kuc bard nee....  so typical of Laos..  those who took the loan already build their mansions and had enough SUV...  now, the citizens will be paying for it...  i wonder what are those loans for? construction of roads? schools?

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kuc bard nee....  so typical of Laos..  those who took the loan already build their mansions and had enough SUV...  now, the citizens will be paying for it...  i wonder what are those loans for? construction of roads? schools?

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No Seeharhed, not for education nor public welfare but to support institutionalization of communism in laos. Try to find out when the loan was granted and you will understand.

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kuc bard nee....  so typical of Laos..  those who took the loan already build their mansions and had enough SUV...  now, the citizens will be paying for it...  i wonder what are those loans for? construction of roads? schools?

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 Just wonder how many loans like this loan from different countries and where are those money go .

Just wonder who posted this topic and talked about the truth  and  not afraid to be accused to be Patikan also surprised that this topic has not been deleted yet or closed . Is this a true news or roomer ?

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does anybody know what project that 1.3 billion went towards? that is a surprising amount for loans, especially if it was made in 2003

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         Deathep , Laos took a lot of loans from a lot of countries   and failed to pay them back  many times and it is no surprise ,isn't it ? But the loan from the Russia , Vietnam and China and they are our allies and they want their money back with profit just like the other investors. So if Laos could not pay them back in cash so they will take land  like the Chinese controlled the land in the northern part of Laos to build casinos and the Vietnamese for their rubber plantation and other land to build resource for golf . So the Russia would like to do the same . The questions are how much and how many loans that Laos has in debt right now any body have the authority to audit the national treasure  fund. Any one dare to question the high rank government or dare to speak out ? I am sure there are always enough of excuses and some explanations but every loans and foreign aid  money are always disappeared and nothing had been done time after time. So Brother Deathep don't speak to loud otherwise you will be accused to be patikan. Laos is going to loan a lot of money from the Japanese and also the world bank , Australia , south Korea , Taiwan and a lot of countries and those countries are willing to help Laos and there will be more money from the free world as well if they see the confident that Laos is capable to manage the money and capable to make profit out of their money and be able to pay back the loans with profit. So far government took the loan and spent the money  and become broke again .So no matter how much Laos take the loan and then the money will be disappeared nothing have been done and no factories have been built.

 

  . Where is BLM ?

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  . Where is BLM ?

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I can't believe brother BLM did not even say goodbye to us. If he did not say goodbye that means he might come back. I miss reading his reply especially on this topic.

 

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You know who would know? only SeeHarHed and Konthakhek would know.

 

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Taking the loans to build the roads and railroads so the investors could build their factories and the business and created jobs for the local Laotian or building schools or occupation center to train the Lao people the skill for jobs and  the industries that are good investments if just took the loan and spent the money and keep on taking more loans  and doing nothing and the money keep disappearing so our children and grandchildren and great and great grandchildren will be in debt and be slaves for centuries to come and perhaps Laos will be owed by the other nation indirectly.

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sorry our Government know only to spend the money, they don't know how to earn the money.

Just bare with it,

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You have no right to know where and when the huge sum of money had been borrowed and where it has gone but you have the obligatory right to pay it, directly or indirectly and your children, grandchildren and grand-grand children are not excluded.
and you have to think : how much cost a russian tank, a russian made war plane, helicopter, trucks, ammunitions for our army not including the bridges, hospitals and schools... as we are no more of any use for them ( Russians) they are showing the bill... Fair ? hehe ! poor me !

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          According to the  Russian Federation Council that was not an arm deal loan specially in 2003 that was a loan. So Russian Federation council  only mention 1.3 billion  loan  and Laos must pay back the loan in schedule. Laos took a lot of loans from the other countries and failed to pay them back in the past but the other countries lost their money and could do any thing about it . So Laos have very bad credit. But China, Vietnam and Russia will not take the lost so the China took the controlled of the land and the wood in the northern part of Laos for the leasing of  90 years to build casinos  . The Vietnamese in the southern part of Laos for rubber plantation and resources for golf course and building Vietnamese town and the Chinese will build the China town  in Vientian close to That Luang. Now Russia wand some land also. Laos will lease the land to the other countries for 90 years and the money which were already disappeared. Just wonder for leasing the farm land to south Korea , Taiwan and other countries as well so Laos will be more farming products and shopping mall . It is good that Laos will be more developed and more investment in agriculture but all of the business and agriculture products which produce from Laos will benefit the investors because they  belong to them. Where do the money go ? The money are already disappeared . Now  Laos needs more a new loans from the world bank , Japan , south Korea ,Taiwan ,...etc. Just wonder with bad credit that failed to paid bad the loan how are things going to be? Just wonder about the income money from the hydro dam  will benefit the Laotian people . Will the income from hydro power dams will be enough to make the payment of  of the loans.

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  . Where is BLM ?

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I can't believe brother BLM did not even say goodbye to us. If he did not say goodbye that means he might come back. I miss reading his reply especially on this topic.

