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China Says No to Outside Involvement in S. China Sea Disputes

A destroyer of the South China Sea Fleet of the Chinese Navy fire a missile during a training in South China Sea, (File)
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A destroyer of the South China Sea Fleet of the Chinese Navy fire a missile during a training in South China Sea, (File)


Beijing said Tuesday it is "firmly opposed" to foreign involvement in the regional disputes. it also warned other Asian nations to refrain from "irresponsible" comments on their competing maritime claims.

The comments appeared in the Liberation Army Daily, the newspaper of the Chinese military. They followed the introduction of a congressional resolution by two U.S. senators that accuses Beijing of using force in the disputes and calls for the U.S. military to "assert and defend freedom of navigation rights" in the South China Sea.

China responded furiously last year after the United States joined several countries at a regional security summit in calling for a multilateral approach to resolving South China Sea disputes. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also declared a U.S. national interest in maintaining free navigation through the waterway.

China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia claim all or part of the Spratly Islands. China, Vietnam and Taiwan also claim the Paracels.

China says its claims date back for centuries.

China is also criticizing a U.S. senator’s call for multilateral negotiations to resolve territorial disputes in the South China Sea, and says it would rather pursue one-on-one dialogue with rival claimants.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei Tuesday was asked for a reaction to legislation introduced in the U.S. Senate that condemns China’s actions in the South China Sea and calls for a multilateral solution to the territorial dispute.

Hong accused what he referred to as “some countries” of hurting China’s sovereignty and maritime rights and interests.

Hong accused critics, including some in the United States, of trying to expand and complicate the territorial dispute.

Nature of dispute

The Spratlys are the main disputed island group in the South China Sea. They are near key shipping lanes and are believed to sit on top of large oil deposits.

 

China’s claims over islands in the South China Sea overlap with those of Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam. The spokesman said China is trying to safeguard its own rights and interests. He added that China will not resort to threats or the use of force.

Hong says China hopes countries not related to the issue will respect the efforts of countries directly related to the issue to resolve the disputes through direct negotiations.

Although he did not mention the United States by name, he was responding to a question about the legislation that calls for the U.S. military to defend freedom of navigation in the South China Sea.

What sparked tension

The Chinese comments come amid increasingly heated exchanges between China and rival claimants the Philippines and Vietnam, which held a live-fire naval exercise on Monday.

The Chinese spokesman had a relatively mild response to the Vietnamese naval exercises. He said only that Beijing hopes relevant parties will do more to contribute to peace and stability in the region.

The United States is not directly involved in the territorial dispute in the South China Sea, but American officials say Washington has an interest in protecting freedom of navigation rights in the region. In Washington, the bipartisan U.S. Senate bill urges a peaceful and multilateral resolution to the South China Sea issue.

China has instead maintained that it would like to resolve the territorial dispute with each claimant, separately.

 

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Vietnam orders submarines and warplanes from Russia

By Nga Pham
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Vietnam has ordered six of the Russian Kilo class submarines

Vietnam has signed billion-dollar contracts to buy submarines and fighter jets from Russia, Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung has announced in Moscow.

The deals make Vietnam one of the key clients of the Russian arms industry.

The weapons purchases come at a time when disputes over sovereignty are increasing in the South China Sea, which Vietnam calls the East Sea.

Vietnam, China and other countries have competing claims over potentially oil and gas-rich island chains there.

 

"Vietnam signed contracts for the purchases of submarines and planes from the Russian side," the Vietnamese prime minister said, without elaborating.

Russian agency Interfax quoted unnamed sources as saying that Hanoi was to buy six diesel-electric Kilo-class submarines worth $2bn (£1.2bn).

Vietnam is already awaiting the delivery of eight Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter jets from Russia in 2010. It is considering ordering 12 more, Interfax quoted another Russian source as saying.

A regional defence analyst said the rising tension in the South China Sea was "clearly a source of concern" to Hanoi.

