Laos To Spend 200 Billion Kip On New Resettlement Site for Repatriated Hmongs

Zak · Senior Member

Laos To Spend 200 Billion Kip On New Resettlement Site for Repatriated Hmongs

khonthakek · Guru

Those money come from international org and human right , i think the gov should spend more for resettlement,

TSP · Senior Member

Zak wrote:

http://www.voanews.com/lao/2010-02-24-voa7.cfm

Laos To Spend 200 Billion Kip On New Resettlement Site for Repatriated Hmongs

By Songrit Pongern

Bangkok, Thailand
24/02/2010

The government of Laos expects to spend up to 200 billion kip on a new resettlement site it is building for the Hmong refugees repatriated last year from Thailand. Construction is expected to be finished at the end of 2010. The returnees, meanwhile, reaffirm that they will remain in Laos permanently and become good citizens of the country.

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I don't get this. Why would the Lao government want to spend soooooo much on people that did not even want to stay in the country? The best thing to do would be to let them go. The money can go to the Lao people that actually live in the country, not to ones that wish to migrate elsewhere.

Is 200 billion correct? That's nearly 23 million USD.

To some extent, you are right. Those people who always stay in Laos have never gotten anything for free from Lao government.

However, I feel Lao goverment has no other choice but to make these people feel that Laos is better than USA. Otherwise, they would stay in Thailand and come back to fight and and kill Lao people because some bad people support them.

Date: Mar 14, 2010

Zak wrote:

http://www.voanews.com/lao/2010-02-24-voa7.cfm

Laos To Spend 200 Billion Kip On New Resettlement Site for Repatriated Hmongs
By Songrit Pongern
Bangkok, Thailand
24/02/2010

The government of Laos expects to spend up to 200 billion kip on a new resettlement site it is building for the Hmong refugees repatriated last year from Thailand. Construction is expected to be finished at the end of 2010. The returnees, meanwhile, reaffirm that they will remain in Laos permanently and become good citizens of the country.

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I don't get this. Why would the Lao government want to spend soooooo much on people that did not even want to stay in the country? The best thing to do would be to let them go. The money can go to the Lao people that actually live in the country, not to ones that wish to migrate elsewhere.

Is 200 billion correct? That's nearly 23 million USD.

First of all , they, lao government got a presure from International human right groups. a UN commissioners and as well as from the U.S. representatives. these people keep an eye on lao government very closely. just to make sure that,there's no persecution when returnees go back home. Second of all, i do not believe all of our lao-Hmong really leaved the country because of war persecuted. In my personal opinion, most of them leaved because of economy hardship. and got promised by the (midleman) that they would be resettlement in the thirth countries if they pay them big money. Don't get me wrong, i acknowledeged that there's still some harassment from the lao soldiers. especially, to the wars veterans that left over from Vietnam war in Bansaysomboun(Special-zone as they called it in laos) that's why we saw lao and Hmong war veterans goes to the washington DC every summer to protest the PDR government to stop persecuted laoHmong in Bansaysomboun. so as for our laoHmong who just returned from thailand recently, the UN spent big money on them to compensated for returning home. lao government provided the land for them and their family.and i do not believe that lao government have 200 hundred billion kips to spent on returnees. but help from the UN and other organizations..

chiip · Guru

You are right my dear So hehe ! it is a very big piece of poison that the lao government have to swallow and not to give up ! oh ! my god, when lao gvernment is no more in measure to help them they will go back to grow poppy and we'll see the beautiful and colorful mountains colored by poppy flowers... another publicity of attracting foreign tourists to taste the young poppy leaves Hahaha ! young back packers from all over the world would want to try the taste and the smell of raw and newly gathered opium and our country will be an uncomparable place like heaven on earth in this world...May the Lord Full of Power give me enough longivity to see it. Satou ! ! Hahaha ! don't be silly, let's claim to the Grand Priest Barakum Obamum who is powerful priest in term of Financial matter a credit agreement with long very long term loan, let us say 2 or three billions USD without interest to contending with the poppy growers and divert them to do other businesses as... opium dealer ! Hehehe !common Mr. So! let 's cheer !

Zak · Senior Member

SO wrote:

First of all , they, lao government got a presure from International human right groups. a UN commissioners and as well as from the U.S. representatives. these people keep an eye on lao government very closely. just to make sure that,there's no persecution when returnees go back home. Second of all, i do not believe all of our lao-Hmong really leaved the country because of war persecuted. In my personal opinion, most of them leaved because of economy hardship. and got promised by the (midleman) that they would be resettlement in the thirth countries if they pay them big money. Don't get me wrong, i acknowledeged that there's still some harassment from the lao soldiers. especially, to the wars veterans that left over from Vietnam war in Bansaysomboun(Special-zone as they called it in laos) that's why we saw lao and Hmong war veterans goes to the washington DC every summer to protest the PDR government to stop persecuted laoHmong in Bansaysomboun. so as for our laoHmong who just returned from thailand recently, the UN spent big money on them to compensated for returning home. lao government provided the land for them and their family.and i do not believe that lao government have 200 hundred billion kips to spent on returnees. but help from the UN and other organizations..

