Is God real or delusion ?

Date: Dec 30, 2009

RE: Is God real or delusion ?

tidak ada · Veteran Member

God is real but not plasticity, only those who believe that can feel the gods.

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Date: Dec 30, 2009

tidak ada wrote:

God is real but not plasticity, only those who believe that can feel the gods.

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Stop lie to yourself there are no one single evident that God is exist . God is very danger . More men kill each other over my God better than your God for thousand of years and if God is really exist why does God do something about it. End the suffering special young innocent children who are suffering in third world countries . Imagine what are in the mind of the suicidal bombers but God. God is delusion. Human being could be kind and peaceful and lovely and good heart without delusion and faith.

chiip · Guru

Yeah ! God never said he has built the universe but the Man who wrongly interpreted the will of God claimed it himself, not the God.Good exists or don't. no one knows that, the universe has 6000 year... no one can witness it no one were present when gsod created the universe, until now, scientists cannot know how many universe existing in the galaxy... at night, stare at the sky, you will see numerous of stars, do we know what is it's dimension ...no one can say that we are the only one intelligent creature in the galaxy.

Date: Dec 30, 2009

chiip wrote:

Yeah ! God never said he has built the universe but the Man who wrongly interpreted the will of God claimed it himself, not the God.Good exists or don't. no one knows that, the universe has 6000 year... no one can witness it no one were present when gsod created the universe, until now, scientists cannot know how many universe existing in the galaxy... at night, stare at the sky, you will see numerous of stars, do we know what is it's dimension ...no one can say that we are the only one intelligent creature in the galaxy.

You don't have to witness or be presented in the past to study and figure out what had happened - that's why we've scientists and universities.

There is no one schred of evidence to prove that god exist except in some men's writings. Common sense dictates that god doesn't exist.

Date: Dec 30, 2009

chip wrote:

Yeah ! God never said he has built the universe but the Man who wrongly interpreted the will of God claimed it himself, not the God.Good exists or don't. no one knows that, the universe has 6000 year... no one can witness it no one were present when god created the universe, until now, scientists cannot know how many universe existing in the galaxy... at night, stare at the sky, you will see numerous of stars, do we know what is it's dimension ...no one can say that we are the only one intelligent creature in the galaxy.

That is right there is no God that is the reason why God never said any thing but the people who claimed to say that the holly Bible ( Christian) and Koran ( Islam ) claimed that every things were written in the Bible and the Koran were the words of God who claimed that God was the one who created the world and the universe in 7days about 6000 years ago. There are hundred billions of stars like our sun in a galaxy and hundred trillions of galaxies in the universe . As you said no one know , there might be multiple universes as well . We could learn from the particle which is very small from the quark to the proton, nucleus , electron, atom to the black hole , dark matter and dark energy deep into the space that still could not prove that God is exist.

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

chip wrote:

Yeah ! God never said he has built the universe but the Man who wrongly interpreted the will of God claimed it himself, not the God.Good exists or don't. no one knows that, the universe has 6000 year... no one can witness it no one were present when god created the universe, until now, scientists cannot know how many universe existing in the galaxy... at night, stare at the sky, you will see numerous of stars, do we know what is it's dimension ...no one can say that we are the only one intelligent creature in the galaxy.

That is right there is no God that is the reason why God never said any thing but the people who claimed to say that the holly Bible ( Christian) and Koran ( Islam ) claimed that every things were written in the Bible and the Koran were the words of God who claimed that God was the one who created the world and the universe in 7days about 6000 years ago. There are hundred billions of stars like our sun in a galaxy and hundred trillions of galaxies in the universe . As you said no one know , there might be multiple universes as well . We could learn from the particle which is very small from the quark to the proton, nucleus , electron, atom to the black hole , dark matter and dark energy deep into the space that still could not prove that God is exist.

I wonder if there is god? How come bad people got more money and richer than good people earn money with honesty

Date: Dec 30, 2009

How come all religions were created by men but not women? Why oh why?

Date: Dec 30, 2009

but all that men not like woman

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

but all that men not like woman

There is no God if there is God so God must be both man and woman all in one but not gay because could not reproduce.

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:
I wonder if there is god? How come bad people got more money and richer than good people earn money with honesty

Hey Man , why you access the rich people to be bad man so there are a lot of good and king people are rich and there are bad people who are poor. The good people who are rich because they are working hard , intelligent , well educated and have brain and they earn their money . You are poor because you are uneducated , lazy and no brain. For the bad one who are rich because they are thieves , drug dealers, corrupted , stole the money from the country, taking bribes ,selling the country and betray the people and the country. You could assume that all rich people are bad. Every penny and dollars, they ear from working hard and from their brains. God have nothing to do with you are poor and why they are rich. That is none sense they are rich and you poor that is how intelligent they are just like the countries some countries are rich and some are poor because they have the good leader with brain if they have the leader who are corrupted and dictator who have no brain and do not know how earn money but corrupted and steal the country money. Then the people will have problems So there is god not that it up to you to be lazy and dumb and broke or to be well educated and successful with brain.