 

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        BLM talked the truth too much and his comments had been deleted and he felt be insulted .

 

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It is so sad indeed to know that the poor country like us  have to repaid the debt which we never know when we borrowed?
Where all the money go ? Better the Government Agency have to come out and speak the truth of everything.  who signed the load?  where the money goes?  what project the money has been using?

We as Lao citizen need to know now, right now , not tomorrow or next time...

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        Very well common people , you are demanding to know the truth about the loan on this web site , You are nut. You are not going to get any answers . If you are criticising and complaining too much and they will shut your mouth for good.The government will do what ever they please and regardless of the people like it or not. In order to know the truth just make the research from the Russian news and the world and foreign news where and when the loans were made , You would know from the creditor or the countries who gave the Loans to Laos but you will never know where were the money going and what for ?  For sure Laos has to pay for the loan one way or the other but not by cash because Laos does not have cash. So Laos  has to lease the land to the Russia to control like the Vietnamese and the Chinese 90 years lease and how many acres of land to cover their payments or be may more than 90 years lease. Too bad that Laos leasing the land to the Chinese , Vietnamese and the Russian and the money of the leasing are already disappeared or have already been spent.

 

He sleep with his wife right now be careful talking when he wake up.

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Wow!!!  very suprised that samakomlao allows the people to criticise and complain that long time without deleting  and closing the topic. Where is the gentleman who is always accusing someone to be Patikan . This is news were from the Russian council and what he has to say about this .

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Because people cussed at him and he finally realize he need to be reasonable. He only chase away good contributors to his web forum if he does not care and many members become upset also he lose their respect.

 

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Did I hear BLM talking? Was it you? Hope you're doin fine.

 

Laos must stop taking loans which Laos couldn't  pay them back specially from China and Vietnam and Russia. So the  many young genreations who know nothing about the loan will be in debt for decades to pay for. Lao governemt must earn the money before spending the money. Government need to changes the failed system  and policy.

please put a number each statement
so we can easily understand who was asking
and who was answering
example number 5. is praise number 2.
or number 3. is against 4.

thank you

That $1.3 billion debt is only from Russia, what about debts we’re owed to other countries? At the moment, Lao debts are out of control, nobody in the government knows how to sort it out except to borrow borrow and spend spend. The worse thing about the international loan in Laos is that “we” the general public are not told how the money was used. The only thing we know for sure is many high ranking government officers buy their big cars which run pass us every day on Vientiane street, and nearly forget their castles and lands.

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Dont worry guys. BLM, though extremely disappointed with how Samakomlao's unreasonable deletion of his posts, his love and concern for Laos remain. He just prefer to spend his time wisely than to participate in a forum that does not value time and efforts spent by contributors to make this forum active. Many share the same sentiments, i believe. But i also hope he would share his good thoughts on this topic, which I started.

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You said it nicely and I agree with your comment. Do you know him because you talk like you know him.

 

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Dont worry guys. BLM, though extremely disappointed with how Samakomlaos unreasonable deletion of his posts, his love and concern for Laos remain. He just prefer to spend his time wisely than to participate in a forum that does not value time and efforts spent by contributors to make this forum active. Many share the same sentiments, i believe. But i also hope he would share his good thoughts on this topic, which I started.

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You said it nicely and I agree with your comment. Do you know him because you talk like you know him.

 

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Let's say Im privileged. Though he didn't give a hint that he would disappear from this forum, he appreciates the friendship of Khonthakek, Seeharhed, Speak out, Nang Darling, as well as the support of others and those who had civilized argument with him. Who knows, maybe he will find time to visit, even post, when he's no longer busy.

And to all who responded to this topic, thank you! I read good replies.

 Cheers!

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         Since brother BLM is not reply to this topic , why brother  Speak Out ,Khonthahed, Seeharhed and NangDarling   give  some comments to this topic then . I like to read Brother speak out  comments really make sense.

 

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Let's say Im privileged. Though he didn't give a hint that he would disappear from this forum, he appreciates the friendship of Khonthakek, Seeharhed, Speak out, Nang Darling, as well as the support of others and those who had civilized argument with him. Who knows, maybe he will find time to visit, even post, when he's no longer busy.

And to all who responded to this topic, thank you! I read good replies.

 Cheers!

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         Since brother BLM is not reply to this topic , why brother  Speak Out ,Khonthahed, Seeharhed and NangDarling   give  some comments to this topic then . I like to read Brother speak out  comments really make sense.

 

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         Any topics which are against the corrupted high rank government officials no one dare to comment expcept brother BLM , Lao kid , Dell, The Truth and Dreamer and now they are gone only comment as Anonymous.

 

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The post Laotian American live life to the extent was gone. Someone must break the rule so the webmaster got maid.

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. Where is BLM ?

My friend my answer for you is BLM is the same person as Khonthakek, Seeharhed, Nangdarling, Ganda, and Anonymous. In reality BLM is still here under different use-names.