The submarine acquisition "would increase [Vietnam's] negotiating power in the maritime disputes", Professor Carlyle Thayer of the Australian Defence Force Academy said.

 

 

Map showing China's claim to South China Sea


-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 16th of June 2011 12:53:14 PM

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Contracts - Intent » Vietnam’s Russian Restocking

 

Vietnam’s Russian Restocking

 
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In April 2009, reports surfaced that Vietnam had agreed in principle to a deal with Russia for 6 of its diesel-electric Kilo/ Project 636 Class fast attack submarines. There have been rumors that Vietnam owns 2 ex-Yugoslav mini-submarines for use in commando operations, but the Vietnamese People’s Navy doesn’t own any full size submarines that can take on enemy subs and ships. That’s about to change, thanks to a December 2009 contract.

Nor is that the only change in Vietnam’s military capabilities these days. China’s April 2009 display of naval might is only part of the mosaic influencing Vietnam’s decisions in these matters, as contracts for submarines – and far more – are being signed with its long-time Russian ally:

Vietnam’s New Military Buys: Considerations

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China’s 2009 display of naval might certainly marks an increased shift toward “forward defense” farther from its borders, a policy that must eventually include China’s trade lifeline to Vietnam’s south, through the Straits of Malacca. It also underlined a growing gap between China’s increasingly advanced ships and high capacity hovercraft, and Vietnam’s fleet of older Soviet and even American ships.

Ownership of the Spratly Islands remains very much in dispute, and Vietnam and China share a centuries-long history of mutual distrust and occupation. Recent punctuations of that animosity include the 1979 3rd Indochina War; this was followed by a significant skirmish in 1981, and a naval skirmish over the Spratly Islands in 1988. Today, Vietnamese protests over a Chinese bauxite mine in Vietnam, and media disobedience over the Spratly Islands issue, serve as a reminder that the 1989 treaty has not changed the relationship’s underlying fundamentals.

China itself has adopted a strategy of building up a submarine force to counter a superior surface opponent (the US Navy). It is entirely logical for Vietnam to adopt a similar approach vis-a-vis China, especially given that China’s lifeline of raw materials and exported goods leading from and to Africa, the Middle East, Europe, and parts of Asia passes right by Vietnam’s doorstep.

Aside from Thyssen Krupp Marine’s U209 family of submarines, the Russian Kilo Class are the world’s most widely exported subs. They’re known for a level of quietness that’s significantly better than other Russian designs, and have been produced in the Project 636 and Project 877EKM “Improved Kilo” variants. Countries operating or ordering these submarines include Russia, Algeria, China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Poland, and Romania.

There had been some speculation that Vietnam’s emphasis on shallow water operations, and proximity to the Straits of Malacca, might have made DCNS’ novel 885t, $200 million Andrasta Class of “pocket submarines” attractive. Instead, Vietnam appears to have opted for a more widely-deployable, higher capacity 2,300t submarine from its tried and true Russia partner.

The new submarines are the most important new Russian addition to Vietnam’s capabilities, but they are not alone. Stealthy Gepard-class light frigates will add surface warfare and patrol punch, for a fleet that’s mostly made up of aging Soviet Fast Attack Craft and captured American ships from the Vietnam War. In the air, Vietnam’s SU-27s will be joined by new multi-role SU-30 planes from the same fighter family.

Contracts and Key Events

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This section covers only Vietnamese contracts with Russia. As the “Additional Readings” section notes, Russia is not Vietnam’s exclusive arms provider – but it is the country’s most important relationship.

March 5/11: The Vietnamese Navy officially accepts the first Gepard class frigate from Russia, naming it the Dinh Tien Hoang, after the first Vietnamese emperor. Vietnam became the class’ 1st export order with a contract for 2 ships in December 2006, and the Dinh Tien Hoang was launched in August 2009. The 2nd frigate in the order was launched in March 2010, and has been in sea trials since August 2010.

