamination of farming land, belief that some UXO are relatively safe to move, perceptions of safe behaviours and the desire to investigate metal-detector signals. Enabling factors include ease of picking up and moving UXO items, availability of metal detectors and inability of clearance agencies to respond in a timely manner to reports of UXO on farming land, UXO removal being sometimes perceived as the removal of a legitimate cash crop, and a certain level of social and parental acceptance of UXO risk-taking behaviour, even where a UXO incident may have economic and social consequences for families and communities. Reinforcing factors include food-security problems, which motivate people to engage in the collection of scrap metal, lack of alternative income-generating activities, price of scrap metal and lack of access to alternative farming land that is not contaminated with UXO.

A respondent stated, "I moved three bombies from the bottom of a bomb crater. When I was digging, I hit one of the bombies so I slowly picked it up and moved it out from the bomb crater to a nearby area. I was afraid when moving the bombie, but I needed the money. In one bomb crater I could get 40 kilograms (88 pounds) of scrap metal." Currently, scrap metal is approximately 1,700 kip per kilo (approximately US$0.08/lb.11). Nearly all UXO contamination is in rural Lao PDR where most people—about 80 percent of the population—are subsistence rice farmers and have limited options for generating a cash income if they stay within their communities and home base.

Almost all respondents who reported voluntary exposure to potentially live ordnance were able to provide examples of the risk-reduction strategies they took. These indigenous risk-reduction strategies are often at odds, however, with expert views of safe handling of UXO. Indeed, some respondents also recognised that their strategies might still result in injury and tried to learn more by watching village experts or surreptitiously observing UXO clearance teams to learn from the way they handle UXO. Scrap-metal collectors, including men, women and children, using locally procured metal detectors also had a number of risk-reduction strategies including the one described in the following statements:

  • "I feel safer when digging, more confident that it isn't a UXO when I hear the small beeps."
  • "The system of the detector is that if we find a small piece of scrap, we get a different sound; if we find a large piece of metal, we get a loud sound."

While a number of respondents were able to describe strategies they use for distinguishing between safe and unsafe ordnance, respondents identified accurate recognition skills as an area in which they felt they needed more knowledge, according to one scrap-metal dealer: "Without knowing it, I have bought many things from villagers—BLUs12 with explosives, hand grenades with no pins, bullets, mortar shells with gunpowder inside."

The survey also identified a number of contradictions. For example, scrap-metal collection on the one hand is perceived as being potentially risky but on the other hand is not necessarily associated with accidents. This may be due to a cognitive coping strategy whereby the risk is explained away as being exaggerated or a belief that the person has the necessary skills to remain in control.



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Conclusion: The assessment found UXO risk-takers, including women and children, are generally aware of the risk and engage in some form of risk-assessment process, which they use to make rational and deliberate decisions regarding acceptable risk. However, from other stakeholders' perspectives such as humanitarian mine-action experts, regulatory bodies, educators and decision makers, there are different views on acceptability and rationality of local risk-assessment processes. This conflict is largely about a divergent definition of risk, differences in how problems are structured and solved, differences in judgments about the probability of an accident, and different kinds of knowledge.

While awareness is an important prerequisite to change and ongoing awareness campaigns may be essential for children, the assessment did not identify it as a major determinant of risk behaviour. Focussing on traditional message-based approaches to MRE is likely to result in developing an intervention that does not address the major underlying determinants of behaviour. Traditional messages on expert-perceived positive behaviours common in MRE programmes may include "Don't touch UXO" and "If you see UXO, report it to a mine-action agency." However, this approach could result in MRE planners falling into the common pitfall of developing an intervention that does not address the major determinants of high-risk behaviour.

