If you guys didn't know Khamtai and Chounmaly have not gotten along since the 90s.  They are basically the co kings of Laos under the Vietnamese.  These two men grew up together in the caves of Sumnua.  But today their families do not get a long at all.

A lot of the Lao officials are competing to be ratramontrees.  In order to be a ratramontree the Lao officials have to give give Chounmaly minimum 1 mil and that's just to be considered. 

Why would they give him that much to be ratramontrees?  It's because a ratramontree in Laos gets to do a lot of business with Viets, Chinese, Aussies, etc.  They make back their money 100 fold. 

Khamtai's son(who he wants to be the next Naiyok) became very wealthy just by getting commission from the Aussies.  He and his Aussie partners made to much in Southern Laos that they basically handed their business over to Chinese. 

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A lot of the Lao officials are competing to be ratramontrees.  In order to be a ratramontree the Lao officials have to give give Chounmaly minimum 1 mil and that's just to be considered. 

 

Why would they give him that much to be ratramontrees?  It's because a ratramontree in Laos gets to do a lot of business with Viets, Chinese, Aussies, etc.  They make back their money 100 fold. 

 

Khamtai's son(who he wants to be the next Naiyok) became very wealthy just by getting commission from the Aussies.  He and his Aussie partners made to much in Southern Laos that they basically handed their business over to Chinese. 

 

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They're so busy trying to be ratramontrees that some of them don't know the Lao people have had it with their asses. 

We see it in Laos everyday.

They're so busy jockeying for positions in Laos that they don't realize that Laos has changed.

They still think it's the 90's when they could do as they pleased with Laos.

That bastard Khamtai made it known many times during his speeches in the 90's that he gave a rats ass about the common Lao people.  He said some of the most ridiculous stuff like "Laos belongs to the world not just Lao people" when talking about Vietnamese in Laos.  I mean, really??  All he ever cared about was making his family and relatives rich.  He and Chounmaly have been in competition for wealth since they started beefing in the 90's.  They used to be best friends but now their two families can't stand each other.

Both have been hugging on to the Vietnamese nuts because the Vietnamese are their muscle.  They know that if the Viets weren't backing them, the "Lao People" would have gotten rid of their asses a long time ago.  So they hug extra tight onto the Vietnamese balls to this day.

Chounmaly/Thongsing/Somsavat etc VS Khamtai/Bouasone/Sonexay

Hmmm...

Can't forget the current beef between Naipon Gaenkham/his men VS Xaysomphone Phomvihane after his younger brother Sanyahuk passed.  Xaysomphone is really pissed at Gaenkham for that.  "Malaria" says the Vientiane Times. haha

There are still a good amount of Lao people that like the Park Lat and it's usually the richer people who have family in the Park Lat or have benefited from it. 

Normal everyday Lao feel the opposite way and they're the majority in Laos.

The Viet had their picks of who they wanted to replace Chounmaly, Thongsing, Bounyang and the Hmong guy i forgot the name of.  Chounmaly got pissed and did something the Viets did not like.  Khamtai is not being listened to by the Viets.

Chounmaly/Thongsing is losing sleep nowadays.  They know their future is more uncertain than ever.

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The Viet had their picks of who they wanted to replace Chounmaly, Thongsing, Bounyang and the Hmong guy i forgot the name of.  Chounmaly got pissed and did something the Viets did not like.  Khamtai is not being listened to by the Viets.

 

Chounmaly/Thongsing is losing sleep nowadays.  They know their future is more uncertain than ever.

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Chounmaly, Somsavat, and Pany where supposed to go to Xieng Khuang that day.  But they knew the Viets wanted their asses so they made up excuses not to go.  Pany went but she went 1 day ahead.  Chounmaly said he had a fever and Somsavat went to play golf in Luang Prabang.

Douangchay had been the Viets good little helper for all these decades and they still screwed him in the end.

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You're missing the point.

They should be speaking Lao(since they claim they're Lao) to the Vietnamese and using a translator.  Unless they were speaking English which is considered the global medium.  That's how the majority of places do it.  Say if Yingluck were to go to Vietnam, she would speak Thai.

But the current Lao officials speak Viet to appease the Viets.  Right now the Viets are cleaning house in Laos.  They don't trust the Lao officials anymore.  The Xieng Khuang incident was just the beginning for the Viets.  Doungchay's family/men are pissed.

Are you stupid? It's called  a press photo moron.   I think it is normal for leaders of adjoining countries to learn the language of neighbors. Only American mindset thinks it is being a "traitor" to speak to a foreign president in their language. It's called being xenophobic 

^^ President Obama doesn't need  translator with Israeli president, he is a slave to Israel... 

http://m.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/imagecache/embedded_img_full/image/image_file/p093013ps-0153.jpg?itok=M1lod-r8

Anyway back to reality , China is the one who calls the shots now not Viets . you Lao nork are so racially obsessed with Viet yet you call Lao here enamored with them lol. 

