narongchai_thi wrote:

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I have a question.

You always say that Thai Siam and Thai Chinese look down on the poor Thai Isan. I think so. but just some of them do that, not all of Thai Siam or Thai Chinese.

However, it happens everywhere that some rich people look down on poor people >>> US or Korea or Japan.

rich people in Laos never diss poor people ? Don't mention the topic about Siam invading Laos in the past. Now, it's not about the race. it's about the attitude of rich people. Do rich people in your country look down on poor people ?

-- Edited by narongchai_thi on Tuesday 26th of January 2010 12:28:19 AM

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          Hey my friend narongchia this will be my last confrontation with you on this topic as brother BLM has told me.
          As you know why I am so concern about the Thai politic and you know that my  family and a lot of relatives
          are Thai citizen and also are still living in Esan.  Yes and of course , there are a lot of good and kind Thai Chinese
          and Thai Siamese , good and bad , discrimination  against the poor people  every where in the world.  But racism
         between the Thai Chinese and Esan people. Even there are only a few by name calling and making jokes of the Laotian
         and the Esan people on the national TV comedy program and newspaper  that are different from one individual person.
         I also truly understand that Thailand is the free country and every citizen have the right of exercising their right of 
         free speech. Because of injustice system , unfair , discrimination , racism and double standard that are the reasons
         why the Esan people  and poor Thai people are standing up and become the red shirt and demand for democracy
         one and for all . Thaksin was the first prime minister who truly understood the poor who provided the cheap and 
         universal affordable heath care and welfare relief fund for the poor who are really needed. That is the reason why 
         Esan people love him and voted for him and miss him and are willing to fight and sacrifice for democracy  and to
         bring Mr Thaksin back otherwise there will  be a long fight and no peace until Thailand becomes the true democracy.
         You are wrong that you have said that Thaksin is not loyal to the king and joined with some communist  
        professors and Esan people to fight and destroy monarchy and make Thailand to become Republic . That is not 
        the truth. The red shirt  are fighting for the true democracy which they have never had in Thailand.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Tuesday 26th of January 2010 01:46:42 PM

Dark Angel wrote:

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          Hey my friend narongchia this will be my last confrontation with you on this topic as brother BLM has told me.
          As you know why I am so concern about the Thai politic and you know that my  family and a lot of relatives
          are Thai citizen and also are still living in Esan.  Yes and of course , there are a lot of good and kind Thai Chinese
          and Thai Siamese , good and bad , discrimination  against the poor people  every where in the world.  But racism
         between the Thai Chinese and Esan people. Even there are only a few by name calling and making jokes of the Laotian
         and the Esan people on the national TV comedy program and newspaper  that are different from one individual person.
         I also truly understand that Thailand is the free country and every citizen have the right of exercising their right of 
         free speech. Because of injustice system , unfair , discrimination , racism and double standard that are the reasons
         why the Esan people  and poor Thai people are standing up and become the red shirt and demand for democracy
         one and for all . Thaksin was the first prime minister who truly understood the poor who provided the cheap and 
         universal affordable heath care and welfare relief fund for the poor who are really needed. That is the reason why 
         Esan people love him and voted for him and miss him and are willing to fight and sacrifice for democracy  and to
         bring Mr Thaksin back otherwise there will  be a long fight and no peace until Thailand becomes the true democracy.
         You are wrong that you have said that Thaksin is not loyal to the king and joined with some communist  
        professors and Esan people to fight and destroy monarchy and make Thailand to become Republic . That is not 
        the truth. The red shirt  are fighting for the true democracy which they have never had in Thailand.

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Tuesday 26th of January 2010 01:46:42 PM

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This is your summary right, becuse it covers all of your idea in only one paragraph.  I can say that in Thailand most people always blame the other Thais when they are looking down on Laos.  Moreover, That case is a rare case right now.  Moreover, the Thai Isan also make fun of Thai Chinese too.  For example, calling Thai Chinese as "Jek" or making fun about the small eye or making fun of the Thai chinenes's accent.

I also prove already that Thaksin is not loyal to tha king.  If he is loyal, why did he say that the King know and permit the coup plot.

Look at the election for MP in Prachin Buri and Mahasarakham, you may learn that Tha popularity of Thaksin in Isan area deminish constantly.  Moreover, my mother confirm it that the Isan People in my hometown are satisfied with the policy by Mr Abhisit.

In my opinion, the yellow shirt is too stubborn and aggressive, but they do for the king.  However, the red shirts are is reallya terrorist.  The red shirts kill people, burned and riotted in Bangkok last year.  They always blame the KING both direstly and indirect >>>> Gile Unpakorn and the others.  How can they fight for the true democracy with the fire bomb and violent harashment ?  How can they fight for the true democracy under the lead of some communist guys lke Gile Unpakorn.

Isan People love Thaksin ..... ???? really ????? In my hometown some native Thai Isan hate Thaksin, some are the yellow shirts.  You can not use the word "Isan People", because there are still a lot of Isan people against Thaksin. 

 Moreover, I also prove to you that the supreme court in Thailand is fair.  However, the red shirts always think that the supreme court is fair only in the case that the court do some favor to Thaksin.  If the supreme court judge Thaksin as guilty, then the red shirts say that it is unfair, double standard and discrimination.  Do you think you understand the Thai politics or Thai justice system well.  Please check it again andagian.  I think you do not understand the system in my country so well because you are a Lao citizen.  Even your father is Thai Isan, but this does not guarantee that you understand it well.  It is because a lot Isan people still do not understand what 's really going on.  some of them do not even look at the newspaper, even they have TV, they are not interested in Political news or any informative channel.  Some of Isan people said that they dont have a chance to survive.   Come on guy, my grandparents migrated from China with nothing.  Now he has a lot of money, because he is hard-working.  He works and do everything (legal) to find more money.  That's why I can say that some Isan people are lazy; however, the other Isan People are really hard-working like MUM JOKMOK.  actually, I pay respect to MUM JOKMOK for being hard-working to breakaway from poverty.

YOu alwayssay that Thaksin is seeking for true democracy.  Actually, true democracy comes with a bunch of investigation.  Look at UK and USA, there are much more investigation than in Thailand.  WHen Thaksin was the Prime Minister, he had never gone to the parliament when asked by the MP for his policy-implementation investigstion.  He paid a lot of money to a lot MP and Senators to take a control over the Parliament to enact the Law that does favor to his cell-phone company.  Do you still think that this is called "true democracy".  I dont think so.
I think you need times, trying to understand the topic in the other countries.  It is the same as me still have a question in my min about the people in a country that has no the freedom of speech.  You need to try to understand the others attitude too.  When I talked about how much Thaksin corrupted and mention about the data an statistics, you rejected it unreasonablely.  This mean that you are hurt when talking about the real data, because it ruin your belief.  it's wuite obvious.  Moreover, Thaksin never mention and answer anone about these data rasied by his opponents and the yellow shirts.

OK

Thanks for sharing

-- Edited by narongchai_thi on Tuesday 26th of January 2010 02:32:42 PM

There will be more trouble in Thailand.