I am afraid that one day and in due time, they might end up having last names Nguyen, Pham, Tham, Phuc, gook, guck. The sharp round brown eyes truly represents the beauty of Laotian. I would hate to see these girls become concubine to wealthy Viets whose residency in Laos are based on implicit, tactical control and occupation by their government from which some ordinary Laotians are tacitly grieved.
We all know Laos is a sovereign country but its autonomy is being compromised just as it had always been since the beginning of time. Foreign interference, invasion and annexation are not something peace-loving Laotian unheard of. If recent past history is any indication of painful experiences a country had faced when Siamese violently ransacked Vientiane then the answer is a resounding yes.The whole Lan Xang Kingdom was under Siamese control until the French came into Indo China and demanded possession of Laos. Isn't that how we still have Laos today. Regretfully, only 16 provinces were granted to the French because Siamese adroitly negotiated to keep the other 16, which is called Issan at the present time. History has repeated itself. Laos is given just enough room to maneuver its domestic and foreign policy with Viet gooks from the north acting in ascendency but let's not to say that Laos has its full autonomy. I have no doubt that Laos will be removed from the list of poorest country as its economy progressively improves. However, Laos will not ever reach its full potential.
The emaciated Minh Ji Ho physically minute with sizable brain had a broad vision long before unification with South Vietnam about conquering Laos and Kampuchea, pillaging and killing people in the name of liberation. Its intention is to stay in Laos and Cambodia at any cost insofar as ensuring these 2 great nations are under its orbit. The minute Minh Ji Ho had learned from recent history of Established Imperial Powers and Rising Imperial Powers such as Japan, Germany, England, USSR, and the United States. The practices and policies of the former serve as guides to the latter and skinny Ho had comprehended well before passing on to his successors. Viet gooks emerged from the war rising as a predominant power in Southeast Asia from which it initially suffered greatly. And With the demise of Union Soviet Socialist and the conversion of China into a dynamic capitalist nation, Viets followed the suit as Laos made its long stride from behind. The pillage and transfer of natural resources from Laos to Vietnam are clear indications of its hegemonic empire. It is not just a one-shot windfall in plundering Lao People Democratic, but a long term goal in enriching its people at home as well as those who are in Laos. I can only hope the Lord is listening to my prayer.
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BLM im glad we see eye to eye on most parts but i do have to disagree with you when you said "laos since the beginning of time its autonomy was always compromised" i have to admit i am a little nationalistic when i say this, but we were for at least 600 years or so ruling our own nation and even had enough power to influence other nations where they would be paying tribute to us. with that being said and off my chest..
i agree ho chi mang always wanted this from the begining he preaches brotherhood while in reality wants to be the dominater and ruling ethnic in south east asia. Laos being left alone would reach our full potential yess i agree. sadly we cant get rid of this infestation the only way i see us getting rid of this is china coming in and playing a larger role but would that just be replacing one infestaiton with antoher. these are thigns i ponder as well and im glad im not only one. however i am confused as to say how is vietnam holding on to laos and cambodian so tightly when in their own country are having problems? economicaly and poitically....
i would also like to mention that vietnam was also well positioned for becoming the predominant SEA power next to thailand when the french came in they gave the viets more power in Laos laying out the foundation for what we have now. so i surely do not believe they had come this far by theri own powers i can only hpe that they are weaking while we are getting stronger.
economics and educatoin is all we can move forward in for now and hopefully the tides will turn in our favor once again. then we can fully be a self governing nation.
I am pretty sure at certain point in time, Laos had had its heyday and the reason I said its autonomy was constantly being compromised since the beginning of time was merely a figure of speech.Reaching out to China is not really a bad thing. There's a time you need to choose the lesser of the two evils. A strong democratic Laos with multiparty will not serve the interest of Vietnam. Cambodia for example, is currently declaring military tie with China. This is what Hanoi dreads most about Laos. A demand to send young Laotians to study Marxism/Leninism in North Vietnam manifested its resolute determination to keep Laos under its orbit. What an incidental manner for domestic media to extremely glorify the relations between Vietnam and Laos, from friendship to investment, and from political alliance to political allegiance if not an all out effort in justifying their dominance in Laotian Affairs. Of course, there are people benefiting from it but the sky also has its limit and for Laos to reach its full potential, can only be a wishful thinking.Majority of Laotian came from peasant family background. It won't take much for them to be content with their lives. The government knew it, so did Vietnam.