To be effective, the MRE programme will have to take into account the determinants of behaviour identified in the assessment. Such an approach may include life skills and communication training. It should also take into account the information and skill-development needs of at-risk communities as identified by respondents in this assessment. In this sense, it represents a paradigm shift from current "expert" HMA practise and message-based MRE. With its emphasis on standards, safety, technical expertise, and zero- or minimal risk, implementing such an approach, which actively engages high-risk populations and builds on current coping strategies and knowledge, is likely to be challenging. Such an approach will require a change from zero-risk to risk minimisation and recognition of the often valid risk-assessment processes and risk-reduction strategies indigenous communities employ. It may also involve a more meaningful and useful transfer of knowledge from experts to laypeople. As M. Worden13 noted, speaking in the field of health promotion, even when it is known how to undertake successful prevention activities and the people are aware of the preventative tools, such interventions are often unpopular with policy makers, lobbying groups, the public and even practitioners themselves. Recent examples of risk-minimisation approaches in HIV prevention like safe needle exchange and safe injecting practices may provide some insight into effective strategies in taking a pragmatic approach to UXO risk reduction.

As the assessment has shown, the complex milieu in which behavioural decisions are made calls for a shift to a risk-minimisation approach. A range of integrated interventions that aim to address the underlying vulnerabilities of UXO-affected communities is also needed. From this perspective, UXO contamination in Lao PDR requires a collaborative, multi-sectoral and multi-level response that includes a range of legislative and regulatory strategies, improved UXO clearance methodology and targeting of resources, skills training, MRE and an integrated approach to UXO action that enables the implementation of broader poverty-alleviation and sustainable-livelihood strategies. Such an approach will save lives, reduce injuries and promote economic growth and development, which in turn will contribute to addressing underlying vulnerabilities and reduce UXO risk. Bullet



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Sooooo Sad to watch, and Sooooo Sad to know

Just imagine how Lao people could survive through that War (During Vietnam War), and how it destroyed our country, too many Bombs to be removed away. 


I understand every single Lao has bad history by this War, neither who won or lost combat in this war.

Now it’s not time to blame, it is time for We Lao people to unite and help each other to clear this mess,

Remember! we can’t change the history, but we can choose where we want to be.  




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Sooooo Sad to watch, and Sooooo Sad to know

Just imagine how Lao people could survive through that War (During Vietnam War), and how it destroyed our country, too many Bombs to be removed away. 


I understand every single Lao has bad history by this War, neither who won or lost combat in this war.

Now it’s not time to blame, it is time for We Lao people to unite and help each other to clear this mess,

Remember! we can’t change the history, but we can choose where we want to be.  




i do agree with what you said, and i m doing too.

 



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I agree with you too. 

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I agreed with what you've said , I think that Lao government have every right to ask those that were responsible for the deadliest mass that was left in our back yard  34 yrs ago to come back and help clean up our back yard don't you think so ?

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Yes the bombs was drop by the United States. But if the North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao respected Laos neutrality. Would the bombs had been drop in the first place? If there's gonna be any finger pointing then the communist Lao are just as guilty.bleh

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What’s going on with you?
You still find someone to blame. Do you?

I pray for you and may lard Buddha guides you to peace and happiness.

Ps:How are you definitely sure? there was no bomb would be dropped at all in Laos.
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“if the North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao respected Laos neutrality. Would the bombs had been drop in the first place?”





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The truth about all problems about Indochina Wars starting with the colonists french took Indochina not peacefully but with their guns. In these documents ' Cambodia to Kampuchia about 3 hours, and some other documents like CIA in Indochina....all in you tube, and remember this after The World War 2 ended USA supported France to reclaim Indochina, continuing enslaving the 3 countries....the truth is that in these documents the american themselve stated that they set up Puppet Regimes in South Vietnam quote ' the american said that when they brought the puppet Ngo Dinh Diem back to South Vietnam, he was not popular among the south vietnamese people....these words were from american mouth themselve...and also William Corby told us how he ruled Laos...so Laos never been Neutral or Independent but under french colonists and american thumb...Sihanou of Cambodia and Souphanouvong saw these evil things from the french and american that's why they united with Ho Chi Minh and kicked them out from INDOCHINA.

