The former yellow shirt would like to claim back the temple which is belonged to Cambodia.

Date: Sep 22, 2009

The former yellow shirt would like to claim back the temple which is belonged to Cambodia.

Date: Sep 22, 2009

Date: Sep 22, 2009

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Here is not Thailand so please be in peace. Don't bring those political problem of your country to make us more worry about.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Here is not Thailand so please be in peace. Don't bring those political problem of your country to make us more worry about.

I think Laos PDR and Laotians should care about what is going on around its border. You should not stick your head under the sand of Mekong River and pretend nothing going on around you. That is just dumb.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

To samakomlao manager, please delete this topick this is not our case we dislike to concern with them, everybody know well about yellow shirt. They asked only Thai people to love their nation and encourage to hate, lookdown its neighboring nations.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Lao Isan wrote:

So the local villages people are afraid that it might provoke the war and the shoot out between the Cambodiam army and the Thai army and the result will be the poor local people are suffering from the war and could not farm and make the living. But the former yellow shirts protesters are not living in that area and they came from bangkok so they don't care and they just want the temple back from cambodia.

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Date: Sep 23, 2009

Lao Isan wrote:

So the local villages people are afraid that it might provoke the war and the shoot out between the Cambodiam army and the Thai army and the result will be the poor local people are suffering from the war and could not farm and make the living. But the former yellow shirts protesters are not living in that area and they came from bangkok so they don't care and they just want the temple back from cambodia.

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what is going on around us ?

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Kop, Lao wrote:

To samakomlao manager, please delete this topick this is not our case we dislike to concern with them, everybody know well about yellow shirt. They asked only Thai people to love their nation and encourage to hate, lookdown its neighboring nations.

It is nice to know what is happening around us . mot to know what is happening it is dumb. Don't have to get involve but it is better to know what is going on .

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Kop, Lao wrote:

To samakomlao manager, please delete this topick this is not our case we dislike to concern with them, everybody know well about yellow shirt. They asked only Thai people to love their nation and encourage to hate, lookdown its neighboring nations.

Laos is part of a global community. What is happening in your neighbor might affect you directly or indirectly one way or anther. Its is good to know what is happening across your border so that you will not get caught unaware once the hostilities grow worst. Lao PDR is not an isolated country. ...Unless that is your desire for your mother land to remain isolated... then dont expect Lao to make its way out of poverty coz that simply cannot be done in isolation.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Kop, Lao wrote:

To samakomlao manager, please delete this topick this is not our case we dislike to concern with them, everybody know well about yellow shirt. They asked only Thai people to love their nation and encourage to hate, lookdown its neighboring nations.

Laos is part of a global community. What is happening in your neighbor might affect you directly or indirectly one way or anther. Its is good to know what is happening across your border so that you will not get caught unaware once the hostilities grow worst. Lao PDR is not an isolated country. ...Unless that is your desire for your mother land to remain isolated... then dont expect Lao to make its way out of poverty coz that simply cannot be done in isolation.

Totally agree with you Mr/Ms, there's some narrow mind out here somewhere. even though they live outside the country and western educated still have this kindda thinking!!!

Date: Sep 23, 2009

As you see...there is a Khmer guy out here trying to do something and he is dumb.

You posted this topic for????

Everybody knew that these castle is own by ancient Khmer but that castle is on the Thai side. Better not to bring up some political problem to talk in here. There is always fighting if you talk about History, Political and Religious

Joei Khnia Kadoor Thome Thome yawn bleh biggrin

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

As you see...there is a Khmer guy out here trying to do something and he is dumb.

You posted this topic for????

Everybody knew that these castle is own by ancient Khmer but that castle is on the Thai side. Better not to bring up some political problem to talk in here. There is always fighting if you talk about History, Political and Religious

Joei Khnia Kadoor Thome Thome

Oh, I thought the castle and land are Cambodian. When is it Thai?

Atko · Veteran Member

Cambodian made temple on a Thai border? Where's France to prove this? Weren't they the ones who made the border of each southeast Asian country ??