As their country is on the rise, patriotism and nationalism grow quite strong and the belief in military primacy over Southeast Asia has become national objective leading to the ascendancy of hardliners who would spare no mercy in crushing down any uprising inside Laos, should that eventuality ever occur and let's make no mistake on that.
I also heard about border demarcation between Lao officials and their Vietnamese counterparts but there was no third party involved in the process. I wouldn't be surprised if a sizable portion of land is annexed either through corruption or from under pressure of loyalty. They inducted capitalist economic system under the supervision of communist party and turned their economy outward, invited foreign capital to provide some technology, at the same time expanding their markets overseas while restraining control over the financial sectors and other strategic industries. And their economy is way ahead of Laos.
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I heard that the curent president is half Vietnamese? If this's the case , I have a feeling that there is a possibility Laos will most likely to have stonger tide with Vietnam then China. I'm hopping BLM or anyone else can prove me wrong, it scares me to think about this kind of possibility.
Hey brother BLM2010 WHO BUILT AMERICA ? WHY AMERICA SO SUCCESSFUL ? SOMETIME I'M VERY CONFUSING ABOUT YOUR STAND. YOU SOMETIME PRAISED THE CHINA THIS AND CHINA THAT. BUT YOU SEEM TO BE AFRAID VIETNAMESE TO TAKE OVER LAOS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN COMMUNISTCHINA AND COMMUNIST VIETNAM ? PEOPLE LIKE ME IS VERY CONFUSING ON YOUR STAND RIGHT NOW..
Hey brother BLM2010 WHO BUILT AMERICA ? WHY AMERICA SO SUCCESSFUL ? SOMETIME I'M VERY CONFUSING ABOUT YOUR STAND. YOU SOMETIME PRAISED THE CHINA THIS AND CHINA THAT. BUT YOU SEEM TO BE AFRAID VIETNAMESE TO TAKE OVER LAOS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN COMMUNISTCHINA AND COMMUNIST VIETNAM ? PEOPLE LIKE ME IS VERY CONFUSING ON YOUR STAND RIGHT NOW..
I don't see the reason why you should be confused. If I'm reading BLM right he is more inclined to China from the very beginning. That is understood because comparing the two China is more socialist now than communist, while Vietnam is still more inclined with communism. China also is more economically stronger and has develop more stronger ties to western, european, african and asian countries than the Views. Currently,despite global financial crises, China is still pushing through. Both China and Vietnam have vested interest in Laos. Both are good in terms of military tactics. Both are marrying with Lao nais. Both are gradually taking over Lao land; China in the north; Viets in the south. Both are dominating commerce and industry in Laos, but it is China that can offer more financial stability. Unless other key players can establish a stronghold in Laos, like the US for example, those two countries will continue to penetrate and exploit Laos to a certain degree.
As BLM said its a matter of choosing the lesser evil. I think in the context of which of the two can offer better reward despite of gradually taking influence/ control of Laos internal affairs. China seems to be the likely choice.
Will Laos be able to play its cards well. Only time can tell.
Hey brother BLM2010 WHO BUILT AMERICA ? WHY AMERICA SO SUCCESSFUL ? SOMETIME I'M VERY CONFUSING ABOUT YOUR STAND. YOU SOMETIME PRAISED THE CHINA THIS AND CHINA THAT. BUT YOU SEEM TO BE AFRAID VIETNAMESE TO TAKE OVER LAOS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN COMMUNISTCHINA AND COMMUNIST VIETNAM ? PEOPLE LIKE ME IS VERY CONFUSING ON YOUR STAND RIGHT NOW..
America is a country of immigrants originally founded by White Settlers who spoke different languages; therefore, Americans are people of all races. The only contribution to the development of a country at the time from non-Whites was strictly labors. Take history classes from any community college such as Ethnicity or Humanity, you would understand. I don't blame you for questioning my stance but as I said earlier, there has to be time that we must choose the lesser of the two evils. The other anonymous who replied you seemed to apprehend my point quite well. China is not merely a communist state but with wielding veto power in hands gradually and steadily playing crucial roles in world politics, and economy unless you want to dismiss this reality. Statement of facts can be viewed as either praise or criticism and that's where your confusions are when reading my posts.For instance, China is quite brutal with its own people, but quite susceptible to outside observation. It would not hesitate to express indignation when being portrayed by the West as a threat to its neighbors. Its leaders often proclaim the rise of China is an opportunity and its relations with neighbors are based on mutual benefits considering it as a win-win for both sides. Therefore, I don't believe China would be so inclined to bully Laos at least not in the same level as North Viets because that would only justify the West's assertion of its hegemonic tendency. You tell me if you know the other possibility that Laos can have its full autonomy and democratically govern its own people based on its own sovereign rights without having someone keeps reminding, "Who's the boss?"