Let have a look before 1975 I lived in Pakse and I saw at dust americans who worked at USAID ( in fact was a CIA head quarter in the South of Laos at that time admitted by William Corby former american CIA in Laos) they just took their helicopters and flew to Thailand....everybody knew that, so how could americans had these sort of power in Laos, because Laos never had independent that's why they could do what ever they wanted. But now you see who ever come to Lao they must follow Rules and Regulations....not just come and go as they like as it used to be. Why Sihanou and Souphanouvong allowed Ho Chi Minh trail went throught Lao and Cambodia because they saw american as the Common Ennemy...In Cambodia and Kampuchia Sihanou even stated that at the end people of INDOCHINA will win the war....that's why he stood by Ho Chi Minh...these were Sihanou words. The question here is WHY AMERICAN SUPPORTED FRANCE TO RECLAIM INDOCHINA which continuing to ENSLAVE INDOCHINA PEOPLE? Perhaps at the end JUSTICE PREVAILED. ' BAB BOR FAE BOON' All these documents are in you tube.

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The truth about all problems about Indochina Wars starting with the colonists french took Indochina not peacefully but with their guns. In these documents ' Cambodia to Kampuchia about 3 hours, and some other documents like CIA in Indochina....all in you tube, and remember this after The World War 2 ended USA supported France to reclaim Indochina, continuing enslaving the 3 countries....the truth is that in these documents the american themselve stated that they set up Puppet Regimes in South Vietnam quote ' the american said that when they brought the puppet Ngo Dinh Diem back to South Vietnam, he was not popular among the south vietnamese people....these words were from american mouth themselve...and also William Corby told us how he ruled Laos...so Laos never been Neutral or Independent but under french colonists and american thumb...Sihanou of Cambodia and Souphanouvong saw these evil things from the french and american that's why they united with Ho Chi Minh and kicked them out from INDOCHINA.

Let have a look before 1975 I lived in Pakse and I saw at dust americans who worked at USAID ( in fact was a CIA head quarter in the South of Laos at that time admitted by William Corby former american CIA in Laos) they just took their helicopters and flew to Thailand....everybody knew that, so how could americans had these sort of power in Laos, because Laos never had independent that's why they could do what ever they wanted. But now you see who ever come to Lao they must follow Rules and Regulations....not just come and go as they like as it used to be. Why Sihanou and Souphanouvong allowed Ho Chi Minh trail went throught Lao and Cambodia because they saw american as the Common Ennemy...In Cambodia and Kampuchia Sihanou even stated that at the end people of INDOCHINA will win the war....that's why he stood by Ho Chi Minh...these were Sihanou words. The question here is WHY AMERICAN SUPPORTED FRANCE TO RECLAIM INDOCHINA which continuing to ENSLAVE INDOCHINA PEOPLE? Perhaps at the end JUSTICE PREVAILED. ' BAB BOR FAE BOON' All these documents are in you tube.



It is pointless to bring up the past. Right now Laos need to clear out all of the unexploded bombs with everyone involved during Vietnam war. 

 



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The truth about all problems about Indochina Wars starting with the colonists french took Indochina not peacefully but with their guns. In these documents ' Cambodia to Kampuchia about 3 hours, and some other documents like CIA in Indochina....all in you tube, and remember this after The World War 2 ended USA supported France to reclaim Indochina, continuing enslaving the 3 countries....the truth is that in these documents the american themselve stated that they set up Puppet Regimes in South Vietnam quote ' the american said that when they brought the puppet Ngo Dinh Diem back to South Vietnam, he was not popular among the south vietnamese people....these words were from american mouth themselve...and also William Corby told us how he ruled Laos...so Laos never been Neutral or Independent but under french colonists and american thumb...Sihanou of Cambodia and Souphanouvong saw these evil things from the french and american that's why they united with Ho Chi Minh and kicked them out from INDOCHINA.