-- Edited by Atko on Wednesday 23rd of September 2009 10:55:38 AM

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, I thought the castle and land are Cambodian. When is it Thai?

Only the body of the Castle is belong to Cambodia since Cambodia won in the world court by the help from French's map. But the land surrounded is belong to Thailand. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Come on..look at the google map. You knew it!!!

Then...why don't you Khmer come to take Pasaht Wat Phu from Lao too? Yeah I knew that the ancient Khmer empire is so huge and powerful but it was just a history but at today Cambodia is totally different. You know what I mean?

Date: Sep 23, 2009

I think "Lao Isan" poster is not real Thai or Isan.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

What i really think right now is , They'' Laos, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam, really need to set-up some kindda organization and fund by their own govt to bring an experts or Scholars and historians, to sit-down and debate the issues. Who's who?? and What' province used to belong to whom? why? and how they got it back? Let' straight it out, why let a new generation insult each others back and forth.

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

What i really think right now is , They'' Laos, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam, really need to set-up some kindda organization and fund by their own govt to bring an experts or Scholars and historians, to sit-down and debate the issues. Who's who?? and What' province used to belong to whom? why? and how they got it back? Let' straight it out, why let a new generation insult each others back and forth.

Good idea but seem to be impossible!!!

You mean Lao will take Lanna Kingdom and some part of Isan back to Lao?

You mean Cambodia will take back the Khmer empire kingdom (which include Lao & Isan of Thailand)?

You mean Thailand will take back the gold & jewery and ask Burma to pay back that they destroyed Ayuthaya capital?

You mean Thailand will take back Lao, Cambodia, Xi Xuangpanna, South Vietnam, Malay?

You mean Lao will ask Thailand to pay back for Thai destroyed Lao capital?

Date: Sep 23, 2009

I saw some program of Thai TV showing Thai communists movement, some sort of celebration day....in youtube. Check them out if you are interested it. I was looking some video on LAO and saw these one. There are also very good German document about LAO as well, unfornately is in German.

eye_sky · Guru

"Laos is part of a global community. What is happening in your neighbor might affect you directly or indirectly one way or anther. Its is good to know what is happening across your border so that you will not get caught unaware once the hostilities grow worst. Lao PDR is not an isolated country. ...Unless that is your desire for your mother land to remain isolated... then dont expect Lao to make its way out of poverty coz that simply cannot be done in isolation."

- very well said. to not care about our neighbors is to ignore a mutually cooperative demeanor between nations.

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2009/09/scenes-from-would-be-new-wonder-of.html

Date: Sep 23, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

What i really think right now is , They'' Laos, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam, really need to set-up some kindda organization and fund by their own govt to bring an experts or Scholars and historians, to sit-down and debate the issues. Who's who?? and What' province used to belong to whom? why? and how they got it back? Let' straight it out, why let a new generation insult each others back and forth.

555555555555555555 very nice proposal, but get in mind how will you (if you are laotian) manage the 16 provinces (nowaday called isan) and think again will thailand will fund such organization ? be today reality man!

my3cent

Kwanjai · Veteran Member

Laos don't care unless it is related to Laos people and Laos. :)

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Kwanjai wrote:

Laos don't care unless it is related to Laos people and Laos. :)

you should care because everything happens in our neighbor it is effected our economy specially Thailand which would hurt our tourism.

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

What i really think right now is , They'' Laos, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam, really need to set-up some kindda organization and fund by their own govt to bring an experts or Scholars and historians, to sit-down and debate the issues. Who's who?? and What' province used to belong to whom? why? and how they got it back? Let' straight it out, why let a new generation insult each others back and forth.

That just plain silly. Leave the borders as they are and just finish demarcated them.

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, I thought the castle and land are Cambodian. When is it Thai?

Only the body of the Castle is belong to Cambodia since Cambodia won in the world court by the help from French's map. But the land surrounded is belong to Thailand. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Come on..look at the google map. You knew it!!!

Then...why don't you Khmer come to take Pasaht Wat Phu from Lao too? Yeah I knew that the ancient Khmer empire is so huge and powerful but it was just a history but at today Cambodia is totally different. You know what I mean?