The Gepard 3.9 ships are a combined diesel-turbine export version of Russia’s Project 11611 (Tartarstan) frigates, which serve in the Caspian fleet. The 102m/ 2,100t design sits in the grey area between small frigates and large corvettes, and despite their 5,000nm endurance, they’re best suited to local maritime patrol and interdiction. Their stealth-enhanced ship design and sub-sonic Kh-35E anti-ship missiles make them potentially dangerous adversaries in littoral regions, and other armament includes 76.2mm and 30mm guns, 533mm torpedoes, depth charges, and a 9K33M “OSA-M”/SS-N-4 missile system for air defense. This size and weapons array may not be much to get excited about, relative to other international frigate designs, but it will make them Vietnam’s most capable combat ships. March 2010 reports indicate that orders for 2 more could follow. DatViet report [Google translate] | AvWeek Ares.

 

March 27/10: RIA Novosti reports that Chinese admirals are beginning to grasp the implications of advanced diesel-electric attack submarines in the hands of several regional neighbors, located right near China’s shipping lifelines.

Vietnam’s Kilo Class, Malaysia’s Scorpene Class, and Singapore’s Vastergotland Class submarines are all on China’s Southeast Asian radar, while in the background, Indonesia continues to express its intent to buy Kilo Class submarines of its own.

March 25/10: It’s good to be a good customer. Russian defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov says that Russia will help Vietnam build the submarine base it needs to house its new Kilos, provide a loan to help buy rescue and auxiliary vessels and planes for Vietnam’s navy, and build a ship repair yard. That yard would benefit the Russians, too, as it could service visiting Russian navy ships.

Vietnam’s geographic position could make its service yard attractive to other navies as well, giving other countries even more reason to focus on relations with the Southeast Asian nation. A good service yard could wind up being as important to Vietnam’s geo-political position as the submarines themselves. Associated Press | China’s Xinhua.

March 23/10: Russia’s Voice covers growing ties between Russia and Vietnam, which is becoming one of Russia’s biggest arms customers:

“Vietnam backs multilateral cooperation with Russia especially in military defense, stated Vietnam’s president Nguyen Minh Triet during talks with Russia’s Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov in Hanoi. “Each of Russia’s victories is like our own, the president said, and we support Russia in the Georgian conflict.” The president said that the US decision not to deploy its ABMs in Eastern Europe is also a victory for Russia….. Anatoly Serdyukov noted that Vietnam is Russia’s strategic partner and Russia is ready to train Vietnamese personnel at the Russian Defense Ministry’s academies.”

March 16/10: Russia’s Zelenodolsk PKB shipyard launches Vietnam’s 2nd Project Gepard 3.9 light frigate into the River Volga. In May 2010, the warship will sail to St. Peterburg and then travel by sea to Vietnam for sea trials. The 1st ship in the order was launched in August 2009.

A separate report indicates that Vietnam could be preparing to order 2 more light frigates of this type. ITAR-TASS [in Russian] | ITAR-TASS Arms [in Russian].

Feb 10/10: Interfax reports the signing of a formal contract between Russia and Vietnam for 12 SU-30MKK fighters, for delivery in 2011-2012, plus associated weapons, service, and support. The deal is reportedly worth $1 billion, and is signed the day after a Russian contract to build Vietnam’s first nuclear plant. Agence France Presse | AP | RT | Straits Times.

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Dec 15/09: Shortly after Vietnam makes its defense white paper public, reports indicate that it has ordered 6 Kilo Class submarines and 12 SU-30MKK fighter jets from Russia, during a visit to Moscow by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung.

Russia’s Interfax news agency quoted an unnamed Defense Ministry official on Dec 15/09, who said the submarines were earlier model “Project 636” types, and gave the deal’s value at of $2 billion, with delivery taking place at a rate of 1 submarine per year. The Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter jet deal was valued at $600 million, and would raise Vietnam’s SU-27/SU-30 family fleet to 20 fighters.