China would definitely face strong condemnation by international community especially the U.S if its action deemed oppressive towards Laotians whereas Viet gooks would only get away with murder. I am not aware of any incident in recent history that Chinese army ever entered Laos' territory only the gooks from the north invaded Laos numerous times then lied to the world after stationing Pathet Lao soldiers. Frankly, I think Laos should find every opportunity whenever it can to lessen its dependency on Vietnam and reach out to China if no other country can't be supplanted or supplemented. In addition, China did not challenge or borrow the US model of military driven empire building; even less does it look at Japanese or German approach to defy Washington. Its dynamic growth is driven by economic competitiveness, market relations guided by a developmental state and a willingness to borrow, learn, emulate, duplicate, innovate and expand internally as well as overseas displacing others' market supremacy in various regions. Ironically, Vietnam will absorb and rob Laos to its grave. I do not have a problem with Vietnamese Laotians who have been there for centuries. In my opinion, they are Laotian by nationality and Vietnamese by ethnicity.By the way, I had also heard that the former Royal Majesties, the King and the Queen refused to leave his country after the fall of Lan Xang due to self-stigmatizing as a great dishonor later succumbed to death after constant humiliation in the hands of his very own people.
Excitedly, I had a dream last night that I was a groom in traditional Lao clothes while my bride was in traditional attires but it was only to my great sorrow after waking up, I realized that was just a dream.
Wao, very good written by you Bro. But, i think you're worrying too much about Viet-Gooks Mr Brucelee(BLM2010). This is not the 50-60-or early70 where Vietminh viewed Laos operationally as an extention of their battlefield against the French in Tonkin, Annam, and Cochinchina, A brief review of the engagements of the Indochina war that affected Laos directly is necessary. and of course, we as laoNoks, who lived outside the country. Acknowledged that they the (PDR) still incorporated in a high level security and defense with Viet-gooks. Imagine that if they the(PDR) do not Corporated with North Vietnam. Who do you think lao will be the next prey ? Siam!!!!. if they're not afraid of the word'' Communist,'' they probably Suap Ao long time ago...
Wao, very good written by you Bro. But, i think you're worrying too much about Viet-Gooks Mr Brucelee(BLM2010). This is not the 50-60-or early70 where Vietminh viewed Laos operationally as an extention of their battlefield against the French in Tonkin, Annam, and Cochinchina, A brief review of the engagements of the Indochina war that affected Laos directly is necessary. and of course, we as laoNoks, who lived outside the country. Acknowledged that they the (PDR) still incorporated in a high level security and defense with Viet-gooks. Imagine that if they the(PDR) do not Corporated with North Vietnam. Who do you think lao will be the next prey ? Siam!!!!. if they're not afraid of the word'' Communist,'' they probably Suap Ao long time ago...
I shared the same concern the kind of influence Vietnam have on Laos and Lao people. Who's to say that they will not swalow Laos the way Siam did in the past! The way Vietnam wil do is by marrying Lao people is a start....
Wao, very good written by you Bro. But, i think you're worrying too much about Viet-Gooks Mr Brucelee(BLM2010). This is not the 50-60-or early70 where Vietminh viewed Laos operationally as an extention of their battlefield against the French in Tonkin, Annam, and Cochinchina, A brief review of the engagements of the Indochina war that affected Laos directly is necessary. and of course, we as laoNoks, who lived outside the country. Acknowledged that they the (PDR) still incorporated in a high level security and defense with Viet-gooks. Imagine that if they the(PDR) do not Corporated with North Vietnam. Who do you think lao will be the next prey ? Siam!!!!. if they're not afraid of the word'' Communist,'' they probably Suap Ao long time ago...
I'd rather see our cute Laotian doll with Jonny Olsen instead of seeing her with one of those gooks from the north.