The ICJ (World Court) ruled that the map is a legitimate treaty document between Siam and France because Siam/Thailand had accepted the map for almost 50 years before Thailand seized the temple when France withdrew from Cambodia. The map clearly showed that both the temple and adjoining 4.6 square km of land are on the Cambodian side of the border so therefore this piece of real estate is Cambodian.

Google map is not always accurate. There are islands on the Mekong river that seem to be on Thai's side of the border but we all know that any island on this river belongs to Laos.

Cambodia has no right to claim Vat Phou just as it does not have right to claim Phanom Rung in Buriram Province. That is just a ridiculous comparison.

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What i really think right now is , They'' Laos, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, and Vietnam, really need to set-up some kindda organization and fund by their own govt to bring an experts or Scholars and historians, to sit-down and debate the issues. Who's who?? and What' province used to belong to whom? why? and how they got it back? Let' straight it out, why let a new generation insult each others back and forth.

That just plain silly. Leave the borders as they are and just finish demarcated them.

People seem to misunderstand my point right here, What i said was '' set-up some kindda organization that can explain to our new generations'' to understand what was really going on back then. how we fight each other and why we did? for instant send 2 scholars or historians from each country and get together straight it out. some seem to think that oh we have give this back and take that back, that not what i tried to said. and also has nothing to do with borders eirther. don't worry to much, nobody gonna give anything back or getback what they've lost backthen ok, you guys think too far ahead and make some people misunderstood and go along with it. this Just way silly like the one up there said...

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, I thought the castle and land are Cambodian. When is it Thai?

Only the body of the Castle is belong to Cambodia since Cambodia won in the world court by the help from French's map. But the land surrounded is belong to Thailand. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Come on..look at the google map. You knew it!!!

Then...why don't you Khmer come to take Pasaht Wat Phu from Lao too? Yeah I knew that the ancient Khmer empire is so huge and powerful but it was just a history but at today Cambodia is totally different. You know what I mean?

The ICJ (World Court) ruled that the map is a legitimate treaty document between Siam and France because Siam/Thailand had accepted the map for almost 50 years before Thailand seized the temple when France withdrew from Cambodia. The map clearly showed that both the temple and adjoining 4.6 square km of land are on the Cambodian side of the border so therefore this piece of real estate is Cambodian.

Google map is not always accurate. There are islands on the Mekong river that seem to be on Thai's side of the border but we all know that any island on this river belongs to Laos.

Cambodia has no right to claim Vat Phou just as it does not have right to claim Phanom Rung in Buriram Province. That is just a ridiculous comparison.

Camboadian, when they go to this temply they have to climb the 80-90 degree as the entrance of the temple is on Thailand side. Thailand-Cambodia border in Isan is quite different from the Eastern part of Thailand as Isan land is high land and lift up Isan higher than Cambodia land which include that temple too.

But by the map of French which helped Cambodia to win the world court but at that time Thailand actually have right to reject or extend the judgement from the world court to do it again but at the time I don't know why Thai Gov did not asking for extend the judgement from the court to go back to find other documents to fight againt the French but then they let it go so that mean the temple is belong to Cambodia but not the land as the land cam see clearly that higher land is Thailand and low land is Cambodia

Now, these Yellow shirt wanted to bring up again and seem to have some possibility that going to World Court again

Cambodia is going to be worry again. But I don't think they gonna have big war between Thailand and Cambodia. Thailand has lots of hightech weapons and one of the strongest army troops, airforce and Navy but if it happen might not just only Cambodia fighting alone but UN, American may join too but I don't think it's impossible as American-Thailand has very long relationship but anyway, I don't the war between Thailand-Cambodia will be happen

If they closed the borders between Thai-Cambodia may effect to millions of life in Cambodia as 75% of merchandises are import from Thailand

I experienced once in Siemriep visit when I bought the most expensive bottle of Thai water that they selling in Cambodia is USD 1 per bottle. I can't believed that.