Vietnam also invited Russia to help build its 1st nuclear power plant, and hopes to begin construction in 2014 and put it on line by 2020. The country has been growing its manufacturing capacity in recent years, partly at China’s expense, and needs to improve its electric grid in tandem. Vietnam’s Thanh Nien News | RIA Novosti | Agence France Presse | Associated Press | BBC News | China’s Xinhua | Agence France Presse analysis.

Dec 4/09: Russia’s RIA Novosti reports:

“According to the Vedomosti business daily, Moscow and Hanoi are close to sign deals on the purchase of six Kilo class diesel-electric submarines and 12 Su-30MK2 Flanker-C multirole fighters. The submarine contract, worth an estimated $1.8 billion, includes the construction of on-shore infrastructure and training of submarine crews and will be the second largest submarine contract concluded by Russia since the Soviet era after the 2002 deal on the delivery of eight subs to China.”

April 27/09: Initial media reports. The submarine deal’s value is reported to be around $1.8 billion, and the SSKs would be built at Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg. In addition to submarines, the Vietnamese Navy order is said to include new heavyweight torpedoes and missiles (most likely Klub family) to arm them.

Some of the Russian reports note that these 6 submarines were once planned for Venezuela, adding that Russia’s Rosoboronexport canceled the deal following Hugo Chavez’ meeting with US President Barrack Obama. That must be judged an extraordinarily thin public rationale for canceling a $1.5+ billion purchase. A sinking global oil market, and Venezuela’s growing economic dependence on its declining oil production for revenue, are far more likely reasons for any delay and/or shift. See: RIA Novosti | MosNews | St. Petersburg Times | Singapore Straits Times | Defpro.

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Vietnamese jet fighter and bomber ready for action.

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What do China have to do to win the war without firing a single shot ?

1. Hurt the Vietnamese economy. how ? Invest more monies in Laos and Cambodia by building more factories in Laos and Cambodia and financing all the south east Asia countries and stop import the Vietnamese goods to all the countries that China allies with specially Laos and Cambodia and send million of Chinese army and tanks in Laos and Cambodia to control the border Laos Vietnam and Cambodian and Vietnam and take control of the financing of all South East Asia . That will squirt Vietnam and suck Vietnamese economy dry.



-- Edited by Dark Angel on Thursday 16th of June 2011 01:35:39 PM

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Easy.  They are already doing that to India.  The Chinese are investing in Pakistan and Bangladesh.  By doing this, they are encircling India.  They could do the same with Vietnam.  Cut throw Laos and Cambodia. 



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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!



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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


  I thought Vietnamese is Lao brother and they have been helping Laos for 5 decades since fighting the French together .



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Vietnam must be ally with Taiwan , Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Thailand and specially with Laos and Cambodia to prevent China to invade from the rear . If Vietnam could not do that , then Vietnam must join NATO in order to survive.



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If Vietnam join NATO . Russia will not help Vietnam and supply Vietnam with any weapon.



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China will not dare to fight against NATO over Vietnam because China has a lot to loose . If China fight against NATO . Then the United States will economic sanction against China and stop buying any products from China so all European countries will follow the United States and not import any products from China .Then hundred of millions Chinese will have no job and the China economy will go backward like in the 1950 to 1970 when the Chinese people were hungry and starved and fled China by the millions.



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If the war break out between China and Vietnam . China and Vietnam will be fighting each other in Laos. Laos will be bombed by Chinese air force and also by the the Vietnamese air force. Who ever control Laos will have more chance to defense the ground.



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Hell no , Vietnam has no Chance to win . China will occupy Vietnam like they had done 1000 years ago. They will occupy Vietnam like they did to Tibet.



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Hell no , Vietnam has no Chance to win . China will occupy Vietnam like they had done 1000 years ago. They will occupy Vietnam like they did to Tibet.


like the chinese already have done to lao?



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It will not be easy just to walk over Vietnam like the Chinese walked over Tibet but Chinese will pay the big price and it will be bloody war that China will also be regret to invade vietnam.



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If China can reclaim South China Sea from there own history background 800 years ago. They can sure claim Vietnam their as well.

