see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
I'm from thai-Esarn. You don't dream that we want to be part of laos. Everday in thai We have a good life enough. Don't think one-site...World is changed.You should remember.
Please stop all this non-sense talk. Lao people do not consider you Lao. That is why we call you Thai-Esarn. It is the Thai Bangkok that call you people Lao Esarn.
Thai Bangkok didn't want to except Thai-Esarn so they name them Lao-Esarn to diffrenciate this people from bangkok people simple as that!
Thai bangkok can call Isaan what they want. Do you know what a dog is?
Esarn people were though to be loyal to Thai like a dog to its master! This is the faith of Esarn people.
Laos has never wanted Esan back to be part of Laos with many reasons. 1. It has been too long that Esan broke away from Laos and most of the Esan young generations are all loyal to Thailand. 2. Lao economy is poor and people in Laos are living in poverty. 3. Esan people love democracy and freedom that is why they are political turmoil between the rich and poor and hight class people and the low class people . the power stuckling between the dictators and the workers and the famers. Esan people just want to democracy and justice not to be treated and look down as a second class citizen. Esan people want to be good neighbour with Laos, Cambodia and Malaysia and Burma be respected from the rich and upper class people in Bangkok. Esan still protect Their heritage and culture and most of them at home still speak Lao and eat sticky rice and Padek. and no different from Lao American or Lao Australian or Lao European or any Lao who are living in any part of the world are still protecting Lao culture. Where ever there are Lao people there are Lao Buddhish temple.. So Esan people are Lao people who are living in Thailand And are Thai citizen and no different from Lao American in the US.
=> I'm not agree with your conclusion exactly. We are thai people. So sorry if I think wrong...
You are right there are million people just like you and also there million people also are like me. As I told every body here That my father is from Udon and I was born in Nong Kai . So there are million of people just like me who are living in Esan. So this current Thai government make me and million people like me l to think twice now.Laos is Laos and Esan is Esan and also Lanna is Lanna .Will there be any justice for the Esan and Lanna people from the racist and rich people in Bangkok.
I'm from thai-Esarn. You don't dream that we want to be part of laos. Everday in thai We have a good life enough. Don't think one-site...World is changed.You should remember.
Please stop all this non-sense talk. Lao people do not consider you Lao. That is why we call you Thai-Esarn. It is the Thai Bangkok that call you people Lao Esarn.
Thai Bangkok didn't want to except Thai-Esarn so they name them Lao-Esarn to diffrenciate this people from bangkok people simple as that!
Thai bangkok can call Isaan what they want. Do you know what a dog is?
Esarn people were though to be loyal to Thai like a dog to its master! This is the faith of Esarn people.
You are right Esarn peoples they bark for thai,they die for thai,they slave for thai they do anything for thai for nothing long thai accept them to be thai peoples,because they don't have father ,they real father is (LAO P D R), Bangkok just step-father to Esarn peoples, no way they step-father will love them 100% like they real father is (Lao P D R).
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
you are correct. Isaan will kill Lao for Thai but Thai will kill Isaan for not listen.
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
you are correct. Isaan will kill Lao for Thai but Thai will kill Isaan for not listen.
That is very stupid of not happy to be who you are. Look at Laos people with 6.5 Mil. They are very proud of themself, what happen to Essan? They were slave by thai bangkok and got kill for not bending over without any reason. ouh!!!!!
First , Your country have to planning that how to develop the country and stop thinking about thai-esarn I think it will loss your time to much to do something better. In my country we think only how to succes in their job....I want to emphasize that we focus on economy... Stop !!!! loss your time
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
you are correct. Isaan will kill Lao for Thai but Thai will kill Isaan for not listen.
That is very stupid of not happy to be who you are. Look at Laos people with 6.5 Mil. They are very proud of themself, what happen to Essan? They were slave by thai bangkok and got kill for not bending over without any reason. ouh!!!!!
You cannot compare Laos and Esarn. Different situation. Esarn eat the ghost food(kin khao pee).