Date: Sep 26, 2009

some violent that scare the tourists away from Thailand when Thailand has less tourists so do Laos.

Date: Sep 26, 2009

[video=http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/DQSAiBg2qEY&hl=en&fs=1&border=1]

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Date: Sep 26, 2009

Beware wrote:

some violent that scare the tourists away from Thailand when Thailand has less tourists so do Laos.

These terrorists are Pattani people who want to separate the country to be indepence state. Before, Pattani was another Kingdom but under Thai colonial same as Nokorn Sithamarat

But anyway, there is only 3 Muslim provinces only that has the problem but the rest is fine. People around the world still fly to Phuket.

As long as these terrorists don't come to bomb Bangkok is fine. But if they bomb Bangkok that mean to effect the whole country and the neigbors like us too as our tourism still depend on Thailand as they are the gateway to IndoChina

Date: Sep 26, 2009

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Date: Sep 27, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, I thought the castle and land are Cambodian. When is it Thai?

Only the body of the Castle is belong to Cambodia since Cambodia won in the world court by the help from French's map. But the land surrounded is belong to Thailand. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Come on..look at the google map. You knew it!!!

Then...why don't you Khmer come to take Pasaht Wat Phu from Lao too? Yeah I knew that the ancient Khmer empire is so huge and powerful but it was just a history but at today Cambodia is totally different. You know what I mean?

The ICJ (World Court) ruled that the map is a legitimate treaty document between Siam and France because Siam/Thailand had accepted the map for almost 50 years before Thailand seized the temple when France withdrew from Cambodia. The map clearly showed that both the temple and adjoining 4.6 square km of land are on the Cambodian side of the border so therefore this piece of real estate is Cambodian.

Google map is not always accurate. There are islands on the Mekong river that seem to be on Thai's side of the border but we all know that any island on this river belongs to Laos.

Cambodia has no right to claim Vat Phou just as it does not have right to claim Phanom Rung in Buriram Province. That is just a ridiculous comparison.

Camboadian, when they go to this temply they have to climb the 80-90 degree as the entrance of the temple is on Thailand side. Thailand-Cambodia border in Isan is quite different from the Eastern part of Thailand as Isan land is high land and lift up Isan higher than Cambodia land which include that temple too.

But by the map of French which helped Cambodia to win the world court but at that time Thailand actually have right to reject or extend the judgement from the world court to do it again but at the time I don't know why Thai Gov did not asking for extend the judgement from the court to go back to find other documents to fight againt the French but then they let it go so that mean the temple is belong to Cambodia but not the land as the land cam see clearly that higher land is Thailand and low land is Cambodia

Now, these Yellow shirt wanted to bring up again and seem to have some possibility that going to World Court again

Cambodia is going to be worry again. But I don't think they gonna have big war between Thailand and Cambodia. Thailand has lots of hightech weapons and one of the strongest army troops, airforce and Navy but if it happen might not just only Cambodia fighting alone but UN, American may join too but I don't think it's impossible as American-Thailand has very long relationship but anyway, I don't the war between Thailand-Cambodia will be happen

If they closed the borders between Thai-Cambodia may effect to millions of life in Cambodia as 75% of merchandises are import from Thailand

I experienced once in Siemriep visit when I bought the most expensive bottle of Thai water that they selling in Cambodia is USD 1 per bottle. I can't believed that.

Thailand cannot win this case at the World Court. If you read the judgment the Court made in 1962, it is clearly stated that both land and temple are part of Cambodia.

"The Court therefore felt bound to pronounce in favour of the
frontier indicated on the Annex I map in the disputed area and it
became unnecessary to consider whether the line as mapped did in fact
correspond to the true watershed line.

For these reasons, the Court upheld the submissions of Cambodia concerning sovereignty over Preah Vihear."

The yellow shirts (PAD) is using this issue for domestic political gain in Thailand. They encourage the Thai army to forcibly removed Cambodian personnel from both the land and the temple. If the PAD has it way, there will definitely be arm conflict between the two nations. If Thailand has fully supported Cambodia nomination of Preah Vihear as the Samak's government wanted to do, then both nation could have benefited from the temple and the land could possible become the first Cultural Development Area (Peace Land) in Asean, similar to Canada/USA Waterton Gracier International Peace Park. Thanks to PAD this is not going to happen. Perhaps Souvannakhomkham and Chiangsean will have that title.