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Nia wrote:

If China can reclaim South China Sea from there own history background 800 years ago. They can sure claim Vietnam their as well.


  If there will be the case then America was truly belonged the Red Indian, and California was belonged to Mexico and Alaska was belonged to Russia . Lanna and Esan were belonged to Lan Xang which is Laos today. Surely Laos doesn't want Esan back because Esan have more people and more educated people and Laos don't want to be ruled by Kon Esan.



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Nia wrote:

If China can reclaim South China Sea from there own history background 800 years ago. They can sure claim Vietnam their as well.


 careful silly lao, lao will not be on the world map in a few years biggrin



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Anonymous wrote:
Nia wrote:

If China can reclaim South China Sea from there own history background 800 years ago. They can sure claim Vietnam their as well.


 careful silly lao, lao will not be on the world map in a few years biggrin


         Which dream would you like ? Chinese dream or American dream  ?



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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


 Laos political is indirectly controlled by Vietnam not China but China wants Laos to be  indirectly controlled Laos. To dominate Laos is very import for both China and Vietnam security for their border.  So nothing are free so money talked .



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Anonymous wrote:
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If China can reclaim South China Sea from there own history background 800 years ago. They can sure claim Vietnam their as well.


 careful silly lao, lao will not be on the world map in a few years biggrin


         Which dream would you like ? Chinese dream or American dream  ?


  American dream happens only when you sleep when you wake up , they are gone just a dream.



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So you go to sleep and then have a Chinese dream. It might come to live.



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Anonymous wrote:

loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


 Loaser! u just don't give up do you? it's getting old.no



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NangDarling wrote:
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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


 Loaser! u just don't give up do you? it's getting old.no


 Just ignore it. If you response then you will provoke a response back. 



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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/06/17/china.jeans.capital/index.html

 

That's the Chinese dream for ya.  As you can see from this video, the Chinese government is good at propaganda.



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Chinese's dream is to control all the south China sea and all the oil in the Spratly island.



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It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html



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eye_sky wrote:

It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html


  That is the nature of the universe the strong one always be the bully.



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Anonymous wrote:
eye_sky wrote:

It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html


  That is the nature of the universe the strong one always be the bully.


 muscle of harassment? WTF is this English?



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It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html


  That is the nature of the universe the strong one always be the bully.


 muscle of harassment? WTF is this English?


        If Laos and vietnam don't beware soon will be like Tibet and Sip Song Phan Na

    Vietnam should know better because vietnam was ruled by China for thousand of years until the french came in 18 th Century.

 

Any body still understand  Lao  Sip Song Phan Na  accent.



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
eye_sky wrote:

It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html


  That is the nature of the universe the strong one always be the bully.


 muscle of harassment? WTF is this English?


        If Laos and vietnam don't beware soon will be like Tibet and Sip Song Phan Na

    Vietnam should know better because vietnam was ruled by China for thousand of years until the french came in 18 th Century.

 

Any body still understand  Lao  Sip Song Phan Na  accent.



 stupid lao



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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It's sad how China is flexing its muscle of harassment against obviously less powerful claimants. The U.V. and even ASEAN should help mediate in these territorial disputes so issues are tackled amicably.

 

 

http://eye-in-the-blue-sky.blogspot.com/2011/06/uncertainty-in-kolkata-new-day-in-india.html


  That is the nature of the universe the strong one always be the bully.


 muscle of harassment? WTF is this English?


        If Laos and vietnam don't beware soon will be like Tibet and Sip Song Pan Na

    Vietnam should know better because vietnam was ruled by China for thousand of years until the french came in 18th Century.

 

Any body still understand  Lao  Sip Song Pan Na  accent.


        They still eat sticky rice and call themselves Tai . Notice their house still like Lao house .( Ancient Lao house style).



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Hell , Vietnam will never defeat China even Vietnam have the nuclear , chemical ,biological weapons . China will control the south China sea and Spratly island who dare to challenge China ?



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dog lao shouldnt speak for anyone


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dog lao shouldnt speak for anyone

  Watch your month who ever you are .