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
you are correct. Isaan will kill Lao for Thai but Thai will kill Isaan for not listen.
That is very stupid of not happy to be who you are. Look at Laos people with 6.5 Mil. They are very proud of themself, what happen to Essan? They were slave by thai bangkok and got kill for not bending over without any reason. ouh!!!!!
You cannot compare Laos and Esarn. Different situation. Esarn eat the ghost food(kin khao pee).
I'm from thai-Esarn. You don't dream that we want to be part of laos. Everday in thai We have a good life enough. Don't think one-site...World is changed.You should remember.
Please stop all this non-sense talk. Lao people do not consider you Lao. That is why we call you Thai-Esarn. It is the Thai Bangkok that call you people Lao Esarn.
Thai Bangkok didn't want to except Thai-Esarn so they name them Lao-Esarn to diffrenciate this people from bangkok people simple as that!
Thai bangkok can call Isaan what they want. Do you know what a dog is?
I know what Esarn think about Thai bangkok , Esarn want to kick bangkok ass so badly look back bangkok kick Esarn ass for 200 years but they scared to say anything right now because many snipper out there,when the time come Esarn ready to kick bangkok ass.
see ? even in the former time , the esan people never considered themselves as lao, to them their territory is " just traced horizontaly at the west from the andaman sea and the north easthern at the vietnamese border lao people were the rebels to the siamese throne and wanted to be separated from the siamese administration " it is what is written in thai history and taught the younger people to workship and defend the thai throne as full thai citizenship and have the right to fight back any of thai ennemies. So, be sure that they will not hesitate to kill you lao people who still believe that they (esan) still have lao blood. They are kind to you because you are their increasingly regular customers and different from other neighbours, you understand their language, their drama, their culture that will ease their propaganda system to reach the lao new generation which will hang on the thai products for ever. If lao gorvernment don't change and don't invest to improve the education system , don't invest in any kind of goods production for every day life, Laos will be their economic slaves for ever... I'm very sad that our youngsters don't understand and will never understand that. Oh ! My God !
you are correct. Isaan will kill Lao for Thai but Thai will kill Isaan for not listen.
That is very stupid of not happy to be who you are. Look at Laos people with 6.5 Mil. They are very proud of themself, what happen to Essan? They were slave by thai bangkok and got kill for not bending over without any reason. ouh!!!!!
You cannot compare Laos and Esarn. Different situation. Esarn eat the ghost food(kin khao pee).
What you mean?
Thai bangkok is the ghost. Esarn eat food from the ghost. It mean Esarn is depend on the Thai bangkok. Thai bangkok have the power.
I know PM Taksin will come back hunt you down one day. He got exiled from the country for no reason. I think Thai Royal family will cry at the end.
It is not because of Taksin. It is because phaya nag came out from the hole. That is why Thailand is in trouble now. Thai Sayarm close the phaya nag hole and now the hole is open again.
I know PM Taksin will come back hunt you down one day. He got exiled from the country for no reason. I think Thai Royal family will cry at the end.
It is not because of Taksin. It is because phaya nag came out from the hole. That is why Thailand is in trouble now. Thai Sayarm close the phaya nag hole and now the hole is open again.
Hee Hee Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. you make me laugh
ha ha ha you are talk so sweet like a boy , i don't have time to answer your complain i got to go to drink some beer lao this is weekend ,i don't want to talk bad word to E-sarn people , i want to talk bad word to thai bangkok only bye bye litle E-sarn boy,go back to bed good night sweet dream.