Let have a look before 1975 I lived in Pakse and I saw at dust americans who worked at USAID ( in fact was a CIA head quarter in the South of Laos at that time admitted by William Corby former american CIA in Laos) they just took their helicopters and flew to Thailand....everybody knew that, so how could americans had these sort of power in Laos, because Laos never had independent that's why they could do what ever they wanted. But now you see who ever come to Lao they must follow Rules and Regulations....not just come and go as they like as it used to be. Why Sihanou and Souphanouvong allowed Ho Chi Minh trail went throught Lao and Cambodia because they saw american as the Common Ennemy...In Cambodia and Kampuchia Sihanou even stated that at the end people of INDOCHINA will win the war....that's why he stood by Ho Chi Minh...these were Sihanou words. The question here is WHY AMERICAN SUPPORTED FRANCE TO RECLAIM INDOCHINA which continuing to ENSLAVE INDOCHINA PEOPLE? Perhaps at the end JUSTICE PREVAILED. ' BAB BOR FAE BOON' All these documents are in you tube.



It is pointless to bring up the past. Right now Laos need to clear out all of the unexploded bombs with everyone involved during Vietnam war. 

 



France played the key role in Indochina back in mid 1800 Brother!! not after the world war II,

 



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Oops! my bad  you are right it was before Vietnam war. I'm sister not brother wink

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Oops! my bad  you are right it was before Vietnam war. I'm sister not brother wink




thats why we always asked the webmaster about banning anonymous, because anonymous can be femal, male or even gay..



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Very active Lao women and men deminers, congraturation, bepatient to clear unexploded  bom from our mother land.  

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Stop play the blaming game would you, there is the reason why the U.S bomb Laos because north vietnam use laos to attack south vietnam. without laos north vietnam couldn't won south vietnam.

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From now on we will all get our information from Youtube.....are you kidding me? It seems like almost in every Lao chat I come across. When history is concern, its always one sided.There's a lot of great books out there about Lao history. Unfortunately, the Lao government banned just about every book that speaks the truth. So if you wanna blame America, go ahead because at the end of the day. The bombs are still there, so instead of sitting there crying about it. Get your **** together, and start making those changes. Crying about it on a chat forum don't solve anything!bleh

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If Amicans were very bad,how come Thailand looks very wealthy? Is it true that Thailand has been supporting by USA for more than a century?

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HEY LAO-AMERICANS, it doesn't matter if you want to blame Laos instead of USA, I can understand what ur feeling about american sice you guys live over there for long time.

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If Amicans were very bad,how come Thailand looks very wealthy? Is it true that Thailand has been supporting by USA for more than a century?



YES!! indeed, After (Chair man Mao-Zedong ) took over the China in 1948, Mao Zedong's forces gaining strength in China and Viet-Minh rising in Vietnam, so The United State was eyeing Thailand as a bulwark againt communism. with its first arms deals with Thai military arranged in early 1948, It was the first sign of how The United State's global fight against communism would set the course of politics in Thailand, and  the monarchy's revival, over next 40 years. for the rest of 48 there was a tenuous balance between military under Phibun and the Palace-Democrat alliance. the military grew stronger as the United State started funnel  arms and money it's way  as part of anticommunist efforts. In Laos, the Nationalist-communist pathet lao, lead by the ''Red prince''. Souphanouvong, gainedstrength  with backing from Hanoi.  the long lao-thai border, and the presence of more than 10 million poor ethnic lao in the thai northeast, led Salit to invite the US intervention. and in the 60 the cold war about to start in these region, and now thailand officially a frontline state againtst the communist threat, and marked the begining  of what some call an American neo-occupation of thailand to prosecute the Indochina wars, launching a flood of US. Money,arms, and advisers, the first of 10,000 american soldiers pledged by JFK arrived within a month, backed by fighter jets and air craft carrier task force. the conflict in laos cooled momentarily, but the US . military presence in thailand inexorable grew.


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Speak-out wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

If Amicans were very bad,how come Thailand looks very wealthy? Is it true that Thailand has been supporting by USA for more than a century?