Date: Sep 27, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Thailand cannot win this case at the World Court. If you read the judgment the Court made in 1962, it is clearly stated that both land and temple are part of Cambodia.

"The Court therefore felt bound to pronounce in favour of the
frontier indicated on the Annex I map in the disputed area and it
became unnecessary to consider whether the line as mapped did in fact
correspond to the true watershed line.

For these reasons, the Court upheld the submissions of Cambodia concerning sovereignty over Preah Vihear."
The yellow shirts (PAD) is using this issue for domestic political gain in Thailand. They encourage the Thai army to forcibly removed Cambodian personnel from both the land and the temple. If the PAD has it way, there will definitely be arm conflict between the two nations. If Thailand has fully supported Cambodia nomination of Preah Vihear as the Samak's government wanted to do, then both nation could have benefited from the temple and the land could possible become the first Cultural Development Area (Peace Land) in Asean, similar to Canada/USA Waterton Gracier International Peace Park. Thanks to PAD this is not going to happen. Perhaps Souvannakhomkham and Chiangsean will have that title.

If is it no chance people wont to run back in the world court, they won't comeout to protest for it loh... There is a chance to ask the world court to redo it again

Date: Sep 30, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20alMJddNlE

Any war or problems are happening between Thailand and Cambodia would affect Laos directly or indirectly . So Laos could not ignore and pretend that is not our problems because if Thai economy is hurt so do Lao economy because Thailand is the number one investor in Laos. So which side should Laos vote for if this case do to the world court again? the yellow shirt or the Cambodia because the red shirts has already honor the court order if 1964 and accepted and gave the temple to the Cambodia and agreed for a long time with the France treaties . Also the Eskan village people don't want war because they are living and make a living by the Thai Cambodia border and people will be killed . The yellow shirt might provoke the war and forced the Thai military to fight and kill.

Date: Sep 30, 2009

Kwanjai · Veteran Member

why are the Laotian even care about cambodia and thailand issue???? You people are so retarded look at your own country its poor! Think about your own country frist then the rest later!!!omg

Date: Sep 30, 2009

Kwanjai wrote:

why are the Laotian even care about cambodia and thailand issue???? You people are so retarded look at your own country its poor! Think about your own country frist then the rest later!!!omg

You are right to think about our country first if we don't beware of what is going on between Thailand and cambodia and if the war broke out that would directly and indirectly effect lao economy because 90% of the products in Laos are coming from Thailand even the tourists.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRqTgQaAR8

Date: Sep 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Kwanjai wrote:

why are the Laotian even care about cambodia and thailand issue???? You people are so retarded look at your own country its poor! Think about your own country first then the rest later!!!omg

You are right to think about our country first if we don't beware of what is going on between Thailand and Cambodia and if the war broke out that would directly and indirectly effect Lao economy because 90% of the products in Laos are coming from Thailand even the tourists.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRqTgQaAR8

Today Thailand is number one invest in Laos if the Thai economy is hurt so do Lao economy. Laos use Thai railroad and harbor ans ship from not isolated to the world. If there is the war betweem Thailand and Cambodia and the Muslin terroists of course every thing and food and gas and oil will be very expensive in laos and also the sea game is going most of the guests are coming from and through Thailand.

Date: Oct 1, 2009

The yellow shirts created a lot of problems since they shut down the airport last years which Laos also lost a lot of tourists and income. Now they would like to provoke the war between Cambodia and Thailand. The red shirts already agree and accepted and honor the world court decision and agreed with the French border agreement. As we know if Thailand go to war against Cambodia , it will effect Lao economy specially tourism and food , medicine, vaccin and other products which are made in Thailand . Also the Muslin terrorists in the southern part of Thailand as well. Laos could not ignore and pretend that is none of our business. So it effect Laos directly.