*(Cantonese and Laonese Language)*

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

*(Cantonese and Laonese Language)*

Atko · Veteran Member

One thing that might be interesting for you to know is the close similarities that cantonese numbers and Lao numbers have

Lao: nung song sam sei ha hok chet bat gao sip
Cantonese:yat yi sam sei mm rok chut baht gao sup

-- Edited by Atko on Saturday 22nd of August 2009 06:08:24 AM

bip_01 · Senior Member

^ i've noticed that also. yesterday at work i heard a cantonese lady counting her money and i noticed how much it sounded like lao numbers

straycat · Newbie

3, 4, & 8 sound similar in quite a few Asian languages :)

3
Lao, Thai, Cantonese & Hakka: sam
Chinese & Japanese: san
Hokkien, Teochew & Lisu: saa

4
Lao, Thai, Shanghainese, Hakka, Hokkien & Teochew: sii
Chinese: shi (pronounced 'sheu')
Japanese: shi (pronounced 'she')
Cantonese: sei

8
Lao & Thai: bpaet
Chinese: ba
Cantonese & Hakka: bat
Hokkien & Teochew: bpuayt

Actually there have been some pop songs that were originally in Japanese, then the Chinese versions emerged, followed by the Thai version. A bit like what happens to songs from Disney movies when they're released for the Asian market.

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

Yes the numbers does sound like it. But I'm talking about how the accent of the chinese and laotian sound when we speak or even sing sound so similiar. Both language have that high pitch sound or 5 tones. I think it would be nice to have songs that is more smooth to the ears instead of those Esan louktoong or some other country song that laotian hears so much about.

Tobias G · Senior Member

Well, it is interesting indeed now
I shall provide you Khmer numbers form 1-10
I learn this from Khmer friends in Bangkok
One thing I know is that Khmer sound differently
from the languages above,
any relation can you notice and suggest?
so that we can discuss in a very knowledgable way.

1 - muay
2 - pee
3 - bei
4 - buan
5 - pram
6 - pram muay (5 + 1)
7 - pram pee (5 + 2)
8 - pram bei (5 + 3)
9 - pram buan (5 + 4)
10 - dop

However this is my first time to see the word "Laonese"
because I always use the word "Lao" as the adjective
"Laotian" somehow sounds a bit strange to me
"Doe anyone know the etymology of the term Laotian?"

Thanks in advance

Atko · Veteran Member

Tobias G wrote:

Well, it is interesting indeed now
I shall provide you Khmer numbers form 1-10
I learn this from Khmer friends in Bangkok
One thing I know is that Khmer sound differently
from the languages above,
any relation can you notice and suggest?
so that we can discuss in a very knowledgable way.

1 - muay
2 - pee
3 - bei
4 - buan
5 - pram
6 - pram muay (5 + 1)
7 - pram pee (5 + 2)
8 - pram bei (5 + 3)
9 - pram buan (5 + 4)
10 - dop

However this is my first time to see the word "Laonese"
because I always use the word "Lao" as the adjective
"Laotian" somehow sounds a bit strange to me
"Doe anyone know the etymology of the term Laotian?"

Thanks in advance

Well.. the cambodian language is an austro asiatic language and the languages include Cambodia, Vietnam, and some parts of India and Bangledesh. Them being the oldest inhabitors of south east asia they were also the most influenced by the Indians in writting and language. Also the etymology of Laotian is i think to not cause any confusion between us Lao and the Lao ethnic group which is probably the Lao Issan people. aww aww

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

Tobias G wrote:

Well, it is interesting indeed now
I shall provide you Khmer numbers form 1-10
I learn this from Khmer friends in Bangkok
One thing I know is that Khmer sound differently
from the languages above,
any relation can you notice and suggest?
so that we can discuss in a very knowledgable way.