I agree with you. It was a total migration for economic purposes. If they were truly being prosecuted, they would not have ran in such large numbers. I mean, if they ran in such large numbers, its easy target for an army to spot and harass. I'll also agree that there is probably still harassment of veterans going on.

If it is true that the UN and U.S. Representatives are lobbying the Lao government to return them, probably because they don't wish to have the Hmong move to a third country (so it doesn't have the population start doing the same), they why does the whole of the world keep insisting that there is some kind of "special arrangement" between the Lao and Thai governments to send these people back? Why do they constantly keep making the Lao government look bad? Honestly, there is something missing from the big picture here.

Date: Mar 16, 2010

Honestly, there is something missing from the big picture here

The only thing missing is an informed reader. The internet allows you to read information sources from around the world, why don't you? There's no reason for remaining ignorant in the age of the internet. Set your google news filter to "hmong" or "laos" and just read all the stories that go by and make up your own mind.

The Hmong have been fleeing Laos for 30 years now to refugee camps in Thailand. The wounds the Hmong show up with are consistant with those from land mines and gunshot wounds from AK. Maybe they are just shooting themselves? Laos has a problem, the sooner the Lao people admit that they have a problem the sooner it will get fixed. Making believe the problem is that people leave because they want to make more money won't get rid of the problem.

There has been an admirable effort to include minotity people into the larger Lao society, it's time to include those who formerly fought against the Lap PDR regime and include them too.

The repatriated Lao Hmong are in jail, they are not free to come and go, so that's what they are living in for the time being, a jail. To jail a few thousand people isn't cheap.

Zak · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Honestly, there is something missing from the big picture here

The only thing missing is an informed reader. The internet allows you to read information sources from around the world, why don't you? There's no reason for remaining ignorant in the age of the internet. Set your google news filter to "hmong" or "laos" and just read all the stories that go by and make up your own mind.

The Hmong have been fleeing Laos for 30 years now to refugee camps in Thailand. The wounds the Hmong show up with are consistant with those from land mines and gunshot wounds from AK. Maybe they are just shooting themselves? Laos has a problem, the sooner the Lao people admit that they have a problem the sooner it will get fixed. Making believe the problem is that people leave because they want to make more money won't get rid of the problem.

There has been an admirable effort to include minotity people into the larger Lao society, it's time to include those who formerly fought against the Lap PDR regime and include them too.

The repatriated Lao Hmong are in jail, they are not free to come and go, so that's what they are living in for the time being, a jail. To jail a few thousand people isn't cheap.

What are you trying to get at? Isn't it economically more sound to let these people go rather than to spend 23 million dollars on them?

You say to include, but if the people don't want to be included, why force them? Why in turn drag them back to the country only to spend more money on them?

It doesn't matter WHY they wanted to leave. The issue in this thread is that the government has decided to use 23 million dollars from somewhere on them. I don't see it reasonable. Should have let them go instead.

chiip · Guru

Yeah! right Zak, we have the same though but by the fact that those hmongs were rapatriated and relocated in somewhere in vientiane province ...relocating them with normal facilities is not easy at all for those who do not want to return to laos. the government who is already very poor has to spend extra money for it...I really don't understand...

NaijaiQuanjai · Veteran Member

chiip wrote:

Yeah! right Zak, we have the same though but by the fact that those hmongs were rapatriated and relocated in somewhere in vientiane province ...relocating them with normal facilities is not easy at all for those who do not want to return to laos. the government who is already very poor has to spend extra money for it...I really don't understand...

I think the Lao Government is trying to change Laos perception to the world. Since Laos has been opening up to business and investor. And also, wanting to joining the WTO in that case. Laos is taking things a bit caution to a more global international stage with the rest of ASEAN aswell.

As you can see today, Laos have been working and building relationship with many nation. And it is the frist step to show Laos is a place for business oportunity and greater.

-- Edited by NaijaiQuanjai on Thursday 18th of March 2010 07:14:51 AM

Laos2beLaos · Senior Member

No matter what we do to these people, Hmong in America never be happy with us. They do everything to make our Lao Gov. look bad.

Destined · Senior Member

Laos2beLaos wrote:

No matter what we do to these people, Hmong in America never be happy with us. They do everything to make our Lao Gov. look bad.

agreed..