Can't you show some respect for Mr. Phichit and not drag his name in the mud as part of your silly conspiracies? You claim to know how his family feels yet you really don't.. Just making up stories for your grandchildren in USA as usual. 

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Anyone who's in Vientiane or has relatives in Vientiane should know what happened to Chounmaly Sayasone last week and this week.

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Yeah his wife didn't want to leave her house after that.  She's usually out and about all day everyday bossing people around.  She owns a lot of businesses.

In the past 2 months 8 senior Lao Party officials have passed.

Khamtai speaks Vietnamese because he is ethnic Vietnamese who was born in Vietnam and raised in Southern Laos.  Anyone who grew up around that area will know that.

You obviously know nothing.

His family is from Hanoi area.

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Thongsing Thammavong seems to be on the Viet's good side as of late.  They paid his handsomely on his last trip to Vietnam for helping them take care of Douangchay and crew.
 

 

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Funny how they paid that boy no respect on his last visit to Vietnam.  They just paid him and told him to get out of their face.

Neither the Viets or Jek are being to kind to the Lao PDR right now. 

Plus the Lao PDR officials themselves don't get along nor do they trust each other.

Plus the "Patikarn" as they're called are all over Laos now.  They've been bumping heads with the Viets all over Laos.

Just like the Lao elders used to say

"Sai Nai Tong See Gup Gerd Bpen Non"

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Thongsing Thammavong seems to be on the Viet's good side as of late.  They paid his handsomely on his last trip to Vietnam for helping them take care of Douangchay and crew.
 

 

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Funny how they paid that boy no respect on his last visit to Vietnam.  They just paid him and told him to get out of their face.

 

Neither the Viets or Jek are being to kind to the Lao PDR right now. 

 

Plus the Lao PDR officials themselves don't get along nor do they trust each other.

 

Plus the "Patikarn" as they're called are all over Laos now.  They've been bumping heads with the Viets all over Laos.

 

Just like the Lao elders used to say

 

"Sai Nai Tong See Gup Gerd Bpen Non"

 

 

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Gaew see keun Vietnam, Ma Parn See Sao How

Truly mazing how the Lao ancestors knew the future.

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IMO Laos will change immensely within the next 2-3 years because of the changes in the Pak Lat. 

 

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+By changes i mean in how Laos is run.  Not changing from hugging Vietnam's nuts to hugging other nuts.

"Some people" will continue to make excuses because the current condition of Laos benefits them and their families.

But Laos is changing whether they like it or not.  The quarreling among the Pak Lat is plain for everyone to see.

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This is Sonexay Siphandone.  He's not Khamtai's real son but was raised by him and took the Siphandone name.  He's the Chao Kwang of Champasak and is a very wealthy man.  His daddy Khamtai wants either him or Bouasone to be the next Naiyok as Khamtai doesn't like Chounmaly/Thongsing.

Bousone was also raised by Khamtai but did not take his last name.

 

 

 

 

 

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 Hey! At least he isn't Vietnamese like Mr. Siphandone - extremist lao norks 

I wonder if you guys ever stop and listen to how stupid you sound. 

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I find it funny that people who claim to love the party have no idea what is going on within the party. 

No mention on the Lao news of what happened to Chounmaly twice within a week's span.  But people all over Laos with a brain know who did what and where.

 

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 See while you are here complaining and crying about Vietnamese running Laos. Look how Lao Americans lag behind Viet Americans in terms of education. You should be focused on improving your own peoples position ( Lao in America) instead of whining and gossiping about the LPRP. I dont like the Vietnamese trying to control SE Asia but im not crazy enough to blather on about them like you all do.

http://jsaaea.coehd.utsa.edu/index.php/JSAAEA/article/view/19/43

Percentage of Educational Attainment of Persons 25 Years and Over
Vietnamese
Cambodian
Lao
Hmong
U.S.
Less than H.S. Diploma
27.7 Vietnamese
40.9
35.6 Lao Americans
50.0
15.8
H.S. Graduate or Equiv.
23.0 Vietnamese
24.7
30.5Lao Americans
20.5
29.6
H.S. Graduate or Higher
72.3 Vietnamese
59.1
64.4 Lao
50.0
84.2
Some College or Associates Degree
23.8 Vietnamese
20.2
21.5 Lao
19.8
27.5
Bachelor’s Degree
18.2 Viet
11.1
9.2 Lao Americans
7.5
17.2
Graduate or Professional Degree
7.3 Viet
3.0
3.2 Lao Americans
2.2
10.0
H.S. Graduate or Higher, Males
77.3
65.2
69.4 Lao Americans
59.7
83.8
H.S. Graduate or Higher, Females
67.5
53.6
59.2 Lao Americans
40.6
84.6
Bachelor’s Degree or Higher, Males
28.4
17.5
13.3 Lao Americans
12.7
28.5
Bachelor’s Degree or Higher, Females
22.8
11.1
11.5  Lao Americans
6.8
26.0

This guys dislikes Lao Noks so much but is obsessed with them.  Viets are more numbers and live in large communities where they support each other.  They left their Vietnam willingly because life in Vietnam sucked for them.  Ask the average Vietnamese Kieu if he wants to return home and he would say NO.  Most Lao always wanted to return home after Laos changes.