1 - muay
2 - pee
3 - bei
4 - buan
5 - pram
6 - pram muay (5 + 1)
7 - pram pee (5 + 2)
8 - pram bei (5 + 3)
9 - pram buan (5 + 4)
10 - dop

However this is my first time to see the word "Laonese"
because I always use the word "Lao" as the adjective
"Laotian" somehow sounds a bit strange to me
"Doe anyone know the etymology of the term Laotian?"

Thanks in advance

LOL! Laonese since Laotian did came from Southern China and in China there is alot of historian of where the origin of our laotian laos people came from. Plus u can even go to southern china and make out acouple of words since "Tai" is a major ethnic in southern china. And plus some part of laos still speak in a heavy accent because of isolation from other Tai/Lao in laos. This Heavy accent is commonly used by alot of countrymen and other ethnic because they still hold that accent from southern china. And in another case if a Thai person from Bangkok they wouldn't understand it since there language is not really connected to the rest of "Tai" origin, but more towards khmer or Indian language.

For Example= Listen closely to thai central language and Laotian of laos language there is a *different between the two accent and language. aww

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

Atko wrote:

Tobias G wrote:

Well, it is interesting indeed now
I shall provide you Khmer numbers form 1-10
I learn this from Khmer friends in Bangkok
One thing I know is that Khmer sound differently
from the languages above,
any relation can you notice and suggest?
so that we can discuss in a very knowledgable way.

1 - muay
2 - pee
3 - bei
4 - buan
5 - pram
6 - pram muay (5 + 1)
7 - pram pee (5 + 2)
8 - pram bei (5 + 3)
9 - pram buan (5 + 4)
10 - dop

However this is my first time to see the word "Laonese"
because I always use the word "Lao" as the adjective
"Laotian" somehow sounds a bit strange to me
"Doe anyone know the etymology of the term Laotian?"

Thanks in advance

Well.. the cambodian language is an austro asiatic language and the languages include Cambodia, Vietnam, and some parts of India and Bangledesh. Them being the oldest inhabitors of south east asia they were also the most influenced by the Indians in writting and language. Also the etymology of Laotian is i think to not cause any confusion between us Lao and the Lao ethnic group which is probably the Lao Issan people.

Yes your right cambodian is an ancient language in SouthEastAsia from Southern India. Atleast Laotian admit cambodian are the oldest and inhabitors of SouthEastAsia. aww

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

Here's another SouthernChinese sound of music and I think the Shan from Burma sing this song too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuEOVTS2hw&NR=1

Here's another song and our laotian ancient accent u can kind of make out what she is singing aww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNNkx2BMM9c

Tobias G · Senior Member

Wonderful! all of you are very informative indeed

Thank you very much

Samakomlao has many professional linguistics right now aww

WienjhunSyvoraWong · Veteran Member

Tobias G wrote:

Wonderful! all of you are very informative indeed

Thank you very much

Samakomlao has many professional linguistics right now

Yes I hope more and more people will understand Laotian in SouthEast Asia and also East Asia. Since Laos is opening it's doors its a great time to learn our language and how our language became what it is now. smile

Date: Aug 30, 2009

WienjhunSyvoraWong wrote:

Have u ever heard of Cantonese singing, they sound almost like our laonese tones. Do you think we should sing our songs or any music with some Cantonese musical tones and singing style?

"I think it would sound so beautiful and plus our language tone are alike anyways."

video=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54Z9D6YDJ8

Anita Mui http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oJESi-0Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqicFbzAIs8

-- Edited by WienjhunSyvoraWong on Saturday 22nd of August 2009 04:11:58 AM

-- Edited by WienjhunSyvoraWong on Saturday 22nd of August 2009 04:12:43 AM

-- Edited by WienjhunSyvoraWong on Saturday 22nd of August 2009 04:26:07 AM

If all of you ever watches a HongKong movie and listen to the music. this is what it sound like, because more than 90% HongKong Chinese spok Cantonese. not like mainland and Taiwan. these people spoke mandarin chinese, if you ever gone to chinatown in NY city and you will see all the sign were writen in cantonese chinese.

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