Even it may be true that there are corruptions every where in the world , but only a small percentage of their locals are living in poor condition and besides those countries are rich enough for their government to corrupt unlike Laos, where our government got help from foreign aid most of the times and still a very small percentage of our locals are living in some what good condition , so I think it make sense for Laos visitors at Samakomlao  debate about any issue concerning Laos if it's going improve the conditions of Laos!

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it is starting to get somewhat annoying.

It usually plays out: Someone posts great news about something in Laos, then there's always another person that makes some lame remark criticizing it. Then before you know it, other people start to jump on the bandwagon and begin to bash the topic as well. Then they start comparing it to other countries and start bickering over that.

Enough with it already! Everyone is aware of the Lao government's shortcomings. Everyone is aware of the economic conditions and that Laos is still poor. Everyone knows that there is corruption all over the world. I just don't get why people still feel the need to bring that up in every single positive thread and turn it into such a negative conversation as if we didn't know that already.

Bringing up valid points and arguments are one thing, but many of these posts are short, poorly written rants that have little relevance to the initial topic. I'm referring to posts like "it only pollute enviroment, no good for local people, only government pocket. no wonder laos still very poor"

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I am also tried of hearing people saying that there are many poor people in Lao. 

If, you work hard you will not be poor.

I understand some of these poor people that its difficult to dig your way out but, who put you there in the first place. 

what i don't get is these people keep making babies. I feel very bad when i see photos of kids that shows that they do not have a good life.

when you keep making babies when you don't have the mean to support you are just keeping that cycle going.

so don't blame the government the government didn't have sex with your wife.


Nangdarling.

 

It's not only the government topic, but it seems to spread to other topics as well. I think the faults are to be blamed on both parties: Lao Nork and Lao Nai.  As long as we can not go pass the image we portrayed of each other such as "Lao Nork looking down on Lao Nai" or  "Lao Nork begin labelled as traitor" we will never have peace on Samakomlao.  There may be some truth to it whether we want to admit it or not, but the attitude does show up on our posts.  If we don't lose the attitude, our problems will never be resolved.

I was fortunate enough to visit Laos twice.  Most of the people  I meet there are kind and genuine.  I don't see enough of that representaton here and more importantly, the attitude shown here is unfairly misrepresenting Lao people as a whole. 

As for the "traitor" remark, it is beyond our control.  Who could blame anyone for wanting better opportunities for their kids or grandchildren.  It is afterall, human nature.  If anyone is offered that chance of a  better life, who wouldn't jump on it whether he or she is Lao, Thai, Viet, or other nationality.  Even though we live abroad, we still have to work hard for what we have and most of us do send money back to Laos.

As Lao Nork, we grow up and are influenced by a society that is conceivably different from our Lao Nai counterpart.  Our lifestyle and views, whether they are our taste in food, fashion, or music can different from those in Laos and it is okay to disagree with them, but we still need to be respectful.  Different doesn't always equate to being "right".

I think I wrote too much, but that is my observation.  In order to help Laos, we need to first solve our own problems here on Samakomlao.

Green Lemon

A good way to avoid negative comments about a post is to post things that are factualy correct and don't contain too much opinion. If you do post an opinion article expect apposing opinions, that's how a free exchange of ideas works.

I used to read the People's Daily in China every day. This was a long time ago. Every article had rosy great news, of course things weren't always great, I learned to read between the lines.

When I saw glowing headlines about Iran importing more products from China than anywhere I immeadiately thought of the huge arms shipment I had read about on the BBC.

When I hear of any large government agreement I think of what is realy being agreed to. How much land is traded for one hydro plant? If the total revenu from one lignite concession is so tiny why is there an agreement? The answers to many questions are obvious to a discerning reader or should I say thinker.

Read, think, then think again, and ya, post it here, I love to hear what others think.

Sometimes I feel like some anonymous users are wild animals. Notice I said 'some', not all.

bip_01 wrote:

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Sometimes I feel like some anonymous users are wild animals. Notice I said 'some', not all.

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Shut up bitch,let me tell you some,wash your mouth and suck my big Dick.

 

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Deathep,

You can't expect much from a Lao Patikan. A positive news from Laos is a death sentence for them. They are still clinging to their hatred for the Lao PDR for removing them from power three decades ago. Washington, their former employer are increasingly distancing themselves from these sources of embarassment and legacy of the American failed foreign policy.










DEATHEP wrote:

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it is starting to get somewhat annoying.

It usually plays out: Someone posts great news about something in Laos, then there's always another person that makes some lame remark criticizing it. Then before you know it, other people start to jump on the bandwagon and begin to bash the topic as well. Then they start comparing it to other countries and start bickering over that.

Enough with it already! Everyone is aware of the Lao government's shortcomings. Everyone is aware of the economic conditions and that Laos is still poor. Everyone knows that there is corruption all over the world. I just don't get why people still feel the need to bring that up in every single positive thread and turn it into such a negative conversation as if we didn't know that already.

Bringing up valid points and arguments are one thing, but many of these posts are short, poorly written rants that have little relevance to the initial topic. I'm referring to posts like "it only pollute enviroment, no good for local people, only government pocket. no wonder laos still very poor"

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HEY,  DON'T YOU DARE TURN THE TABLE ON LAO AMERICANS! MR. LYING LADGE AND HOME LAND INVADERS!!!

YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR YAPPER BEFORE I PUT MY FOOT IN IT!!!

 

 

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Anonymous wrote:

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Deathep,

You can't expect much from a Lao Patikan. A positive news from Laos is a death sentence for them. They are still clinging to their hatred for the Lao PDR for removing them from power three decades ago. Washington, their former employer are increasingly distancing themselves from these sources of embarassment and legacy of the American failed foreign policy.

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I agree with that! even though i am american-born lao

 

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LOL LOL you're so pathetic enough to agree with your own opinion.

 

I agree with khonthakhek. If we can;'t say anything about Laos (either good or bad in constructive way)  here why not go ahead shut down this forum.

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To: Nangdarling

Honestly, no matter where you throw the blames at.  It is the image of your country normally that's being judged by how well is the preferments of the governments not by its residents.
I'm sure Lao people are not lazy if there are jobs for them in their country and if their government is taking the responsibility of creating jobs and provide skill training and educational facilities for them I think the out-come will be very different ,  and this issue would be a dead issue a long time ago!

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I am not blamming I am pointing out just a fractions of the fact of why people is poor. I did not say Lao people are lazy.

Here in America I said we have the best government support but, there are still 
people living on the street "because they are lazy"

i will said again if, you are poor you are lazy period.


Nangdarling

 

 

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Nangdarling said "If you are poor you are lazy period."

Your generalization was quite blunt and it is merely the facts!