I only see one person whining like a little girl and doesn't want to accept current events in Laos.

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This guys dislikes Lao Noks so much but is obsessed with them.  Viets are more numbers and live in large communities where they support each other.  They left their Vietnam willingly because life in Vietnam sucked for them.  Ask the average Vietnamese Kieu if he wants to return home and he would say NO.  Most Lao always wanted to return home after Laos changes.

 

I only see one person whining like a little girl and doesn't want to accept current events in Laos.

 

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 So you left Laos why then? Because you benefitted from corruption of the ruling party and when the revolution happened then all your fun ended. Right?  Everyone leaves that out when they talk about "refugees" You guys arent refugees you all had ties to the corrupt leaders and the Lao royals. Thats like if you call people who benefitted from Nazi Rule "refugees" when the Nazi party fell and they had to run.

Thats why you all still hold a grudge to this day.  Your mind is stuck on Laos was a successful rich and great kingdom and the king was always right never wrong. We need our three elephant flag back and then Laos will be rich like this too.  Yet you leave out the details that Laos wasn't rich or well off at all. A small elite ran Laos during those times. Lao culture was being erased by the American prescense with Vientiane being a small version of Bangkok. The Americans were bombing the hell out of Laos and nobody knew about it. The Lao Royals lied to the people saying the Vietnamese the Vietnamese are doing this.  The Viets are attacking and bombing Laos don't let Vietnam take control of Laos. (while they were signing deals with America and Hmong to give Hmong most of Northern Laos)

The Lao elite do not seem popular among foreign observers in Vientiane, who comment repeatedly on their venality and corruption. Typical is a report by two French journalists who were at the site of a short but brutal battle near Paksane, southeast of the Plain of Jars. They describe the arrival by helicopter of "the strongman of Vientiane, General Kouprasith,…the most powerful of the Lao generals," well after the battle was over:  Maybe things don't change much according to you

A well-informed observer describes the Royal Lao Government in the following way:

Its corruption, lethargy and indifference is as great if not greater than it ever was. Few people living under its rule actively support it. American officials have been unable to push for basic reforms due to the political necessity of getting on with the Lao civilian and military elite so that continued American bombing will be permitted.^[7]

With some bitterness he gestured to the street outside the room where we were talking, observing that every one of the stores that lined the street was owned by a non-Lao. The Lao elite is busy building bowling alleys, running the prostitution and opium rackets,^[8] renting villas to Americans, living at the exorbitant level permitted by the flow of American commodities and the pervasive corruption. He felt that the American aid program was essentially destructive in having perpetuated a consumer-oriented society which benefited, while corrupting, the elite, and in not having even begun to lay the basis for development or modernization that would involve the Lao masses or create a productive society.

American Dream ? This is where you should be improving lives of Lao in your own community. You say its easy for me to talk about how I love Lprp but you should be reaching out to these communities and helping.  If you are so well off and happy reach out to your poor  in your own country.

One third of all Laotians in the United States live in poverty and receive public assistance income, two to four times higher than rates for the general U.S. population compared to any other Asian immigrant group. Southeast Asian refugees including Laotians have far larger proportions of people from agrarian backgrounds with lower educational levels. In West County, of the adult Laotian population ages 25 years and over, 40 percent live below the poverty level, and 46 percent have less than a fifth grade education. Nationally, only one third of the refugees from Laos were high school graduates and about the same number had less than a fifth-grade education. Consequently, in the United States, Laotians frequently work in hazardous, low-income jobs, and 44 percent of the working population is employed in the low-skilled jobs sector as operators, fabricators, and laborers.

Just as i thought the dummy looks down on other Lao.  Yet he's trying to put words in others mouths saying they call other's ban nok.  Ban Nok is a term used in Laos and Thailand.  He's making fun of Lao farmers who became refugees and do HONEST blue collar jobs.  Something neither he nor his family know anything about. 

Most of the educated Lao class who survived went to Europe and that's why you have so many Lao Professors in Europe.  Doesn't mean there aren't many in the US, Canada, etc.  All the big Lao cultural/social/history forums are held outside of Laos and attended by Lao PDR officials.  Why can't you have them in Laos?? OH! because the Lao PDR doesn't like people talking openly about Laos' issues.

Something both men have in common is the majority of their grandchildren live in the US.

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We're talking about current events here.  Which you know nothing about by trying to downplay all the changes in Laos just in the past 1-2 years and the decaying of the Pak Lat.

People already know that there were issues in Laos 1954-75. 

There were crooks during the RLG days but NOTHING like how it is today.  The NaChampasaks outside of Chao Boun Oum didn't even own cars and they were all high ranking RLG.

 

 

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Naipon Phasouk(RIP) who was one of the top Naipons in Laos did not even own a private motor vehicle.