How could the south Korea and Singapore do it in only few decades and beyond imagination ?

Date: Oct 11, 2009

RE: How could the south Korea and Singapore do it in only few decades and beyond imagination ?

Date: Oct 11, 2009

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khonthakek wrote:

after vietnamese and chinese are full on our soil and the lao population is full of mixed people, lao viet, lao chinese and lao farang and then we are smarter and have a better education, of course we will develop as singapore and south korea, but how long it takes? this is a question. hope that it is not too late . because our earth now is risky .3s

How about freedom of speech, the right to vote,and new Ideas in Laos.

you can ****t about government wherever you want but not in public place. we have a right to vote, for example: vote for head of classrom, head Unit, vote for head of village and vote for representative committee for provincial election who represent the province in central government. but as for prime minister and president and other minister. we have no right to vote.
the new idea from laos is improving, a lot of people have idea, but only an idea. i believe that we get out of poorest and reach developed level soon and that we need support from laonok and international orgs and neighbor countries.

I'm not talking about little guys and you know exactly what I meant by it.

Are you sure you want " JAKAPHAT" to go help Laos? Aren't you still consider this

people bad, corrupted, and meaningless for the Lao?

.bor hai phouk jakaphat and phouk khai sad khao ma lok loun, this is a part of lao national song. lao Pdr ALWAYS WELCOME ANY COUNTRIES, ANYONE WHO WILL HELP US!! BUT WE FIGHT ANY COUNTRIES AND ANYONE WHO INVADES US.

^^ OKAY MR. CONNIVING AS IN HOME / COUNTRY WRECKER ^^

Date: Oct 11, 2009

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

Date: Oct 11, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.
Article 31. Lao citizens have the right and freedom of speech, press and assembly; and have the right to set up associations and to stage demonstrations which are not contrary to the law.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

Date: Oct 11, 2009

I'm not talking about little guys and you know exactly what I meant by it.

Are you sure you want " JAKAPHAT" to go help Laos? Aren't you still consider this

people bad, corrupted, and meaningless for the Lao?

JAKAPHAT NEE YOOM AMERICA THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT . JAKAPHAT IS THE ONE WHO OPENED THE FREE TRADE WITH CHINA, SOUTH KOREA AND SINGAPORE AND MAKE THESE COUNTRIES VERY RICH AND ECONOMY STRONG. LAOS IS NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL BY BE ISOLATE AND SANCTIONED FROM THE FREE WORLD AND TRADE WITH FREE TRADE COMMUNITY COUNTRIES. JUST LEARN FROM CUBA AND KOREA . IT HAS BEEN OVER 35 YEARS SINCE THE LPDR RULING LAOS AND LAOS STILL IS THE POOREST AND LEAST DEVELOPPED COUNTRY . JAKAPHAT WILL COME IN LAOS BY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS UNLIKE VIETNAMESE AND CHINESE ARE COMING IN LAOS BY MILLION PEOPLE. THE CHINESE BUILD STADIUM AND THEY BROUGHT THE CHINESE WOKERS OR ANY MONEY THAT CHINESE INVEST IN LAOS EVEN THE CASINO WORKERS , THE CHINESE DOESN'T HIRE LAOTIAN BUT CHINESE. ALSO VIETNAMESE DO THE SAME IN THE RUBBER PLATATION , ALL WORKERS ARE VIETNAMESE. THEN LAOTIAN HAVE TO GO TO THAILAND TO WORK. THE WORLD HAVE BE CHANGING AND THERE ARE ONLY 5 COUNTRIES THAT ARE REMAIN COMMUIST IN THE WORLD THAT IS NOT TOO MANY COUNTRIES TO TRADE WITH IN THE WORLD.

Date: Oct 11, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.
Article 31. Lao citizens have the right and freedom of speech, press and assembly; and have the right to set up associations and to stage demonstrations which are not contrary to the law.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

The world knew what Communist is = the people with no moral, no conscience is the root of corruptions and poverty,always contradict with every thing they said either verbally or in writing, and conniving.

Tobias G · Senior Member

Here's some important information about current economy of Laos
I'm picking this up but E-Kwanjai has just ruin the topic!!!!!!!!!
Man! Can we do something about the girl? But let's forget it
and come to our point because I, as a businessman, see trade
as the key factor to move Laos forward very effectively
and let's compare and share some productive idea!

the source : CIA - The World Factbook
Countries in blue is non-asean
Countries in red is ASEAN

Laos

Import partners

Thailand 68.7%
China 11.3%
Vietnam 4.7% (2008)

Export partners

Thailand 34.7%
Vietnam 13.2%
China 8.6%
South Korea 4.5% (2008)

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Thailand

Import partners

Japan 18.8%
China 11.2%
US 6.4%
UAE 6%
Malaysia 5.5%
Saudi Arabia 4.1%
Singapore 4% (2008)