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dog lao shouldnt speak for anyone

         How do you know that was Lao  who spoke for any one , idiot ?



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dog lao shouldnt speak for anyone

  Watch your month who ever you are .


 Mouth not month.



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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


 That's fine with me, as long as Laos is not part of '' Ka-Ree-land... that's all it count 555.......................



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dog lao shouldnt speak for anyone

  Watch your month who ever you are .


 Please do not waste your time with Luk-Eka-Ree, it is not worth it with this Insect.



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lao could not be able to beat the hmong, left alone beating any asian countries hehe bleh



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If these two nations should go to war. It'll probaly last two weeks max, before Chinese forces march into Hanoi and piss on the Ho Chi Minh's tomb. The chances of Vietnam winning against China, is as good as there finally being a Meo nation.



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If these two nations should go to war. It'll probably last two weeks max, before Chinese forces march into Hanoi and piss on the Ho Chi Minh's tomb. The chances of Vietnam winning against China, is as good as there finally being a Meo nation.


       That will not be that easy to walk over over Vietnam , like to walk over Tibet . Vietnamese people will never allow the Chinese to take over Vietnam so easy like thousand years ago before the French took over Vietnam. This time if the Chinese invade Vietnam then China will regret and pay a bloody price and Vietnam will teach China a lesson that China will never forget  .



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lao would only last 1hours if they went to war with anyone. piss all over chao anou



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lao could not be able to beat the hmong, left alone beating any asian countries hehe bleh


 Which Hmong are  U talking about ? Mongolia or Hmong Vang Pao ? if you saaid Hmong Vang Pao, they're busy beat up their wife right now. forget about going to war they got smarter now and they don't even donated their money nowaday. and as for Vang Pao he died with his ideology already and nobody will take his spot...



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lao would only last 1hours if they went to war with anyone. piss all over chao anou


  Hey Lady boy , have some respect OK . This topic was the news and no one insult you and  and your country .It seems to me that you just don't have any thing to do but to jump in and insulting Laos almost every topic and every time that you have the  opportunity to insult Laos and Lao people  that is enough lady boy. I don't blame you that you could not be a man, Lady boy.



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If these two nations should go to war. It'll probably last two weeks max, before Chinese forces march into Hanoi and piss on the Ho Chi Minh's tomb. The chances of Vietnam winning against China, is as good as there finally being a Meo nation.


       That will not be that easy to walk over over Vietnam , like to walk over Tibet . Vietnamese people will never allow the Chinese to take over Vietnam so easy like thousand years ago before the French took over Vietnam. This time if the Chinese invade Vietnam then China will regret and pay a bloody price and Vietnam will teach China a lesson that China will never forget  .


 He is no body but a pussy  lady boy .



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lao could not be able to beat the hmong, left alone beating any asian countries hehe bleh


 Which Hmong are  U talking about ? Mongolia or Hmong Vang Pao ? if you saaid Hmong Vang Pao, they're busy beat up their wife right now. forget about going to war they got smarter now and they don't even donated their money nowaday. and as for Vang Pao he died with his ideology already and nobody will take his spot...


  He is no body but a pussy lady boy.



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Now The Phillippine is on the hot seat with China regarding Spratly island .

Watch out China !  Not too fast to take over south China sea specially Spratly island and stop being bully to  Vietnam.



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Typical Miao Chaofa loser's hate speech!
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loa is part of china, ofcourse they will help their lazy lao brother!


 



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Laos is a peaceful nation and we have no desire to wage war on anyone or any nation. As for the Hmong insurgency, they have been crushed by the brave men and women of the Lao People's Army in the 1990s.
The Lao people have had in the past driven out a European colonial power and a world superpower collectively from Lao soil. FYI, Laos foes in the past are far more technological advance than any other Asian countries in existence and yet they suffer a humiliated defeat from the of a puny Lao peasant army.  LOL
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lao could not be able to beat the hmong, left alone beating any asian countries hehe bleh


 



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