YES!! indeed, After (Chair man Mao-Zedong ) took over the China in 1948, Mao Zedong's forces gaining strength in China and Viet-Minh rising in Vietnam, so The United State was eyeing Thailand as a bulwark againt communism. with its first arms deals with Thai military arranged in early 1948, It was the first sign of how The United State's global fight against communism would set the course of politics in Thailand, and  the monarchy's revival, over next 40 years. for the rest of 48 there was a tenuous balance between military under Phibun and the Palace-Democrat alliance. the military grew stronger as the United State started funnel  arms and money it's way  as part of anticommunist efforts. In Laos, the Nationalist-communist pathet lao, lead by the ''Red prince''. Souphanouvong, gainedstrength  with backing from Hanoi.  the long lao-thai border, and the presence of more than 10 million poor ethnic lao in the thai northeast, led Salit to invite the US intervention. and in the 60 the cold war about to start in these region, and now thailand officially a frontline state againtst the communist threat, and marked the begining  of what some call an American neo-occupation of thailand to prosecute the Indochina wars, launching a flood of US. Money,arms, and advisers, the first of 10,000 american soldiers pledged by JFK arrived within a month, backed by fighter jets and air craft carrier task force. the conflict in laos cooled momentarily, but the US . military presence in thailand inexorable grew.

 




1948 mao still fought with jiang jie shi of Guo mindang,   mao took over and found china in 1949blankstare



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Speak-out wrote:

 

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If Amicans were very bad,how come Thailand looks very wealthy? Is it true that Thailand has been supporting by USA for more than a century?



YES!! indeed, After (Chair man Mao-Zedong ) took over the China in 1948, Mao Zedong's forces gaining strength in China and Viet-Minh rising in Vietnam, so The United State was eyeing Thailand as a bulwark againt communism. with its first arms deals with Thai military arranged in early 1948, It was the first sign of how The United State's global fight against communism would set the course of politics in Thailand, and  the monarchy's revival, over next 40 years. for the rest of 48 there was a tenuous balance between military under Phibun and the Palace-Democrat alliance. the military grew stronger as the United State started funnel  arms and money it's way  as part of anticommunist efforts. In Laos, the Nationalist-communist pathet lao, lead by the ''Red prince''. Souphanouvong, gainedstrength  with backing from Hanoi.  the long lao-thai border, and the presence of more than 10 million poor ethnic lao in the thai northeast, led Salit to invite the US intervention. and in the 60 the cold war about to start in these region, and now thailand officially a frontline state againtst the communist threat, and marked the begining  of what some call an American neo-occupation of thailand to prosecute the Indochina wars, launching a flood of US. Money,arms, and advisers, the first of 10,000 american soldiers pledged by JFK arrived within a month, backed by fighter jets and air craft carrier task force. the conflict in laos cooled momentarily, but the US . military presence in thailand inexorable grew.

 




1948 mao still fought with jiang jie shi of Guo mindang,   mao took over and found china in 1949blankstare



 In 1949 was completely and officially taking over by Mao-zedong's troops, they actually start campaign to take over the country way early than 48-49.

 



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HEY LAO-AMERICANS, it doesn't matter if you want to blame Laos instead of USA, I can understand what ur feeling about american sice you guys live over there for long time.



I never blamed either side,but I do try to appreciate democracy. Laos country is beautiful,innocent,friendly,and generous doesn't deserve to live with out hope and dream. And I belive my motherland doesn't like people to control her life either. When you live with no freedom, life means usless. Yes,I live in USA pretty long time so than my uncle. He's former antiAmerican back in 1975. Last year,he told me he still didn't like America even though he lives here more than 3 decades. As matter of fact, I did ask him why don't you go back to Laos since u so unhappy to stay here? Did you know American goverment willing to pay for airfare and give u some moneys to go back home? And he said,yeah!!!But Laos doesn't have good hospital and Lao goverment can't afford to pay me every month. Ha! Seriously, from bottom of my heart,I think USA bombed Laos with good faith. Since it looks very chaos,I believe usa must take big responsibility to make Laos safe again and taking care of Laotians 4/ever. And I always love to be Laotian.

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