Export partners

US 11.4%
Japan 11.4%
China 9.2%
Singapore 5.7%
Hong Kong 5.6%
Malaysia 5.6%
Australia 4.3% (2008)

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Cambodia

Import partners

Thailand 27.5%
China 16.2%
Vietnam 15.4%
Hong Kong 8.3%
Singapore 7.1%
South Korea 4.4% (2008)

Export partners

US 53.9%
Germany 7.7%
Canada 5.9%
UK 5.4%
Vietnam 4.9% (2008)

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Vietnam

Import partners

China 21.3%
Singapore 11.7%
Japan 10.4%
South Korea 7.4%
Thailand 6.6% (2008)

Export partners

US 20.9%
Japan 13.7%
Australia 7.4%
China 6.9%
Germany 4.5% (2008)

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Malaysia

Import partners

Singapore 23%
China 12.7%
Japan 9.8%
US 7.8%
Thailand 5.7%
South Korea 4.3%(2008)

Export partners

Singapore 15.6%
US 12.9%
China 12.5%
Japan 9.6%
Thailand 4.1% (2008)

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Singapore

Import partners

Malaysia 11.9%
US 11.8%
China 10.5%
Japan 8.1%
South Korea 5.6%
Indonesia 5.5%
Saudi Arabia 4.6% (2008)

Export partners

Malaysia 12.1%
Indonesia 10.5%
Hong Kong 10.3%
China 9.2%
US 7.1%
Japan 4.9%
Australia 4.1% (2008)

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Japan

Import partners

China 18.9%
US 10.4%
Saudi Arabia 6.7%
Australia 6.2%
UAE 6.1%
Indonesia 4.3% (2008)

Export partners

US 17.8%
China 16%
South Korea 7.6%
Hong Kong 5.1% (2008)

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South Korea

Import partners

China 19.2%
Japan 15.1%
US 8.8%
Saudi Arabia 6.1% (2008)

Export partners

China 25.5%
US 10.9%
Japan 6.4% (2008)

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China

Import partners

Japan 12.2%
South Korea 10%
US 6.6%
Hong Kong 4.9%
Germany 4.5% (2008)

Export partners

US 18.6%
Hong Kong 12.7%
Japan 8.2%
South Korea 5.1%
Germany 4.2% (2008)

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USA

Import partners

China 16.5%
Canada 15.7%
Mexico 10.1%
Japan 6.6%
Germany 4.6% (2008)

Export partners

Canada 20.1%
Mexico 11.7%
China 5.5%
Japan 5.1%
Germany 4.2%
UK 4.1% (2008)

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Date: Oct 12, 2009

Alot of Lao people are dreaming, IF YOU WANT YOUR COUNTRY TO CHANGE AND BE LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD THEN DON'T JUST TALK IN THIS FORUM, BUT GO TO YOUR GOVERNMENT HEAD OFFICE AND SAY IT!.............ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORLDS!...START A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!! KILL THE COMMUNIST!!!!

Date: Oct 12, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

Yea you have many votes all right you even vote for miss cement? but did mention it.
So why not vote for president of Laos?

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

Yea you have many votes all right you even vote for miss cement? but did mention it.
So why not vote for president of Laos?

Yes , the lao people have no right to elect the Lao president and prime minister. The Lao president and the Lao prime minister must be selected by the Lao communist party leaders and also must be approved by the Vietnamese communist party as well.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Alot of Lao people are dreaming, IF YOU WANT YOUR COUNTRY TO CHANGE AND BE LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD THEN DON'T JUST TALK IN THIS FORUM, BUT GO TO YOUR GOVERNMENT HEAD OFFICE AND SAY IT!.............ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORLDS!...START A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!! KILL THE COMMUNIST!!!!

Any thing is possible , not dreaming ,just have a look at south Korea and Singapore are not dreaming and they have done it . Why have to kill any body , Lao just change like the other nation which abandoned the failed and corrupted system to the right one. Russia was the first country who used that system still abandoned the system so do a lot of the countries only 5 countries are remain in the communist system. Any thing could be resolved in the civilize and peaceful ways in order to get Laos out from the deep hole of poverty and poorest country . Laos was poor yesterday and is poor today and will be poor tomorrow if the high rank officials obey and respecting the laws and stop corrupting and be the government for the people and by the people then other issues could be resolved.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

        YEAH....YEAH....I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THIS TOO. WHAT'S UP WITH THESE PROJECTS SUCH AS
        LAKXAO. I SAW THE BIG HOUSE THERE AND THOUGHT IT WAS CHAO BOUN OUM NA CHAMPASAK'S
        CASTLE IN CHAMPASAK. CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAINT. MANY THANKS!