You No English. Fuk you writer! You Thai people suk laos cok all your live to lived longer. Hey your Thai queen will die if she didnt get to suk Lao cok...and lick lao people azzz. Oh well Thai is has only one eye he doenst care whether he eat laos shiet or lao sperm...good Thai cok sukker...hehehehe
Who Wanted Your Essan? Are out of your fykken mind Idiot? Lao people have enough of support, i just wonder why your Thai love to suk our cok and lived longer? Fuk You Thailand booshiet!!! hahahaha
ถูกต้องแล้วคร๊าบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบ คนอยู่เมืองลาว คือสิมาฮู้ดีแท้ว่า คนกรุงเทพกดขี่คนอีสาน งึดหลายเว้ย ข้อยไป เฮียนอยู่กรุงเทพ ข้อยกะบ่เห็นผู้ได๋ว่าหยังบ่เห็นมาด่าหรือมาดูถูก ว่าข้อยมาแต่ศรีสะเกษเด๊ล่ะ พวกหมู่ข้อยกะมาจากสารพัดหม่อง....ทั้งใต้ ตะวันตก กลาง เหนือ.อย่างหลายก็เรียกรวมๆกันว่า ต่างจังหวัด กะเป็นเรื่องปกติเพราะคนกรุงเทพอีหลีแล้วมีจั๊กคนเนาะ ร้อยละ 70 เปอร์เซ็นต์ กะมีแต่คนมาจากภาคอื่นๆ มาเฮ็ดงานมาเฮียน และหลายที่สุดก็เป็นคนอีสานอีกต่างหาก(คั่นพวกคนเมืองลาวเกลียดคนกรุงเทพ กะแมนว่าเจ้าเกลียดคนอีสานติล่ะเนาะ) .......อ้ายข้อยเป็นนักบิน L 39 ของThai Airforce เอื้อยคนรองกะเป็นอาจารย์แต่งงานไปอยู่กรุงเทพ ทั้งอ้ายทั้งเอื้อยข้อยกะยังมักกินข้าวเหนียวคือเก่าเด๊ะ เว้าภาษาอีสานตลอด ฮ่วยแล้วแมนหยังคือจังว่าคนอีสานถูกกดขี่ข่มเหง....เข้าใจว่าเป็นย้อนรัฐบาลคอมมิวนิสต์ลาวล้างสมอง หรือว่าหมู่เจ้ารับเอาแต่ข้อมูลด้านเดียวมาจากไสน๊อ.....ตื่นๆๆๆๆ You No English. Fuk you writer! You Thai people suk laos cok all your live to lived longer. Hey your Thai queen will die if she didnt get to suk Lao cok...and lick lao people azzz. Oh well Thai is has only one eye he doenst care whether he eat laos shiet or lao sperm...good Thai cok sukker...hehehehe
I know what Esarn think about Thai bangkok , Esarn want to kick bangkok ass so badly look back bangkok kick Esarn ass for 200 years but they scared to say anything right now because many snipper out there,when the time come Esarn ready to kick bangkok ass.
Bangkok rulez all ur sorry a$$ low life 2nd class citizen.
I know what Esarn think about Thai bangkok , Esarn want to kick bangkok ass so badly look back bangkok kick Esarn ass for 200 years but they scared to say anything right now because many snipper out there,when the time come Esarn ready to kick bangkok ass.
Bangkok rulez all ur sorry a$$ low life 2nd class citizen.
ถูกต้องแล้วคร๊าบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบบ คนอยู่เมืองลาว คือสิมาฮู้ดีแท้ว่า คนกรุงเทพกดขี่คนอีสาน งึดหลายเว้ย ข้อยไป เฮียนอยู่กรุงเทพ ข้อยกะบ่เห็นผู้ได๋ว่าหยังบ่เห็นมาด่าหรือมาดูถูก ว่าข้อยมาแต่ศรีสะเกษเด๊ล่ะ พวกหมู่ข้อยกะมาจากสารพัดหม่อง....ทั้งใต้ ตะวันตก กลาง เหนือ.อย่างหลายก็เรียกรวมๆกันว่า ต่างจังหวัด กะเป็นเรื่องปกติเพราะคนกรุงเทพอีหลีแล้วมีจั๊กคนเนาะ ร้อยละ 70 เปอร์เซ็นต์ กะมีแต่คนมาจากภาคอื่นๆ มาเฮ็ดงานมาเฮียน และหลายที่สุดก็เป็นคนอีสานอีกต่างหาก(คั่นพวกคนเมืองลาวเกลียดคนกรุงเทพ กะแมนว่าเจ้าเกลียดคนอีสานติล่ะเนาะ) .......อ้ายข้อยเป็นนักบิน L 39 ของThai Airforce เอื้อยคนรองกะเป็นอาจารย์แต่งงานไปอยู่กรุงเทพ ทั้งอ้ายทั้งเอื้อยข้อยกะยังมักกินข้าวเหนียวคือเก่าเด๊ะ เว้าภาษาอีสานตลอด ฮ่วยแล้วแมนหยังคือจังว่าคนอีสานถูกกดขี่ข่มเหง....เข้าใจว่าเป็นย้อนรัฐบาลคอมมิวนิสต์ลาวล้างสมอง หรือว่าหมู่เจ้ารับเอาแต่ข้อมูลด้านเดียวมาจากไสน๊อ.....ตื่นๆๆๆๆ You No English. Fuk you writer! You Thai people suk laos cok all your live to lived longer. Hey your Thai queen will die if she didnt get to suk Lao cok...and lick lao people azzz. Oh well Thai is has only one eye he doenst care whether he eat laos shiet or lao sperm...good Thai cok sukker...hehehehe
Being an Isan person is difficult. My family is from Yasothorn Province, some live in Bangkok for work. Lao people (from Laos) do not understand the intricacies that come with our very nuanced existence.
Historically, Isan people are Lao people that were captured during the fall of Lan Xang or forcibly extracted from the Lao successor kingdoms, which ultimately ended up vassals of the Siamese until the French wrestled control of the region in 1898. Prior to this, most of Laos was depopulated, with a good number marched by Siamese armies to Isan from one side of the river to the other, some even forced to settle other parts of the country. History aside, Isan people are Lao people and there are actually more Isan people of Lao descent on the Thai side of the border than all of Laos. In fact, 80% of Lao people are Isan people. Obviously, intermarriage with the local peoples such as the Khmer, Khmu, Phru, Khmer boran and others occurs, but it occurs in Laos, so the argument that we are genetically "impure" Lao is meaningless, since Lao people also intermarry with ethnic groups, who make up a larger percentage of the population than in Isan where 88% of people speak Isan as their predominate language and roughly the same per cent would consider themselves "Isan" in the sense of ethnic Lao of Thailand from the region.
History aside, we have different levels we have to master:
Tai ban hao - Khon Lao ma tae Isan
When villagers gather to discuss the rice yields, the price of water buffalo and the day's small events, they are speaking pure Lao with very very little Thai influence. This is especially true of the older generations as well as a lot of the younger generation from remote areas. It's the language of the home, and it's the same language as homes on the other side of the Mekong.
But wait, we live in Thailand!
Lao people might not like that we mix Thai and Lao together, but it only happens because, we live in Thailand. Isan has local radio stations and morlam, but to appeal to a broader Thai audience, we have to use Thai vocabulary so that the albums are intelligible enough to listeners who are not fluent, but probably acquainted with the basic words. For things we learn about in Thai-language books, Thai-language schools (as if Isan-language schools exist!), Thai-language television, Thai-language internet, etc., we use Thai words. Thai is a mandatory language in school, government, official media outlets, public service announcements, signs and, should we ever desire to be more than just rice farmers in Isan or to make extra money in the dry season, your boss will expect you to understand Thai and at least speak it well enough to be understood.
Thai people not from Isan
Speaking Lao provides no benefits other than its use to talk to family members, childhood songs and connect with the shared Lao culture. Outside of Isan, the Lao language usually earns scorn and embarrassment. Our Lao or Isan language is derided because it is not Thai, or it is treated as a bad form of Thai heavily influenced by Lao. Telling someone that "the water buffalo are dying in the cold" sounds to Thai people like "my f_cking penis dies in the cold (doesn't work when it's cold)" And having someone overhear your youngest brother bak ham noy only causes laughter, confusion or derision. Isan people would never speak Lao in earshot of a Thai person unless they are in Isan, otherwise they speak Thai. A women on a bus in Bangkok talking to her sister in Isan will speak Thai and her sister might speak Thai, a mix of Thai and Isan or just plain Isan (Lao), but if on speakerphone and the Lao comes out, it is mute time!