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Very simple you are well educated ,intelligent and working hard then you will be successful. If you are lazy uneducated , take it easy and no Brian and stupid of course you are going to poor and the loser all your life so don't wait fro God to give your money .

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Very simple you are well educated ,intelligent and working hard then you will be successful. If you are lazy uneducated , take it easy and no Brian and stupid of course you are going to poor and the loser all your life so don't wait fro God to give your money .

That's not true! I used to worked two jobs and go to college, I graduated for more than a year with bachelor degree in marketing, and I'm still waiting the tables at the same restaurant while I was in college.
A friend friend of mine who didn't even finish junior in high school is a loan officer a the bank , happy for him.
Now where is GOD?

Date: Dec 30, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Very simple you are well educated ,intelligent and working hard then you will be successful. If you are lazy uneducated , take it easy and no Brian and stupid of course you are going to poor and the loser all your life so don't wait fro God to give your money .

That's not true! I used to worked two jobs and go to college, I graduated for more than a year with bachelor degree in marketing, and I'm still waiting the tables at the same restaurant while I was in college.
A friend friend of mine who didn't even finish junior in high school is a loan officer a the bank , happy for him.
Now where is GOD?

Why do you keep asking God there is no God. So get your ass out there and pursue your dream and make it come true. bachelor degree today is nothing so let make sure you get Phd or at least master degree my friend. Stop complaining that there is no God. You want something so you have to earn it.

Date: Dec 31, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Very simple you are well educated ,intelligent and working hard then you will be successful. If you are lazy uneducated , take it easy and no Brian and stupid of course you are going to poor and the loser all your life so don't wait fro God to give your money .

That's not true! I used to worked two jobs and go to college, I graduated for more than a year with bachelor degree in marketing, and I'm still waiting the tables at the same restaurant while I was in college.
A friend friend of mine who didn't even finish junior in high school is a loan officer a the bank , happy for him.
Now where is GOD?

Why do you keep asking God there is no God. So get your ass out there and pursue your dream and make it come true. bachelor degree today is nothing so let make sure you get Phd or at least master degree my friend. Stop complaining that there is no God. You want something so you have to earn it.

I already earned my degree !!now I need God's help! if he exist?

Date: Dec 31, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

Very simple you are well educated ,intelligent and working hard then you will be successful. If you are lazy uneducated , take it easy and no Brian and stupid of course you are going to poor and the loser all your life so don't wait fro God to give your money .

That's not true! I used to worked two jobs and go to college, I graduated for more than a year with bachelor degree in marketing, and I'm still waiting the tables at the same restaurant while I was in college.
A friend friend of mine who didn't even finish junior in high school is a loan officer a the bank , happy for him.
Now where is GOD?

Why do you keep asking God there is no God. So get your ass out there and pursue your dream and make it come true. bachelor degree today is nothing so let make sure you get Phd or at least master degree my friend. Stop complaining that there is no God. You want something so you have to earn it.

I already earned my degree !!now I need God's help! if he exist?

There is no God , God is delusion , God is not exist. You have to help yourself.
your bachelor degree is no good , million of people graduated every years specially in marketing.

Date: Dec 31, 2009

So how about Buddha?

Date: Dec 31, 2009

Anonymous wrote:

So how about Buddha?

Buddha is not God . he did not claim that he created the world or any things. He taught the people to deal with the reality of life and understand the laws of nature to be born , grow old , sick and die. Meditation is the best mind therapy.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

If there is no God so there is no devil and Angel , no hell and heaven. People still conduct them in good manner with love and passion and happiness without faith and delusion.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So how about Buddha?

Buddha is not God . he did not claim that he created the world or any things. He taught the people to deal with the reality of life and understand the laws of nature to be born , grow old , sick and die. Meditation is the best mind therapy.

so what buddha still preach about heaven and hell and got all the help from angels and other stuff before becoming a buddha. some people worship his statute until today just like people worship mao ze tong until today, lenin until today buddha was just a good person that's all other than that he is nothing.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

So how about Buddha?

Buddha is not God . he did not claim that he created the world or any things. He taught the people to deal with the reality of life and understand the laws of nature to be born , grow old , sick and die. Meditation is the best mind therapy.

so what buddha still preach about heaven and hell and got all the help from angels and other stuff before becoming a buddha. some people worship his statute until today just like people worship mao ze tong until today, lenin until today buddha was just a good person that's all other than that he is nothing.

You did not read my comment and the topic about. I said Buddha is not God , don't you understand? I said God is delusion. I said That God is not exist. I said Buddha meditation is the best mind therapy and Buddha teaching how to deal with reality of life and to understand the laws of nature that to be born, grow old , sick and die . The Universe began from the big bang 13.7 billion years ago. I don't believe in any super natural power but science.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

Tricky question. If we perceive God as a physical being resemble us that we can see with our eyes and comprehend than it is delusional. If we perceive god as a concept, methodology, past/presents/future events then it is not delusional. God is meta.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

Depending on which branch of Buddhism you follow, Buddha is perceive as being of great power beyond that of human. He was not perceive as God. Lao suppose to follow the Theravada branch of Buddhism. This true form of this branch does not perceive Buddha as such but only "enlightened". However, Therevadism got mixed up with Brahmism, Spiritualism, and Hinduism when it came to Lao.

Date: Jan 1, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

You did not read my comment and the topic about. I said Buddha is not God , don't you understand? I said God is delusion. I said That God is not exist. I said Buddha meditation is the best mind therapy and Buddha teaching how to deal with reality of life and to understand the laws of nature that to be born, grow old , sick and die . The Universe began from the big bang 13.7 billion years ago. I don't believe in any super natural power but science.

so how you explain buddha made 7 stepts just right after he was born? it happened by itself? no supreme being behind it? many top sicientists never dismissed creation but you? biggrin

Date: Jan 2, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

You did not read my comment and the topic about. I said Buddha is not God , don't you understand? I said God is delusion. I said That God is not exist. I said Buddha meditation is the best mind therapy and Buddha teaching how to deal with reality of life and to understand the laws of nature that to be born, grow old , sick and die . The Universe began from the big bang 13.7 billion years ago. I don't believe in any super natural power but science.

so how you explain buddha made 7 stepts just right after he was born? it happened by itself? no supreme being behind it? many top sicientists never dismissed creation but you?

That is not the truth. It is just the myth. The believers made up many miracle stories of super natural .The christian and the Muslim are also have their own miracle stories which could not be proven by science. In the old day when the people see this video that fish and frog living without water for at least 4 to 7 years still alive they might call miracle.

So God did not create the world and the universe in 7days like the Christian and the Muslim claimed.

Date: Jan 2, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You did not read my comment and the topic about. I said Buddha is not God , don't you understand? I said God is delusion. I said That God is not exist. I said Buddha meditation is the best mind therapy and Buddha teaching how to deal with reality of life and to understand the laws of nature that to be born, grow old , sick and die . The Universe began from the big bang 13.7 billion years ago. I don't believe in any super natural power but science.

so how you explain buddha made 7 stepts just right after he was born? it happened by itself? no supreme being behind it? many top sicientists never dismissed creation but you?

That is not the truth. It is just the myth. The believers made up many miracle stories of super natural .The christian and the Muslim are also have their own miracle stories which could not be proven by science. In the old day when the people see this video that fish and frog living without water for at least 4 to 7 years still alive they might call miracle.

So God did not create the world and the universe in 7days like the Christian and the Muslim claimed.

It does not matter how mandays creation took what matter is creator somewhere some how. you can't be here by accident and human can't be smarter than anymal by accident and buddha made 7 steps is well written in the history.

Date: Jan 3, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

You did not read my comment and the topic about. I said Buddha is not God , don't you understand? I said God is delusion. I said That God is not exist. I said Buddha meditation is the best mind therapy and Buddha teaching how to deal with reality of life and to understand the laws of nature that to be born, grow old , sick and die . The Universe began from the big bang 13.7 billion years ago. I don't believe in any super natural power but science.

so how you explain buddha made 7 stepts just right after he was born? it happened by itself? no supreme being behind it? many top sicientists never dismissed creation but you?

That is not the truth. It is just the myth. The believers made up many miracle stories of super natural .The christian and the Muslim are also have their own miracle stories which could not be proven by science. In the old day when the people see this video that fish and frog living without water for at least 4 to 7 years still alive they might call miracle.

So God did not create the world and the universe in 7days like the Christian and the Muslim claimed.

It does not matter how mandays creation took what matter is creator somewhere some how. you can't be here by accident and human can't be smarter than anymal by accident and buddha made 7 steps is well written in the history.

None sense .

Date: Jan 4, 2010

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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

Date: Jan 4, 2010

Anonymous wrote:



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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

God still has God.

Date: Jan 5, 2010

Anonymous wrote:



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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

not a circle

Date: Jan 5, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:



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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

     Science my assss. no science will believe in reincarnation like buddha. any person with minimum brain will laugh at reincarnation. you die you come back and you might be human? or anymal?

Date: Jan 7, 2010

Anonymous wrote



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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

     Science my access. no science will believe in reincarnation like buddha. any person with minimum brain will laugh at reincarnation. you die you come back and you might be human? or animal?

Think my friend , If there are Quantum physics and string theory and M theory then it is possible . Think about the black hole, dark matter and dark energy and the universe is expending my friend . Power of the mind that would possibly travel as fast as the speed of light or much more fast than the speed of light. Think about how big the universe is and how small the atom, nucleus , proton, neutron and quark . The universe start 13.7 billions ago after the big bang So what was beyond the big bang .

Date: Jan 7, 2010

Anonymous wrote



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     Reincarnation is     E =MC        Mass could turn to energy and energy could also turn to mass. That is circle of nature . There is matter and also anti-matter and one could not exist without the other.That is Buddhism. The reality of nature . There is no super natural power but pure science.

     Science my access. no science will believe in reincarnation like buddha. any person with minimum brain will laugh at reincarnation. you die you come back and you might be human? or animal?

           Think my friend , If there are Quantum physics and string theory and M theory then it is possible . Think about the black hole, dark matter and dark energy and the universe is expending my friend . Power of the mind that would possibly travel as fast as the speed of light or much more fast than the speed of light. Think about how big the universe is and how small the atom, nucleus , proton, neutron and quark . The universe start 13.7 billions ago after the big bang So what was beyond the big bang .

E=mc2 , Energy could turn to mass and also mass could turn back to energy.
Our sun have been burning for 4.5 billion years so one day our sun will run out the nucleus fusion then that will be the end .

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Dark Angel · Guru

There are no prove of any super natural power and magic but faith. Only the law of nature and law of physics . There is no reincarnation of what so ever when you are dead, you are finished unless you have been chrome and transfered your memory and your personality to your new brain. So God is delusion.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Tuesday 7th of December 2010 03:12:12 AM

samurai · Newbie

Anonymous wrote:
If there are no God why a lot of people are killing each other over my God is better than your God for thousand of years. And how 's about the suicide bombers they believe after they commit suicide by killing themselves and other their will be 40 virgin waiting for them in the paradise.

I thing you are cristian and hate islam so much.did you know haw many people die in iraq coz of american army and said sadam have danger weapon?? till now no body can proff that weapon is exist???how about civilian in afganistan??fakistan kill by wrong target misile???how about civilian murder in palestine by american help to israel???this over 5 years almost 2 million inocent islam civilian die becouse american troop and some euro country army and most of them is christian.they kill civilian by under mistake attack terorism.do you thing islam civilian blood is nothing???only euro or american blood is value????LIfe is karma.if you did so many bad thing in past.you ll get bad thing in the future.its for every one.dont used any religion for say bad thing dude.

Lao Isan · Senior Member

Some scientist say Alien is god. They're the one who created humane through DNA. Even now people know about DNA technology and how to clone people, animals. Whatever we know the alien know way more and they're more advanced. Look up "ancient alien" in YouTube if think I'm crazy.

eye_sky · Guru

The issue about the Almighty rests solely on every individual's faith, and I believe that science and "religion" should never collide.

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/01/bistro-better-makatis-intimately.html

Dark Angel · Guru

There is no proof that God is exist . Big Bang and the law of physics and the law of nature and right and wrong , good and evil that is the reality. One day when human are so advance and able to travel back in time and become the god to the cave man and in-planed the test tube baby to the virgin women and became the mother of the son of the god. Could the cave man would understand the technology one millions years from now? so could the monkey our ancestor understand the space and atom , molecule , electron , proton , nuclear , dark energy , dark matter and black hold . So it would take millions of years fro those monkey to understand perhaps billions of years. God is delusion knowledge is the god.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Friday 7th of January 2011 12:16:30 PM

Lao Isan · Senior Member

Dark Angle. You're right on the money. They are working on time machine. They also have technology to control weather. You ever hear of "HAARP" a weather weapon that can control drough, rain, ternodo. Check out YouTube.

Lao Isan · Senior Member

If mankind have technology to do what god does. Then what's the use of god.

Matt · Member

There are millions of gos but there is only true God and Satan and his evil are enemies of true God, you can find out in the Bible what is his name of true God who created all mankind, if you like to know the truth about this matter, please learn more in the Bible for sure in believing anything, also, you are warmed welcome to visite official website www.watchtower.org . Good blessing to whom it may concern God or Satan.

your respectfully,

Dark Angel · Guru

Matt wrote:

There are millions of gos but there is only true God and Satan and his evil are enemies of true God, you can find out in the Bible what is his name of true God who created all mankind, if you like to know the truth about this matter, please learn more in the Bible for sure in believing anything, also, you are warmed welcome to visite official website www.watchtower.org . Good blessing to whom it may concern God or Satan.

your respectfully,

Who is the the truth God ? God of Holly Christian bible who claimed to created the earth and the universe in 7 days and the earth is only 6000 years old? Is that the true God ? Or Alla that is OK to murder none Muslim . The religions is the enemy of the humanity civilization and the progress of science. The reality is right and wrong , love and hate , good and evil that is the law of nature and the law of physics.