      Joa Boun Oum was come from the one of the Champasak kingdom so that is no wonder that he had his own castle just like the other king in the other countries . Any way that is the past what it is matter is right now with the current government who are corrupted which make Laos to be the least developed and also the poorest country . Corruption during the Lan Xang kingdom or the time of Joa Anouvong or during the royal government were bad but why the current government have to corrupted now so history have to repeat itself over and over again.( betray, corrupted and bring the other nation to be master and conquer Laos just to be in power that is why laos lost Esan to Siam that was the big lost in history  ). Now soon Laos will be indirectly take over by Vietnamese and Chinese . Soon Lao will be minority in Laos and most of the business will be owned by the Chinese and Vietnamese. A lot more of Lao are going to Thailand looking for jobs because the government could create jobs for them in Laos. The government does not train them to become skill workers and educated well enough to be in the basic international education of 21 st century level.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

It has got to do with a good leader with a good vision.

Have you noticed that things have changed dramatically since our current PM, Buasone, has been leading our country? He's young, educated, smart...

In the past we didn't have this kind of leaders. They were great in the war and had done so much to our country, but that doesn't mean that they would be great leaders in a modern/economic world.

Right just dragging laos to be the leat developped and poorest country and making themselves to be mulitimillionaires while millions of lao are poor and living in poverty.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

I'm not talking about little guys and you know exactly what I meant by it.

Are you sure you want " JAKAPHAT" to go help Laos? Aren't you still consider this

people bad, corrupted, and meaningless for the Lao?

.bor hai phouk jakaphat and phouk khai sad khao ma lok loun, this is a part of lao national song. lao Pdr ALWAYS WELCOME ANY COUNTRIES, ANYONE WHO WILL HELP US!! BUT WE FIGHT ANY COUNTRIES AND ANYONE WHO INVADES US.

Laos does not have oil for JAKAPHAT to be interested but JAKAPHAT has a lot of millions of dollars that Laos want their dollars . Laos is not even the size of California or one of the US states . JAKAPHat will not sent million of the American people to live and settle in Laos like the Vietnamese and the Chinese. May be only send millions of dollars to invest or aid money to help poor Laotian people to build school and developed the country.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By Lao PDR Laos are supposed to be run by the people and the people have the right of freedom of speech and press but the government has never allow that to happen and practice,

Article 2. The state of the Lao People's Democratic Republic is a People's Democratic State. All powers are of the people, by the people and for the interests of the multi-ethnic people of all strata in society with the workers, farmers and intellectuals as key components.

Article 32. Lao citizens have the right and freedom to conduct study and to apply advanced sciences, techniques and technologies; to create artistic and literary works and to engage in cultural activities which are not contrary to the law.

Yea you have many votes all right you even vote for miss cement? but did mention it.
So why not vote for president of Laos?

Lao president and Lao prime minister must be selected by the commnunist leaders only not to be elected by the Lao people. That is why Laos will never be like south Korea and Singapore or Austria , Luxembourg and switzerland.

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Of course, Laos is not America and America is not Laos. Get over it.

BTW, Norway is rank #1 in UNDP HDI. That is a true socialist country

Yes , I agree with you that Norway is good model and also the whole world agree that Norway is the best country to live. So are you sure that Laos would like to bring back monarchy , Norway has the king.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway

Of course , Laos is not America and America is not Laos . What we discuss here is about how south Korea and Singapore have changed and turn from very poor country and poverty to the first world countries in only few decades. Also we know that Laos is land lock and also discuss about Austria, Luxembourg and Switzerland are also land lock so should Laos take them as the model without to be isolated from the free trade countries and the world community. As we know that Laos will not make it along and could not afford to be isolated and be sanction by the world community like north Korea and Cuba. It have been 35 years that Laos is still the least developed and poorest country in southeast southeast Asia.

Having king or not having king has nothing to do much with good governance. You can find state with constitutional monarchy, republicanism, federalism and autocratic (disguised as democracy) form of government all over the world that works well.

Yeah, there are a lot of good model for Laos to emulate but unless the implementations are thoroughly carry out with transparency or the results are measurable and accountable then all these governmental sophisticated sounding policies and plans are just waste of time.

So Laos must start it sometime soon then.....why the government are waiting for ? would you suggest how should the government start form where ?

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Whatever you guy said but one country that you don't wanna say or don' like to say is... THAILAND

You can't escape from the truth that we are walking step by step by following Thailand. Our Economic, Social DEvelopment and Tourism rely on Thailand

Don't just dreams so far away from the reality like that, guys!!!

your mind is just like the people in the people who were living in the cave and always depend on someone else and follow someone never try to create your own idea .

Date: Oct 13, 2009

Of course, Laos is not America and America is not Laos. Get over it.

BTW, Norway is rank #1 in UNDP HDI. That is a true socialist country.

100% you are right that Norway is the best system and the number 1 rank in the list for the best country to live in so why the Lao government take Norway as the model and using the Norway system then. Norway has the king and it is monarchy and democracy and freedom country so Laos will have free trade and investment with the free world community and have a lot of foreign aid from the free world countries. So why Laos have to listen to Vietnamese government advice since 1975.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway