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Marco

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I am vietnamese that was born in Laos. My family are all in Laos. Even my grandparents were born in Laps and we all have never been to Vietnam. I go to Lao school. Learn everything like Lao people. I love Laos. And I can strongly feel that it's my home country. Because it is!!! I am not sure if anyone here has heard of "Viet Keaw(ຫວຽດກ່ຽວ)". That is what we are. Since I was born Lao, I am just everything like Lao people... Except that I have Vietnamese nationality. The question is can I have anyway to change it to Lao nationality? I am dying for it :( I am a talented kid. I was the winner in mathematic competetion in my province and then I got a scholarship. After that I moved to Vientiane to continue my study in upper secondary school level. Now I am a freshman in Nationality of Laos and I am just like other Lao kids that want to get a scholarship from other countries to Lao students such as Japan, Australia, Singapore, China. Etc But the problem is every scholarship requires Lao nationality. So even how much I want it I will not have a chance. :( But please... Is it really no way? As said, My grandparents my parents my family and myself were all born in Laos and we're everything like Lao. We don't have any people we know in Vietnam. We will forever live in Laos because god made us to be born here.. And I have studied so damn hard for the scholarship because I have always dreamed of studying abroad. I believe that(getting scholarship and) studying abroad will be the great opportunity for me to upgrade myself and make me become a qualified staff that graduates abroad in order to develop Laos after I return home. You would never known how hard I have studied and I finally could do it. But what makes me unable to get the scholarship is the nationality I'm having. I wonder why it's so hard to change our nationalities to Laos? Or at least make us available to get the scholarships as other Lao students because we were born in Laos, been living and studying in Laos, everything is just Lao and Laos are our home country. I want a Lao nationality so bad. I've been crying over this trouble a lot. My mom, my brothers, my relatives tried to help me but they couldn't. I am just feeling like why life is so unfair!!? They need good students to get the scholarships and go study abroad, don't they? In order to develop Laos country. Why I have no opportunity? :( Now I am 20 y.o. Studying in National University of Laos. Anyone has any advices for me? I need it in detail and I need it quickly as the scholarship is coming in no time. I will be truly appreciate every of your helps. Please help me!! Please :(

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Taroo

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That's a very sad story to hear.

I would recommend you to go and talk with the ministry that deal with changing the nationality.

I have heard news every year, that many foreigners got a permission to change their nationality to Lao.

The procedure is probably slow, but better than do nothing.



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More like Vietnamese using Lao nationality to access further education in other country? I heard that in Vietnam it is hard to get scholarship from other country because their is so much those other country can take in. I believe that the Vietnamese are using Laos to get access to other country higher education. But in the end, that Vietnamese person would go back to Vietnam and contribute their education for their own people and country and not Laos or the Lao people. Lao people gets nothing from these Vietnamese.



-- Edited by BinjBinjTown on Friday 17th of August 2012 03:58:37 PM

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Anonymous

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Oh my good boy,

i always dislike some vietnamese people in some aspect.

but in case of you. you are the honest person to Laos country. i really feel symphathy for you 

if the story you mentioned is true, then i feel so pity for you.

please consult the immigration department of ministry of interial security and MoF. you might get informative guidance. 

 good luck.



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Anonymous

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I'm not sure that your story is true, mostly  people who were born at any country in the world is automaticly became

that country's citizen and the nationality is not important more than the citizen to deal with any purpose of the govt.

and laws of that country. Your grandparents and your parents were born in Laos then now is your generation to be

kept continueing to next generation after your's. I don't see any problem if you keep the way you are and don't tell

or introding yourself to the others then you will be fine.



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Marco

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My ancestors came from Vietnam to Laos since war (to help Laos against French soldiers like I studied in Lao history in school), I guess. And we never went to Vietnam and I don't think we will ever will since we lost relatives that our ancestors knew in Vietnam long time ago. The scholarships that come to Laos such as Vietnam, Japan, Singapore, China, etc.. Say that the applicants must has lao nationality. I think the reason they say that is because they're afraid of people from other countries will use Laos to access the scholarships... This may be true but who will do that? It's not easy to come to Laos, attend a school, learn Lao language to prepare for the exams, and even if you pass the exam you still need to pass the interview...in those stages you'll need to be perfect in Lao and you'll need the information like where you were born to fill in the documents.. So it'll be really hard to do so and I think no one would. I can't choose where to be born but when I was born in Laos and my ancestors are vietnamese, I can't change this fact! I should probably be proud of what I am.. But I have a gift! I am good at math, good at physics, good at language, and I have a dream of studying abroad just like other students else. Why don't let the exam to scholarship judge me whether I deserve it but why let the nationality ruin my future? I just feel like it is so unfair! Everytime I have to hear that this and that scholarship is coming and I'll automatically be like "I don't have the opportunity like other people.. Don't even think about it.." and when my friends go like "hey u great at it why dont participate the exam to get the scholarhip?" and then i'm just like "I can't!! I don't know why :(" (I can't really tell them the reason) For Lao people who has been living abroad for so long, I want to know if it was easy for you to change the nationality there? Is it legal? Everyone has the right to change? What are the requirement? And what about in Laos? Thankyou for all of your advices. I feel so thankful and truly appreciated. I am from another province originally (Champasak) and there would be no adult taking me to the blah blah blah ministry. Is it going to be okay if I myself walk into that place alone? I'm afraid it'd need ເສັ້ນສາຍ (sen saii) or a lot of money. P.s. sorry for my bad english :)

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Anonymous

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Marco wrote:

I am vietnamese that was born in Laos. My family are all in Laos. Even my grandparents were born in Laps and we all have never been to Vietnam. I go to Lao school. Learn everything like Lao people. I love Laos. And I can strongly feel that it's my home country. Because it is!!! I am not sure if anyone here has heard of "Viet Keaw(ຫວຽດກ່ຽວ)". That is what we are. Since I was born Lao, I am just everything like Lao people... Except that I have Vietnamese nationality. The question is can I have anyway to change it to Lao nationality? I am dying for it :( I am a talented kid. I was the winner in mathematic competetion in my province and then I got a scholarship. After that I moved to Vientiane to continue my study in upper secondary school level. Now I am a freshman in Nationality of Laos and I am just like other Lao kids that want to get a scholarship from other countries to Lao students such as Japan, Australia, Singapore, China. Etc But the problem is every scholarship requires Lao nationality. So even how much I want it I will not have a chance. :( But please... Is it really no way? As said, My grandparents my parents my family and myself were all born in Laos and we're everything like Lao. We don't have any people we know in Vietnam. We will forever live in Laos because god made us to be born here.. And I have studied so damn hard for the scholarship because I have always dreamed of studying abroad. I believe that(getting scholarship and) studying abroad will be the great opportunity for me to upgrade myself and make me become a qualified staff that graduates abroad in order to develop Laos after I return home. You would never known how hard I have studied and I finally could do it. But what makes me unable to get the scholarship is the nationality I'm having. I wonder why it's so hard to change our nationalities to Laos? Or at least make us available to get the scholarships as other Lao students because we were born in Laos, been living and studying in Laos, everything is just Lao and Laos are our home country. I want a Lao nationality so bad. I've been crying over this trouble a lot. My mom, my brothers, my relatives tried to help me but they couldn't. I am just feeling like why life is so unfair!!? They need good students to get the scholarships and go study abroad, don't they? In order to develop Laos country. Why I have no opportunity? :( Now I am 20 y.o. Studying in National University of Laos. Anyone has any advices for me? I need it in detail and I need it quickly as the scholarship is coming in no time. I will be truly appreciate every of your helps. Please help me!! Please :(


Hey Marco, your name is not Vietnamese or Lao name.

Your name is Italian.

Are you joking that you can not get Lao nationality?

Many Vietnamese, chinese they just arrived to Laos a few days ago

they can get Lao nationality if they want.

Maybe you just want to stir up this forum.

Ok!



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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:
Marco wrote:

I am vietnamese that was born in Laos. My family are all in Laos. Even my grandparents were born in Laps and we all have never been to Vietnam. I go to Lao school. Learn everything like Lao people. I love Laos. And I can strongly feel that it's my home country. Because it is!!! I am not sure if anyone here has heard of "Viet Keaw(ຫວຽດກ່ຽວ)". That is what we are. Since I was born Lao, I am just everything like Lao people... Except that I have Vietnamese nationality. The question is can I have anyway to change it to Lao nationality? I am dying for it :( I am a talented kid. I was the winner in mathematic competetion in my province and then I got a scholarship. After that I moved to Vientiane to continue my study in upper secondary school level. Now I am a freshman in Nationality of Laos and I am just like other Lao kids that want to get a scholarship from other countries to Lao students such as Japan, Australia, Singapore, China. Etc But the problem is every scholarship requires Lao nationality. So even how much I want it I will not have a chance. :( But please... Is it really no way? As said, My grandparents my parents my family and myself were all born in Laos and we're everything like Lao. We don't have any people we know in Vietnam. We will forever live in Laos because god made us to be born here.. And I have studied so damn hard for the scholarship because I have always dreamed of studying abroad. I believe that(getting scholarship and) studying abroad will be the great opportunity for me to upgrade myself and make me become a qualified staff that graduates abroad in order to develop Laos after I return home. You would never known how hard I have studied and I finally could do it. But what makes me unable to get the scholarship is the nationality I'm having. I wonder why it's so hard to change our nationalities to Laos? Or at least make us available to get the scholarships as other Lao students because we were born in Laos, been living and studying in Laos, everything is just Lao and Laos are our home country. I want a Lao nationality so bad. I've been crying over this trouble a lot. My mom, my brothers, my relatives tried to help me but they couldn't. I am just feeling like why life is so unfair!!? They need good students to get the scholarships and go study abroad, don't they? In order to develop Laos country. Why I have no opportunity? :( Now I am 20 y.o. Studying in National University of Laos. Anyone has any advices for me? I need it in detail and I need it quickly as the scholarship is coming in no time. I will be truly appreciate every of your helps. Please help me!! Please :(


Hey Marco, your name is not Vietnamese or Lao name.

Your name is Italian.

Are you joking that you can not get Lao nationality?

Many Vietnamese, chinese they just arrived to Laos a few days ago

they can get Lao nationality if they want.

Maybe you just want to stir up this forum.

Ok!


 Yes, it so true. Maybe you do not know that Lao PDR's constitution do not allow Vietnamese and Chinese borned  in Laos to became Lao citizens. unless you can get around the law. I mean under the table. I have many friends that gratulated from (Hong Hien Chine and Hong Hien Viet) and attended SiKhot High School with me they all carried (Bus Tang Dao=Alien Cards. So what he said it truth...



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Marco

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Marco wrote:

I am vietnamese that was born in Laos. My family are all in Laos. Even my grandparents were born in Laps and we all have never been to Vietnam. I go to Lao school. Learn everything like Lao people. I love Laos. And I can strongly feel that it's my home country. Because it is!!! I am not sure if anyone here has heard of "Viet Keaw(ຫວຽດກ່ຽວ)". That is what we are. Since I was born Lao, I am just everything like Lao people... Except that I have Vietnamese nationality. The question is can I have anyway to change it to Lao nationality? I am dying for it :( I am a talented kid. I was the winner in mathematic competetion in my province and then I got a scholarship. After that I moved to Vientiane to continue my study in upper secondary school level. Now I am a freshman in Nationality of Laos and I am just like other Lao kids that want to get a scholarship from other countries to Lao students such as Japan, Australia, Singapore, China. Etc But the problem is every scholarship requires Lao nationality. So even how much I want it I will not have a chance. :( But please... Is it really no way? As said, My grandparents my parents my family and myself were all born in Laos and we're everything like Lao. We don't have any people we know in Vietnam. We will forever live in Laos because god made us to be born here.. And I have studied so damn hard for the scholarship because I have always dreamed of studying abroad. I believe that(getting scholarship and) studying abroad will be the great opportunity for me to upgrade myself and make me become a qualified staff that graduates abroad in order to develop Laos after I return home. You would never known how hard I have studied and I finally could do it. But what makes me unable to get the scholarship is the nationality I'm having. I wonder why it's so hard to change our nationalities to Laos? Or at least make us available to get the scholarships as other Lao students because we were born in Laos, been living and studying in Laos, everything is just Lao and Laos are our home country. I want a Lao nationality so bad. I've been crying over this trouble a lot. My mom, my brothers, my relatives tried to help me but they couldn't. I am just feeling like why life is so unfair!!? They need good students to get the scholarships and go study abroad, don't they? In order to develop Laos country. Why I have no opportunity? :( Now I am 20 y.o. Studying in National University of Laos. Anyone has any advices for me? I need it in detail and I need it quickly as the scholarship is coming in no time. I will be truly appreciate every of your helps. Please help me!! Please :(