No standard Lao language in Isan
There is no "standard Isan" as there is in Laos, at least in writing. The dialectal differences in Laos that are beginning to fade because of the influence of Vientiane does not effect Lao dialects in Thailand, as Thai is the only medium for writing, although we have a rather ad hoc way of writing Lao with Lao-like spelling of most words and Thai-like spelling for words that are the same, even if pronounced very differently, albeit using the Thai alphabet because, we are not taught the Lao alphabet and few Isan people are crossing the river for work when Bangkok pulls everyone in. Thai vocabulary is sometimes also needed where different dialects have different words not used. For instance, in the north of Isan, people speak very akin to the way Lao is spoken near the capital of Luang Phrabang, and Nong Khai like Vientiane, and the south of Ubon and the south like the folks of Champassak, or adopted words from the local peoples. Words for local herbal plants, some animals, and peculiar foods might be localized to small village areas so Thai helps fill the gap, whereas Lao people would use a Standard Lao equivalent if it existed.
Lao people from Laos, please forgive your Lao brothers and sisters in Thailand. We are Lao ethnically, but we belong and are content with being a part of Thailand. We still share a beautiful culture, a beautiful language and numerous traditions that will always link us. Even the river, divides us into two nations, but links us as the focal point of the Lao-speaking world. That Luang or That Phanom, on both sides ... we share reverence. We are Buddhists, we love our spirits too, we eat sticky rice and padaek, and when mom at home cooks food, we call the names the same as you do. BUT we are Thai citizens and despite our love of Lao culture, we are Thai and participate in Thai society. We do not have our own written language, but we have not forgotten our roots, but we have to adapt and be Thai just as the Lao expect the Hmong and Lavo and Khmu to adopt Lao language and customs, the Thai Siamese ask the same of us.
Lao people, you were spared the influences from Siam and Thailand, but not completely. Thai slang is uttered by Lao youth, and Lao people also read Thai magazines, news, manuals, books and tune into our tv and listen to Thai music, and I don't mean just Isan music, but also artists who sing exclusively in Thai because they are Thai. Lao people, however, have a government and a state that promotes Lao language and culture, Isan people do not. Lao people have a written language that connects them to the Lao past, Isan people were forbidden to learn the Lao alphabet so we do not. We didn't forget because we wanted to, we were forced to a long time ago. Lao people also had a bloody civil war and we saw our brothers that flee Laos and settle with us ... even as Laos gets better, it's hard to shake off the memory as well as the fact that Laos is a poorer country, ruled by Communists which overthrew its monarchy and only exists separately because of French intervention. That's not an attack, it's just fact. Without the French, Laos would be just part of Isan.
The shared relationship we have is complicated, with political motivations to keep us apart through rhetoric, but at the end of the day, a few Thai words never hurt anyone, but asking an Isan person to stop eating sticky rice might. The problem Laos Lao people have is that as part of Thailand, Thailand claims the culture of the Isan people as, rightly so, a regional culture. We are all Tai peoples after all. So yes, "som tam" is a Thai dish. And they way they make it in Bangkok with sugar and peanuts and bland is ... well. Then there is tam bak hoong, that's the real stuff, with the crabs and bitter plums. It might be better described as sibling rivalry, frenemy or love-hate.
Just remember
ISAN = THAI CITIZEN (but Lao ETHNIC) So when we end all sentences in der khrup , just remember that without the French, you folks on the other side of the river would also be doing the same thing, driving on the left, and reading Thai. That's okay. As a result of that, you guys have done such a better job preserving Lao culture that is lost as we (over the period of FOUR CENTURIES) have had to adapt to Thai culture and national attitudes. Phi nong Lao Phi Nong Isan Hak Gan