Hey Marco, your name is not Vietnamese or Lao name.

Your name is Italian.

Are you joking that you can not get Lao nationality?

Many Vietnamese, chinese they just arrived to Laos a few days ago

they can get Lao nationality if they want.

Maybe you just want to stir up this forum.

Ok!


 Yes, it so true. Maybe you do not know that Lao PDR's constitution do not allow Vietnamese and Chinese borned  in Laos to became Lao citizens. unless you can get around the law. I mean under the table. I have many friends that gratulated from (Hong Hien Chine and Hong Hien Viet) and attended SiKhot High School with me they all carried (Bus Tang Dao=Alien Cards. So what he said it truth...


Marco is just a name I made up on this website. I don't want to put my real name here and I think it's fine. Nothing is a big deal with it I guess. You said many vietnamese and chinese came to Laos a few days ago and they could get Lao nationalities easily. Please tell me how could they get it? I want to know the way like what I am supposted to do first? Thankyou :)

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Anonymous

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What I don't understand is the following: your grand-parents and parents were born in Laos, as were you. Do your grand-parents and parents choose to keep their original Vietnamese nationality? So, you have been Vietnamese born and raised in Laos during all these years? You are all recognized by Vietnam as their citizen then. Maybe your grand-parents and parents had always plan to return to Vietnam one day. As I understand, Laos des not grant dual citizenship. Look, you have to compete with the Vietnamese for all scholarships, that's so tough. 

For me, all people of Viet descent born and raised in Laos that I know are proud Lao people. They have nothing to do with Vietnam. It's unfortunate for your case because you have not chosen your nationality by yourself, it's you parents and grand-parents who did it for you.



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....................... For Lao people who has been living abroad for so long, I want to know if it was easy for you to change the nationality there?................

 

It's for everybody, when you live legally  in a foreign countries for sometime ( depends - country) you have the right to become a citizen of that

country if you wish and apply for (different country - different conditions), but no one (NO ONE) can change the nationality.

The nationality is what you were born, your dad's and your mom's, but if you were born from a mix, say lao + vietnamese, you can choose (usually parents choose) what nationality will you carry on. I live in different countries and I have 3 citizenships (3 pass-ports). I have the right as all of these countries citizens have.

Good luck and don't let it goes without the right answer.

P.S. in your case, the best answer you can get is from the Lao Immigration Department. e-mail your questions to them.  It'll be a long process for sure. I know some one know the short. BTW I got my Lao passport for less than 24 hrs. (from 3 pm Friday - 11 amSat.). 



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Vu

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Marco:


Is it in Lao's contutuition that will not allow citizenship for any nation other than Lao ethic?



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Vu wrote:

Marco:


Is it in Lao's contutuition that will not allow citizenship for any nation other than Lao ethic?


 Yes you absolutely right, When PDR in power in 75 they rewritten constitutional and ban all foreign born not to have lao citizens. I don't know now, they might have change that but the last time I was reading the constitution still the same.



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Anonymous

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Marry a lao girl (even a fake marriage) and pay them to get Laos citizenship.

I know you can pay to get Laos citizenship, it just takes some money and knowing the right corrupt lao official. I heard it many times. Laos is a country where money can buy anything.

Hey, why do you want to go learn overseas for? Isn't the education in Laos good?



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